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Posted on Mon Mar 07, 2005 at 02:02:18 PM EST
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Milwaukee Police Officer Jon Bartlett has been charged with "terrorizing Frank Jude Jr. with a knife and kicking him so hard in the head that bones crackled." But this isn't the first time that Bartlett has been accused of using needless violence against a black suspect. Bartlett "had been accused of using excessive force three times against other black men - one of them fatally - in his five years with Milwaukee police, the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reported Sunday."

How Bartlett got hired for the job is a mystery.

Before Bartlett was hired by Milwaukee police in 1999, he was convicted of trying to escape from police and got less-than-positive reviews from two employers, including a demotion from the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee Police Department.

Also charged with beating Jude is Officer Daniel Masarik ... and yes, you know where this is going. Masarik also has a checkered record, having "used a stun gun on six suspects in 11 weeks last year, the newspaper reported."

Jude says the officers repeatedly used racial slurs during their violent encounter with him.

One of those suspects accused Masarik of saying he "enjoyed" beating up the suspect's brother.

The criminal allegations against the officers are horrific.

The criminal complaint says Jude's pants were cut off, his fingers were pulled back, a pen was jammed in both ears, a gun was put to his head and a knife to his throat as he lay facedown in a Bay View street on Oct. 24.

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    Milwaukee Police Accused of Violent Attack | 28 comments (28 topical)
    Re: Milwaukee Police Accused of Violent Attack (none / 0) (#1)
    by Johnny on Mon Mar 07, 2005 at 02:39:29 PM EST
    With more cops like this, crime would end. All the criminals would be on the side wearing blue.

    Re: Milwaukee Police Accused of Violent Attack (none / 0) (#2)
    by Kitt on Mon Mar 07, 2005 at 02:59:26 PM EST
    I've been told, Milwaukeeans are a pretty tough lot, thus having "used a stun gun on six suspects in 11 weeks last year would make sense. I'm sure he had his reasons. Maybe he comes from Dallas, Detroit, D.C., some place a little more laid back and he just needs to ..... lighten up.

    Re: Milwaukee Police Accused of Violent Attack (none / 0) (#3)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Mon Mar 07, 2005 at 04:06:41 PM EST
    Wow, I havent seen blatant "lets hang the cracker with a badge" journalism like this in a long time. I'm glad that your picking it back up TL, I can always use more opportunities through out the day to laugh hysterically in your face. Where to start. Lets start here....
    Milwaukee Police Officer Jon Bartlett has been charged with "terrorizing Frank Jude Jr. with a knife and kicking him so hard in the head that bones crackled."
    Bones crackled, huh? In case your not aware, thats liberal speak for there is nothing medically verifiably wrong with the guy so we'll use some stupid non factual term that nobody can dispute. Moving on......
    Bartlett has been accused of using needless violence against a black suspect. Bartlett "had been accused of using excessive force three times against other black men - one of them fatally - in his five years with Milwaukee police
    This would be lefty speak explaining to you while several crack whores and drug dealers have accused Bartlett of many things, none had any credibility, because otherwise TL would be shouting them from the rooftops, and Bartlett wouldn't have been still a cop to crackle this guys bones.
    How Bartlett got hired for the job is a mystery.
    No TL, this is no mystery. Bartlett got his job by knowing the right people, just like most every other cop has. Didn't you know, thats the easiest way to get a government gig, you have to be in tight with the local corrupt lefties, then your coastin all the way to a union pension. And finally......
    Masarik also has a checkered record, having "used a stun gun on six suspects in 11 weeks last year, the newspaper reported."
    Since when did doing the job your hired for become something gives you a checkered record. I would have to say that if Masarik only used his stun gun six times in 11 weeks, he's lazy. Hell, I'd only want to pay him for the days when he used it. You see TL, despite the fact that you can only think with the left side of your brain, the truth still exists. In this case the truth is that cops are givin stun guns and told when to use them. That is told when to use them, not told when they can use them, there is a difference. Cops are encouraged and even expected to use them, when the situation warrants. So in summation TL, why don't you do us all a favor and actually look into these two cops records a little and throw in a little bit of professionalism, and then tell us what their guilty of instead of what you prejudicially want them to be guilty of.

