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By Jeralyn, Section Media
Posted on Sun Oct 30, 2005 at 09:49:02 AM EST
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Thanks to Ian of The Political Teen for putting up the video of this morning's Reliable Sources blogger segment featuring Instapundit Glenn Reynolds, Reporter bloggerRoger Simon (not this Roger Simon) and me. The topics were the war in Iraq, Harriet Miers and Fitzgerald's indictment of Scooter Libby.

You can watch it here.

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    Bloggers on Sunday TV | 24 comments (24 topical)
    Re: Bloggers on Sunday TV (none / 0) (#1)
    by Sailor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:05:32 PM EST
    I caught part of it, nice job Jeralyn!

    Re: Bloggers on Sunday TV (none / 0) (#2)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:05:32 PM EST
    I must admit to trying to figure out where the guy with the hat was, and who the guy with the mustache was.

    Re: Bloggers on Sunday TV (none / 0) (#3)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:05:32 PM EST
    You did a great job on CNN just now! I want to comment on the Scooter indictments. 1. It is obvious to many of us that Libby lied to protect Cheney and possibly Bush. We are not stupid citizens. I hope Fitzgerald keeps going but it would also be healing for Bush to come out and make the admissions as to the relevance of this issue to the Iraq war. I would also love to see Collin Powell be open and honest with us as to how he views his part in the justification as to this war. 2. Bush needs to also ask for the resignation of Rove, indictment or not, it has been proven that he did play a role in this leak. Bush stated that anyone in his administration that had "anything" to do with it would be gone... Bush... put your actions where your mouth is for once. 3. As a citizen, not just a Democrat, I want to share this thought with all. This nation seems to be divided by one issue, abortion. It is legal to have an abortion under our constitution thanks to Roe v. Wade and the majority of the public does not want to see that right over-turned. So let's all agree it is law and end this debate. I will never vote for a republican until this issue is laid to rest, regardless of the other issues surrounding our nation. We have so many other more important issues to address as a nation but until we can put this paralyzing issue to rest, we will never get to address these other equally as important issues. We need discussions around this war, about the economny, about taking a lead in the world on global warming, etc... 4. When we allow one issue to divide us, many other issues go by the wayside, such as poverty, education (look how we stand in the world in education lately... pretty embarrassing)! I don't see how WE as a nation are positive role models in the world as to human rights issues. Let's clean up our act and focus on Americans, then we can hold our heads up and propigate our views to the rest of the world! Thank you for listening. Patsym

    Re: Bloggers on Sunday TV (none / 0) (#4)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:05:32 PM EST
    Reynolds, Simon and you? how fair and balanced of them. Maybe they were counting Howie as a liberal. Always cool to see you on the tube, though.

    Re: Bloggers on Sunday TV (none / 0) (#5)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:05:33 PM EST
    Actually, it was not the blogger Roger Simon but the news reporter who also has a blog. Different Roger Simon.

    Re: Bloggers on Sunday TV (none / 0) (#6)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:05:33 PM EST
    patsym writes:
    1. It is obvious to many of us that Libby lied to protect Cheney and possibly Bush. We are not stupid citizens.
    Could you provide some specific examples?

    Re: Bloggers on Sunday TV (none / 0) (#7)
    by Kitt on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:05:33 PM EST
    Oh, yeah - sh&t, forgot this! Jeralyn - great job! Like I tell the cats rather smugly, 'I read her blog'. I wish I could say they give some indication of caring.

    Re: Bloggers on Sunday TV (none / 0) (#8)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:05:33 PM EST
    off topic comments deleted. There are open threads for that.

    Re: Bloggers on Sunday TV (none / 0) (#9)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:05:33 PM EST
    Well I was certainly glad that you got the last word. Perhaps when you get a chance you can explain to Glenn Reynolds why obstruction of justice is considered to be a serious matter and not "a mouse."

