Pro Gun Control Rallies Across America Today

Today is Gun control Rally day across America. More than 800 rallies are planned. The sponsor is March for Your Lives, formed in the wake of the shootings in Parkland, FL. Photos are here. The NY Times reports (no link due to autoplay video)

On Saturday, the White House said in a statement, “We applaud the many courageous young Americans exercising their First Amendment rights today.”

Huge rallies are good catalysts for change. Those who participate feel the strength that comes with numbers. They believe change is possible and they are right. But they must convince Congress to act, and to do that, they have to stay dedicated and register to vote, and then follow-through by actually voting, particularly in the mid-term elections this year. [More...]

These marchers have the ability to undo the Republican majority in the House and Senate in November. Republicans are far more supportive of gun rights than Democrats.

The marchers' goal of reforming gun laws may not be on my wish list, but reducing Republican control in Congress is very much on my list, and anything that may contribute to doing so is a positive, in my view.

Denver's march is starting now. It will end a few blocks outside my window. There are police sirens blaring at the moment.

(The lack of links in this post is due to every news site I clicked on having auto play video.)

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    The head count for DC (5.00 / 3) (#13)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Mar 24, 2018 at 06:12:18 PM EST
    Is coming in at 1 million. It was well organized and even though the streets were bursting everyone was gracious and courteous. I don't know how we all funneled in and funneled out, we just did.

    We sat with a marching couple at Legal Seafood Gallery Place who turned out to be ??? Lawyers. They both had served 8 yrs in the Clinton administration and the wife served 4 yrs in the Obama administration. Lovely people, beautiful day. The magnolia trees at the National Archives decided to bloom wildly.

    It's just me, but I need more DC marches. A few artists were selling original artwork t-shirts. I didn't see one that caught my eye this time, but the selection under Trump can only improve. If I must survive this buffoon I want souvenirs.

    I really envy your being there (none / 0) (#16)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Mar 24, 2018 at 06:16:44 PM EST
    Yeah, (5.00 / 2) (#18)
    by Ga6thDem on Sat Mar 24, 2018 at 06:19:55 PM EST
    I do too though we did a pretty good job here in GA for a red state.

    The closest march here was (5.00 / 2) (#20)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Mar 24, 2018 at 06:23:08 PM EST
    Pretty far away.  Not a good excuse I know but not easy to get a baby sitter.

    I wish you all could have been here (none / 0) (#23)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Mar 24, 2018 at 06:31:27 PM EST
    What a great time we would have had! I know the soul of DC struggles under Trump. Today the black cloud lifted. Everyone was so happy, even the people working to feed marchers were glowing.

    And I know it won't be long before John Bolton doubles everyone's black cloud no matter where you hang your hat. By God we had today though, people are readying for the midterms.

    Maggie Habermann tweeted that she "got word" someone else in the Trump administration is getting the boot this coming week. I guessed Kelly, my husband said it might be Mattis...that Bolton might want Mattis gone right out of the gate. God forbid, I hadn't even thought of that.


    Rumors about (none / 0) (#27)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Mar 24, 2018 at 06:43:52 PM EST
    Shulkin and Carson

    I wouldn't miss either one (none / 0) (#30)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Mar 24, 2018 at 06:54:53 PM EST
    Who is the bigger headline? I think Trump is looking desperately for a headline.

    I have begun watching Morning Joe because they actually know Trump. Where has Joe been off to? But Mika claims the things that red line Trump are being sexually embarrassed or talk that he isn't really as wealthy as he claims.

    I think he's about to be sexually embarassed.


    We are careening off topic (5.00 / 1) (#32)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Mar 24, 2018 at 07:00:56 PM EST
    But it said what galls him most is that she is going to say he was a crappy lay.  Boring conventional quickie.

    Awsum.  You know he will HATE that.


    Biggest headline? (5.00 / 1) (#34)
    by Ga6thDem on Sat Mar 24, 2018 at 07:20:18 PM EST
    Probably Carson since he's the evangelical's guy. You forget Mattis is even there. However with the pundits firing Mattis would probably be the worst.

