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White House Rejects Call for Karl Rove Apology

Democrats today demanded an apology from Karl Rove for his sleazy comments about liberals and 9/11. The White House refused.

The White House said it would "of course not" heed Democratic demands for an apology from Rove or a presidential condemnation of the adviser's remarks, and it rejected Democratic charges that Rove's words amounted to a Bush administration attempt to exploit the war on terrorism for political gain.

Democratic Chief Deputy Whip Diana DeGette (D-CO)had this to say about Rove's remarks:

"President Bush and Republican Members of Congress should immediately repudiate Karl Rove's shameful remarks. It is unconscionable for Rove, or anyone else, to try to politicize the horrible events of 9/11. He should apologize immediately.

Americans of all political stripes stood united in defense of our great nation and in support of our brave troops in the field. Unfortunately, some decided it was more important to score cheap political points than to maintain that unity.

It is clear, from the comments of leading Republicans including Senators John McCain, Chuck Hagel, John Warner and Ted Stevens, that the war in Iraq is not succeeding. But instead of addressing the failure to adequately supply our troops or adequately plan to defeat the insurgency, one of President Bush's senior advisors is making a scurrilous attack against loyal and proud Americans."

Peter Daou of the Daou Report says:

I'm devoting much of today's report to Karl Rove's vile comments denigrating half of the American public. My office overlooks Ground Zero, and I'm looking at the gaping footprint as I write this. My wife and I were in New York that day, on our way to the WTC for a morning meeting. A chance phone call dragged on a few minutes too long and most likely saved our lives. I lost friends in the towers, and when I walk past the site, as I do almost every evening, the pain is as real as it was on September 11th, 2001.

I spent my youth in Beirut during the height of Lebanon's civil war, and I fought the Syrian presence in Lebanon long before the "Cedar Revolution." I watched young boys give their lives and mothers cradle their dying children in blood-soaked arms. I've seen more bloodshed, war, and violence, and shot more guns than most of the 101st Fighting Keyboardists combined. I wouldn't presume to question the strength or dignity of a stranger, and I pity those who blithely push the right=strong, left=weak rhetoric. It says far more about their inadequacies than it does about the target of their scorn. Today, Karl Rove took that rhetoric to a new, filthy low.

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    Damn, I really like your president. The guy's got guts and honour. You don't know how lucky you are.

    Peter Daou about said it all. I can think of nothing to add to that.

    Damn, I really like your president. The guy's got guts and honour. You don't know how lucky you are.
    Well, I'm hoping this is sarcasm, but if it's not......guts? Yeah, like the guts it takes to send other people's kids into an unwinnable war, yet sit the last unwinnable war out in the champagne guard, only to go AWOL for a year to god knows where on daddy's dime....those kind of guts? Yup, we're soooo lucky you know. Honor? My dog has more honor taking a crap in the yard that Bush has on his best day dude.

    Hooray for DeGette! She represents me!

    Re: White House Rejects Call for Karl Rove Apology (none / 0) (#4)
    by Jlvngstn on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:00:29 PM EST
    The dems are letting them divert attention from the CIA report. Why do you think Rove made these comments? Because he knew the report about new jihadists in Iraq being leaked was consistent with what many liberals said all along, the war in Iraq will create new terrorists and make us less safe. The dems are morons, wasting time on this whilst the important story dies.

    Re: White House Rejects Call for Karl Rove Apology (none / 0) (#5)
    by Darryl Pearce on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:00:29 PM EST
    ...battered spouse Abuse is the only expression of power this administration's bullies and toadies can muster. Lincoln would have been magnanimous in victory: "...coming together with malice towards none and charity for all." Instead, we've gotten Limbaugh-Coulter-O'Reilly-Hannity-Medved-Savage (and their ilk) and now their expulsive rhetoric is at last expressed by those in power. FUKR (...um, er, uh... that stands for Freedom-Understanding-Knowledge-and-Respect)....

    Re: White House Rejects Call for Karl Rove Apology (none / 0) (#6)
    by Randinho on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:00:29 PM EST
    He's doing his job. Lying and smearing. You've got Karl Rove's job description down to a t.

    Re: White House Rejects Call for Karl Rove Apology (none / 0) (#7)
    by Che's Lounge on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:00:29 PM EST
    Hey Durbin, get a clue from these guys and stand up for your f***ing principles! You just damaged your own party more than Rove could jack off to. Just astounding.

    Re: White House Rejects Call for Karl Rove Apology (none / 0) (#8)
    by Che's Lounge on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:00:29 PM EST
    Degette can pontificate all she wants, but Durbin screwed the pooch. And THAT'S what was on the tube. Mainstream Democrats better wise up. Stop kissing ***!!!

    amazing how Coulter hate-spin can become Administration policy.

