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    Judge identifies (5.00 / 1) (#5)
    by Mr Natural on Fri Jul 03, 2015 at 12:28:22 PM EST
    12 huge (but comforting) lies about justice in America.

    This is a test (5.00 / 1) (#10)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jul 03, 2015 at 03:27:48 PM EST
    which of these videos is a joke

    This one

    Or this one

    Hint, it's a trick question

    The coolest video on Earth (5.00 / 1) (#22)
    by Mr Natural on Fri Jul 03, 2015 at 06:11:02 PM EST
    Urthecast is a new hidef camera service on the ISS, funded by Canada, Russia and the UK.

    Really amazing (none / 0) (#25)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jul 03, 2015 at 06:44:28 PM EST

    This is (none / 0) (#1)
    by FlJoe on Fri Jul 03, 2015 at 12:07:21 PM EST

    A joint state and federal investigation into the activities of accused Charleston church shooter Dylann Roof has widened to include other persons of interest, according to multiple sources familiar with the ongoing investigation.

    Reminds (none / 0) (#2)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Jul 03, 2015 at 12:11:37 PM EST
    me of Timothy McVeigh. At first it seemed like he was a loner but then the feds go to looking into the militia groups among other things.

    Terrorism "Homegrown" (none / 0) (#4)
    by Mr Natural on Fri Jul 03, 2015 at 12:26:24 PM EST
    under the soft grey glow of American social media.

    So in SC (none / 0) (#3)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Jul 03, 2015 at 12:13:18 PM EST
    they are fighting 'til the last dog dies to keep up that flag. link

    I hope it comes down but honestly considering the majority of the citizens don't seem to want it to come down I believe it when I see it.

    Is the KKK Save the Flag rally (none / 0) (#6)
    by nycstray on Fri Jul 03, 2015 at 12:43:57 PM EST
    still happening?

    As far (none / 0) (#7)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Jul 03, 2015 at 01:10:46 PM EST
    as I know. One of my friends from high school told another classmate it was time for SC to grow up. Wishful thinking I'm afraid.

    Off topic...but duck fat (5.00 / 2) (#9)
    by Militarytracy on Fri Jul 03, 2015 at 03:21:03 PM EST
    I order mine online and have it delivered.  I have never seen it in a grocery store here.  It seems to ship fine though.  It comes in a jar.  It has the consistency of soft butter, even coming out of the frig.  One of those BBQ brushes works really well in applying it, or a silicone food brush.

    I get mine by rendering (none / 0) (#28)
    by scribe on Fri Jul 03, 2015 at 09:02:49 PM EST
    while cooking a duck myself - I usually do the 5 hours at 300 method and collect the fat every hour when I turn the bird.  I usually get a good pint from an average duck.  Keep it in a Mason jar.
    When it cools, I freeze it.  It'll keep a good long time.  There will be some of the glace settling out.  That's good to have around, too.
    I like using it for scrambled eggs - there's a bit of the flavor of the duck, and it takes only a little bit to do the job.

    As one who actually lives (none / 0) (#29)
    by coast on Fri Jul 03, 2015 at 09:35:44 PM EST
    In SC, a majority want it to come down.

    Trump (none / 0) (#8)
    by lentinel on Fri Jul 03, 2015 at 02:08:30 PM EST
    announced that he is worth 8 billion.

    A tidy sum, in my opinion.

    Then, the next day, I read that some guy in Saudi Arabia is giving 32 billion of his money to some charity.

    Makes me think that what I think of as people being very very well
    off are really chump change in the eyes of the people who really run the show.

    Why would you believe him (5.00 / 1) (#14)
    by Peter G on Fri Jul 03, 2015 at 04:16:43 PM EST
    when he says that, given his track record for credibility generally? I'd like to know, for example, the amount of debt he and his companies are carrying, and their payment history on that debt. And how much he pays in taxes, including how many of his real estate deals are tax-favored (i.e., rich-people-welfare-enabled) by the city where they are located. Now, if he offers his personal financial records for an independent audit with disclosure of the results to the media and to the IRS, maybe I'd pay attention.

    Your wish may come true (5.00 / 1) (#16)
    by Reconstructionist on Fri Jul 03, 2015 at 04:44:10 PM EST
      Trump must disclose

     shifting gears, from a purely strategic sense (although bad for society) I can't think of anything better for Dems than the way the Repub rce is drawing entrants. The more and the crazier they are, the beeter. Trump or some other crazy flamethrower will not get the nomination let alone be elected so being in the game drawing attention toward the crazy and away from the potentially electable is a plus. So is the fracturing of the Repub electorate which will make it more difficult to coalesce around the eventual nominee. And, maybe equally helpful is the way the lunatics will scare away swing voters especially if the sane ones are too fearful of far right backlash to directly repudiate the crazy.

       The Repub set up is a Dem wet dream.


    This is (none / 0) (#26)
    by FlJoe on Fri Jul 03, 2015 at 07:05:30 PM EST
    the real deadline.
    But under a 1978 federal ethics law, presidential candidates must file a personal financial disclosure with the FEC within 30 days after announcing their candidacies. (They can request two 45-day extensions.) The filing must detail their financial interests and income, as well as those of their spouses and dependent children.
    He has until mid October to show his cards.

    That being said, I have no idea what game he is playing. He is doubling and tripling down on the Mexican rapist meme for no good reason, sure he gains poll numbers, but his brand, not to mention his wallet, is getting hammered. Trump's name recognition alone would have given him the numbers to get on stage on opening night on Fox, which is the short term goal of any of them.