    Re: Milwaukee Police Accused of Violent Attack (none / 0) (#4)
    by scarshapedstar on Mon Mar 07, 2005 at 04:17:26 PM EST
    Shorter Dagma: The cop can do no wrong.

    Re: Milwaukee Police Accused of Violent Attack (none / 0) (#5)
    by scarshapedstar on Mon Mar 07, 2005 at 04:18:08 PM EST
    Oh, and if he does, it's because of the liberals. You gotta love it!

    Re: Milwaukee Police Accused of Violent Attack (none / 0) (#6)
    by Patrick on Mon Mar 07, 2005 at 04:19:29 PM EST
    Dagma, Not gonna happen. This is T-Chris' normal M.O.. Everyone but the criminals are guilty until proven innocent.

    Re: Milwaukee Police Accused of Violent Attack (none / 0) (#7)
    by bad Jim on Mon Mar 07, 2005 at 05:39:53 PM EST
    Amazing. Two completely unprofessional, out-of-control cops are facing criminal charges and we have commenters rallying uncritically to their side. Oh, well, at least for once they're speaking up for the rights of criminal suspects.

    Re: Milwaukee Police Accused of Violent Attack (none / 0) (#8)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Mon Mar 07, 2005 at 06:27:32 PM EST
    dagma, speaking of crack whores, how's your mom?

    Re: Milwaukee Police Accused of Violent Attack (none / 0) (#9)
    by glanton on Mon Mar 07, 2005 at 06:31:01 PM EST
    Ouch ricky1756, easy. This is a forum for debate. You can do better than that.

    Re: Milwaukee Police Accused of Violent Attack (none / 0) (#10)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Mon Mar 07, 2005 at 06:51:47 PM EST
    I guess I have a bad attitude against the police. It's just because I tried to join the police force, but they found out my parents were married and wouldn't let me.

    Re: Milwaukee Police Accused of Violent Attack (none / 0) (#11)
    by Che's Lounge on Mon Mar 07, 2005 at 07:04:30 PM EST
    Dagma, Your description of Bartlet's accusers is exactly the kind of stereotypical characterization that you are accusing your opponents of. LOL

    Re: Milwaukee Police Accused of Violent Attack (none / 0) (#12)
    by cp on Mon Mar 07, 2005 at 07:06:58 PM EST
    ricky, were they married to each other? that could be the difference you know. dagma, those are quotes from the newspaper article. i know, i know, all newspapers are leftist front organizations for al queda, but still............. i must say though, i have to give you credit: behind that vacant stare lies a consistently empty space. nice to know some things never do change.

    Re: Milwaukee Police Accused of Violent Attack (none / 0) (#13)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Mon Mar 07, 2005 at 07:28:12 PM EST
    aren't vacant stares, one of the signs of being a crack baby?

    Re: Milwaukee Police Accused of Violent Attack (none / 0) (#14)
    by kdog on Tue Mar 08, 2005 at 06:09:00 AM EST
    Dagma has reached new depraved depths. Let this animal work your neighborhood, I want him nowhere near mine.

    Re: Milwaukee Police Accused of Violent Attack (none / 0) (#16)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Tue Mar 08, 2005 at 07:34:01 AM EST
    It's easy enough to attack me thats for sure, after all I hang myself out there everyday for you to do so, but why don't you all try to be brave, credible lefties, and attempt to discredit my arguments. Or would that actually take a little more mental capacity than your capable of? Why don't you start the ball rolling TL?

    Re: Milwaukee Police Accused of Violent Attack (none / 0) (#17)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Tue Mar 08, 2005 at 07:43:44 AM EST
    As Raab says...the pictures tell the story.

