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Poll: 36% Believe Terrorists Winning Terror War

By Jeralyn, Section War on Terror
Posted on Mon Feb 27, 2006 at 12:51:00 PM EST
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A new Rasmussen Reports poll finds that 36% of the respondents believe the terrorists are winning the terror war, while 39% believe we are winning.

Last month, 44% thought we were winning and only 26% believed the terrorists were winning.

A plurality of women and a majority of Democrats now believe the terrorists are winning. In December, 50% of all Americans thought the U.S. and its allies were winning. Just 25% took the opposite view.

The reason for the decline? Rasmussen says it likely is the Dubai deal:

Before that deal was announced, 43% of Americans believed the U.S. was safer than it was before the 9/11 attacks. Thirty-nine percent (39%) say it was not. Those numbers have reversed--just 38% now believe the U.S. is safter and 45% say it is not.

[hat tip Patriot Daily.]

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    Poll: 36% Believe Terrorists Winning Terror War | 33 comments (33 topical)
    Re: Poll: 36% Believe Terrorists Winning Terror Wa (none / 0) (#1)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Mon Feb 27, 2006 at 01:14:49 PM EST
    The reason for the decline? It couldn't be the constant bombardment of the liberal left wing news media showing nothing but negatives!....could it? When was the last time any positive news about the Iraq campaign came out? Does anyone remember? Ok, now all you libs chime in & say "there is none"... but we ALL know that is pure liberal BS!... don't we?

    Re: Poll: 36% Believe Terrorists Winning Terror Wa (none / 0) (#2)
    by squeaky on Mon Feb 27, 2006 at 01:36:11 PM EST
    When was the last time any positive news about the Iraq campaign came out? Does anyone remember? How about the Pentagons report issued last week. The money quote was that
    In the new report to Congress, the Pentagon also said the insurgency was losing strength, becoming less effective in its attacks and failing to undermine the development of an Iraqi democracy.
    Which obviously is a lie. Got any more? Write to your spinmeisters perhaps they can make up some fake pictures that show how happy all the Iraqi's are about the new democracy American occupiers have imposed. AP We are sick of all the WH lies, but BB craves more.

    Re: Poll: 36% Believe Terrorists Winning Terror Wa (none / 0) (#3)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Mon Feb 27, 2006 at 01:42:43 PM EST
    It couldn't be the constant bombardment of the liberal left wing news media showing nothing but negatives!....could it? When was the last time any positive news about the Iraq campaign came out? Does anyone remember? Ok, now all you libs chime in & say "there is none"... but we ALL know that is pure liberal BS!... don't we?
    You must be living on the same planet as George Bush. How's the weather there?

    Re: Poll: 36% Believe Terrorists Winning Terror Wa (none / 0) (#4)
    by Che's Lounge on Mon Feb 27, 2006 at 01:51:24 PM EST
    Well BB that's cause all the reconstruction money is going to the construction of more morgues.

    Re: Poll: 36% Believe Terrorists Winning Terror Wa (none / 0) (#5)
    by kdog on Mon Feb 27, 2006 at 01:55:42 PM EST
    Terror war winners= Bush, Halliburton, Carlysle, Osama and assorted Muslim tyrants, weapons industry, oil industry. Terror war losers= Everybody else.

    Re: Poll: 36% Believe Terrorists Winning Terror Wa (none / 0) (#6)
    by squeaky on Mon Feb 27, 2006 at 02:00:33 PM EST
    If the 'liberal press' were in fact liberal, Americans would have long ago demanded withdrawal from Iraq. From Robert Fisk:
    Everyone in the Middle East rewrites history, but never before have we had a US administration so wilfully, dishonestly and ruthlessly reinterpreting tragedy as success, defeat as victory, death as life - helped, I have to add, by the compliant American press.
    He goes on to describe Rummy's lastes North African adventure getting the best of Tunesian and Algerian torture techniques. link

    Re: Poll: 36% Believe Terrorists Winning Terror Wa (none / 0) (#7)
    by Al on Mon Feb 27, 2006 at 02:10:38 PM EST
    Well, let's see. On the one hand Rasmussen polls people before and after the Dubai ports deal and the results show a marked rise in those who feel the terrorists are winning. On the other hand, BB says it's the liberal left news media spreading misinformation. Who to believe, who to believe...

