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War on Terror Apparently Over: FBI to Restart Porn Investigations

By Last Night in Little Rock, Section Crime Policy
Posted on Wed Sep 21, 2005 at 10:52:53 AM EST
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by Last Night in Little Rock

As TChris wrote yesterday, apparently believing that the War on Terror is sufficiently won, the FBI is now restarting an emphasis on adult porn investigations as reported in today's Washington Post.

The FBI rank and file thinks it is pointless:

"I guess this means we've won the war on terror," said one exasperated FBI agent, speaking on the condition of anonymity because poking fun at headquarters is not regarded as career-enhancing. "We must not need any more resources for espionage."

Among friends and trusted colleagues, an experienced national security analyst said, "it's a running joke for us."

The true motive: Pandering to the Christian Right:

But Gonzales endorses the rationale of predecessor Meese: that adult pornography is a threat to families and children. Christian conservatives, long skeptical of Gonzales, greeted the pornography initiative with what the Family Research Council called "a growing sense of confidence in our new attorney general."

What a monumental waste of time and energy, but what else can we expect from this Administration?

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    War on Terror Apparently Over: FBI to Restart Porn Investigations | 27 comments (27 topical)
    Re: War on Terror Apparently Over: FBI to Restart (none / 0) (#1)
    by cpinva on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:09 PM EST
    this isn't the first time porn has been used by an administration, in an effort to divert the public's attention from its failings, nixon did it. he commissioned a study, intended to prove that pornography caused sexual deviency. the study was completed, but never released to the public. it showed there was no scientifically provable corrolation between pornography and devient sexual behavior, not what nixon wanted to hear. it was quietly shelved and never seen or heard from again. this "crackdown" will prove a waste of scarce, allocable resources, at the expense of real issues. so, you were expecting something different?

    Re: War on Terror Apparently Over: FBI to Restart (none / 0) (#2)
    by jen on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:09 PM EST
    Does this mean that if the FBI finds my... restraints that they will show me theirs?

    Re: War on Terror Apparently Over: FBI to Restart (none / 0) (#3)
    by kdog on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:09 PM EST
    The govt. should be encouraging more porn production. Nothing gets the Islamic fundies riled up like good old fashioned western porn. Jenna Jameson should get a medal of freedom, not a summons.

    Re: War on Terror Apparently Over: FBI to Restart (none / 0) (#4)
    by desertswine on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:09 PM EST
    Maybe they think they'll find bin Laden under a stack of Penthouses. I think there are more important things for them to do. I guess this will keep them busy, out of the way, and impotent.

    Re: War on Terror Apparently Over: FBI to Restart (none / 0) (#5)
    by Che's Lounge on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:09 PM EST
    This is Gonzalez's number one priority, amazing as it may seem. So we should assume by this that the WOT is under control? cpinva, Nixon also commissioned a similar report on marajuana. Once he got the synopsis, he never bothered to read the report. Guess why.

    Re: War on Terror Apparently Over: FBI to Restart (none / 0) (#6)
    by Che's Lounge on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:09 PM EST
    One of several Google links to this is here.

    Re: War on Terror Apparently Over: FBI to Restart (none / 0) (#7)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:09 PM EST
    Giving their gay hooker a press pass was a good start at getting the pornos where it hurts so good. "You have a purdy mouth. Prettier than my Scottie." -- GWB, to Canadian press secretary

    Re: War on Terror Apparently Over: FBI to Restart (none / 0) (#8)
    by Johnny on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:09 PM EST
    The wrong wingers have always wanted to shutdown the pornography in this country-and a few left wringers as well. Charley-if the wrong wingers did not have a history of wanting to destroy all porn mongers, I would almost believe your statement.. As it stands, it is just another attempt for the regressive party to try and control what happens in my bedroom. Under guise of protecting a certain segmen of the population of course...

    Re: War on Terror Apparently Over: FBI to Restart (none / 0) (#9)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:09 PM EST
    Oh cool, all the terrorists are dead, so now we can go back to business as usual; worrying about other people's genitals.