    If he is bluffing, why damage his brand for a few meaningless poll points? If he is serious does he think he could win on the backs of the racists? If he was so craven why would he be blowing the dog horn this early?  I don't get it.


    He's doubling (none / 0) (#27)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Jul 03, 2015 at 07:52:40 PM EST
    down on the Mexican racist meme because he's "The Donald" and he has an ego as big as Alaska and can't admit that he was wrong or mistaken. I really don't think at this point it has anything to do with the points in the polls so much he's can't admit that he is ever wrong even to the point where it is costing him business.

    But past that I don't get why he is even running in the first place. What kind of crazy is he offering that isn't being offered by the likes of Ted Cruz or any other crazy Republican? Again, it must all be completely ego driven unless he truly has some mental problem like schizophrenia that we do not know about.


    The Republicans (none / 0) (#30)
    by FlJoe on Fri Jul 03, 2015 at 09:48:01 PM EST
    do provide plenty of fodder for us amateur shrinks.

    Summoning Mark Twain (5.00 / 1) (#15)
    by Repack Rider on Fri Jul 03, 2015 at 04:20:22 PM EST
    "I'd like to buy him for what I think he's worth, and sell him for what he thinks he's worth."

    Well (none / 0) (#11)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jul 03, 2015 at 03:49:18 PM EST
    supposedly it was his WHOLE fortune.  He probably only kept a few million for expenses.

    I get a kick (none / 0) (#12)
    by Repack Rider on Fri Jul 03, 2015 at 04:07:14 PM EST
    ...out of the frustrated GOP fossils trying to hold back the tide of same sex marriage.

    Santorum and Huckabee lead the charge, saying they will "resist" this ruling.  I want to know what form this resistance will take.

    I believe they have taken the Ring pledge (5.00 / 1) (#13)
    by Peter G on Fri Jul 03, 2015 at 04:12:02 PM EST
    not to marry anyone of the same gender as themselves. That should teach the Supreme Court!

    One ring to rule them all (none / 0) (#17)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jul 03, 2015 at 04:48:18 PM EST
    One ring to find them
    One ring to bring them all
    And in the darkness bind them

    Yes, of course, there's that Ring (none / 0) (#31)
    by Peter G on Fri Jul 03, 2015 at 09:54:39 PM EST
    But I was referring to this one and this one.

    Did (none / 0) (#32)
    by FlJoe on Fri Jul 03, 2015 at 10:06:20 PM EST
    Bristol Palin lose hers, twice? Or should we check the pawn shops in Wasilla?

    Cruz and others (none / 0) (#18)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jul 03, 2015 at 04:50:10 PM EST
    are making a big deal that the vote was 5 to 4.

    Ever notice how a 5 to 4 vote is never a problem if you win?


    Yes, Captain. (5.00 / 1) (#20)
    by KeysDan on Fri Jul 03, 2015 at 05:35:50 PM EST
    Are they out campaigning against Citizens United (5/4),or Shelby County (5/4)?  

    The subtext to (none / 0) (#19)
    by KeysDan on Fri Jul 03, 2015 at 05:12:12 PM EST
    a Huckabee/Santorum et al. "Traditional Marriage" as an institution of oppression rather than one of love is the red subtext of a fire engine.  The tradition of loss they lament is not so much the revelation that marriage does not have to be a gendered institution, but that the tradition of gender roles in marriage has been  upended.  

    Traditional marriage depends on what your definition of marriage is.  And, for Huckabee/Santorum, progress is the enemy of their idea of marriage;  Man and a woman they say, but what do they mean?  They may have moved, a bit, from wife as chattel, but not much, if at all, from wife as extension of husband.  Not a person in their own right; wife is duty and procreation and theirs is keeping the little Misses happy.  

    Of course, Huckabee/Santorum are anti-gay panderers.     No acknowledgement is possible that unless it can be shown that same sex marriage harms people who are not gay, or who are gay but don't want to marry, there is no compelling reason for states to ban such marriages.Other than the subtextual tradition and way of life.

     A new tradition of marriage has long ago passed them by-- one of equal partnerships in love and life. They can not abide it and can only seek to have their well-deserved loss privileged as sincerely held belief.  


    Historian Juan Cole on "Biblical" (none / 0) (#21)
    by Mr Natural on Fri Jul 03, 2015 at 05:57:45 PM EST
    Marriage:  It's all there:  Polygamy. Sex slaves.  Dominance and Submission.  Sadism.

    As for getting married biblically, you can do that in all kinds of imaginative ways- take two wives and someone else's sex slave as Abraham did, or 300 sex slaves as Solomon did (not to mention the 700 wives), or your brother's widow in addition to your own wife. And remember, if your sex slave runs away because you're cruel to the person, the Bible (Philemon) says that other people have the duty to return the slave to you, i.e. basically imposes the duty of trafficking slaves back to sadistic sex maniacs who exploit them. But if the owner is nice and a good Christian, he might consider letting the sex slave go. But he doesn't have to.

    parsing the law (none / 0) (#23)
    by thomas rogan on Fri Jul 03, 2015 at 06:28:58 PM EST

    San Francisco chose to be a "sanctuary city", so they decided that they could not spend local money to honor an ICE detainer.  He would have been legally detained in Texas.  

    link to above (none / 0) (#24)
    by thomas rogan on Fri Jul 03, 2015 at 06:29:23 PM EST