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    This just in (5.00 / 1) (#11)
    by CoralGables on Thu Sep 03, 2015 at 09:15:54 AM EST
    and as expected:

    Judge Richard Berman has overturned Tom Brady's four-game suspension.

    Watch this year... (5.00 / 1) (#22)
    by Dadler on Thu Sep 03, 2015 at 10:01:04 AM EST
    ...as the Patriots fumble total goes back to the league average. Forget Tom's comfort with a Nerf ball in his hand, fumble prevention was the biggest beneficiary for those cheaters. He'll break his leg this year if there is any justice in the universe. He is the supermodel of the NFL. Eff him.

    As it should be! (none / 0) (#16)
    by masslib on Thu Sep 03, 2015 at 09:34:32 AM EST
    I have no doubt that some day, (none / 0) (#20)
    by Anne on Thu Sep 03, 2015 at 09:56:14 AM EST
    a scan or MRI will reveal that Brady has a horseshoe firmly seated in his lower colon.

    Next question: when is Bob Kraft giving those two equipment guys their jobs back?

    Also, what effect will there be from the court having essentially completely fked with a collective bargaining agreement?  


    It was never in doubt (none / 0) (#21)
    by CoralGables on Thu Sep 03, 2015 at 09:59:34 AM EST
    Ruling with an iron fist, aka punishing with no evidence, is a losing hand unless you own an army.

    Interesting Happening in the GOP Today (none / 0) (#1)
    by CoralGables on Thu Sep 03, 2015 at 08:09:52 AM EST
    Trump to meet with Reince Priebus and Trump holding a press conference at 2:00pm

    Not sure where it's going but the best line I've seen on the topic is from Greg Sargent of the Washington Post:

    So... GOP establishment is responding to anti-establishment Trump surge by demanding statement of loyalty to GOP establishment?

    Can't believe he will sign (none / 0) (#6)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Sep 03, 2015 at 08:28:14 AM EST
    but if he does he will get some assurances of his own.  Alternatively he might sign with the caveat "if you are nice to me"

    Keep in mind (none / 0) (#9)
    by CoralGables on Thu Sep 03, 2015 at 08:59:30 AM EST
    There is nothing legally binding by signing.

    That is What I Was Thinking (none / 0) (#12)
    by ScottW714 on Thu Sep 03, 2015 at 09:19:04 AM EST
    Trump is on-board until he isn't.

    It is always risky to (none / 0) (#10)
    by KeysDan on Thu Sep 03, 2015 at 09:08:31 AM EST
    predict what Trump will do.  Much leverage exits in Trump not signing, and it would seem reasonable for him to continue, as in the first debate,  "not to raise his hand."  Therefore, I feel that he WILL sign.   He has now tasted the sweetness of being not only a Republican party contender, but also, a front runner.

    Devils advocate (none / 0) (#18)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Sep 03, 2015 at 09:42:59 AM EST
    it could be a trap.  An idiotic trap but the best they can do.  Get him to sign the pledge and them unleash the wrath of the 7 hells on him.

    Clerk Davis of Rowan County, (none / 0) (#2)
    by KeysDan on Thu Sep 03, 2015 at 08:14:25 AM EST
    KY is to appear in federal court today at 11 am.  The Court should levy a heavy fine on the County. Say, $1000 per day until the clerk's office complies with the Court order.  Clerk Davis is a responsibility  of the county, as an elected official.  A personal fine is likely to be paid by her Christian supporters,  Of course, not adhering to the law is OK if it is something they support.   Jail time, could come later, if necessary.   All the fines could be refunded to the county upon compliance, i.e, she does her job.     The county taxpayers faced with increases in taxes, are less likely to become martyrs to their cause.

    I was hoping for 1000 a day (5.00 / 2) (#4)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Sep 03, 2015 at 08:25:59 AM EST
    doubling every day until she complies.  That should keep her internet fundraisers busy.

    Yonkers 1989s (none / 0) (#8)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Sep 03, 2015 at 08:49:32 AM EST
    In 1988, after Judge Sand imposed contempt-of-court fines that doubled every day, the Council acquiesced and voted to approve the court-ordered desegregation plan. By the time of the vote, though, Yonkers had already racked up $819,000 in nonrefundable fines. If the plan had not been approved, the city would have had to lay off hundreds of workers to pay the mounting fines.

    Not just Davis (none / 0) (#5)
    by CoralGables on Thu Sep 03, 2015 at 08:27:53 AM EST
    All of her Deputy Clerks have been ordered to appear.

