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Nuclear Option Time Again?

By Jeralyn, Section Judiciary
Posted on Mon Jul 04, 2005 at 09:55:46 AM EST
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I hated the judicial compromise of the Senate 14 and wrote many times it would just postpone the explosion until a later day. Armando at Daily Kos says that day is upon us.

So where are we? Right back where we started. The Nuclear Option. Does Frist have 51 votes? But this time the whole country will be watching. This time we have a standard to measure against - Justice O'Connor.

Will the Republican Party, under the glaring lights of a SCOTUS fight, fully reveal itself as the Party of Dobson, as it did during Schiavo? Do they have a choice? Frankly, it is the Republican Party that is in a bind right now - piss off Dobson or piss off the country. Right now I am betting on them pissing off the country.

And Dems have 48 votes against the nuclear option. Can we get 3 more?

Update: Digby has some new thoughts on the 14 who compromised us.

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    Nuclear Option Time Again? | 6 comments (6 topical)
    Re: Nuclear Option Time Again? (none / 0) (#1)
    by Aaron on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:00:50 PM EST
    It seems likely that Bush will nominate someone who is totally unacceptable to sit on the Supreme Court, and under those circumstances the filibuster in all its forms is sure to fall. This will be just the beginning of a number of House and Senate rules which will be altered or obliterated completely with the intent of maintaining the Republican majority and control of government in perpetuity. All hail the new American Empire!

    Re: Nuclear Option Time Again? (none / 0) (#2)
    by ras on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:00:50 PM EST
    Thru their confirmations, Owen, Pryor & Brown have become the standard by which others will now be measured: i.e. according to bipartisan agreement, they are most assuredly not extreme, and therefore have become the new definition of “moderate.”

    Re: Nuclear Option Time Again? (none / 0) (#3)
    by ras on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:00:50 PM EST
    Aaron, You're kinda the melodramatic sort, ain't you? Remember: you can't just hold the votes you know you'll win, as the Senate Dems would prefer. You gotta hold 'em all. Right now, it's the Dems who oppose the democratic principle, the R's who support it. All hail the Reality Check!

    Re: Nuclear Option Time Again? (none / 0) (#4)
    by scarshapedstar on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:00:50 PM EST
    And just what is the "democratic principle", ras? Tyranny of the bare majority? If 51 people say the other 49 should die, is that a democracy?

    Re: Nuclear Option Time Again? (none / 0) (#5)
    by scarshapedstar on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:00:50 PM EST
    Or let me put it this way. Do you think Thomas Jefferson would be pleased with whoever Bush nominates and how the Republicans go about the process? If not, get off your high horse.

    Re: Nuclear Option Time Again? (none / 0) (#6)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:00:52 PM EST
    ras: "Right now, it's the Dems who oppose the democratic principle, the R's who support it." The people who packed the Senate by stealing votes in the millions are the ones protecting demockery. They wouldn't know democracy if it bit them -- and maybe it will. Stolen Election Software Uncovered (scroll down to "...security exploits" for the capabilities of these Trojan Horse memory cards) Naughty Diebold, putting .exe. files into their memory cards -- and then specifically denying it, violating every contract with every state they service! There isn't supposed to be ANYTHING executable in those cards, for obvious reasons. Isn't supposed to be, as in ILLEGAL, ras. Doing illegal acts like warmongering, lying the country into war, passing out millions in cash (carried away in duffle bags), outing spies, and stealing elections...what heroes you non-fighting traitors think you are. The whole bunch of you are Cinderella's wicked aunts, so enamored of the mirror that you don't recognize the enemy when you see your own faces.

    Nuclear Option Time Again? | 6 comments (6 topical)