    This quibbling over what politician said what, the accompanying spin and rhetoric are about as relevent as my local evening news is to my life (not). Forget about what they're SAYING... Look at what they're DOING!!! I can see Rove taunting Ghandi and MLK now ... "What's the matter, too chicken to fight??". We sent too few troops and this Pres. got dressed up in his "uniform" and paraded around under a sign saying Mission Accomplished HOW LONG AGO? They had no plan for the country after rolling into Bagdhad. They either had plans to occupy indefinitely and impound oil assets or were so Rosy in their self-congratulatory assessments that they are lying to themselves as well as to the American People. The emperor has no clothes and the whole rest of the world is waiting for us to see at the end of our noses what they see from Across the pond. Remember Hitler had his apologists too, as did Saddam, Lenin, Pol Pot and Pinochet. The first sign of impending loss of freedom is the public excoriation (sp?) of anyone who doesn't toe the party line. Remember? "you are either WITH us or AGAINST us!!" Who are these kids dying?? For the most part lower income folks who need the money, benefits and education that military service provides. Who's fault is it that they can't go to college without first risking their lives?? And who am I to speak?? I'll tell you. My cousin's husband was on flight #175 when it crashed into the WTC. I cannot fly now without thinking of what he must have gone through - the slow realization that he wasn't going home. I also have a five year old son whom I don't want to have to clean up this mess in 15 years. Now I can blame Terrorists, Saudi Arabian oil policy and our greedy politics in the middle east for the past 50 years for his death. However, if we don't take back the Executive Branch and the Military soon we have no one but our gullible, lazy, flag-waving, muslim murdering selves to blame.

    Correction: Can blame the last 50 years of policy for my cousin's death, but must only blame ourselves at this point for every American soldier who dies in Iraq.

    Re: White House Rejects Call for Karl Rove Apology (none / 0) (#14)
    by ppjakajim on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:00:29 PM EST
    fernia writes:
    Yeah, like the guts it takes to send other people's kids into an unwinnable war, yet sit the last unwinnable war out in the champagne guard, only to go AWOL for a year to god knows where on daddy's dime....
    Got any proof? I mean all of the charges have been disapproved, and even the attempt to forge letters was caught and exposed. So dude, show us some proof. Otherwise just keep on spewing stuff that no one believes. mfox writes:
    Forget about what they're SAYING... Look at what they're DOING!!! I can see Rove taunting Ghandi and MLK now ... "What's the matter, too chicken to fight??".
    Nice line, but I thought we were to forget about what they were saying...
    we have no one but our gullible, lazy, flag-waving, muslim murdering selves to blame.
    So now we have become muslim murders??? Can you expand on that just a bit?

    Try to use more than one neuron at a time, and you will realize mfox is stating "murderers' of muslims" PPJ. But wait, you were, in your usual trollish way, merely being purposefully obtuse. Like we'd expect anything else. ;)

    Got any proof? I mean all of the charges have been disapproved, and even the attempt to forge letters was caught and exposed. So dude, show us some proof. Otherwise just keep on spewing stuff that no one believes.
    Well, it's well documented that Bush DID NOT serve in Vietnam, I'm sure even you know that much. So pardon me if it sounds just a touch hypocritical to start a war on the most flawed and flimsy intelligence you have, send other kids to their deaths, and call other politician's military service into question when you yourself did none. It is also well documented that Bush was missing from his post in the guard during 1972-73. This proof comes from eyewitness reports of people who were in the guard with Bush at this time. You're right, we have no idea where Bush went during this time...but does that really matter? I have family that went over to Vietnam, and hearing Cheney say that he had "better things to do during Vietnam" is just like slapping my family in the face, the bastard.

    Re: White House Rejects Call for Karl Rove Apology (none / 0) (#18)
    by roy on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:00:31 PM EST
    It is unconscionable for Rove, or anyone else, to try to politicize the horrible events of 9/11.
    I don't approve of Rove's comments because they were factually lacking. But can we really justify making 9/11 a taboo reference? We're still modifying our policies in response to the attack, so it's legit to look back and say "What ideas were proposed?" "Which can we toss out?" "Which should we try?" "What worked?" "What didn't?". Making 9/11 responses and ideas off-limits for criticism hurts that effort. Of course, so does basing the discussion on Rovian imaginings. And the Bush habit of not admiting when something doesn't work.

    Re: White House Rejects Call for Karl Rove Apology (none / 0) (#19)
    by ppjakajim on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:00:31 PM EST
    Fenria - If you toss out all Presidents who didn't serve in the military we would have to get rid of FDR and Lincoln. Both war presidents, and both well regarded by historians. And the missing part has been refuted time and again. Even you have to know better than try to bring that up. Link BTW - At least 618,000 Americans died in the Civil War, and some experts say the toll reached 700,000. BTW - Around 400,000 were killed in WWII. As for your complaint that you had family who went to Vietnam, I hate to be blunt but that doesn't make you unique. I trust they weren't killed. Facts are facts. We are engaged in a WOT, and the dead in Iraq deserve our respect. But 1700 is a very small number, many coming after major combat opereations ended. Killed by terrorists who think the Left will force a political settlement on the country, forcing us to withdraw, if they just kill a few more. I hope you understand what I am saying.

    Re: White House Rejects Call for Karl Rove Apology (none / 0) (#20)
    by ppjakajim on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:00:31 PM EST
    Adept - Oh, I dunno. I guess I would think that if some says we are muslim murderers they would have some small bit of proof to show. Course I realize you don't want proof from the Left.