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The Big Bad Bill Passes Senate

Only in Trump’s alternate reality version of America would Congress pass a bill where money is taken from the poor to pay the taxes of the rich

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    I visited my sister today (none / 0) (#1)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jul 01, 2025 at 03:27:56 PM EST
    Her husband and others in her life have been hard core Trump supporters.

    I had the first real conversation with my BIL that I've had since Trump was elected literally minutes after this passed.  He was watching the coverage.

    They understand what this bill means and they are in shock.  Angry and I would say confused,  
    They know local hospitals and nursing homes will close. They know people who will probably get kicked out to the street.

    I was shocked how much they knew about this bill and what it means.  
    If there is another election Republicans are screwed.

    A good sign (none / 0) (#2)
    by jmacWA on Tue Jul 01, 2025 at 03:48:12 PM EST
    IF it holds among a majority of Trump voters.

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    50% (none / 0) (#3)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jul 01, 2025 at 03:51:17 PM EST
    of Medicaid recipients are MAGA.  Just saw that.

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    Don't need the (none / 0) (#5)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue Jul 01, 2025 at 04:02:17 PM EST
    majority of maga. Just 25% of them would be devastating to the GOP.

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    10% (none / 0) (#6)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jul 01, 2025 at 04:10:35 PM EST
    Would be enough

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    My brother on law (none / 0) (#7)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jul 01, 2025 at 04:12:33 PM EST
    is not a person who is always on top of the news.  At all.  If he knows about this, and cares about this, lots of people do.

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    I think (none / 0) (#9)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue Jul 01, 2025 at 05:40:19 PM EST
    that's interesting. There are a lot of other bad things maga doesn't know like the fact that Georgia got electric battery plants that likely now will lay off workers and the electric car plants will be hurting. The country has moved on past coal and oil but Trump thinks he can make it come back with this bill. He literally killed the biggest market for coal with his trade war with China.

    Also our power bills will be going up 30% and with shortages due to AI. Crazy Elon seems to have lost his hold over the GOP. I guess they only liked it when he was destroying things.

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    It felt like an important moment (none / 0) (#11)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jul 01, 2025 at 05:49:51 PM EST
    After we had been talking about the effects and listening to speaker after speaker explain exactly what it means who would be effected Trump came on and just lied. Just lied.  It's only waste fraud and abuse etc.

    I sized that moment to point out he has been lying for years and people just believe it.  Probably when their food stamps and health care disappear they might not believe him anymore. They all agreed.  My sister BIL and another in the process of lawn care.

    It was truly weird.  It was not at all what I was expecting.

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    My husband's (none / 0) (#14)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue Jul 01, 2025 at 07:30:42 PM EST
    cousin is a big Trumper and he's gay and his partner manages a nursing home. I guess when his partner loses his job or the nursing home closes maybe he will quit the cult.

    I NEVER want to hear another whine about the national debt from a conservative ever after all this.

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    Do you know (none / 0) (#8)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue Jul 01, 2025 at 05:34:47 PM EST
    if any of your other maga family members are on the same page?

    I really haven't asked mine because I am afraid steam will come out of my ears if they start the cult BS.

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    I walked in (none / 0) (#10)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jul 01, 2025 at 05:41:20 PM EST
    he was watching the coverage.  On ABC.  

    shrug

    The last time I was there he was watching MEWSMAX.

    I couldn't say how this happened.  And no.  I've spoken to no one else.  


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    Probably (none / 0) (#13)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue Jul 01, 2025 at 07:26:37 PM EST
    getting out of the news bubble they were in got some facts injected.

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    "You should never (none / 0) (#4)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jul 01, 2025 at 03:54:20 PM EST
    say bad things about the dead, you should only say good...  Jimmy Swaggart is dead.  Good."

    Great summation (none / 0) (#12)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue Jul 01, 2025 at 07:24:28 PM EST
    of what the GOP is doing by Rick Wilson:
    Like Jim Jones passing out grape-flavored cyanide in the jungle, Trump is demanding loyalty unto political death...and once again, the red-hatted true believers (and those who play them in Congress) are lining up for their final gulp.

    Except instead of dying in a jungle compound, they're about to die politically in swing districts and suburbs, while trying to explain why they gutted Medicaid to protect tax breaks for billionaires. Before the poison closes their eyes, the pain will show up in polls, town hall meetings, and the tragic deaths of the very people they were elected to represent.