    Re: Poll: 36% Believe Terrorists Winning Terror Wa (none / 0) (#8)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Mon Feb 27, 2006 at 02:36:40 PM EST
    squeaky... Which obviously is a lie. Why.. because Dan Rather says so? perhaps they can make up some fake pictures that show how happy all the Iraqi's are There are plenty if pics already... as I said.... you just won't see them on ABC. Doesn't mean they don't exist. Broaden your horizons and look around. dilireus.. Nice name.. it fits you. Al... Who to believe, who to believe... Go right on believing all the BS the news feeds you... cause we all know they are on the up & up...... just ask Dan Rather. Better yet, ask someone who has been there. No schools are being built...no water is flowing...no electric is available...everybody hates us and wishes Saddam was back... yes? LMAO

    Re: Poll: 36% Believe Terrorists Winning Terror Wa (none / 0) (#9)
    by Slado on Mon Feb 27, 2006 at 02:57:40 PM EST
    While I appreciate BB's sentiments I think the real question is why is the port deal a sign that we're losing the war on terror? wouldn't the reported new out of Iraq have more to do with this...not withstanding that it's one sided? This poll only shows how much of an overeaction this whole story has resulted ina nd how poorly reported it's been overall. Fortunately the attention span of this country will run out shortly and we'll focus on something else...rember that Dick cheney shot somebody?

    Re: Poll: 36% Believe Terrorists Winning Terror Wa (none / 0) (#10)
    by Johnny on Mon Feb 27, 2006 at 03:55:28 PM EST
    Could it be... That a significant majority of people abviosuly don't think we are losing? Is the fact that 64% of the respondants chose something other than "We are losing"? This same crowd blames the media for losing Vietnam. Come on. The so-called liberal media is a myth. It is a sensationalist media. Pictures of puppydogs and schoolyards don't sell copy. Pictures of the president and a stained dress, or pictures of a president who doesn't even know how to eat a pretzel sell copy. In a few weeks we will have been in Iraq three years. Three years of the worlds most advanced military fighting the good fight. If you wrong-wingers can honestly sit back and think that all the failures are the result of liberal activities, go eat your hat.

    Re: Poll: 36% Believe Terrorists Winning Terror Wa (none / 0) (#11)
    by Johnny on Mon Feb 27, 2006 at 03:56:22 PM EST
    abviosuly
    Be quiet, I made that word up. If the preznit can make words up, so can I. I only follow the laws of grammar when they suit me.

    Re: Poll: 36% Believe Terrorists Winning Terror Wa (none / 0) (#12)
    by squeaky on Mon Feb 27, 2006 at 04:45:24 PM EST
    BB-Actually the people are getting very fed up with your dear leader. His lies have nothing to do with Dan Rather and now:
    The latest CBS News poll finds President Bush's approval rating has fallen to an all-time low of 34 percent, while pessimism about the Iraq war has risen to a new high.
    Dear leader is getting a bit singed I would say. Although he looks great compared to Cheney who is at 18%. kos
    Re: Poll: 36% Believe Terrorists Winning Terror Wa (none / 0) (#13)
    by jondee on Mon Feb 27, 2006 at 05:04:25 PM EST
    "Liberal b.s". What an incisive explantion. Did you get that from that racist bag of smoldering monkey dung Limbaugh, or did you formulate that hypothesis on your own?

    Re: Poll: 36% Believe Terrorists Winning Terror Wa (none / 0) (#14)
    by jondee on Mon Feb 27, 2006 at 05:06:16 PM EST
    How much longer before "Peace with Honor" gets ressurected?

    Re: Poll: 36% Believe Terrorists Winning Terror Wa (none / 0) (#15)
    by jondee on Mon Feb 27, 2006 at 05:25:01 PM EST
    Ya gotta love that sneaky reality framing in the question, ie: anyone activly opposing the occupation is a terrorist or a terrorist enabler.

    Re: Poll: 36% Believe Terrorists Winning Terror Wa (none / 0) (#16)
    by Sailor on Mon Feb 27, 2006 at 06:53:16 PM EST
    If the 'liberal press' were in fact liberal, Americans would have long ago demanded withdrawal from Iraq.
    Squeaky, I hate to demure, but we wouldn't have gotten INTO this war if the press had done their job. Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11. Iraq had nothing to do with OBL. Iraq had no WMDs. The majority of Amnericans were against the invasion. This would have been common knowledge at the time if the press had done their job, as in, ya know ... just report the freakin' FACTS!

    Re: Poll: 36% Believe Terrorists Winning Terror Wa (none / 0) (#17)
    by aw on Mon Feb 27, 2006 at 07:58:21 PM EST
    When was the last time any positive news about the Iraq campaign came out?
    When the media was drooling over the prospect of a war with Iraq, were they liberal? When the Bush in his flyboy costume landed on the carrier and the media swooned, were they liberal? When purple thumbs were on the news all the time, were they liberal? If not, when did they turn liberal?