    Can you believe where we are as a country? I even sometimes have a hard time believing this.

    We are hoping the former FBI Director and a porn star are going to take out an authoritarian idiot running our country. If we had a functional country or a functional Republican party we would not have to be here. They would have already done their duty.


    Boy Stormy can dish it (none / 0) (#31)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Mar 24, 2018 at 06:56:28 PM EST
    You just can't slut shame that girl. She's having none of it.

    I have seen (5.00 / 1) (#36)
    by Ga6thDem on Sat Mar 24, 2018 at 07:22:27 PM EST
    that she may all by herself cure a lot of the slut shaming and may actually break the chains that society puts on so many women. Imagine a porn star being able to do something the "righteous" women have not been able to accomplish.

    There are already some comments (none / 0) (#1)
    by Peter G on Sat Mar 24, 2018 at 03:08:37 PM EST
    on the rallies on yesterday's "LV Shooter" thread, including mine from Philadelphia, and one from L.A. by DfH.

    I actually just saw (5.00 / 1) (#4)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Mar 24, 2018 at 04:07:58 PM EST
    The 6:20 of silence.  Wow.  That was so brilliant.

    Some of these kids including Emma could well not just be casting votes but getting votes


    Here is that (5.00 / 1) (#5)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Mar 24, 2018 at 04:21:49 PM EST

    So powerful. You never get silence on tv.  As the bobble heads said, silence is uncomfortable.  Your mind starts trying to fill it.  You can not help feeling just how long 6:20 could be if you are being hunted.

    One kid said it reminded him of the silence in the homes and at the dinner tables of the dead kids.

    It was something.  It's the headline of the day and the thing that will be most remembered.


    There is a very large focus (none / 0) (#2)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Mar 24, 2018 at 03:31:08 PM EST
    On voting and registering to vote.  The bad news for republicans is that large numbers of those in the street today can vote this year and many more in 20.

    Watching this I get the feeling it's not a flash in the pan.

    I think people of that age love having a cause.  Remember how dedicated we were to ours?  The truth is we won a great many of those issues.  I think this is the new cause.

    It's so basic.  I want to feel safe in school.  And even better they are virtually impervious to the attacks so effectively used before

    This is a big day.  A great day.

    My comment in the last thread was I would like to have the liquor contract for the NRA and their toadies today.  The threat to their death grip on DC could not be more clear

    Dunno (none / 0) (#3)
    by linea on Sat Mar 24, 2018 at 03:59:23 PM EST
    Exactly what legislation is March For Our Lives proposing?

    The FB page you linked to ... (none / 0) (#10)
    by Yman on Sat Mar 24, 2018 at 06:01:26 PM EST
    ... has a link right to their website and mission statement.

    I read that (none / 0) (#12)
    by linea on Sat Mar 24, 2018 at 06:08:42 PM EST
    before posting the link. Duh.

    It would be better if they listed what specific legislation they want passed. In my opinion.


    So you want these kids ... (none / 0) (#14)
    by Yman on Sat Mar 24, 2018 at 06:12:20 PM EST
    ... to draft legislation so you can read it and provide your interpretation of it.



    Maybe you can (none / 0) (#15)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Mar 24, 2018 at 06:12:32 PM EST
    Write that up for them.

    There is one thing they all (none / 0) (#19)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Mar 24, 2018 at 06:20:54 PM EST
    Made crystal clear, any politicians taking gun lobbying money they are coming after. They don't care who the politician is.

    All who spoke today want assault weapons and large clips banned, and they want rigorous  background checks.


    They are definitely (none / 0) (#22)
    by Ga6thDem on Sat Mar 24, 2018 at 06:24:23 PM EST
    coming for Marco Rubio. He's is one of the biggest NRA whores in the senate and he represents their state. He would already be gone were it not for the way things shook out in '16.

    The march turnout in Parkland FL (none / 0) (#25)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Mar 24, 2018 at 06:41:56 PM EST
    Wasn't small either.

