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Posted on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 05:39:07 PM EST
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The remedy for disliked speech is more speech, not a pie in the face.

William Kristol, editor of The Weekly Standard and former chief of staff to Vice President Dan Quayle, was splattered by a student during a speech about U.S. foreign policy at Earlham College Tuesday. Members of the audience jeered the student, then applauded as Kristol wiped the pie from his face and said, "Just let me finish this point," the Palladium-Item reported

Earlham suspended the dissenter for his childish behavior.

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    Stupid Person of the Week | 49 comments (49 topical)
    Re: Stupid Person of the Week (none / 0) (#1)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 06:18:09 PM EST
    Well said, TL.

    Re: Stupid Person of the Week (none / 0) (#2)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 06:20:04 PM EST
    TChris, you are awfully brave titling this Stupid Person of the Week. This is only Wednesday.

    Re: Stupid Person of the Week (none / 0) (#3)
    by norbizness on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 06:36:46 PM EST
    Oh, the piemanity!

    Re: Stupid Person of the Week (none / 0) (#4)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 07:17:43 PM EST
    Is he stupid for throwing the pie and causing a disturbance, or is he stupid for not taking stronger action to shut the speaker up? I think Ward Connely would think the latter.

    Re: Stupid Person of the Week (none / 0) (#5)
    by glanton on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 07:21:00 PM EST
    Actually, he's stupid for having wasted his time going to see Kristol speak at all. I'd rather go to a John Cage concert.....more would get said.

    Re: Stupid Person of the Week (none / 0) (#6)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 07:41:46 PM EST
    Foreign policy? pie in the face! childish but normal. but the line"let me finish my point is really great. criminal governments always act like this.

    Re: Stupid Person of the Week (none / 0) (#7)
    by Kitt on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 08:00:55 PM EST
    Who's John Cage?

    Re: Stupid Person of the Week (none / 0) (#8)
    by glanton on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 08:07:21 PM EST
    Kitt: If I'm not mistaken (this is from short term deficient memory, someone help me out here if I flubbed the name) Cage is one of those musicians who takes the stage, sits in front of a piano, and then just sits there and sits there. Supposedly, it is the shuffling of the audience as they figure out what's going on that forms the music. Finally people get up and start leaving. Very bizarre, even opaque.

    Re: Stupid Person of the Week (none / 0) (#9)
    by glanton on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 08:16:52 PM EST
    Yeah, I just googled Cage, I named the right guy, he did actual songs too, but I always remembered him for the silent ones. Check out some of the really informative and interesting websites that come up whern you type "John Cage" + "Music."

    Re: Stupid Person of the Week (none / 0) (#10)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 09:39:52 PM EST
    Bah. More props to the guy for pieing the guy in the face. While I'm sure some yuppies will twaddle on about how wrong this is, so on and so forth, some of us don't feel the intense desire to be boring as hell with our politics. Does it really hurt to get pied? No. Is it childish? Possibly. But then again I don't see CNN calling up anti-war activists and other peace minded people to talk to the same size audience that many conservative and middle of the road liberals get. So spare me the santicmonious crap about the misfortune of him getting pied in the face. When those who own the media and the methods of dissemination in our society decide to let people come on and speak, I'll start disapproving of mildly amusing pranks like this. Time to go back to making more pies...

    Re: Stupid Person of the Week (none / 0) (#11)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 09:40:31 PM EST
    Childish? Maybe. But not even REMOTELY as serious as the actions described just three posts below, in which Americans right to freedom to listen (not even to speak!) was denied by official (whether Secret Service or Republican Party) action, something which is happening REPEATEDLY (every few days if the truth were fully known).

    Re: Stupid Person of the Week (none / 0) (#12)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 09:52:27 PM EST
    Eli, it also happens in every administration. At least these guys can be fairly certain that, once they are released, they won't have the IRS sicced on them.

    Re: Stupid Person of the Week (none / 0) (#13)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 10:12:16 PM EST
    What I want to know is how the hell do you sneak a pie in? -"I'm just going to sit quietly during the speech and eat my pie. Don't mind me."

    Re: Stupid Person of the Week (none / 0) (#14)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 11:46:34 PM EST
    Great question, Ern!

