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No Retirement Announcement From Rehnquist

Via Scotus Blog:

The Supreme Court recessed for the summer Monday morning, with no announcement from Chief Justice William H. Rehnquist of his plans to retire or to remain on the Court. The day's session ended after the announcement of six final rulings. Final orders of the Term will be issued at 10 a.m. Tuesday.

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    Re: No Retirement Announcement From Rehnquist (none / 0) (#1)
    by glanton on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:00:36 PM EST
    Every day that goes by right now without a Supreme Court retirement is a day to celebrate. To all of them I beg: just hang on through the end of this bastard's term. If you do this nation will have dodged a huge threat.

    Re: No Retirement Announcement From Rehnquist (none / 0) (#2)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:00:36 PM EST
    yes-keep those courts to protect us from ever having to subject our ideas to any form of democratic give and take.

    Re: No Retirement Announcement From Rehnquist (none / 0) (#3)
    by glanton on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:00:36 PM EST
    Civil liberties are not subject to "democratic give and take," they are inalienable. It is only Hubris and bigotry on the part of the Right that facilitates their sense of entitlement to weigh in on others' pursuit of life, liberty, and happiness. And BTW: If it is O'Connor who retires during the bastard's term, then we need to start establishing our underground railroad as soon as possible.

    Re: No Retirement Announcement From Rehnquist (none / 0) (#4)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:00:36 PM EST
    imaginary civil rights dreamed up by a Court are(while actual civil rights like the right to property are ignored). in your universe, civil rights are usually policy preferences which you favor, gussied up with appropriate language and references. oppression and facism by the bastards, naturally, are policy preferences you don't.

    Re: No Retirement Announcement From Rehnquist (none / 0) (#5)
    by glanton on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:00:36 PM EST
    yes, thanks for awakening me, life liberty and the pursuit of happiness are indeed illusory civil liberties. Thank goodness we finally got a regime to teach us that we do not have a right to privacy, for example. Lets begin by rolling back Roe, then Lawrence V Texas--that'll take care of the women and they gays, right? Next we can start searching bedrooms for contraceptives and forcing children to pray in schools and reignite the Scopes trials--oh, wait, all of tha is currently on the table too. Hell, let's just get all the illusions out of the way as fast as possible. And by the way, oh vermin-minded one, you'll find few if any posting on this thread to defend government seizure of property. I never said this Court was great, only that it is Great by comparison to what it will become if the rotten bastard in the White House gets to impact it.

    Re: No Retirement Announcement From Rehnquist (none / 0) (#6)
    by kdog on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:00:36 PM EST
    Hang on you ol' bugger, hang on!

    Re: No Retirement Announcement From Rehnquist (none / 0) (#7)
    by glanton on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:00:36 PM EST
    And what's funnier still are the posers on here like PPJ and pigwiggle, to name but two, who pretend to have a stake in the issue of civil liberty, who pretend to value privacy, but who look the other way continuously as those principles get more and more gutted under the GOP watch. Yes, all these "social liberals" and "libertarians" are really doing their part to erode whatever claim we have to being a free country. But hey, it feels good to start a war and to make fun of Democrats, so I guess it's worth it. Stay alert, and stay with FOX.

    Re: No Retirement Announcement From Rehnquist (none / 0) (#8)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:00:36 PM EST
    so the republic will crumble if we don't have an unelected few to dream up rights for those who are unwilling to respect the democratic process? Sorry-your path where the five unelected lawyers serve to give the law is more worrisome to me (what if the next five drift in another direction-none of our rights are safe).

    Ed, seven of the nine current justices on this unconscionably activist court were appointed by Republican presidents. Why do Republicans hate freedom?

    Re: No Retirement Announcement From Rehnquist (none / 0) (#10)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:00:36 PM EST
    freedom defined as things you agree with-those on the receiving end of the Kelo decision would question the freedom meted out by the Court. many here would question the freedom granted in the medical marijuana case. the bottom line is the same-the left likes the Court because, with it, democracy doesn't matter. if the Court is generally sympathetic, it really doesn't matter what one's fellow citizens think. the reverence for the Court would go the way of the dodo if the Court were to rule differently and you know it.

    Re: No Retirement Announcement From Rehnquist (none / 0) (#11)
    by glanton on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:00:36 PM EST
    Yes Ed that's right I for one don't gave any special loyalty allegiance to the Court as an institution. And when it joins it's thuggish counterparts in rolling back decades of progress in achieving the dream of a free country, then I will loathe them every bit as much as I do the White House now.

    Ed, if Republican presidents can't appoint a court you like, what's your alternative?

    Oh, and that "unconscionably activist" remark at 3:01? Sarcasm.

    Re: No Retirement Announcement From Rehnquist (none / 0) (#14)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:00:36 PM EST
    In other words, if the dictator is on your side, fine by you. New London is fine with this Court-don't mistake its rulings for creating freedom or do you consider yanking the homes of the "little people" for the interests of private developers to be freedom? as I have already noted, you are just not willing to have your ideas face the test of democracy.

    ctrl-C ctrl-V Ed, if Republican presidents can't appoint a court you like, what's your alternative?

    Re: No Retirement Announcement From Rehnquist (none / 0) (#16)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:00:36 PM EST
    it isn't a matter of just choosing judges-that's the part that is alien to you because the left has apparently put behind it the drudgery of actually winning elections. Putting forth new ideas by convincing their fellow citizens of the rightness of their positions on issues-why bother, just go to the Courts. I think the Courts should be a last option, not a first. They are inherently undemocratic and, in this era, unrestrained in what they feel they are able to do.

    ctrl-C ctrl-V Ed, if Republican presidents can't appoint a court you like, what's your alternative?