    Between the 6 minutes of silence and kids recording during the shooting, allowing us to see their texts and hearing their 911 conversations, average folks cant hide from the reality anymore.

    I would have thought Vegas would have gotten us around that corner, but it didn't.


    Does everyone know (none / 0) (#26)
    by linea on Sat Mar 24, 2018 at 06:43:36 PM EST
    That there already was a `assault style weapon' and large magazine ban?

    The Federal Assault Weapons Ban (AWB)--officially, the Public Safety and Recreational Firearms Use Protection Act--is a subsection of the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994, a United States federal law that included a prohibition on the manufacture for civilian use of certain semi-automatic firearms it defined as assault weapons, as well as certain ammunition magazines it defined as "large capacity".

    The ten-year ban was passed by the U.S. Congress on September 13, 1994, following a close 52-48 vote in the Senate, and signed into law by then President Bill Clinton the same day. The ban only applied to weapons manufactured after the date of the ban's enactment, and it expired on September 13, 2004, in accordance with its sunset provision.

    Yes (5.00 / 4) (#28)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Mar 24, 2018 at 06:46:58 PM EST
    All of us here knew this.

    Did you know the Bush administration deliberately allowed it to expire?


    Hnestly, I have trouble ... (5.00 / 2) (#37)
    by Yman on Sat Mar 24, 2018 at 07:34:17 PM EST
    ... telling whether this is a serious question or not.

    No joke.


    Actually (none / 0) (#17)
    by linea on Sat Mar 24, 2018 at 06:17:26 PM EST
    After some search, I found this on their website under Action > Sign the Petition.

    Our elected officials MUST ACT by:

    (1.) Passing a law to ban the sale of assault weapons like the ones used in Las Vegas, Orlando, Sutherland Springs, Aurora, Sandy Hook and, most recently, to kill 17 innocent people and injure more than a dozen others at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School.

    (2.) Prohibiting the sale of high-capacity magazines such as the ones the shooter at our school--and so many other recent mass shootings used.

    (3.) Closing the loophole in our background check law that allows dangerous people who shouldn't be allowed to purchase firearms to slip through the cracks and buy guns online or at gun shows.  

    I was out and about running errands (none / 0) (#6)
    by Anne on Sat Mar 24, 2018 at 04:42:11 PM EST
    today, and listening to a lot of the rally via CSPAN radio - and I can't tell you how many times my eyes filled and my heart ached listening to speeches and poems that so eloquently expressed the grief, anger, and determination of these young people.  I was so proud of them.

    So, Trump plays golf, agonizes over whether he should start publicly fighting Stormy and Karen and Summer - because of all the terrible problems facing us, that's right at the top of the list -  and hundreds of elected representatives pretend that none of this is happening.  Some of them might want to spend some time this recess brushing up their resumes.

    There isn't just going to be a wave in November, I truly believe it's going to be a millennial wave.

    It seems strange to me (none / 0) (#7)
    by itscookin on Sat Mar 24, 2018 at 05:36:52 PM EST
    that young people are marching to give up their rights. Usually the youth want more rights, not fewer. If we wanted to protect young people, taking away their cellphones would save around 300 of them every year, but I'm sure they wouldn't be marching in support of that. We'd be hearing about it's their right to have their own phone even if 11 of them die every month from texting and driving. We could save even more if we raised the age of majority to 26, the age we've decided to make them responsible for their own health insurance. No drinking, no smoking. no driving until they're 26. But they'd be marching against that, too. Today is an anti-gun, anti-Trump rally, and that's OK. But wrapping it up as a rally to support the kids is laughable.

    It shouldn't seem strange (5.00 / 1) (#9)
    by Yman on Sat Mar 24, 2018 at 05:59:47 PM EST
    What "rights" do you think they are marching to give up?  Presumably, you're talking about guns.  The "right" to buy a gun without a background check?  The "right" to own an assault weapon?  The "right" to buy high capacity magazines?

    Those aren't "rights".


    The only purpose (5.00 / 1) (#11)
    by Ga6thDem on Sat Mar 24, 2018 at 06:04:44 PM EST
    guns have are to kill. Cell phones have a use other than causing accidents. This is a major logic fail.