    Re: Milwaukee Police Accused of Violent Attack (none / 0) (#18)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Tue Mar 08, 2005 at 08:42:04 AM EST
    dag- give me a break with your one-note "lefty" schtick. You fail to consider the possibility that all is not black or white. I am no lefty, I am no righty, but these two sound like BAD COPS. (As opposed to good ones, Dag.) "does not compute!" (dags head explodes)

    Re: Milwaukee Police Accused of Violent Attack (none / 0) (#19)
    by Sailor on Tue Mar 08, 2005 at 09:22:03 AM EST
    C'mon patrick and trolls, what do you think of this quote: According to one of the first on-duty police officers to arrive at the scene, she "... saw defendant Bartlett put a knife to Jude's neck and say, 'Where's the -- badge? I'm going to kill you if you don't give it up.'" She said she heard someone handcuff Jude and then saw Bartlett "...get up and begin kicking Jude in the head."

    Re: Milwaukee Police Accused of Violent Attack (none / 0) (#20)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Tue Mar 08, 2005 at 09:28:05 AM EST
    Ahhhh........yeah, that was kind of my point Billy, you can make every cop sound bad when you have zero ethics to follow. Why is it that you think TL didn't post one single verifiable fact about the accusations? Why is it that TL didn't post any of the findings from the inquiries into these allegations? In short why do you think TL didn't one single claim that the post makes? Hmmmmmmmm? Like I said before, its a whole lot easier to attack me than it is to be credible with your debate.

    Re: Milwaukee Police Accused of Violent Attack (none / 0) (#21)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Tue Mar 08, 2005 at 09:30:50 AM EST
    In short why do you think TL didn't support one single claim that the post makes? Hmmmmmmmm?

    Re: Milwaukee Police Accused of Violent Attack (none / 0) (#22)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Tue Mar 08, 2005 at 09:56:42 AM EST
    dagma, bones cracked in the head are verified by x-rays.

    Re: Milwaukee Police Accused of Violent Attack (none / 0) (#23)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Tue Mar 08, 2005 at 10:42:30 AM EST
    Dagma, Although I think you have points (that I don't agree with), your writing style is so insulting, combative and generalizing that any possibility of reasonable discourse is DOA as soon as your post hits. Yet you sound so innocent, so offended that everyone you pissed off doesn't stick to the facts. I can't even remember what points you made - I'll have to scroll up and check. But I and others distinctly remember your superior tone and generalized name calling. First you discredit the entire post as some kind of, as you say "lets hang the cracker with a badge" journalism" left wing plot. How does one logically dispute this claim? Then you insult our hostess by saying "I can always use more opportunities through out the day to laugh hysterically in your face". On what planet does this lend itself to a discussion of ideas? Then, after a few more Dagma"isms", you cry innocent by saying
    "It's easy enough to attack me thats for sure, after all I hang myself out there everyday for you to do so, but why don't you all try to be brave, credible lefties, and attempt to discredit my arguments. Or would that actually take a little more mental capacity than your capable of
    I dare you to get back on this thread and say you're not a complete hypocrite, providing supporting arguments, of course. On the other hand, anyone here would be willing to discuss your opinion that the cops are victims of a large left wing conspiracy if you would state your arguments and supporting facts in a way that is not sooooo completely offensive.

    Re: Milwaukee Police Accused of Violent Attack (none / 0) (#24)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Tue Mar 08, 2005 at 11:15:15 AM EST
    Not gonna happen. This is T-Chris' normal M.O.. Everyone but the criminals are guilty until proven innocent.
    could that possibly be that cops and other civil servants are suppose to adhere to the law, and when that trust is violated it becomes abundantly obvious. the guy was handcuffed, what was the kicking about? guess the officer could have been head butted, or kicked at. what no faith in the other officers who arrived and their observations; oh irrelevant since they "break the code of the blue"; were infallible. it's quite easy to surmise the type of law enforcement you practice and prescribe to. you keep up the chorus and cheerleading, though it's to no avail here, signs all of a true coward.