    Re: War on Terror Apparently Over: FBI to Restart (none / 0) (#10)
    by squeaky on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:09 PM EST
    char-
    Watching porn may not be a crime
    yet
    but the producers and purveyors are often connected to organized crime-should it be ignored?
    So if the wingnuts get their way (focus on the family) both the FBI and organized crime will soon be mighty busy. The adults who engage in porn will find out what real live S&M is about when they go to federal prison where bizarre sex acts are encouraged and condoned. Didn't you once say something like 'the criminals should have to worry about jail conditions, we needn't make it like summer camp otherwise what would stop them from wanting to be criminals.'

    Re: War on Terror Apparently Over: FBI to Restart (none / 0) (#11)
    by Sailor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:09 PM EST
    mr charley apparently never actually reads a post. 1) Nothing illegal about porn for consenting adults. only jesusland wackjobs care what someone else wackjobs to. 2) They took agents OFF of child porn to work on this. 3) Only a kool-aid drinker would equate people losing their homes and medical and retirement benefits due to whitecollar crimes with stroke media. charlie, charlie, charlie, you never could have been a contender.

    Re: War on Terror Apparently Over: FBI to Restart (none / 0) (#12)
    by roy on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:09 PM EST
    This really should be on the Feds' cost-cutting list, not the re-emphasizing list.

    Re: War on Terror Apparently Over: FBI to Restart (none / 0) (#13)
    by Sailor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:09 PM EST
    I likes my women like I likes my fbi; showing voluntary restraint;-)

    Re: War on Terror Apparently Over: FBI to Restart (none / 0) (#14)
    by jen on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:10 PM EST
    Hey sailor, buy me a coffee?

    Re: War on Terror Apparently Over: FBI to Restart (none / 0) (#15)
    by Sailor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:10 PM EST
    Sure Jen. BTW, are you new around here? I don't recall seeing many posts of yours before. If you have any questions there's nothing like having a sailor show you the ropes;-) ... I know, I know, that's knot funny.

    Re: War on Terror Apparently Over: FBI to Restart (none / 0) (#16)
    by jen on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:10 PM EST
    Pretty new. I post now and again.

    Re: War on Terror Apparently Over: FBI to Restart (none / 0) (#18)
    by Che's Lounge on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:10 PM EST
    Those Navy guys get all the babes.

    Re: War on Terror Apparently Over: FBI to Restart (none / 0) (#19)
    by cpinva on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:10 PM EST
    Nixon also commissioned a similar report on marajuana. Once he got the synopsis, he never bothered to read the report. Guess why.
    it failed to show, scientifically, a connection between pot use and the use of harder, addictive, narcotics. it said, in essence, that there was as much of a connection to be drawn between the consumption of snickers bars leading to the use of other, addictive drugs, as to pot leading to the same thing. not what nixon, or the mars company, wanted to hear. this, however, hasn't stopped either the DEA, the Drug Czar and successive republican administrations, from making that same, not scientifically valid, claim.
    Should it eliminate investigation of environmental crimes b/c of terrorism? how about bankruptcy fraud?
    no, it should not. in fact, it shouldn't be diverting scarce, allocable resources from these activities, to investigate who's giving a bj to whom, on film.
    Watching porn may not be a crime but the producers and purveyors are often connected to organized crime-should it be ignored?
    a statement that may well have been true, 40 years ago, before the introduction of cheap, retail video cameras, and the internet. these made any average joe a potential producer/director/star. the wide dispersion of the industry makes it pretty nearly impossible for any organized crime group to "control" it, they don't have the manpower to "make an offer that can't be refused" to the hundreds of thousands of people involved, worldwide. not too mention, if they're going after organized criminal groups, they're going to have to start with companies such as viacom and universal pictures, both of whom make substantial profits off the production, distribution and marketing of pornography, through operating subsidiaries. i suspect that won't go over real big with bush and the republicans, who have many large contributors in both of those companies.

    Re: War on Terror Apparently Over: FBI to Restart (none / 0) (#20)
    by Ernesto Del Mundo on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:10 PM EST
    Speaking of Nixon...it was cool how he recruited Elvis to buy up all the dope so the kids wouldn't get it. I believe Bush masterminded the same operation with Rush Limbaugh. These guys are my heroes.

