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Saddam Could Be Executed After First Trial

By Jeralyn, Section War In Iraq
Posted on Thu Aug 11, 2005 at 11:16:55 PM EST
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A source close to the offical proceedings involving Saddam Hussein's trial says he could be executed after the first trial.

Saddam's daughter is running the defense. Now she says his defense lawyer may boycott the trial. Does she think they would hesitate a nanosecond to try him without a lawyer? Sounds like the fastest way to the execution chamber to me.

Lawyers should be running Saddam's defense, not his daughter.

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    Saddam Could Be Executed After First Trial | 23 comments (23 topical)
    Re: Saddam Could Be Executed After First Trial (none / 0) (#1)
    by Andreas on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:02:13 PM EST
    This is not a fair trial. It is run by the US government. It is run by the same criminals who organised the war on Iraq and who also ensured that the terror attack on the WTC could take place.

    Re: Saddam Could Be Executed After First Trial (none / 0) (#2)
    by Johnny on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:02:13 PM EST
    Who really cares? The outcome has been pre-determined since the chimp-in-chief took orifice-oops I mean office. If by a wild miracle, the Iraqi courts acquit him, Bush will send 40,000 more soldiers and kil a bunch more people in retaliation. this is how it works.

    Re: Saddam Could Be Executed After First Trial (none / 0) (#3)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:02:13 PM EST
    (Editorial comment: this typekey thing is annoying!) It's kind of interesting that they are having trouble finding a lawyer. It sorta makes me think that the violence we hear about (Sunni on Shia. Unless I have that backwards.) must be going the other way but we're just not getting it. -C PS - If Hitler'd been caught alive wonder what Johnny, Andreas, and the rest of the crowd would have had to say?

    Re: Saddam Could Be Executed After First Trial (none / 0) (#4)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:02:13 PM EST
    (Editorial comment: this typekey thing is annoying!) It's kind of interesting that they are having trouble finding a lawyer. It sorta makes me think that the violence we hear about (Sunni on Shia. Unless I have that backwards.) must be going the other way but we're just not getting it. -C PS - If Hitler'd been caught alive wonder what Johnny, Andreas, and the rest of the crowd would have had to say?

    Re: Saddam Could Be Executed After First Trial (none / 0) (#5)
    by peacrevol on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:02:13 PM EST
    -cliff,
    It's kind of interesting that they are having trouble finding a lawyer.
    Would you defend Saddam Hussein? If he gets acquitted then you're good lawyer, but it's partly your fault that this guy got away and only God knows what might happen after that. If he gets convicted, then to his supporters, you're a bum and perhaps a target. I dont know much about the judicial system but it seems like a lose lose situation to me.

    Re: Saddam Could Be Executed After First Trial (none / 0) (#6)
    by Kitt on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:02:13 PM EST
    I don't think it's about finding attorneys...according to
    "His daughter, Raghad, (who) has been running his defense team from Jordan, where she fled after her father's fall. Earlier this week, she fired the entire team except for one Iraqi lawyer, Khalil Dulaimi, because the team of more than 1,500 Arab and Western lawyers only sought fame in the high-profile case".
    And Andreas....yes, we know (said wearily). This entire fiasco is a sham. Of course we knew he had 'WMDs' (at one point) because we supplied them to him. However as TalkLeft pointed out -
    "Does she think they would hesitate a nanosecond to try him without a lawyer? Sounds like the fastest way to the execution chamber to me"
    Re: Saddam Could Be Executed After First Trial (none / 0) (#7)
    by Ereshkigal on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:02:13 PM EST
    If I were Saddam-- or his daughter-- and certain of execution (a reasonable conclusion), I would do whatever I could to further Saddam's legacy as a martyr. What better way to manipulate a flawed system of justice than to exploit all "unfairness" opportunities.

    Re: Saddam Could Be Executed After First Trial (none / 0) (#8)
    by Jim Strain on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:02:13 PM EST
    It wouldn't matter if Sadaam were represented by the firm of Mohammed, Moses and Christ LLP; he's a dead man.

    Re: Saddam Could Be Executed After First Trial (none / 0) (#9)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:02:13 PM EST
    If I were Saddam-- or his daughter-- and certain of execution (a reasonable conclusion), I would do whatever I could to further Saddam's legacy as a martyr. What better way to manipulate a flawed system of justice than to exploit all "unfairness" opportunities.
    Yeah to some extent participating in the trial simply legitimizes a forum that really only exists to soothe the conscience of the West. We're going to kill Saddam -- that much is already clear. Why should he or his daughter dignify the farce of a show trial, when the outcome is already foreordained?

    Re: Saddam Could Be Executed After First Trial (none / 0) (#10)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:02:14 PM EST
    If she's resigned to his death, then you are right. I thought she was still fighting and under the impression that she could save him. If she knows there's no hope then yes, why not try to martyr him.

    Re: Saddam Could Be Executed After First Trial (none / 0) (#11)
    by peacrevol on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:02:14 PM EST
    It wouldn't matter if Sadaam were represented by the firm of Mohammed, Moses and Christ LLP; he's a dead man.
    Mohammed, Moses, and Christ hahaha. Nice

    Re: Saddam Could Be Executed After First Trial (none / 0) (#12)
    by peacrevol on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:02:14 PM EST
    maybe they'll hang him by his beard. does he still have the "i've been hiding in a hole for 8 months" beard?

