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The calendar says it's my birthday, so I'm off to do something different, like work out at the gym and go shoe-shopping. Here's a space for you - what's on your mind today?

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  • Re: Wednesday Open Thread (none / 0) (#1)
    by Che's Lounge on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:24 PM EST
    All Libra's are hot. I'm a Scorpio myself. 10/29. Man I used to clean up at Halloween! Happy birthday.

    Re: Wednesday Open Thread (none / 0) (#2)
    by desertswine on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:24 PM EST
    HAPPY DARN BIRTHDAY!!

    Re: Wednesday Open Thread (none / 0) (#3)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:24 PM EST
    HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!! Enjoy the day, take it easy....

    Re: Wednesday Open Thread (none / 0) (#4)
    by Edger on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:24 PM EST
    Thirty five is a very attractive age; London society is full of women who have of their own free choice remained thirty-five for years. ...Oscar Wilde
    ;-) Happy B'Day Jeralyn... Have a great day!

    Re: Wednesday Open Thread (none / 0) (#5)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:24 PM EST
    Happy birthday. By coincidence, mine's tomorrow!

    Re: Wednesday Open Thread (none / 0) (#6)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:24 PM EST
    What?! Shoe shopping! Who do you think you are, Sec of State?? ;-) Enjoy and have a happy and remember: "Come grow old with me The best is yet to be The last of life for which the first was made..." (Actually Browning was fibbing, but the alternative is so bad...)

    Re: Wednesday Open Thread (none / 0) (#7)
    by Andreas on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:24 PM EST
    Have a happy birthday Jeralyn!

    Re: Wednesday Open Thread (none / 0) (#8)
    by Dadler on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:24 PM EST
    This is why I have a little liberal torch burning for the Poker Player from Texas -- because deep in the recesses of that chilly heart is a man who adores Jeralyn (the woman who IS this site). We're wearing the same skin, James. As the Beatles sang on their last platter: "Come together, right now, over J". Also, as per usual, a link to energy freedom. Get off the gasoline habit for good.

    Re: Wednesday Open Thread (none / 0) (#9)
    by Sailor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:24 PM EST
    Happy birthday TL!

    Re: Wednesday Open Thread (none / 0) (#10)
    by kdog on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:24 PM EST
    Yes, a very happy birthday to the hostess with the mostess. I know have to mentally prepare myself for a long, hard, anguished football season with Vinny Testaverde quarterbacking my beloved NY Jets. Ugh, and I thought the state of the union was depressing!

    Re: Wednesday Open Thread (none / 0) (#11)
    by Jlvngstn on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:24 PM EST
    Happy Birthday, and thanks for this website.

    Re: Wednesday Open Thread (none / 0) (#12)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:24 PM EST
    All the best and many happy more. Thanks for all you do. Libby

    Re: Wednesday Open Thread (none / 0) (#13)
    by kdog on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:24 PM EST
    Since our govt. has a knack for declaring "war" on all of our problems, when can I expect to see the start of the "war on corruption and cronyism in govt.".

    Re: Wednesday Open Thread (none / 0) (#14)
    by peacrevol on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:24 PM EST
    Is al Zarqawi really dead? msnbc.com is reporting that he was killed in bombing as reported by a publication in Fallujah. Dont know if it's true or not, but there it is.

    Re: Wednesday Open Thread (none / 0) (#15)
    by Linkmeister on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:25 PM EST
    Another one of those? Yarrgh. Happy Birthday and thanks for all you do here.

    Re: Wednesday Open Thread (none / 0) (#16)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:25 PM EST
    peacrevol - I also read yesterday that we not the No 2 terrorist in Bagdad.

    Re: Wednesday Open Thread (none / 0) (#17)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:25 PM EST
    Meus parabéns, Jeralyn!

    Re: Wednesday Open Thread (none / 0) (#18)
    by jen on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:25 PM EST
    Happy Happy Birthday!

    Re: Wednesday Open Thread (none / 0) (#20)
    by Patriot Daily on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:25 PM EST
    Happy Birthday and best wishes from linda and laura (and my new puppy Kelsi)!!!