    Re: Milwaukee Police Accused of Violent Attack (none / 0) (#25)
    by jondee on Tue Mar 08, 2005 at 11:58:23 AM EST
    The same group that down-plays Abu Ghraib and Gitmo abuses at every turn. Purely coincidental no doubt. But then,that feeling of power at having a defenseless person - or country - completely at your mercy is hard for some to resist.

    Re: Milwaukee Police Accused of Violent Attack (none / 0) (#26)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Tue Mar 08, 2005 at 12:09:06 PM EST
    Very simple supporting arguments that anyone can follow........MFOX 1. Its difficult to say which came first the chicken or the egg.....but I can say I get as many personal attacks as I make. If you don't like my combative style, oh well, look in the mirror. Or maybe just read the post from Ricky1756 at 07:27. As far as me being offended, pissed off, innocent sounding.......Nope, not pissed off, not offended, nor anything remotely like innocent. 2. Yes I did attempt to discredit the entire post as an "lets hang the cracker with a badge," post, however, had the original post had any substance whatsoever, my attempts would not have been nearly so successful. 3. Yes I do refer to you as lefties. But that is what you are correct. After all this is TALKLEFT. Its called sarcasm. I can understand that you may not like it, but I refer you to point number 1. 4. Yes I insulted the host or TChris, and it was absolutely well deserved. Blogger, journalist, information provider, what ever you want to call it. If you can't stick to some standard of substantiated information then don't complain when people point it out to you. 5. Never cried innocent or anything like it, MFOX, I just simply asked someone to dispute the points I made in the post, and then pointed out that perhaps earlier posters did not dispute them because either they either couldn't because their true or because they lacked mental capacity. I would also like to point out MFOX, that you as well did not dispute one of my points. 6. You might want to reread my original post. No where in it did I refer to any left wing conspiracy against the cops. In fact I would say that things don't look to good for the cops in this case. But again reread my post, and perhaps the second time you might get it. Regardless of whether these cops are guilty or innocent, my point was that TChris's post was a completely unsubstantiated attack, designed to make the cops look guilty. This deserves attack. You see in my opinion, cops deserve the benefit of the doubt. After all we hired them to protect us, we ask them to do a very difficult job, and then we scrutinize their every move. That is the way it should be, but I figure because of it, and so as not to undermine our legal system, the cops deserve the benefit of only being accused of things when the accusations are credible. So there you have it MFOX, your dare accepted. Now any time you want to credibly dispute the points I made, you just step right up and be the first with the capacity to do so.

    Re: Milwaukee Police Accused of Violent Attack (none / 0) (#27)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Tue Mar 08, 2005 at 12:15:12 PM EST
    Ricky, thats crackled bones, not cracked, but crackled. You see my point, Im not sure if crackled bones show up on an X-ray, are you?

    Re: Milwaukee Police Accused of Violent Attack (none / 0) (#28)
    by Patrick on Tue Mar 08, 2005 at 12:32:45 PM EST
    Anon said, "could that possibly be that cops and other civil servants are suppose to adhere to the law, and when that trust is violated it becomes abundantly obvious." Exactly what I was referring to. It's a different standard of judgement. Due process is not a requirement to find cops guilty of misconduct, especially here and especially with T-chris. You read it yourself. One of the cops has a checkered past because he used a taser a bunch of times. Well? Were they legitimate uses? we don't know do we? Was he disciplined for that? Again we don't know. Does he have a prior sustained complaints? We don't know that either. So how do we get to a "Checkered past" based on that? Seems kind of prejudicial no?

    Re: Milwaukee Police Accused of Violent Attack (none / 0) (#29)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Tue Mar 08, 2005 at 01:08:53 PM EST
    i see your point on that one, crackled is pretty meaningless

    Milwaukee Police Accused of Violent Attack | 28 comments (28 topical)