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Padilla Allegedly Filled Out Al Qaeda Application

by Last Night in Little Rock

The NY Times reports today that the government stated at a hearing for Jose Padilla that he filled out an application form to join al Qaeda.

The "Mujahideen Data Form" bears the signature of Abu Abdallah al Muhajir, which the F.B.I. says is the Muslim name that Mr. Padilla adopted after he converted to Islam. Defense lawyers have questioned the authenticity of the document, potentially a critical piece of evidence for prosecutors trying to prove that Mr. Padilla sought to become a terrorist.

The defense disputes its authenticity. This is the first glimpse of what the government is using to detain Padilla, accused of planning to make a "dirty bomb."

Mr. Padilla, an American citizen, was charged in November after more than three years in military custody as an enemy combatant. American officials have said he was plotting to detonate a radioactive "dirty bomb" or blow up apartment buildings in an American city, but those accusations are not part of the criminal case expected to go to trial in September.

One of Mr. Padilla's lawyers, Michael Caruso, said at the hearing on Thursday that there was scant evidence to link Mr. Padilla to the form. "Weak is not the right word," Mr. Caruso said of the government's case. The form, translated from Arabic by the F.B.I., contains questions about education, languages spoken and marital status. It also asks about religious training and whether the applicant has military experience. In an answer to one question, Mr. Padilla allegedly said he traveled to "Egypt, to study--Saudi Arabia for hajj--Yemen, as a way to go through for jihad."

Update (TL): The Miami Herald also reports, with more comments from Padilla's attorneys.

Padilla's attorney, Michael Caruso, questioned the authenticity of Padilla's alleged mujahadeen application, saying there was ''no direct evidence'' he filled out the form. He asked [Judge] Garber three times if he could call an FBI agent to the witness stand to ask about the document. Garber rejected his requests.

Caruso went on to describe the indictment against his client as ``vacant.''

''No evidence . . . shows that José Padilla has ever engaged in any violent [terrorist] actions toward anybody in this country or anyone in any other country overseas,'' Caruso said. ``The government is trying to build a circumstantial case.''

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    Re: Padilla Allegedly Filled Out Al Qaeda Applicat (none / 0) (#1)
    by ras on Sat Jan 14, 2006 at 11:43:49 AM EST
    AQ has application forms? Who knew? "Please state your career goals, with emphasis on the short-term."

    Re: Padilla Allegedly Filled Out Al Qaeda Applicat (none / 0) (#2)
    by Dadler on Sat Jan 14, 2006 at 12:09:58 PM EST
    Salary history? mostly minimum wage Family member to contact in case of emergency? my mom Do you have transportation to and from work? the magic bus Seriously, I hope a fair trial is possible here, but my doubts, to say the least, are serious. It'll be interesting to see if this AQ application charge carries through, or if the issue is never raised again. If it is, it'll also be interesting to see what the defense is able to do to cast doubt on the veracity of it.

    Here's a published copy of it.

    Re: Padilla Allegedly Filled Out Al Qaeda Applicat (none / 0) (#4)
    by scarshapedstar on Sat Jan 14, 2006 at 02:12:02 PM EST
    Well, this is just retarded. AQ deals in logistics; you want to blow up a building, you go to them with your plan and ask for money. Unless you're a billionaire, you can't just "join" them, and the notion of filling out an application seems more like David Letterman material.

    Re: Padilla Allegedly Filled Out Al Qaeda Applicat (none / 0) (#5)
    by swingvote on Sat Jan 14, 2006 at 03:55:01 PM EST
    Padilla's attorney, Michael Caruso, questioned the authenticity of Padilla's alleged mujahadeen application, saying there was ''no direct evidence'' he filled out the form. Hardly surprising since it would be astounding if his lawyer came forward and confirmed that the application was valid and signed by Padilla. What is surprising is the idea that Al Queda uses applications. It sounds almost corporate.

    Re: Padilla Allegedly Filled Out Al Qaeda Applicat (none / 0) (#6)
    by kdog on Sat Jan 14, 2006 at 04:02:59 PM EST
    It seems moronic to me. What criminal organization is going to keep written records of their members? The govt. has lost all credibility in this case. After denying this citizen due process for years, you think they are gonna blink at fabricating some AQ applications? Who knows...but it sounds shady.

    What's even more surprising are the people who would believe AQ uses applications forms in the first place. Sheesh. Utter stupidity. Oh, and isn't it really "convenient" that they found this like 4 years after they first picked Padilla up, and right after they tried to move him from Guatanamo into the U.S. criminal justice system and faced a lot of flack over it? No, nothing suspicious there...

    OK, I'll give the government the benefit of the doubt and say it's real. Can we get on with charging him with a crime and giving him a (*cough*)speedy trial?

    Re: Padilla Allegedly Filled Out Al Qaeda Applicat (none / 0) (#9)
    by Sailor on Sat Jan 14, 2006 at 06:07:54 PM EST
    Yeah, that's it, we uhhh discovered the application years ago. Yep, that's it, that's the ticket! [/Jon Lovitz]

    Re: Padilla Allegedly Filled Out Al Qaeda Applicat (none / 0) (#10)
    by jimcee on Sat Jan 14, 2006 at 08:16:18 PM EST
    Al Queda applications? Where do you get them at the local Manpower outlet? It seems pretty dubious to me. Now if it were an al Queda grant proposal it might make sense afterall it would have to be a grant and not a loan....

    If you didn't get hired, wouldn't they have to kill you since you now have contact information for a terrorist cell?

    Hey, does anyone know what the starting salary is at Al Queda?

    Re: Padilla Allegedly Filled Out Al Qaeda Applicat (none / 0) (#13)
    by kdog on Mon Jan 16, 2006 at 09:45:06 AM EST
    I hear it's strictly a commision job jpaul. 72 virgins per completed assignment. No health benefits to speak of. Fully paid retirement in paradise though:)

    Re: Padilla Allegedly Filled Out Al Qaeda Applicat (none / 0) (#14)
    by chupetin on Mon Jan 16, 2006 at 09:47:53 AM EST
    I hear that the early retirement benefits are totally worth it. I can't recall the specific number of virgins, but it's more than GE or HP is offering.

    Re: Padilla Allegedly Filled Out Al Qaeda Applicat (none / 0) (#15)
    by chupetin on Mon Jan 16, 2006 at 09:49:31 AM EST
    Dammit kdog, you beat me to it.

    Re: Padilla Allegedly Filled Out Al Qaeda Applicat (none / 0) (#16)
    by swingvote on Mon Jan 16, 2006 at 10:28:04 AM EST
    Hmmm, I don't now. Early retirement sounds nice, but no health care or pension? Sounds a bit like worker exploitation to me. I wonder if there is a union. If so, maybe then can go on strike for a better deal. I'm sure there would be lots of people here who would support them. And 72 virigins? I don't think the wife would like that very much. Too many mouths to feed and clothe. Plus I'd never be able to get in the bathroom again.