Friday Open Thread

It's a jail day for me, which means an open thread day for you.

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    Steve Bannon (none / 0) (#1)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Aug 18, 2017 at 11:57:57 AM EST
    appears to have been fired or quit. Either way good news. Now only how many more Nazis to get rid of?

    Yes, reporting (none / 0) (#2)
    by KeysDan on Fri Aug 18, 2017 at 12:27:04 PM EST
    is that Steve Bannon will be out by the end of the day; apparently returning to his home base of Breitbart. No word yet on Stephen Miller or Seb Gorka.

    To find out about the details, I guess we will have to wait for the insider scoop, or, maybe, two scoops:  after Trump worked so hard this week to gain the good will of Nazis, did he give Bannon the boot as one of those periodic pivots so as to save his presidency, or was Trump just angry about the weird interview Bannon gave to "The American Prospect," where he maligned the white supremacists, some of whom are very fine people, "a collection of clowns."

    My theory would be (5.00 / 1) (#3)
    by Peter G on Fri Aug 18, 2017 at 12:46:30 PM EST
    the latter. Bannon contradicted Tr*mp and dissed a significant part of his dwindling base. Much greater sin than the reasons any of us would want him fired.

    I'm not sure Bannon's ouster will help matters (none / 0) (#4)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Fri Aug 18, 2017 at 01:59:17 PM EST
    At this point, the full extent of the public relations damage that Trump has inflicted upon himself in the immediate wake of Charlottesville has yet to be realized.

    His hardcore base appears to be standing by their man -- at least for now, anyway. But most everyone else has been genuinely repulsed by Trump's public equivocation over the Nazified radical white right, and his adamant refusal to denounce them outright.

    I mean, c'mon! How can anyone who's otherwise a fundamentally decent human being NOT denounce Nazis and the Ku Klux Klan? Presented with this golden opportunity to do so, any other president could've belted this ball out of the park with his eyes closed.

    Without question, this was the mother of all unforced political errors. And of course, Trump being Trump, there's always serious potential for him to again double down and thus further compound his debacle.

    About one-third of Republicans presently look like deer in the headlights, and a good number of them have already bolted for the hills as fast as they can. Meanwhile, whatever support Trump had formerly enjoyed from independents who've heretofore given him the benefit of the doubt is now likely cratering.

    As for us Democrats, aside from issuing some standard boiler-plate statements of outrage, we're generally heeding Napoleon's admonition about never interfering with your opponent when he's committing a major mistake, and we're making another batch of popcorn.



    I think you are right. (none / 0) (#5)
    by Chuck0 on Fri Aug 18, 2017 at 02:01:24 PM EST
    I doubt Bannon's departure will matter in any way so far Cheeto's behavior, twits, or policy. Just another day of chaos.

    Happy Friday... (none / 0) (#6)
    by kdog on Fri Aug 18, 2017 at 02:04:52 PM EST
    Another day of chaos is another day of no radical conservative legislation being signed into law...I'll drink to that!

    F&ckin' Trump...he reviles and embarrasses, yet he saves!  Go figure.


    Thanks to their own braggadocio, ... (none / 0) (#7)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Fri Aug 18, 2017 at 02:49:40 PM EST
    Baltimore Sun | August 18, 2017
    Op-Ed: Torch-lit Charlottesville images, Vice News report ignited a moral fire - "It's been almost a week since the torch-lit white supremacists rally at the University of Virginia in Charlottesville, but the images of those Tiki flames illuminating hate-filled, white faces are still very much with me. They are permanently burned into my memory -- and, I suspect, much of the nation's shared consciousness. And that's a good thing. I believe these images triggered a moral awakening in some white viewers, which led to moral outrage when President Donald Trump refused to categorically denounce the people carrying those torches and the violence they generated that turned deadly."

    ... arrest warrants have apparently been issued for several of those unapologetic white nationalists who were featured so prominently in Elle Reeve's riveting -- and frightening -- Vice News documentary "Charlottesville: Race and Terror," which was produced by Vice News and aired Monday night on HBO. Good.

    And congratulations to Ms. Reeve and her Vice News crew, whose Pulitzer Prize-worthy journalistic coup is garnering the sort of mainstream public attention and praise that they truly deserve. Maybe they didn't fully realize it at the time they were filming, but given what happened, it's pretty evident that they undertook significant personal risk to tell this story. If you haven't yet seen "Charlottesville: Race and Terror," it's now posted on YouTube.