    Re: Stupid Person of the Week (none / 0) (#15)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Wed Mar 30, 2005 at 11:48:18 PM EST
    Usually the "pies" are nothing more than whip cream quickly sprayed on a cheap disposable plate. If you're quick enough you can spray enough whip cream and launch before anyone even realizes the strange hissing noise going on.

    Re: Stupid Person of the Week (none / 0) (#16)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Thu Mar 31, 2005 at 03:08:54 AM EST
    I believe it was Perle who said he wouldn't change anything about the Iraq revolution who then had to duck a shoe irate enough about mass murder to shout "MF LIAR!" as well. Bill Kristol is up to his eyeballs in the blood of innocent people. For attempting to shame such a malfeasant human being and QED racist, TChris calls the person 'stupid.' Well, I suppose so, if to TChris the Iraqis themselves are 'childish' to contend over the future of their families and communities. Harmless acts, compared to incredibly harmful, vicious acts. Hmm, which ones to blame?

    Re: Stupid Person of the Week (none / 0) (#17)
    by Richard Aubrey on Thu Mar 31, 2005 at 04:42:32 AM EST
    Paul. The Iraqi contention you're talking about; is it the arguing in the parliament, or is it the murder of civilians by Baathists? You need to be clearer.

    Re: Stupid Person of the Week (none / 0) (#18)
    by kdog on Thu Mar 31, 2005 at 07:49:13 AM EST
    No big deal...a pie to the face once in awhile is good for democracy.

    Re: Stupid Person of the Week (none / 0) (#19)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Thu Mar 31, 2005 at 09:06:32 AM EST
    O'reilly a guy for bush and mexico! this thing is sad and its normal.

    Re: Stupid Person of the Week (none / 0) (#20)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Thu Mar 31, 2005 at 09:33:38 AM EST
    When Zell Miller was at the RNC, listing the weapons that the left likes to use, he forgot pies.

    Re: Stupid Person of the Week (none / 0) (#21)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Thu Mar 31, 2005 at 10:01:23 AM EST
    Oh dear me! Billy Kristol got pied. That pompous little chickenhawk twit deserved it.

    Re: Stupid Person of the Week (none / 0) (#22)
    by kdog on Thu Mar 31, 2005 at 10:26:39 AM EST
    Soldier...would you prefer bullets?

    Re: Stupid Person of the Week (none / 0) (#23)
    by Al on Thu Mar 31, 2005 at 10:51:04 AM EST
    Nothing wrong with being childish. Do these thugs expect politeness now?

    Re: Stupid Person of the Week (none / 0) (#24)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Thu Mar 31, 2005 at 12:27:22 PM EST
    Hmmmm..........kind of puts the whole tossing out the three guys in Denver a bit more understandable now, doesn't it?

    Re: Stupid Person of the Week (none / 0) (#25)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Thu Mar 31, 2005 at 12:31:20 PM EST
    Soldier...would you prefer bullets? Depends on which end of the bullet I'm on. What did you have in mind?

    Re: Stupid Person of the Week (none / 0) (#26)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Thu Mar 31, 2005 at 12:40:37 PM EST
    Gerry, the idea of any public figure, particuarly politicians, kicking someone out because they might be lampooned, or ::GASP:: even pie is disturbing, because hell, I PAY their salaries. If I wanted to walk straight into their office and tell them what for I should be able to.

    Re: Stupid Person of the Week (none / 0) (#27)
    by kdog on Thu Mar 31, 2005 at 01:09:34 PM EST
    I don't think so Gerry, unless new gov't policy is pre-emptive ejection from public forums for the potential possesion and use of weapons of mass dessert. It's a prank, the pie to the face is the oldest gag in the book. Soldier...I simply meant throwing pies at those you disagree with is better than shooting them. If the "weapon of the left" is pies, sure beats guns.

    Re: Stupid Person of the Week (none / 0) (#28)
    by Jlvngstn on Thu Mar 31, 2005 at 07:48:17 PM EST
    Soldier sounds like a real tough guy, makes me pee my pants. I would never try to pie such a tough guy.

    Re: Stupid Person of the Week (none / 0) (#29)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Thu Mar 31, 2005 at 08:27:34 PM EST
    JLvngstn, on this board I have one post, which was a compliment to Ern and three posts, which are jokes. Some would say all my posts are jokes, but that's beside the point. Would you mind telling me which of these posts upset you so much? I apologize about your pants. Hope you weren’t in public when it happened.