    Re: Wednesday Open Thread (none / 0) (#21)
    by peacrevol on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:25 PM EST
    Happy b-day....Now drop and give me one push-up for each year, ooh-rah?

    Re: Wednesday Open Thread (none / 0) (#22)
    by nolo on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:25 PM EST
    Happy Birthday!!

    Re: Wednesday Open Thread (none / 0) (#23)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:25 PM EST
    Happy Birthday and thank you for keeping the conversation going

    Re: Wednesday Open Thread (none / 0) (#24)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:25 PM EST
    Happy birthday! a great example of NY Times lack of bias and well-researched reporting can be found here Title: 'NY Times' Retracts John Roberts Memo Story [Ed. links must be in html format, we fixed this one. Others will be deleted, they skew the site.]

    Re: Wednesday Open Thread (none / 0) (#25)
    by swingvote on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:25 PM EST
    Happy Birthday Jeralyn. I hope it's a good one. And now for something completely different.....I bring to you another case of injustice not unlike Cindy Sheehan's latest escapade in DC. (With a hat tip to OPJ.com)

    Re: Wednesday Open Thread (none / 0) (#26)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:25 PM EST
    Have a happy, JM!

    Re: Wednesday Open Thread (none / 0) (#27)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:25 PM EST
    JustPaul -- probably the only time I have ever laughed at any comment or link on this site -- great job and a great story to juxtapose against Sheehan's antics. GET A PERMIT law breaker

    Re: Wednesday Open Thread (none / 0) (#28)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:25 PM EST
    Happy Birthday... I'm new but wanted to wish you one anyhow :D Hope you find a great pair of boots!

    Re: Wednesday Open Thread (none / 0) (#29)
    by squeaky on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:25 PM EST
    happy b'day Jeralyn!!! glad you were born. many many, many, many, many, more.

    Re: Wednesday Open Thread (none / 0) (#30)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:25 PM EST
    Happy Birthday!

    Re: Wednesday Open Thread (none / 0) (#31)
    by chemoelectric on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:25 PM EST
    Bonan kaj tre feliĉan naskiĝtagon, Jeralyn! Or, to put it in a less Esperantish way, happy birthday!

    Re: Wednesday Open Thread (none / 0) (#32)
    by aw on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:25 PM EST
    Congratulerer med dagen, as we say in Norwegian.

    Re: Wednesday Open Thread (none / 0) (#33)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:25 PM EST
    Like yourself, some years back, this birthday congratulations message was transmitted in a tiny packet, and then suddenly (and joyfully) expanded so it could be seen by people all over the world. Feliz Navidad from your friends in the West.

    Re: Wednesday Open Thread (none / 0) (#34)
    by Kitt on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:25 PM EST
    Adding to your Imelda collection, eh? Have a mellow & happy birthday.

    Re: Wednesday Open Thread (none / 0) (#35)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:25 PM EST
    Happy Birthday!

    Re: Wednesday Open Thread (none / 0) (#36)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:25 PM EST
    happy birthday, jeralyn! say hi to condi for us!

    Re: Wednesday Open Thread (none / 0) (#37)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:25 PM EST
    Hey, kdog, just for fun, did you see the thread about the guy in LA who apparently held his 19 month old toddler up as a shield during a shootout with the cops and ended up getting both his daughter and himself killed? Anyway, it looks as though the guy may have been pretty coked up. It's not been proven yet, afaik, maybe the autopsy will tell for sure, but for the sake of argument let's say he was. Do you still think drug use is a victimless crime?

    Re: Wednesday Open Thread (none / 0) (#38)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:26 PM EST
    SUO- There's one problem with your position. If some drunk kills someone (and that never happens...right?) , do you advocate the complete criminalization of alcohol? It would seem to be a logical conclusion of your line of reasoning. Drug and Alcohol use in moderation is a victimless crime. Excess leads to things like this.

