Midnight Plame Gate Roundup

  • Former CIA Agent Larry Johnson, guest posting at TPM Cafe explains again just how Valerie Plame was an undercover agent and the damage from leaking her identity. I say again because I've mentioned his and fellow former Agent Larry Marcinkowski's testimony to the Senate Democractic Policy Committee so many times. (Hearing Transcript here(pdf))
  • Armando at Daily Kos on Valerie Plame's covert status. He finds this Knights-Ridder article:

The CIA declined to discuss Plame's intelligence work, but an agency official disputed suggestions that she was a mere analyst whose public exposure would have little consequence. "If she was not undercover, we would have no reason to file a criminal referral," the CIA official said, insisting on anonymity because of the sensitivity of the investigation.

  • Arianna on why Karl Rove should be fired.
  • Atrios brings Judith Miller back into the equation.
  • David Corn brings Ken Mehlman into the stonewalling mix.
  • Digby wonders why Richard Luskin, Karl Rove's lawyer, would criticize Matt Cooper the day before his grand jury testimony.

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    Re: Midnight Plame Gate Roundup (none / 0) (#1)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:09 PM EST
    Yet, until Robert Novak betrayed her, she was still undercover, and the company that was her front was still a secret to the world. When Novak outed Valerie he also compromised her company and every individual overseas who had been in contact with that company and with her.

    For the first time, a group of partisan political operatives publicly identified a CIA NOC.

    Larry johnson

    I can imagine the ridiculous, outrageous right-wing spin coming at this one already. It will be as pathetic as always. But it can never change the fact that this whitehouse, and all it's cronies, are the least patriotic group of people who have ever resided there.

    Re: Midnight Plame Gate Roundup (none / 0) (#2)
    by roger on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:09 PM EST
    Bush I fired Rove from his re-election campaign for leaks made to Novak. Coincidence?

    Re: Midnight Plame Gate Roundup (none / 0) (#3)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:09 PM EST
    Here's an interesting story on Rove by James Moore: The Knower of All-Knowing Knowledge: Karl Rove [text deleted. Please don't reprint the text of articles or other commenters comments at length. This space is for comments only - bandwidth is expensive.]

    Re: Midnight Plame Gate Roundup (none / 0) (#4)
    by ppjakajim on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:09 PM EST
    et al
    In fact, the myth that the Intelligence Identities Protection Act was violated in the Plame case began to unravel in October 2003, when New York Times scribe Nicholas Kristof revealed that she abandoned her covert role a full nine years before the Novak column. "The C.I.A. suspected that Aldrich Ames had given [Plame's] name [along with those of other spies] to the Russians before his espionage arrest in 1994," reported Kristof. "So her undercover security was undermined at that time, and she was brought back to Washington for safety reasons." Kristof concluded: "All in all, I think the Democrats are engaging in hyperbole when they describe the White House as having put [Plame's] life in danger and destroyed her career; her days skulking along the back alleys of cities like Beirut and Algiers were already mostly over."
    Link As I said, she was as covert as the Washington Monument.

    Re: Midnight Plame Gate Roundup (none / 0) (#5)
    by nolo on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:09 PM EST
    ppj, you really ought to read the Larry Johnson post at TPMCafe.

    Re: Midnight Plame Gate Roundup (none / 0) (#6)
    by Jlvngstn on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:09 PM EST
    Sept. 29, 2003 Q: You said this morning, quote, "The president knows that Karl Rove wasn't involved." How does he know that? A: Well, I've made it very clear that it was a ridiculous suggestion in the first place. ... I've said that it's not true. ... And I have spoken with Karl Rove. Q: It doesn't take much for the president to ask a senior official working for him, to just lay the question out for a few people and end this controversy today. A: Do you have specific information to bring to our attention? ... Are we supposed to chase down every anonymous report in the newspaper? We'd spend all our time doing that." Q: When you talked to Mr. Rove, did you discuss, "Did you ever have this information?" A: I've made it very clear, he was not involved, that there's no truth to the suggestion that he was. Oct. 7, 2003 Q: You have said that you personally went to Scooter Libby (Vice President Dick Cheney's chief of staff), Karl Rove and Elliott Abrams (National Security Council official) to ask them if they were the leakers. Is that what happened? Why did you do that? And can you describe the conversations you had with them? What was the question you asked? A: Unfortunately, in Washington, D.C., at a time like this there are a lot of rumors and innuendo. There are unsubstantiated accusations that are made. And that's exactly what happened in the case of these three individuals. They are good individuals. They are important members of our White House team. And that's why I spoke with them, so that I could come back to you and say that they were not involved. I had no doubt with that in the beginning, but I like to check my information to make sure it's accurate before I report back to you, and that's exactly what I did. Oct. 10, 2003 Q: Earlier this week you told us that neither Karl Rove, Elliot Abrams nor Lewis Libby disclosed any classified information with regard to the leak. I wondered if you could tell us more specifically whether any of them told any reporter that Valerie Plame worked for the CIA? A: I spoke with those individuals, as I pointed out, and those individuals assured me they were not involved in this. And that's where it stands. Q: So none of them told any reporter that Valerie Plame worked for the CIA? A: They assured me that they were not involved in this. Q: They were not involved in what? A: The leaking of classified information.

    Re: Midnight Plame Gate Roundup (none / 0) (#7)
    by Jlvngstn on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:09 PM EST
    Previous RNC Chairman Ed Gillespie on MSNBC's Hardball, Sept. 30th, 2003: CHRIS MATTHEWS: Don't you think it's more serious than Watergate, when you think about it? RNC CHAIRMAN ED GILLESPIE: I think if the allegation is true, to reveal the identity of an undercover CIA operative -- it's abhorrent, and it should be a crime, and it is a crime. CHRIS MATTHEWS: It'd be worse than Watergate, wouldn't it? GILLESPIE: It's -- Yeah, I suppose in terms of the real world implications of it. It's not just politics.