    Re: Bloggers on Sunday TV (none / 0) (#10)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:05:33 PM EST
    Could you provide some specific examples?
    In our discussions, most of us believe because Libby is a very proficient, experienced attorney that he knew exactly what he was doing in his comments to the grand jury. The conclusion we came to as the only "explanation" for his behavior was to cover up for the revenge plot on Wilson by exposing his wife and that knowing how controlling Bush is that this likely came from him, not just Cheney. I don't think our opinions are out of the ordinary.

    Re: Bloggers on Sunday TV (none / 0) (#11)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:05:33 PM EST
    Jeralyn, One other point: I was glad to see Roger Simon (not the silly hat guy) specious WWII comparison.

    Re: Bloggers on Sunday TV (none / 0) (#12)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:05:33 PM EST
    Haste makes waste. That should have read I was glad to see Roger Simon (not the silly hat guy) smack down Glenn's specious WWII comparison.

    Re: Bloggers on Sunday TV (none / 0) (#13)
    by Kitt on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:05:33 PM EST
    Ahhh.... my comment wasn't that off-topic. The media, unlike Glenn's statement, is NOT anti-Bush, anti-war having been cowed (as Helen Thomas recently pointed out) since 9/11. I've noted that Glenn in the forums in which I've seen him does not listen; he's forming his answers & is bent on interrupting. And as Randy Paul picked up on, Roger Simon illustrated that WWII comparison doesn't work. Glenn is right on about the WH reading the blogs. Glenn: 'The mountain has labored and brought forth a mouse.' Wishful thinking. This and his comments about the media are one reason I think he's duplicitous. Your points on immunity, plea bargains, & other negotitations are absolutely important. There's more to this than what happened on Friday.

    Re: Bloggers on Sunday TV (none / 0) (#14)
    by squeaky on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:05:33 PM EST
    kitt-your comment did not seem off topic at all to me. Baby with the bathwater I suppose. I liked the links as well. Helen Thomas was a scream.

    Re: Bloggers on Sunday TV (none / 0) (#15)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:05:33 PM EST
    I am so glad to have found this blog, I have my own theory about Libby's odd letter to Judith miller: "the aspens" to me is a reference to the Aspen lodge at Camp David. I have read Bob Woodward and other's accounts of Bush having meetings about how to justify the Iraq invasion at Camp David. Nixon's whitehouse tapes contained transcripts of conversations held in the aspen lodge at camp david that related to Watergate cover up, the turn in clusters reference may allude to the long line of men that had to fall before it was realized that the big cheese was in on it all. A quote from Richard Reeves in his book nixon a man alone in the white house Nixon to Press Secretary Ron Ziegler after telling Haldeman and Ziegler to resign inside of the aspen lodge at camp david " It's all over Ron , do you know that" while standing at the window of the Aspen Lodge looking outside. By the way I am no liberal neophyte, I am a political science major at UCF and have over the past 20 years of my life studied politics. I hope someone in the mainstream press investigates the codes in Libby's letter, there are clues.... I think I know even more but all for now.. peace to you all

    Re: Bloggers on Sunday TV (none / 0) (#16)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:05:33 PM EST
    woops meant to say he asked Haldeman and Ehrlichman to resign at Aspen Lodge sorry no mis info from moi....

    Re: Bloggers on Sunday TV (none / 0) (#17)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:05:33 PM EST
    patsym - What you wrote was:
    1. It is obvious to many of us that Libby lied to protect Cheney and possibly Bush.
    In what way? That Cheney told him about Mrs. Wilson? And if he was lying, why didn't he destroy the notes? Won't wash Patsy, unless you have this built in desire to believe anything bad about the administration. Which I think you do. BTW - Since Mrs. Wilson was involved herself in sending her husband, a non-CIA agent, it appears to me that she was getting only what she was passing out. Natelle C writes:
    hope someone in the mainstream press investigates the codes in Libby's letter, there are clues.... I think I know even more but all for now.. peace to you all
    Welcome, Natelle, humor is always needed.

