Sorry, that should read that I am solid RINO

Me: This is such a clean war, ya know. You: NO such thing never has never will be.

Not the same. The Operation name is merely an identifier as to where he was killed and what he was engaged in. It neither endorses or opposes the war.

The list goes on. Yeah, Miller's a true Democrat if you're talking about 1849. Rebuttal?

Why not just admit what everyone here knows: that the post was built on a bad premise, and the ludicrousness of the premise was thrown into stark reality by the misidentification of Phelps?

The premise had to have been that this guy was a Repub Conservative Right Winger.

It is tempting to see in all this a vast right-wing conspiracy, à la Hillary Clinton. Levine would take exception to that charge. "This isn’t a conspiracy, but a strategy," she says. "The right is using people’s legitimate anxieties around sexuality to fuel their own larger goals.

More recently, Phelps was the subject of nationwide controversy when his family proposed, in a referendum, the removal of workplace protection for homosexuals in Topeka. The measure was defeated, 53 percent to 47 percent.

All of us, hetero- and homosexual, should recognize that this is a primary issue in the so-called "culture wars" in America. This is where the Relgious Right is focusing a significant percentage of its attention because, if they lose on this, they may never again have the chance to impose their vision upon our society by peaceful means. They really need to win on this in order to maintain any degree of status and importance in American political life.

t r u t h o u t | One Mother's Stand By Scott Galindez Monday 29 August 2005 8:48 PM A beautiful moment just happened at Camp Casey I. There was a candle light vigil honoring troops who have died in Iraq. The counter protesters came across the street and joined the vigilers at Camp Casey, They shared the flag and prayed together for the families on both sides who have lost loved ones in the war. They are now singing and holding candles together. This is a testament to the power of this movement."

Mother takes son's name off memorial SANTA BARBARA A mother persuaded organizers of an anti-war memorial to remove her son's name from a weekly beach display of crosses representing U.S. troops killed in Iraq. Debbie Argel Bastian said she didn't believe the cross was a tribute and considered it an insult to her son, 28-year-old Air Force Capt. Derek Argel, who was killed Memorial Day in a plane crash. The cross with his name was among more than 1,800 erected in the sand each weekend here in a memorial dubbed Arlington West. "Their Web page says 'Wage Peace," said Bastian, of Lompoc. "I think they're trying to convey victims of war. Derek is not a victim of this war. He is a grown man, well-trained. He knew what he was doing. He would not want his name associated with an anti-war movement.' Memorial organizers Santa Barbara Veterans for Peace initially resisted requests from Bastian and Argel's widow Wendy that they remove the name of the special tactics officer. They relented this week after hearing from Bastian, but urged her to visit the display and reconsider

Code Pink is and has been since early this year holding vigil at Walter Reed to highlight how our wounded are brought in 'under the cover of night.' This is such a clean war, ya know

This is such a clean war, ya know.

Nothing except a battle lost can be half as melancholy as a battle won.

You're referencing two different happenings - one in Santa Barbara & the other in Crawford.

BASTIAN: Because our family had no choice in the matter. My son, Derrick, fully believed that everyone has the right to protest and express their opinion. But our family very much objects to the fact that, you know, after my son's death, that his name be used in this way. He would never have participated in any sort of an antiwar protest. And it's our understanding that there is a name on the cross -- on a cross in Crawford, Texas, as well. It came up on a Web site. My son was very much in favor of President Bush and the Bush administration, and had great respect for him as commander-in-chief. Derrick was a special escort for Mrs. Bush when she made her trip to Iraq and Afghanistan, and for the president and for the U.S. ambassador to Iraq. And it's just inappropriate not to ask the families.