If not, we're left with a broken family who could very well end up on public assistance.

But tell me. Do you think just because someone comes into the country and has a child that they have a free ticket in?

Confused by the "illegal" part of "illegal alien" again?

The status quo depends just as much on employers willing to flout the law as it does on the immigrant workers themselves.

Lora - I saw nothin in his statements that indicated that the parents would be deported without being united with their family.

I'll join you in the fines. Now to do that fairly, we are going to have to have some very definitive ID, otherwise how will the business know? Show me your papers, please.

Johnny - It means that he didn't say anything about it. There. That wasn't hard, was it?

And the plan is to deport, not lock up.

Our goal at DHS is to completely eliminate the “catch and release” enforcement problem, and return every single illegal entrant – no exceptions. It should be possible to achieve significant and measurable progress to this end in less than a year.

Johnny - The ID you had is easily forged/obtained and couldn't be used if fines/jail terms were given people for hiring illegal aliens.

Chertoff has declared open war on undocumented residents...

our strategy of reforming our immigration system is a three-pillar, comprehensive approach that focuses on controlling the border, building a robust interior enforcement program, and establishing a Temporary Worker Program.

Nations exist because they have borders, and enforce those borders, if they can. Whatever tribe your ancestors may have been part of obviously couldn't enforce their borders. That is what happens when weaker groups/nations run into stronger groups.

And no. All ID isn't easily forged. There are a variety of ways to make forgery difficult. I repeat. I agree with hefty fines. But we will have to insure that the employer can be assured that the person is, or is not, legal. That means much better ID.

wow, Johnny, you are 200 years old. that must be some kind of record. But, getting back to reality, why are we obligated to spend our tax dollars to subsidize corrupt governments such as Mexico who throw their social problems on us? we have our own poor as I am sure you were happy to point out during Katrina's aftermath. if these folks coming are so enterprising and hardworking, they can be enterprising and hardworking in their own country too. of course, that ignores the large numbers of criminals coming and all of the other social problems created.

Another question would be, what group did the tribe of your ancestors defeat/destroy to take control of the land you now refer to?

Most of the US southwest was mexican terratory until the US "took" it. Look at the history of Texas, for example. Completely illegal annexation. All of the "Mexicans" were not driven out either, so there are many who have lived here, or migrated back and forth, for a long time. It is the height of arrogance to call them "aliens", legal or not.

Why do you guys constantly go back hundreds of years to try and make a point.

What our founding fathers did back in the day is irrelevant here.

Let them apply and come legally like most of our ancestors did. What's wrong with that?

You need to be concerned about the flood of illegals "NOW" that are choking this country.

During the Great Depression, anywhere from one to two million people were deported in an effort by the government to free up jobs for those who were considered “real Americans” and rid the county governments of “the problem.” The campaign, called the Mexican Reparation, was authorized by President Herbert Hoover. Although President Franklin Roosevelt ended federal support when he took office, many state and local governments continued with their efforts.

Estimates now indicate that approximately 60 percent of the people deported were children who were born in America and others who, while of Mexican descent, were legal citizens.

Estimates now indicate that approximately 60 percent of the people deported were children who were born in America and others who, while of Mexican descent, were legal citizens.

Illegal aliens having U.S. citizen children -> huge problems

No illegal aliens -> no mixed-status families -> it's not an issue.

We're importing millions of people from Mexico who think this is their land. Anyone who does not see that as a clear danger to the U.S. is an idiot. Unfortunately, there are a lot of idiots in Washington.

bury my heart at wounded knee, johnny(why the name given to you by the white oppressor?). try rereading your rant-the noble savage/evil westerner tripe has been a staple of the left for years. it is why they are able to portray islamic psychopaths who bomb people in pizza shops as somehow being heroic or justified. you are historically ignorant as to the behavior of "early" Americans (by the way-they came here from elsewhere and, guess what, displaced folks who were in the way). the brown people of Mexico aren't scary-they just belong in their own country unless they come here legally. growing up in Northern Michigan, I knew plenty of indians-they aren't scary either as those who flock to their casinos will tell you. not many were whiners like you though-that is scary.

johnny(why the name given to you by the white oppressor?).

You display an ignorance about the so-called "Indian wars" that even the most rascist Hollywood movie producers would admire.

Charley thinks