    Re: Poll: 36% Believe Terrorists Winning Terror Wa (none / 0) (#18)
    by squeaky on Mon Feb 27, 2006 at 08:10:22 PM EST
    Sailor-
    Squeaky, I hate to demure, but we wouldn't have gotten INTO this war if the press had done their job
    Well, I took that for granted. I agree that worst thing a MSM news source is afraid of, is breing acciised of showing any touch of a liberal bias. They are all not doing their job. They are all on the take.

    Re: Poll: 36% Believe Terrorists Winning Terror Wa (none / 0) (#19)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Tue Feb 28, 2006 at 04:03:41 AM EST
    My friend's daughter is being deployed to Iraq. This is just terrible and senseless, but it is being replayed all over our country. I am sick about this, because I have no power alone to do anything about it. Together we can make a difference. Now that Bush's approval rating on the handling of Iraq is only at 30%, we need to push Murtha's plan:
    To immediately redeploy U.S. troops consistent with the safety of U.S. forces. To create a quick reaction force in the region. To create an over- the- horizon presence of Marines. To diplomatically pursue security and stability in Iraq
    The people need to "speak up" against continuing this war. It is over. Iraq is close to or in a civil war. A civil war is not our fight. Please, please write to everyone you can think of and push them to end this madness. We need to bring our troops home before we lose anymore of our true treasure - our men and women.

    Re: Poll: 36% Believe Terrorists Winning Terror Wa (none / 0) (#20)
    by Edger on Tue Feb 28, 2006 at 04:42:10 AM EST
    Pentagon admits that more than 5,500 servicemen have deserted Google search: iraq war deserters

    Re: Poll: 36% Believe Terrorists Winning Terror Wa (none / 0) (#21)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Tue Feb 28, 2006 at 05:11:54 AM EST
    Gee, how many times are they supposed to show the same pictures of the same school being rebuilt? Of course, faux always leaves out the part about us being the ones who leveled it in the first place. Still, CBS has shrub at 34 percent. They've got Cheney at 18 percent. Both all-time lows. The lids about to blow in Iraq and the bush leaguers wanna blame the media as bush leaguers always do. In baseball terms, it's the bottom of the ninth, you're trailin', 9-1, there's two out with nobody on, you're down 0-2, you're 0-for your last 17, ya haven't had a hit in a week, an rbi in a month or a dinger in three, but you want us to write about the foul home run ya hit in the 7th. And you wonder why shrub's at 34 percent.

    Re: Poll: 36% Believe Terrorists Winning Terror Wa (none / 0) (#22)
    by jimakaPPJ on Tue Feb 28, 2006 at 06:42:47 AM EST
    Squeaky - From your link:
    What do these men, who have violated orders and oaths, have to say for themselves? They told Correspondent Scott Pelley that conscience, not cowardice, made them American deserters.
    Of course when they had a chance to prove their bravery they deserted. Someone went in their place. Some of those "someones" died. I hope the deserters live long enough to fully understand the moral position of their actions. I hope when they return, and many will, they return to a jail cell. Johnny - Excellent point. After all the negative comments by a biased media who will always slant and spin the news it is remarkable that only 36% think we are losing. Thank God for the level headed American public.

    Re: Poll: 36% Believe Terrorists Winning Terror Wa (none / 0) (#23)
    by Slado on Tue Feb 28, 2006 at 06:48:52 AM EST
    i thought this post was about the terror war and that didn't have anything to do with Iraq? How come you liberals that say they don't go together always bring Iraq into the argument when you say they don't go together? As for Iraq this is yet another flurish of pessimism. It will pass and Iraq will become a democracy and we will leave.