    Re: Saddam Could Be Executed After First Trial (none / 0) (#13)
    by squeaky on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:02:14 PM EST
    Saddam is cloaked with such secrecy it is impossible to believe anything about the trial, or his capture for that matter. His Wife, who we have not heard much from, said that it was not Saddam that they captured when she saw him in April '04. Raghad her sister Rana and their husbands fled to Jordan in '95. When they came back in '96 both husbands were executed and the sisters lived with the mom who seemed to have been estranged from Saddam. Raghad is now living an opulent life in Jordan. There is no way to rationally discuss the trial at this point because there is zero transparancy, and no international observers. Might as well be a fox soap.

    Re: Saddam Could Be Executed After First Trial (none / 0) (#14)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:02:14 PM EST
    My concern is that this man could know a lot of information, much of it damaging to our country's current leadership. Much of it of such a nature that our leadership would not want it made public. Then we hear talk of him being executed after the first trial. Sounds like a convienient and efficient way to shut him up and make sure certain information is buried with him.

    Re: Saddam Could Be Executed After First Trial (none / 0) (#15)
    by Andreas on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:02:14 PM EST
    Cliff asked: "If Hitler'd been caught alive wonder what Johnny, Andreas, and the rest of the crowd would have had to say?" Adolf Hitler was one of those who organised a war of aggression. A number (unfortunately rather small) of other people who organised that war have been legitimately convicted and punished during the Nuremberg war crimes tribunals. George W. Bush is one of those who organised the war of aggression on Iraq. He needs to be put on trial as a war criminal. (Bush obviously is not the only one. In addition to other members of the US government and Tony Blair the leaders of the Democratic Party also helped to organise that war.) The WSWS supports that demand.

    Re: Saddam Could Be Executed After First Trial (none / 0) (#16)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:02:14 PM EST
    With his execution all of his ties to Rummy,the Carlyle Group, and our biological weapons program will be swept under the rug, so things couldn't work out any better for the Shrubites.

    Re: Saddam Could Be Executed After First Trial (none / 0) (#17)
    by John Mann on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:02:15 PM EST
    If she knows there's no hope then yes, why not try to martyr him.
    I doubt Saddam is very good martyr material these days. He seems to be pretty much forgotten and actually looks kind of pathetic when we do get a chance to see him on tv. As despots go, he's definitely past his prime. Then again, it doesn't much matter anyway - the Resistance in Iraq doesn't need any help from Saddam, what with George Bush leading its recruitment efforts.

    Re: Saddam Could Be Executed After First Trial (none / 0) (#18)
    by squeaky on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:02:15 PM EST
    That is, if he is Saddam.

    Re: Saddam Could Be Executed After First Trial (none / 0) (#19)
    by desertswine on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:02:15 PM EST
    Yes, it could be one of the many doubles he was supposed to have had.

    Re: Saddam Could Be Executed After First Trial (none / 0) (#20)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:02:16 PM EST
    A source close to the offical proceedings involving Saddam Hussein's trial says he could be executed after the first trial.
    No big loss there, although I would like to hear him spill the beans about how he's been used by two successive Bush regimes for their own political and financial gain first....

    Re: Saddam Could Be Executed After First Trial (none / 0) (#21)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:02:16 PM EST
    andreas- Yes, yes, we know, bush=hitler, iraq=vietnam=(pick your conflict). How boring. I guess that all plays well with the starbuckian history-lite crowd (hey did you read what's on this bottlecap!) but I'm kind of curious about if you really think that way when you're relaxing in the bath? -C

    Re: Saddam Could Be Executed After First Trial (none / 0) (#22)
    by Che's Lounge on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:02:16 PM EST
    Cliff, If you're bored, then leave.

    Re: Saddam Could Be Executed After First Trial (none / 0) (#23)
    by Johnny on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:02:17 PM EST
    Cliff Godwined this thread rather quickly. Like most wrong wingers I know, he specializes in hypothetical situations. What if Hitler had been blah blah blah... All I said Cliff, is thatthe outcome was predetermined and that Bushco will see to it that it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy. I said nothing at all if he deserves it or not. It is your typical wrong wing bluster brain that gave you that idea. As far as history goes, depending on what country (or even which US state "regarding evolution"), you get vastly different versions of what really happened. For example. In high school history, I read how Native Americans would mutilate American soldiers, and that it was wrong and savage to do so. I read little to nothing about Vietnam, and certainly nothing about the body mutilation going on there by American GI's (and don't mess yourself explaining that one away, my uncle is stillas proud as can be about his collection of ears, which he would show me at a young age, raging about them g**ks. He votes republican and really hates brown people. Just the facts Jack.), or nothing about what Agent Orange really was... As far as Saddam goes, like I said-Who cares? He's out. He will never again be in power. He will never again commission top scientists to design long range WMD on the back of a bar napkin, he will never again have a photo-op with Rumsfeld, he will never again use American chemicals to wage warfare on a minority in his country. Like I said-who cares?

    Saddam Could Be Executed After First Trial | 23 comments (23 topical)