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Imagining Bush Without Rove

by TChris

If Karl Rove is indicted, will he lose his job?

The evolution of Mr. Bush's statements on the CIA leak case indicate how loath he is to lose the man he has described as his political "architect." Early on in the controversy over the disclosure of Ms. Plame's identity, the president vowed to fire anyone involved. Later, after testimony implicating Mr. Rove became public, Mr. Bush expressed a looser standard, saying he would remove aides who committed crimes. Last week, amid speculation that Mr. Rove might face charges from special prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald, Mr. Bush wouldn't say whether he would remove an aide under indictment.

Maybe, like Brownie, Rove will resign, only to be hired back on contract to investigate what the administration "did right and what it did wrong" regarding Valerie Plame.

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    Re: Imagining Bush Without Rove (none / 0) (#1)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:50 PM EST
    Get the latest PlameGate news, briefings, timelines, statutes and other essential documents in the Rove/PlameGate Scandal Center.

    Re: Imagining Bush Without Rove (none / 0) (#2)
    by cpinva on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:50 PM EST
    actually, i think rove is bush's brain. notice how totally out of it bush was when rove wasn't there? even more out of it than usual. the automatic cortical functions go on, but what qualifies as the analytical functions cease when rove isn't around. granted, they are really low level analytical functions, but consider the source.

    Re: Imagining Bush Without Rove (none / 0) (#3)
    by Pete Guither on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:50 PM EST
    Episode 1: With Rove in the big house, Bush ends up thinking he really is the President. Hilarity ensues. Episode 2: Bush legalizes cocaine and nationalizes football before going on vacation.

    Re: Imagining Bush Without Rove (none / 0) (#4)
    by scarshapedstar on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:50 PM EST
    Maybe, like Brownie, Rove will resign, only to be hired back on contract to investigate what the administration "did right and what it did wrong" regarding Valerie Plame.
    Now that's the Party of Personal Responsibility.

    Re: Imagining Bush Without Rove (none / 0) (#6)
    by Edger on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:50 PM EST
    Bush without his brain (Rove):
    After all, the basis of Bush's phenomenal political career has been people's underestimating him. As his political advisor Karl Rove said in 2002: "I can't explain why they underestimate him, but they do. Whatever the reason, I hope they keep doing it." In 1974, George spent Superbowl Sunday at a party hosted by Hunter S. Thompson. When asked decades later if he remembered whether Bush had used any drugs at his party, Thompson replied:
    "I can't be expected to remember what every drug-addled yuppie hanger-oner who wanted to get close to me during a football game twenty-five years ago digested. There were so many dope fiends milling about, I don't remember what some Yalie named Bush, whose father was a factotum in the Nixon Administration, was doing. But he strikes me as the sort of person I would have thrown out of the room. A rich, beer-drunk yahoo with a big allowance who passes out in your bathtub. ... I don't want to become the Deep Drug Throat. ... I won't do it."


    Re: Imagining Bush Without Rove (none / 0) (#7)
    by Last Night in Little Rock on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:50 PM EST
    Imagine Charley McCarthy without Edgar Bergen.

    Re: Imagining Bush Without Rove (none / 0) (#8)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:51 PM EST
    Imagine a Monkey without it's Turd

    Re: Imagining Bush Without Rove (none / 0) (#9)
    by Edger on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:51 PM EST
    Imagine... really... Imagine ... the world without Rove/Bush.

    Re: Imagining Bush Without Rove (none / 0) (#10)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:51 PM EST
    Imagine the New York Times without Judy Miller... http://katrinamemo.blogspot.com/2005/10/judy-millers-pro-war-propaganda-is.html

    Re: Imagining Bush Without Rove (none / 0) (#11)
    by SeeEmDee on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:51 PM EST
    The entire PNAC crew must be feeling ghostly cross-hairs floating down onto their backs. Miller was a primary conduit for the unreliable intel; a classic 'useful idiot' in a 'false flag' operation if ever there was one. But it was her associates much higher up the food chain that were the biggest drummers of "WAR!-WAR!-WAR!" refrain. The drumming has suffered of late, largely because the drummers may be looking at each other and wondering who will be left standing when the musical chair game stops. If only we hadn't heard that bloody tattoo earlier, quite a few good people on all sides would be alive today...

    Re: Imagining Bush Without Rove (none / 0) (#12)
    by Edger on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:51 PM EST
    PNAC = Project to Never Acquit Cheaters?

    Re: Imagining Bush Without Rove (none / 0) (#13)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:51 PM EST
    If Rove is guilty -we will see a Bushco change in the belief in rehabilitation and early release programs

    Re: Imagining Bush Without Rove (none / 0) (#14)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:51 PM EST
    If Rove comes back as a consultant (actually, he could probably consult from prison if he gets enough cell space), he can make 5/600K for a few months. That's some good money, and he'll need to pay off his lawyers as well.

    Re: Imagining Bush Without Rove (none / 0) (#15)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:51 PM EST
    Bush was very clear that if anyone was convinced of a serious crime and unpardoned that he would no longer be at the white house.

    Re: Imagining Bush Without Rove (none / 0) (#16)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:52 PM EST
    Bush has shown a lot of loyalty to his inner circle. Rumsfeld comes to mind. Having said that, aside from Bush, I have no doubt that the beltway Republicans would let Terd Sandwich be the scapegoat for any political threat to their agenda. That's all D.C. is good for, scapegoating individuals to mask larger indiscretions. Bush has an oil slick teflon coating. If the Neocons can get away with the lie that was Iraq - they can get away with anything.

    Re: Imagining Bush Without Rove (none / 0) (#17)
    by Edger on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:54 PM EST
    Tampa Student writes:
    Bush has an oil slick teflon coating.
    One of the problems with Rove... I mean with Teflon... is that when the heat is on it begins to break down. Another problem with Rove... sorry, I mean with Teflon (having trouble spelling today) , is that when it breaks down it emits toxic chemicals that cause birth defects and cancer [presumably cancer of the attitude], among other problems. Ken Cook, president of the Environmental Working Group, writes, in The New Standard: "Only a ban will satisfy some." "There's no message being sent here except the weakness of the Bush Administration and how it succumbed to ... lobbying. It's pathetic."

    Re: Imagining Bush Without Rove (none / 0) (#18)
    by Edger on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:54 PM EST
    I started out on burgundy But soon hit the harder stuff Everybody said they'd stand behind me When the game got rough But the joke was on me There was nobody even there to call my bluff... --Bush (I mean Dylan)
    I think I need a new keyboard...

    Re: Imagining Bush Without Rove (none / 0) (#19)
    by Edger on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:54 PM EST
    Official White House Communication For Immediate Release Office of the Press Secretary July 18, 2005 - 10:47 A.M. (EST) Letter from Karl Rove to incarcerated free press martyr Judith Miller

    Re: Imagining Bush Without Rove (none / 0) (#20)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:55 PM EST
    Maybe I'll move to Peru.
    How will I know what I'm not supposed to say?
    Who will rock me when I'm scared?
    What's going to happen to ME?
    Baffled Bush, without Pruneface Rove.


    Re: Imagining Bush Without Rove (none / 0) (#21)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:55 PM EST
    Roadapple, reduced to cowpattie.