    Re: Bloggers on Sunday TV (none / 0) (#18)
    by squeaky on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:05:33 PM EST
    ppj-Is the new RNC talking point or are you off your meds again.
    BTW - Since Mrs. Wilson was involved herself in sending her husband, a non-CIA agent, it appears to me that she was getting only what she was passing out.
    Re: Bloggers on Sunday TV (none / 0) (#19)
    by joejoejoe on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:05:34 PM EST
    I only caught part of it but you were the class of the joint. And does CNN now have a news show with a bald guy in a zoot suit and the blogger babes? Shouldn't that be on Comedy Central or Spice?

    Re: Bloggers on Sunday TV (none / 0) (#20)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:05:34 PM EST
    joejoejoe - Can you help Natelle with her codes? You appear to very qualified... Squeaky - Yeah, talking points straight from the Senate Select Committe:
    On February 19, 2002, CPD hosted a meeting with the former ambassador, intelligence analysts from both the CIA and INR, and several individuals from the DO's Africa and CPD divisions. The purpose of the meeting was to discuss the merits of the former ambassador traveling to Niger. An INR analyst's notes indicate that the meeting was "apparently convened by [the former ambassador's] wife who had the idea to dispatch [him] to use his contacts to sort out the Iraq-Niger uranium issue." The former ambassador's wife told Committee staff that she only attended the meeting to introduce her husband and left after about three minutes.
    Yes, having set the stage.... Posted by at October 30, 2005 09:59 PM

    Re: Bloggers on Sunday TV (none / 0) (#22)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:05:34 PM EST
    Darkly quotes:
    my wife sent to her superiors that says "my husband has good relations with the PM (prime minister) and the former Minister of Mines, (not to mention lots of French contacts) both of whom could possibly shed light on this sort of activity." There is no suggestion or recommendation in that statement that I be sent on the trip. Indeed it is little more than a recitation of my contacts and bona fides.
    If Mrs. Wilson was not wanting her husband "sent," then why did she write the memo? Let me see, I don't want Darkly to have a job, so I will tell everyone how great he is.... Doesn't make sense. I think we have established that she wanted him sent on the mission. Now, can we get to the real question? What was her motive? We know from David Corn's article in the Nation 7/16/03
    And Wilson notes, with a laugh, that at that point their twins were two years old, and it would not have been much in his wife's interest to encourage him to head off to Africa.
    Indeed. So what drove her? After all, the CIA has actual professional agents who do such work at all times. Did she think they were all incapable?

    Re: Bloggers on Sunday TV (none / 0) (#23)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:05:35 PM EST
    If Mrs. Wilson was not wanting her husband "sent," then why did she write the memo? If she wanted him sent there, why was her memo:
    ......... little more than a recitation of my contacts and bona fides.
    I mean, that's what I would do if I wanted someone sent on a mission: Send out a recitation of their contacts and bona fides, not take part in any meetings about the mission, cross my fingers and hope for the best.
    In fact, Valerie was not in the meeting at which the subject of my trip was raised. Neither was the CPD Reports officer. After having escorted me into the room, she departed the meeting to avoid even the appearance of conflict of interest.
    After all, the CIA has actual professional agents who do such work at all times. Did she think they were all incapable?
    Sending her husbands' 'resume'(for want of a better word) up the chain of command = Ms. Plame thinking that all the CIA 'professional agents' were incapable of doing this work. Good work PPJ. A few more posts like this, and I can get you a developement deal with the Boomerange channel as "Angry Out-of-Touch Guy". TTFN, Whizzy.

    Re: Bloggers on Sunday TV (none / 0) (#24)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:05:36 PM EST
    Darkly writes:
    Good work PPJ. A few more posts like this, and I can get you a developement deal with the Boomerange channel as "Angry Out-of-Touch Guy".
    Translated into Darkly speak:
    I can't dispute, but I must refute... Trolling, trolling that's my way.... Maybe the audience willl forget what I say...
    Not hardly, Darkly. No way.

    Re: Bloggers on Sunday TV (none / 0) (#26)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:05:37 PM EST
    Jeralyn.. Nice work on CNN. That was the first time I saw what you looked like. You are very cute. Are you single? Nice to see TL get some good TV time. Congrats...

    Bloggers on Sunday TV | 24 comments (24 topical)