    Re: Stupid Person of the Week (none / 0) (#30)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Thu Mar 31, 2005 at 09:54:55 PM EST
    kdog- "new gov't policy is pre-emptive ejection from public forums for the potential possesion and use of weapons of mass dessert." Too funny. The definition of WMD has just been expanded.

    Re: Stupid Person of the Week (none / 0) (#31)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Fri Apr 01, 2005 at 02:13:13 AM EST
    "Posted by Paul in LA: "I believe it was Perle who said he wouldn't change anything about the Iraq revolution" Posted by Richard Aubrey: "Paul. The Iraqi contention you're talking about; is it the arguing in the parliament, or is it the murder of civilians by Baathists?" I meant to type 'invasion.' The Iraq invasion. Perle is another of the Never Made a Mistake crowd around Bushliar who have destroyed thousands of our best troops through sheer criminal negligence and impeachable lies.

    Re: Stupid Person of the Week (none / 0) (#32)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Fri Apr 01, 2005 at 08:01:44 AM EST
    ROTFLMFAO!!! You all are so funny I'm literally typing with tears in my eyes. Soldier, I really like our discourse - it's a pleasure to read your obviously sincere opinions even though we may disagree. Last night I was thinking about our exchanges and feeling like we've established more dialog and consensus than the Senate and Congress together!

    Re: Stupid Person of the Week (none / 0) (#33)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Fri Apr 01, 2005 at 08:05:05 AM EST
    Immature, yes. But honestly, I wouldn't mind having pied Mr. Kristol as my claim to fame. Would that L.H. Oswald and Sirhan Sirhan had been dessert aficionados...

    Re: Stupid Person of the Week (none / 0) (#34)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Fri Apr 01, 2005 at 08:38:33 AM EST
    I feel the same way, mfox. Disagreement should make a conversation interesting, not cantankerous. Sadly, it is easy to have a better dialog than our Senate and House. Too often, both sides act more like professional wrestlers, playing to their fans, rathan than adult, elected officials.

    Re: Stupid Person of the Week (none / 0) (#35)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Fri Apr 01, 2005 at 09:39:33 AM EST
    LOL - we'd make a helluva ticket, Soldier. Hopefully you have some real military experience, since I am undoubtedly the Northeast liberal!

    Re: Stupid Person of the Week (none / 0) (#36)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Fri Apr 01, 2005 at 10:14:37 AM EST
    I can't help noticing, though that republicans don't do this to liberal speakers. This should not be encouraged. It's wrong.

    Re: Stupid Person of the Week (none / 0) (#37)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Fri Apr 01, 2005 at 10:32:15 AM EST
    I can't help noticing, though that republicans don't do this to liberal speakers. This should not be encouraged. It's wrong.
    Lizzie, I suppose you've got to start somewhere righting the wrongs of the world. Glad to see you've taken a strong moral stand against liberal pie throwers who are ruining this country!

    Re: Stupid Person of the Week (none / 0) (#38)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Fri Apr 01, 2005 at 10:36:21 AM EST
    HAHA! LIberals can only get noticed when they pie someone in the face because they can bring no ideas to the table. Next dinner party I'll look to the republicans for conversation and the liberals for the dessert.

    Re: Stupid Person of the Week (none / 0) (#39)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Fri Apr 01, 2005 at 11:39:11 AM EST
    mfox, So what *you're* saying is that it's NOT wrong, and that it SHOULD be encouraged. It may not be ruining the country, but it's childish. If you want to be taken seriously, maybe actually try to seriously debate your ideas (and no, namecalling does not count as debate). Good luck with that.

    Re: Stupid Person of the Week (none / 0) (#40)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Fri Apr 01, 2005 at 11:58:51 AM EST
    > If I'm not mistaken (this is from short term deficient memory, someone help me out here if I flubbed the name) Cage is one of those musicians who takes the stage, sits in front of a piano, and then just sits there and sits there. Sort of like a liberal discussing policy.