    Re: Wednesday Open Thread (none / 0) (#40)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:26 PM EST
    "...when can I expect to see the start of the "war on corruption and cronyism in govt.". Uhh...never.

    Re: Wednesday Open Thread (none / 0) (#41)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:26 PM EST
    Happy Birthday, TL.

    Re: Wednesday Open Thread (none / 0) (#42)
    by roger on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:26 PM EST
    Happy B-day, and thanks for all the links!

    Re: Wednesday Open Thread (none / 0) (#43)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:26 PM EST
    Wow, that's the most happy birthday wishes I've ever gotten! Thanks to all of you and yes, it was a great day. The best part was stopping in at my doctor's, who told me I look better, healthier and younger than I did 20 years ago. That was a whole lot better than new shoes.

    Re: Wednesday Open Thread (none / 0) (#44)
    by Edger on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:26 PM EST
    Thanks for being you, Jeralyn! (I think I can safely say I speak for more than just myself here...)

    Re: Wednesday Open Thread (none / 0) (#45)
    by Kevin Hayden on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:27 PM EST
    May they be as comfortable as Birkenstocks, but as gorgeous as the wearer. Happy Natal Day, Jeralyn!

    Re: Wednesday Open Thread (none / 0) (#46)
    by kdog on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:27 PM EST
    SUO, see Adept's post, I agree 100%. Drug use is victimless, drug abuse is a different animal and may or may not lead to others being harmed. Notice prohibition did not prevent the lunatic in question (or anybody for that matter) from using drugs. There is no reason to punish me with arrest for the actions of a lunatic. In other news, a local county govt. does something useful for working people. Check it out, I'm shocked! Update, the bill passed 17-1 with bi-partisan support, which means there are enough votes to override a veto.

    Re: Wednesday Open Thread (none / 0) (#47)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:28 PM EST
    Adept, kdog, hold the phone guys, let's keep on topic - the claim that drug use is victimless. From your comment, kdog, it is apparent that you make a distinction between drug use and drug abuse. That sounds a little "it depends on what the definition of 'is' is" to me, since obviously a drug abuser is a drug user. If you insist that there is a distiction between the two, since that distinction is relatively un-obvious to the average joe, maybe you should qualify your declaration to "drug use in moderation is a victimless crime."?

    Re: Wednesday Open Thread (none / 0) (#48)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:28 PM EST
    SUO- If you'll reread my post above, the one kdog agreed with, I believe you will see I've already said as much.
    Drug and Alcohol use in moderation is a victimless crime. Excess leads to things like this.


    Re: Wednesday Open Thread (none / 0) (#49)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:29 PM EST
    Adept, funny, I read your's and kdog's posts and thought carefully about my response and didn't even realize the words I was typing were the same as your's! So I guess we agree that drug use is not a victimless crime, but that moderate drug use is. kdog?

    Re: Wednesday Open Thread (none / 0) (#50)
    by kdog on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:29 PM EST
    Agreed. Drug use in moderation is victimless. I guess in my head the term "drug use" implies moderation. Drug abuse is just that, abuse or over use. I guess where we digress is I believe not even all drug abusers victimize someone. Some do, usually a family member. As to the shooting being discussed, I don't know enough about the guy to say how much of a role the cocaine played. I'd guess he has severe mental problems, as well as a drug problem.

    Re: Wednesday Open Thread (none / 0) (#51)
    by Che's Lounge on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:31 PM EST
    SUO, Conversely I would ask if we should ban all activities that can conceivably result in individuals becoming victims (deaths or injuries resulting from said activities)?

    Re: Wednesday Open Thread (none / 0) (#52)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:32 PM EST
    Sorry guys, had to evacuate because of the fires. Adept, kdog, we agree on the main point. Che, of course not. My only point is the one Adept, kdog and I have been discussing.

    Re: Wednesday Open Thread (none / 0) (#53)
    by kdog on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:32 PM EST
    Stay safe sarc...hope you and yours are ok.

    Re: Wednesday Open Thread (none / 0) (#54)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:32 PM EST
    Thanks kdog, we're all fine, just real tired.