    Re: War on Terror Apparently Over: FBI to Restart (none / 0) (#21)
    by Che's Lounge on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:12 PM EST
    cpinva, Moderate Dems have also enabled the dysfuntional WOD. The population in general is either too stupid or too scared to face the issue and take bold steps. The song remains the same.

    Re: War on Terror Apparently Over: FBI to Restart (none / 0) (#22)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:12 PM EST
    Again, Charley with the CANARD that Muslim terrorists are our greatest problem. SIXTY WHITE SUPREMACIST TERROR PLOTS IN THE LAST TEN YEARS. The FBI should be investigating terror plots, as they have been under real governments. Under Bush, they are working at pornography and weed convictions -- which is just like putting Brownie in charge. Who will take the blame for the next Bush screwup? Charley already knows who to blame, and it isn't any more accurate than the idiot Bush when he opens HIS mouth.

    Re: War on Terror Apparently Over: FBI to Restart (none / 0) (#23)
    by squeaky on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:12 PM EST
    charley the chicken hawk suggets that there are people more ignorant then he. HA HA HA. Time to sign up for your war and stop clucking, what a hypocrite, not a noble bone in your body.

    Re: War on Terror Apparently Over: FBI to Restart (none / 0) (#24)
    by squeaky on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:13 PM EST
    charley the chicken hawk coward evades the question with a nonsensical diversion. Why are you not willing to fight for your cause? The 101st Fighting Keyboardists are already oversubscribed. You help is sorely needed in Iraq and your efforts here are a waste of time. It is cheap and easy to spew unoriginal wingnut rhetoric from the sidelines encouraging others to fight for your beliefs. You add nothing to the dialogue here, we can tune into Limbaugh for something a bit more fresh than your regurgitation if we feel the need, go off and fight like a substantial person whose words are backed up with action. Go where you are needed, and swiftly.

    Re: War on Terror Apparently Over: FBI to Restart (none / 0) (#25)
    by Dadler on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:13 PM EST
    Porn and organized crime??? Oh lord, what vaccuum has Charley been living in. The internet and video have turned porn into a business both corporate AND mom & pop. I had a friend of a friend who made a small fortune with a camera in he and his wife's bedroom, so people could pay to watch them f*ck. Porn has got to be one of the most egalitarian businesses going these days. And the women STILL make more than the men. Porn Valley in Van Nuys may produce a lot of skin flicks, but fifty times more is produced by internet dweebs with a camera and a modem.

    Re: War on Terror Apparently Over: FBI to Restart (none / 0) (#26)
    by squeaky on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:14 PM EST
    Is the fbi going to investigate the iraq military pornsite. A popular porn site Credit cards were blocked when female soldiers started to appear in the nude on the site, the Pentagon blocked access to the site from military computers in the field, according to the New York Post.so they offered free pass to the site if a soldier would send in some pictures. The site is NowThatsF*ckedUp.com (NTFU).
    Cobban was horrified by the gory photos, but tried to make sense of the motivation of people who posted them -- and tried hard to grasp the idea of a serious discussion of war on a porn site. She told me that taking and posting "trophy" photos of dead Iraqis was a gross show of disrespect and a violation of the Geneva Conventions. But she put the blame on the direction of military leadership. While it was difficult for me to ascertain the motivation for people who were posting gory photos to NTFU, I did talk to Steven Most, a psychology postdoctoral fellow at Yale University who has studied the effects of violent and sexual images. He helped explain what these horribly violent images had in common with the nude photographs of women.
    Re: War on Terror Apparently Over: FBI to Restart (none / 0) (#27)
    by Ernesto Del Mundo on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:14 PM EST
    Porn has got to be one of the most egalitarian businesses going these days.
    I think you just nailed the reason why, and more importantly how, Alberto is going after it. The "mom and pop" operations are gonna get shut down so they don't interfere with the big profiteers of the industry that have probably bought favor with Bush like the big profiteers of every other industry have.

    Re: War on Terror Apparently Over: FBI to Restart (none / 0) (#28)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:04:14 PM EST
    Posted by charley: "don't muslim terror plots count?" The FBI should be investigating terror plots Under Bush, they are working at pornography and weed convictions because Bush doesn't give a hot damn about national security.

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