    Re: Stupid Person of the Week (none / 0) (#41)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Fri Apr 01, 2005 at 12:23:24 PM EST
    "Bill Kristol is up to his eyeballs in the blood of innocent people. For attempting to shame such a malfeasant human being and QED racist, TChris calls the person 'stupid.' Well, I suppose so, if to TChris the Iraqis themselves are 'childish' to contend over the future of their families and communities." If we measure this against the war: ex: "What's a pie compared to 10,000 Iraqi dead?" what justification doesn't work? "Of course I set off that naplam cannister on Kristol, he started the war! It killed 10 people who tried to put him out, but it's his fault, because he started the war! Then...the fire got out of control and...that put the body count at 10,011, and, like...there was only 10,000 Iraqi dead. Dude, I was so wrong." Let's encourage each other to act like grown-ups. It may be boring, but you stand a chance of actually convincing someone that you are right.

    Re: Stupid Person of the Week (none / 0) (#42)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Fri Apr 01, 2005 at 01:07:12 PM EST
    Fair enough. I don't support pieing per se, but can't I have a short list of people I'd like to pie? If the childish urge to do something harmless makes me one of the bad guys, or if I refuse to get all offended and huffy I suppose you could invalidate every opinion I have. Right now, my top pie candidates are Jesse Jackson and Tom DeLay - preferably with a Florida Key Lime pie! Fred, I try not to name-call, though I am the subject of such daily. Did I call anyone names here?

    Re: Stupid Person of the Week (none / 0) (#43)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Fri Apr 01, 2005 at 01:15:55 PM EST
    I think it's great. As a Reagan-Conservative Bill Kristol is not representative of true conservative values. He, like Newt, plays the middleman card in frequently attacking Bush in order to appear more creditable the next time he attacks Democrats. No one with a sliver of a brain is fooled by the dishonest approach to opinionated journalism. His "contributions" are laughable at best. And that's the risk you run when you play that game; true conservatives won't be there to lend support and obviously liberals won't do the same. I mean, it's a win-win situation for conservatives: 1) America needs to see more of the liberal antics of intolerance and vitriolic hatred and 2) Opportunistic "neo-cons" get a taste of humble pie, no pun intended.

    Re: Stupid Person of the Week (none / 0) (#44)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Fri Apr 01, 2005 at 03:23:21 PM EST
    "Posted by: kdog on March 31, 2005 11:26 AM Soldier...would you prefer bullets?" You mean like the drive by shootings at Republican Campaign offices during the last election?

    Re: Stupid Person of the Week (none / 0) (#46)
    by Richard Aubrey on Fri Apr 01, 2005 at 04:56:11 PM EST
    Paul. I get it now. But no problem. We are all subject to Freudian s***s --slips, I mean slips--from time to time. Not my line. Heard it from a behavioral psych prof--who probably used it every semester. Also, it's nice to see a lefty trying to be convincing in pretending concern for the troops. Keep it up. There may come a time when you are able to fool as many as one people.

    Re: Stupid Person of the Week (none / 0) (#45)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Fri Apr 01, 2005 at 05:36:49 PM EST
    imposter comment deleted

    Re: Stupid Person of the Week (none / 0) (#47)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Fri Apr 01, 2005 at 08:27:02 PM EST
    heh, I love these comments its supporting asinine, childish and downright loony behaviour like that that keeps liberals out of power. w00t! we got a pie in his face! bam, bad publicity for Dems, libs and anti-war moonbats everywhere in the eyes of swing voters. You really want to associate yourselves with supporting this kind of behaviour? The next step is probably the guy shows up with a gun instead of a pie. Its assault, and its stupid and wrong. You get your little snickering thrills, enjoy them, because its cold comfort while conservatives are running the country, passing laws and naming judges to lifelong tenures. They dont' all get filibustered.

    Re: Stupid Person of the Week (none / 0) (#48)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sat Apr 02, 2005 at 08:31:29 AM EST
    a salad dressing in the face is a symbolism of sperm in the face thrown by a homo to his male object of desire.

    Re: Stupid Person of the Week (none / 0) (#49)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Sun Apr 03, 2005 at 09:41:39 PM EST
    Sadly, puppets has it right:
    You get your little snickering thrills, enjoy them, because its cold comfort while conservatives are running the country, passing laws and naming judges to lifelong tenures. They dont' all get filibustered.
    Stop wasting time on Pie; work to change this!

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