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Right Wing Group Urges No Consensus Judge

A radical right religious group, American Center for Law and Justice (ACLJ) sent out this e-mail today asking people to sign a petition opposing a consensus candidate:

...it is for moments like this that the ACLJ exists ... to help you make your voice heard - opposing the views of left-wing organizations like the ACLU and People For the American Way. To protect men and women of faith in America. To present your views in a manner that will have a lasting impact for you and your family.

So today, we invite you to join us in our nationwide campaign to encourage President Bush as he makes this most important decision in the days to come ... and to ask him to stand his ground ... by signing our Petition to the President for NO CONSENSUS.

He has promised a strong, conservative candidate.... Our President must stand strong against the political maneuvering of activist groups like People For the American Way, the ACLU, and other organizations. He must reject the call for a "consensus" candidate.

...In this case, "consensus" would mean compromise. And we cannot stand for that! So today, join the ACLJ as we call on our President to stand firm against the liberal onslaught as he chooses a replacement for Justice Sandra Day O'Connor. Click here right now to add your name to our Petition to the President for NO CONSENSUS.

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    Re: Right Wing Group Urges No Consensus Judge (none / 0) (#1)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:08 PM EST
    if consensus means agree with the left, why shouldn't they oppose that? try winning an election once in a while to show how acceptable your ideas are.

    Re: Right Wing Group Urges No Consensus Judge (none / 0) (#2)
    by Patrick on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:08 PM EST
    Ed, Exactly, I could choose who to support based solely on who this site opposes.

    Re: Right Wing Group Urges No Consensus Judge (none / 0) (#3)
    by theologicus on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:08 PM EST
    This is unfortunately a well-funded and influential organization of the Religious Right. Their director, Jay Sekulow, has a daily radio program (like Dobson), and also a weekly (I think) TV show. This news seems to be a harbinger of things to come.

    Re: Right Wing Group Urges No Consensus Judge (none / 0) (#4)
    by kdog on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:08 PM EST
    I take consensus to mean compromise, is that so terrible? Is moderation a dirty word these days? It seems it is to these anti-compromise yo-yo's. Granted, Bush won...but 48% or so of the electorate opposed him. Is that worth nothing?

    Re: Right Wing Group Urges No Consensus Judge (none / 0) (#5)
    by Patrick on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:08 PM EST
    Kdog, No it's not so terrible, until you look at what the other side wants you to compromise. Left or right it doesn't matter at the extremes.

    Consider two possible positions: a) whoever the Democrats propose, I'm against; or b) I'm willing to hear what the other side has to say and consider their opinion. Now, which position gives you the most control over who is named to the bench?

    Re: Right Wing Group Urges No Consensus Judge (none / 0) (#7)
    by swingvote on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:08 PM EST
    I'm not a fan of this, or any overtly religious, group, but how is what they are saying any different than what Charles Schumer has been saying for the past four years, albeit with a conservative rather than liberal twist? The radical left has made it a standard practice to demonize anyone they oppose in the worst possible terms, and to flat out oppose nominees, no questions asked, no compromise acceptable, who they felt were not sufficiently of the "main stream" (with Ted Kennedy and Ralph Neas getting to define that term). Was it not inevitable that the right would spawn such a group as well? It seems to me that what we have here is an opportunity; an opportunity to throw off the shackles of those who claim to represent us, even though we rarely agree with how far they wish to take something, and to speak for ourselves. If you happen to agree with the Michael Moore's of the world, good for you, Michael's got you covered; but don't make the mistake of believing him when he tells you that everyone else agrees with him as well. One can be anti-Bush without being pro-Reid, and the middle of the road has a lot more room in it than does either wing.

    Re: Right Wing Group Urges No Consensus Judge (none / 0) (#8)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:08 PM EST
    Nice to see just how much the right is willing to compromise... Rightwingers: in the future, don't ever ever ever give leftwingers sh*t about not compromising!!! We're all ready to put a moderate, get that, a moderate, not even a leftist, like Prado in office, but you guys don't want to compromise even a tiny little bit? Then screw off and never bother us again with your whining about how unfair it all is.

    Re: Right Wing Group Urges No Consensus Judge (none / 0) (#9)
    by wishful on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:09 PM EST
    "NO CONSENSUS" That's the demand of the "religious Christian" wingers. Does everyone know that it is no longer even remotely possible for Bushco to use the word "bipartisan" in addressing their (bogus) aspirations for how our Congress should approach issues of national import? Consensus is what democracies use to move forward in their own best interests. Consensus does NOT mean compromise. Consensus in this case means Bush putting forward a candidate that he "likes", with the understanding that many of the minority party will recognize him/her as an asset to the nation though not to the Democratic Party. The selection by definition will be too conservative for most Democrats, but they know they are in the minority, and will respond accordingly with dignity and deference. I cannot believe that there is not a wealth of such candidates available to Bush. HOWEVER, if Bush selects a candidate who is clearly repugnant to most of the Democratic Party, then I strongly question his allegiance to the United States of America.

    Re: Right Wing Group Urges No Consensus Judge (none / 0) (#10)
    by Che's Lounge on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:09 PM EST
    Somebody tell me again just who the extremists are in this country? The radical left has made it a standard practice to demonize anyone they oppose in the worst possible terms, Can I submit this this as the year's most hypocritical comment on this site so far?

    Re: Right Wing Group Urges No Consensus Judge (none / 0) (#11)
    by swingvote on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:01:10 PM EST
    "Can I submit this this as the year's most hypocritical comment on this site so far?: That depends Che. Are you taking issue with the statement (in which case you haven't been paying much attention to MoveOn.org or PFAW, have you?) or are you simply throwing mud at someone who doesn't rise to your own personal level of hypocrisy? And before you get your knickers in a twist yet again, you might consider that I didn't say the radical left invented the tactic (although many would suggest that they did so in regard to Robert Bork); I merely said that they had made it their standard operating procedure. Do you deny this, or do you simply deny the existence of the radical left from your redoubt on the far left fringe?