    IT IS ORDERED that this matter be, and is, hereby set for a hearing on Plaintiffs' Motion to Hold Defendant Kim Davis in Contempt of Court (Doc. # 67) on Thursday, September 3, 2015 at 11:00a.m. in Ashland, Kentucky. Defendant Davis and each of her deputy clerks shall be present at the hearing.

    Judge Bunning may start with Davis and go right down the line of Clerks until he finds one that will uphold the law.

    Supposedly (none / 0) (#7)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Sep 03, 2015 at 08:29:31 AM EST
    one has said they will.   Also two more KY county clerks joined the stoppage yesterday.

    The Question is... (none / 0) (#13)
    by ScottW714 on Thu Sep 03, 2015 at 09:25:02 AM EST
    ...why isn't that person issuing them ?

    I think the 2 additional refusals do not help Davis at all.

    JB, the judge, David Bunning has a interesting pedigree:

    Bunning is the son of Jim Bunning, the Hall of Fame pitcher for the Detroit Tigers and Philadelphia Phillies who served two terms as Kentucky's junior U.S. Senator. Former Republican President George W. Bush nominated David Bunning for a lifetime position as a federal judge in 2001 when he was just 35 years old, halfway through his dad's first term in the Senate.

    Simple (none / 0) (#15)
    by CoralGables on Thu Sep 03, 2015 at 09:34:06 AM EST
    why isn't that person issuing them

    The law reads that Davis issues them unless Davis isn't available. Davis may be unavailable later today.


    Fear of unemployment? (none / 0) (#17)
    by Chuck0 on Thu Sep 03, 2015 at 09:35:38 AM EST
    Kim Davis is the boss. All the clerks in the office work for her. Anyone issuing a marriage license against her wishes is probably headed for the unemployment line (as of the moment).

    California Settles Solitary Confinement Lawsuit (none / 0) (#3)
    by Mr Natural on Thu Sep 03, 2015 at 08:19:29 AM EST
    This is a 'Game-Changer.'  California had led the nation in keeping people in cold storage," said forensic psychiatrist Terry Kupers, one of several criminal justice experts who had filed research findings in the case...

    Ending years of litigation, hunger strikes and contentious debate, California has agreed to move thousands of state prisoners out of solitary confinement under the terms of a landmark lawsuit settlement.

    Corrections officials, who have long used indefinite isolation to control violent prison gangs, will cease the practice and return nearly 2,000 inmates to the general population, according to the agreement announced Tuesday.

    - Paige St. John, Tribune News Service, August 2, 2015

    Little discussion here on the refugee (none / 0) (#14)
    by Chuck0 on Thu Sep 03, 2015 at 09:33:15 AM EST
    crisis in Europe. My opinion is probably not popular here, but maybe it's time for Europe to take more interest in the goings on of ISIS and should step up to take them out.

    I believe wholeheartedly that ISIS is a creation of the United States' blunders in Iraq. Thank you Bush and dark lord Cheney. But now the aftermath is affecting nearly the entire world. We broke it and don't have the will to fix it. I don't want to see US troops back in Iraq, however I also believe that ISIS is the personification of real evil. They need to eliminated. Stopped from breathing air.

    The refugee crisis seems to me, to be an opportunity to create a real coalition of armed forces. It is in Europe's best interests now, to end ISIS or the flow of humanity will not stop.

    It works for me (none / 0) (#19)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Sep 03, 2015 at 09:45:34 AM EST
    saw something this morning I thought was quite moving.

    editorial cartoons are not always funny


    ISIS does not wear uniforms (none / 0) (#23)
    by Dadler on Thu Sep 03, 2015 at 10:05:45 AM EST
    And with the number of heavy weapons littering that region, you are talking, still, a couple of decades of bloodshed to go about it that way, short of a complete occupation that would include, say, 20 million foreign troops. As such, you'd be better to simply advocate carpet bombing, cuz in the long run, ironically, you'd probably kill fewer people. The best thing is for people everywhere to throw off the shackles of every ridiculous paradigm humanity has created and just be decent to each other. Offer those refugees the greatest opportunity people have ever seen, and offer it to your own citizens too. Lead by overly human EXAMPLE.

    Liar Liar (none / 0) (#24)
    by FlJoe on Thu Sep 03, 2015 at 10:07:50 AM EST
    pants on fire . From Dick "I didn't do emails" Cheney
    "The day I walked into my new office as the Vice-President, there was a computer there that I had them immediately remove.

    That's sure an odd looking typewriter on your desk there you lying POS.