    Re: No Retirement Announcement From Rehnquist (none / 0) (#18)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:00:36 PM EST
    civil rights are usually policy preferences which you favor
    You have it backwards- civil rights are rights that all naturally have. The left tends to prefer policy that supports these rights. If you don't like civil rights, move to a fascist state where the government isn't founded around humanism.

    Re: No Retirement Announcement From Rehnquist (none / 0) (#19)
    by Sailor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:00:37 PM EST
    Quaker, just a suggestion, but try 'Command' instead of 'Control' . (Just switched to a Mac did we?;-) civil rights are usually policy preferences which you favor All men are created equal ... sound familiar!?

    Re: No Retirement Announcement From Rehnquist (none / 0) (#20)
    by roger on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:00:37 PM EST
    Ed, Do you really think that lefties like Bush v. Gore? Or Raich? Some of us love the process, and the ideals, even if we dont care for the current makeup of the court. Of course, some hate our form of constitutional government. Why do righties hate America?

    Re: No Retirement Announcement From Rehnquist (none / 0) (#21)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:00:37 PM EST
    Pfft, Rhenquist's last kiss off to the Dems will be making sure he retires on Bush's watch to allow the most conservative, 1700's loving, Christian Taliban bastard in there as possible. On his deathbed, he'll gloat about how he singlehandedly took this country right back to 1890.

    Nah, Fen. When Rhenquist calls it quits, we'll swap one arch-conservative for another--a wash. It's the next resignation that worries me.

    Re: No Retirement Announcement From Rehnquist (none / 0) (#23)
    by glanton on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:00:37 PM EST
    Quaker has it pegged. Rhenquist is a terrible, anti-liberty judge and Dubya would replace him with another. O'Connor is who I worry about (and hell, I don't even like her that much)--if Chimpy gets to replace her its six months till the underground railroads.

    Re: No Retirement Announcement From Rehnquist (none / 0) (#24)
    by ppjakajim on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:00:37 PM EST
    glanton writes
    And what's funnier still are the posers on here like PPJ and pigwiggle, to name but two, who pretend to have a stake in the issue of civil liberty
    Isn't it usually considered in bad taste to pick a fight? BTW - Check the archives and apologize, oh obtuse one.

    Re: No Retirement Announcement From Rehnquist (none / 0) (#26)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:00:38 PM EST
    you ask why we are so afraid of freedom? why are you so afraid of democracy-why do you require an unelected branch of lawyers to give you what you want? is it because your ideas are lousy? you can't be bothered in your brilliance to convince anyone of the rightness of your positions?

    Re: No Retirement Announcement From Rehnquist (none / 0) (#28)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:00:38 PM EST
    you use the southern civil rights issue as a primer for the good the Court does? have you heard of Dred Scott/many other such decisions? do those factor into your analysis of the vast wisdom of the five lawyers? the Constitution means and says things about equality of treatment of the races-do you consider it a great victory that the Court actually enforced those provisions? you are sure aiming low. that is not the problem with the Court-inventing text is(that is where you are afraid of democracy)

    Re: No Retirement Announcement From Rehnquist (none / 0) (#29)
    by glanton on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:00:38 PM EST
    Ed there are inalienable rights for American citizens in America. If the majority wants to revoke those rights, screw em. And if you don't believe in right to privacy then screw you too.

    Re: No Retirement Announcement From Rehnquist (none / 0) (#30)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:00:38 PM EST
    "screw you"-you just made my argument concerning not putting your ideas to the vote. you are just afraid your ideas won't pass muster.

    Re: No Retirement Announcement From Rehnquist (none / 0) (#31)
    by glanton on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:00:38 PM EST
    No what I'm saying is I reject the idea that I need your permission to exist. I do not recognize you as an authority figure over my personal life. Who Americans sleep with, what they read write and say, what they choose to do with their bodies, etc., is 100% their call. It doesn't and shouldn't matter what some drooling lunatics posted outside a clinic or a hospice or a theaterhouse think. When someone is trying to control you, the appropriate response is very much "screw you." Not, oh please, please let me have control over my body and speech and property, what can I do to convince you that I deserve your special approval? You make me sick, Ed, for not seeing this. You represent a cancer that is spreading at a frighteningly rapid rate everywhere in the United States. Meddler. You hypocrites get all bent out of shape (rightfully) over government seizures of private property .... Yet .... you want to argue that there is no right to privacy.

    Re: No Retirement Announcement From Rehnquist (none / 0) (#32)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:00:38 PM EST
    the Constitution is silent on all sorts of things I like-you haven't progressed to the point where you realize that the definition of constitutional does not include "something I like a lot".

    Re: No Retirement Announcement From Rehnquist (none / 0) (#33)
    by glanton on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:00:38 PM EST
    I'm sorry, when did this become about anything I like? What we're talking about is inalienable rights. Everything that spews out of Sean Hannity's mouth disgusts me, yet I would defend his right to say it. Abortion troubles me but it isn't any of my business. Etc. Etc. Etc. Vermin see, vermin do, Ed. Keep it up. You're seeing and doing a great job.

    Re: No Retirement Announcement From Rehnquist (none / 0) (#34)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:00:38 PM EST
    thanks for the kudos. sorry you can't come up with an answer to the simple fact that everything under the sun isn't a matter of constitutional magnitude. you don't seem to grasp that, when any Court just makes things up out of whole cloth, it is just practicing politics without the benefit of an election. Being a judge is a tough enough job-nothing about the job, though, gives one a better insight on what is just or proper than the first five people you meet on the street.