    Re: Poll: 36% Believe Terrorists Winning Terror Wa (none / 0) (#24)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Tue Feb 28, 2006 at 06:57:04 AM EST
    BB, Please. You are, good sir, are talking utter tosh.
    Doesn't mean they don't exist. Broaden your horizons and look around.
    Where? Give me some links. This is the internet - find me examples of some Iraqis writing about how much better things are getting in their country. Blogs by servicemen don't count, blogs like Powerline don't count. I want some actual, identifiable people who are there on the ground to tell me how wonderful it is to live in freedom in the new Iraq. Can't find any? Hmmm. There could be two reasons for that: 1. Things really are appallingly bad, and aren't getting any better. 2. People in Iraq are too busy trying not to get killed and trying to get their lives together in spite of power outages, checkpoints, rationing and violence to sit and write "happy, happy joy joy" blogs to help out the Bush administration. Neither one of these is exactly positive. Do you really think that if there were any evidence of things going well the Bush Admin would be doing anything except painting it in letters 10 foot high all over the media? Hell, the Bushies have even been PAYING to get positive items inserted into the press in Iraq, and yet still most people realise that Iraq is a great big bloody mess, and it's entirely the Bush admin's fault. Jeez, even Fox News isn't claiming things are going well any more, and surely BB, even you couldn't call them "liberal". I think we all know this "liberal media" meme is a complete fabrication. But why don't you prove me wrong, BB. Find me some links. Show me the TRUTH that the liberal commie media is hiding from me. Go on, I know you want to. But you can't.

    Re: Poll: 36% Believe Terrorists Winning Terror Wa (none / 0) (#25)
    by Edger on Tue Feb 28, 2006 at 07:00:30 AM EST
    As for Iraq this is yet another flurish of pessimism. It will pass and Iraq will become a democracy You may be right after all, Slado: Aliens explain Parallel Universes

    Re: Poll: 36% Believe Terrorists Winning Terror Wa (none / 0) (#26)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Tue Feb 28, 2006 at 02:16:26 PM EST
    Johhny... The so-called liberal media is a myth. How can you say that the media is not anti-Bush? Do you watch any of the major networks? What do you call it when, in time of war, someone takes military intelligence and turns it over to the enemy, who in turn uses it to kill Americans? At the very least it's liberal..(most normal people would call it treason) Knowing full well that we were walking a tight rope, trying to fight a war, quell disturbances and build a republic for Iraq in the midst of all the terrorist resistance, CBS published those Abu pictures knowing they would destroy completely our image and standing in the Muslim world. If you wrong-wingers can honestly sit back and think that all the failures are the result of liberal activities.. That's the point....The failures (as you put it) are trumpted up by the media and really aren't failures in most cases. Squeaky... His lies have nothing to do with Dan Rather and now: NO?? So why do you quote CBS in the next statement? The latest CBS News poll finds President Bush's approval rating has fallen to an all-time low. Why would you (or anybody else) take anything CBS has to say as fact? You have no problem pointing out your "perceived" Bush lies...but give CBS a pass?? Proving my point I think! Jondee... "Liberal b.s". What an incisive explantion. Can't see the forest for the trees huh? Sailor... Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11. Iraq had nothing to do with OBL. Iraq had no WMDs. The majority of Amnericans were against the invasion. None of this "opinion" you give is based on actual fact...in fact, all 4 of your points are wrong. Aw.. If not, when did they turn liberal? If I have to point that out for you...we'll be here a long time. I"m guessing you don't see Hollywood as liberal either? Charlie... Gee, how many times are they supposed to show the same pictures of the same school being rebuilt? As many times as they show the same roadside bomb going off! Ian... Where? Give me some links. I have so many that I don't know where to start. Have you been paying attention at all? (to anything other than CBS, NBC, ABC, I mean?) This is already too long so give me a particular & I'll give you a link/article. Will you read them?

    Re: Poll: 36% Believe Terrorists Winning Terror Wa (none / 0) (#27)
    by squeaky on Tue Feb 28, 2006 at 02:32:39 PM EST
    BB-Gosh, feel the squirm. The froth of a man who knows he has lost. America is sick and tired of your wingnut rhetoric. The polls and upcoming elections do and will continue to reflect that.

    Re: Poll: 36% Believe Terrorists Winning Terror Wa (none / 0) (#28)
    by Sailor on Tue Feb 28, 2006 at 03:20:11 PM EST
    None of this "opinion" you give is based on actual fact...in fact, all 4 of your points are wrong.
    No reason to ever respopnd to a poster this delusional. even freakin' bush admits those points.