    Just treat guns like cars. I would say Americans have largely proven to the entire world that we cannot handle guns. We have more gun deaths per capita than any other western country. Couching it in the rhetoric of the NRA has been the problem. The NRA wants us to all throw our hands up and the country to be like Somalia where you cannot walk down the street without being shot. They do not have the country's best interests at heart. I have been saying for a long time now those gun owners that are responsible have been doing themselves a disservice by letting the NRA speak for them.


    Sensible gun control is a very longtime (5.00 / 1) (#29)
    by caseyOR on Sat Mar 24, 2018 at 06:49:00 PM EST
    battle. I mean decades long. When I was in ninth grade, way back in the mid-1960s, our debate topic was gun control.  This was before the AR-15 became a p#nis substitute. Before the NRA went completely around-the-bend. Before politicians completely sold their souls to the NRA.

     These kids are very savvy. They understand how the media works. They know that the lifeblood of politics is money. They are determined to beat the NRA when it comes to getting the political votes. What they are doing to Marco Rubio is great. They call out his cowardice and greed at every opportunity. Other NRA owned politicians should take note.

    So, a glimmer of hope in these hopeless Trump years.


    You'll like this (none / 0) (#8)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Mar 24, 2018 at 05:49:14 PM EST
    Here, Lou Dobbs and company hit every cliché in the book to discredit them

    Absolutely vile.

    DOM GIORDANO: That's what the march is gonna be about tomorrow, Lou. As you know, I'm an educator, and I see these kids, the Parkland kids, a couple of them are out of control.

    LOU DOBBS (HOST): Isn't that disgusting? I mean, we're tuning in to high school assemblies, to get the aggregated wisdom of 18-year-olds. I mean, this is really --

    GINA LOUDON: Who by their own words, Lou, say that they shouldn't be able to own guns even though they can go to war but they think that they should be able to make laws. None of this makes any sense at all. And the very fact that we are giving such gravitas to people who just -- they haven't had enough life experience, yet, Lou, to be experts on much of anything yet. And I don't think -- it's not insulting them to say that.


    GIORDANO: I have to say too, Lou, as an educator, there's a couple of these kids that are just rude in the way that they proceed here, as if they are bulletproof, so to speak. But the media is almost laundering their own opinions through these kids.

    DOBBS: Let's find another -- let's find another noun next time. (chuckling)

    Note to Lou (none / 0) (#21)
    by KeysDan on Sat Mar 24, 2018 at 06:23:28 PM EST
    and Gina:  A country that hates its youth has no future.

    Well (none / 0) (#24)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Mar 24, 2018 at 06:32:21 PM EST
    I guess.  The thing is I grew up being hated probably even more by the "Dobbs" of the time.  At least they were not making an issue of his they "probably smell".

    But Dobbs and others just add to the eerie feeling I have seen this before

    And the scariest part for Dobbs and his ilk is they are every bit as uncompromising as we were.

    Anne mentioned "hey hey LBJ/NRA how many kids did you kill today"

    That was harsh on Lyndon.  But it probably saved lives.  These kids are the same.  Mocking the bump stock thing.  They are not going to sit down and shut up.

    Hate all they want.


    Wow, they haven't had enough (none / 0) (#33)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Mar 24, 2018 at 07:18:43 PM EST
    Life experience?

    They've experienced 6 minutes of life and death that I haven't experienced. I have this odd goal too of never experiencing that. I don't want my children or grandchildren experiencing it either. Some trauma experiences can never be fully healed. It just isn't worth it ever so I can own an assault weapon if I want one.


    The best part of today (none / 0) (#35)
    by Chuck0 on Sat Mar 24, 2018 at 07:20:27 PM EST
    is exactly what Giordano said. "Rude." I loved every rude word of it. The did not make nice gracious speeches today in DC. They told the NRA lackeys and toadies "we are coming for you." No bread crumbs, no thoughts and prayers. Eff you. I loved it. Good on those kids. All power to the people.