    Re: Poll: 36% Believe Terrorists Winning Terror Wa (none / 0) (#29)
    by squeaky on Tue Feb 28, 2006 at 04:10:42 PM EST
    Here are some horrific statistics:
    The minister of education stated recently that during 2005, 296 members of education staff were killed and 133 wounded.
    via robot wisdom Turns out that these deaths are mysteries. No one has claimed responsibility and the occupation forces or the interim governments have not investigated a single one. The thing that all the dead share is that they were vocally against the occupation. The occupation forces may have learned their lesson about 'professors' from the Iran revolution. If you have frogetten about that Laura Rozen links to a great article From the New Yorker archives, a fascinating December 1978 dispatch from Iran on the eve of the revolution. Well worth a read as it applies to now. The RNC anti-intellectual seeds were planted in the 1971 by "Richmond corporate lawyer (and future U.S. Supreme Court justice) Lewis Powell" in a document known as the Powell Memo A theme that gathered steam with none other than
    ... Jack Abramoff .... whose rise to power began 25 years ago with his election as Chairman of the College Republicans. Despite its innocuous name, the organization became a political attack machine for the Far Right and a launching pad for younger conservatives on the make. "Our job," Abramoff, then 22 years old, wrote after his first visit to the Reagan White House, "is to remove liberals from power permanently [from] student newspaper and radio stations, student governments, and academia."
    empahsis mine Much easier done than said in Iraq of the last three years.

    Re: Poll: 36% Believe Terrorists Winning Terror Wa (none / 0) (#30)
    by Johnny on Tue Feb 28, 2006 at 04:28:03 PM EST
    Quick quetion BB.. Does anti-bush=liberal traitor?
    How can you say that the media is not anti-Bush? Do you watch any of the major networks? What do you call it when, in time of war, someone takes military intelligence and turns it over to the enemy, who in turn usesThis is already too long so give me a< it to kill Americans? At the very least it's liberal..(most normal people would call it treason)
    LMMFAO... Get a grip BB. Your concept of "liberal" is as skewed and degraded as your worhip of the preznit. That is to say, sick and wrong. If the media has such excluive access to the type intelligence you claim they do, then someone in your vaunted administration is leaking... and that is treasonous behavior as well. So put a sock in it, the media is no more responsible than you for the third year of war. Sailor, you make a good point, even Bush concedes those 4 points... BB, take a deep breath and realize that the liberal media was frothing at the mouth over this war. Couldn't wait to get reporters in the field. As I said earlier, it is a sensationalist media. They report what sells.
    This is already too long so give me a particular & I'll give you a link/article. Will you read them?
    Yes, provided they are not from FOX, MSNBC, CNN, CSPAN, or any blog, website, newsgroup with "American Freedom", "Family Values" or "Ann Coulter" in the title. Too many liberals out there, dontcha know ;)

    Re: Poll: 36% Believe Terrorists Winning Terror Wa (none / 0) (#31)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Wed Mar 01, 2006 at 05:03:06 AM EST
    BB, You are so full of it, mate. You were the one who said that:
    When was the last time any positive news about the Iraq campaign came out?
    So then I ask you for some examples of all this "positive news" that you say the liberal media is so effectively suppressing, and what's your lame response?
    I have so many that I don't know where to start. Have you been paying attention at all? (to anything other than CBS, NBC, ABC, I mean?) This is already too long so give me a particular & I'll give you a link/article. Will you them?
    How utterly shameless you are. I'd be embarrassed to use such a lame, middle-school evasion as a response, but let's play your game, shall we? Here are some "particulars". Give me links to verifiable online recent articles about: The improving security situation of Iraq. The improving infrastructure of Iraq The reduction in terrorist attacks either in Iraq or worldwide. And then we'll talk some more. But I fully expect you to ignore this and pretend you didn't read it because you're nothing more than an ill-informed fraud with nothing but bullsh!t and bluff.

    Re: Poll: 36% Believe Terrorists Winning Terror Wa (none / 0) (#32)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Wed Mar 01, 2006 at 08:43:10 AM EST
    Johnny... Does anti-bush=liberal traitor? NO. I'm not a real big Bush fan either...but, like it or not he is the Prez and I am behind him just like I was for Clinton. (wasn't a big fan of his either). The differnce is... I don't let my dislike get in the way of what I know needs to be done. And bashing him in front of other countries isn't the way. Yes, provided they are not from FOX, MSNBC, CNN, CSPAN Why not? All we get on here is the liberal crap from the NY times. All the (leftie) posters do here is quote the left wing rags! Ian.... and what's your lame response? Sorry dude... but I work for a living and only have so much time to argue with people like you who won't listen to reason. My MAIN info comes from 3 people that I know actually over there! (Well, one just got back) And they paint a radically different picture than CBS does. I'll have to get back to you on links/articles... have business to attend to.

    Re: Poll: 36% Believe Terrorists Winning Terror Wa (none / 0) (#33)
    by Johnny on Wed Mar 01, 2006 at 10:25:47 AM EST
    Why not?
    Don't want any of that media bias that you despise coming through...

    Poll: 36% Believe Terrorists Winning Terror War | 33 comments (33 topical)