Friday Open Thread

By Jeralyn, Section Blog Related
Posted on Fri Sep 29, 2023 at 11:23:07 AM EST
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It's time for a new open thread. In non-Trump news:

Sen. Diane Feinstein has died at age 91.
El Chapo's youngest son, Ovidio Guzman, has been extradited to Chicago, charged with many crimes, related to cocaine and meth. It's the same 2009 case that began with Vicente Zambada-Niebla, the son of El Mayo, Ismael Zambada-Garcia, who along with El Chapo, led the Sinaloa cartel for many years. Ovidio is charged in the 12th Superseding Indictment in the case. He's pleaded not guilty and is represented by Jeffrey Lichtman, the New York lawyer who was the lead lawyer for El Chapo at his trial, and who then represented El Chapo's wife Emma, who is already done with her prison sentence and back in Mexico with her daughters.
The Washington Post reports Yiddish is making a comeback. I only know a few words, since no one in my household spoke it, but here's a phrase I never heard before: "zolst vaksn tzibbeles im pipik" which translates to: "You should grow onions in your belly button".
It would make a great ending to any post about Donald Trump and his supporters.

This is an open thread, all topics welcome.

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I Still Don't Get It (none / 0) (#1)
by RickyJim on Fri Sep 29, 2023 at 11:48:50 AM EST

I keep reading that a band of 10 MAGA House of Representatives members are preventing an agreement to pass some sort of government spending bill to prevent an immanent shutdown of the US federal government. How is that possible? Shouldn't the bills still pass by 425-10? TIA

The (5.00 / 1) (#4)
by CaptHowdy on Fri Sep 29, 2023 at 01:36:26 PM EST

Hastert Rule


Not "they are never too young" (none / 0) (#5)
by CaptHowdy on Fri Sep 29, 2023 at 03:15:39 PM EST

The OTHER Hastert Rule


According to Wikipedia (none / 0) (#22)
by RickyJim on Fri Sep 29, 2023 at 07:40:19 PM EST

The Hastert Rule is an informal rule and the Speaker is not bound by it; they may break it at their discretion. Speakers have at times broken the Hastert Rule and allowed votes to be scheduled on legislation that lacked majority support within the Speaker's own party. Dennis Hastert alleged the rule as being "kind of a misnomer" in that it "never really existed" as a rule.

In any case, it is another abomination that wouldn't be there if we had proportional representations and more than 2 political parties.


: Never existed as a rule (none / 0) (#23)
by CaptHowdy on Fri Sep 29, 2023 at 08:03:12 PM EST

yet they demand it is enforced on every vote for years.

I (none / 0) (#2)
by FlJoe on Fri Sep 29, 2023 at 12:56:40 PM EST

think there are some poison pills in there that no Democrats will vote for.


: If (none / 0) (#3)
by FlJoe on Fri Sep 29, 2023 at 12:57:50 PM EST

the Democrats agree they will do the same things in 30 days.

The first FLIPPER (none / 0) (#6)
by CaptHowdy on Fri Sep 29, 2023 at 03:24:28 PM EST

First Co-Defendant Takes Plea Deal in Trump's Georgia Election Case

He promises (none / 0) (#7)
by Ga6thDem on Fri Sep 29, 2023 at 03:45:09 PM EST

to testify. I am guessing this is worse news for Kraken.


And considering he (none / 0) (#8)
by Ga6thDem on Fri Sep 29, 2023 at 03:46:38 PM EST

plead to misdemeanors and 5 years probation he certainly doesn't have a Trump financed attorney. LOL.


Don't expect he will be (none / 0) (#9)
by CaptHowdy on Fri Sep 29, 2023 at 03:47:44 PM EST

the last FLIPPER


Like (none / 0) (#11)
by FlJoe on Fri Sep 29, 2023 at 04:41:21 PM EST

this

Fulton County prosecutor Nathan Wade confirmed that district attorney Fani Willis' office would allow attorneys Kenneth Chesebro and Sidney Powell to plead guilty in exchange for lesser sentences, although he didn't offer any details about terms of the proposed agreement, reported Politico's Kyle Cheney.

The (none / 0) (#13)
by FlJoe on Fri Sep 29, 2023 at 04:43:59 PM EST

real question now is who will be the last flipper who escapes jail time.

It's no surprise that a bail bondsman was the first one looking for an escape hatch.


I can't (none / 0) (#14)
by Ga6thDem on Fri Sep 29, 2023 at 04:57:12 PM EST

imagine that any of the other lower level GA defendants are going to get the deal Hall got especially any of the Coffee County defendants. Cathy Latham should just plead to get a lesser sentence in jail and maybe negotiate to serve her time near her home. Shafer would just get a lesser sentence too as almost all the fake electors have pled already.


: Joyce Vance (none / 0) (#24)
by leap2 on Fri Sep 29, 2023 at 10:14:06 PM EST

explains how plea deals are done.

I reading lots of unhappiness (none / 0) (#17)
by CaptHowdy on Fri Sep 29, 2023 at 05:28:38 PM EST

that he got no jail time. No idea how much public opinion effects the decisions but I personally think there should be no more get out of jail free cards.

If there is there will be backlash. But I absolutely expect a run on plea deals.


That guy (none / 0) (#19)
by CaptHowdy on Fri Sep 29, 2023 at 05:57:31 PM EST

has been described as "a lynchpin"

So......


: Scott Hall (none / 0) (#26)
by Ga6thDem on Sat Sep 30, 2023 at 08:19:25 AM EST

is David Bossie's brother in law. That should explain a lot...

: Scott Hall (none / 0) (#27)
by Ga6thDem on Sat Sep 30, 2023 at 08:19:25 AM EST

is David Bossie's brother in law. That should explain a lot...

Yeah, (none / 0) (#20)
by Ga6thDem on Fri Sep 29, 2023 at 07:22:42 PM EST

I get it. I will have to wait and see if this guy's testimony is worth getting out of jail. He apparently did speak with Jeffrey Clark directly. So he may be a more valuable witness than it appears on the surface.


Anyone have reliable information about (none / 0) (#10)
by Peter G on Fri Sep 29, 2023 at 04:04:45 PM EST

how, and how soon, California will get a second U.S. Senator?

Newsom (5.00 / 1) (#18)
by BGinCA on Fri Sep 29, 2023 at 05:44:32 PM EST

Will appoint a replacement. When Harris became VP he took five weeks to appoint Alex Padilla as her replacement. He has pledged to appoint a Black woman as interim Senator who will serve until Jan 1 2025 when they will be replaced by an elected Senator. Rep Barbara Lee who is an announced candidate has said she would not accept the appointment.
Hopefully 5 weeks is an outer limit


This is good at least (none / 0) (#12)
by CaptHowdy on Fri Sep 29, 2023 at 04:41:24 PM EST

GOP Will Let Democrats Replace Feinstein on Judiciary
September 29, 2023 at 5:31 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard Leave a Comment
"Top Republican senators said Friday they won't try to prevent Democrats from replacing the late Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) on the Judiciary Committee after the vacancy left Democrats without a majority on the key panel," NBC News reports.
"Feinstein's death means the key panel that processes President Joe Biden's judicial nominees is now split evenly, 10 to 10, between Democrats and Republicans. A tie vote means a nominee fails to advance out of committee, meaning Democrats would need at least some GOP support to send any potential judges to the full Senate."

Assuming they don't change their "mind"


On social (none / 0) (#15)
by Ga6thDem on Fri Sep 29, 2023 at 04:58:27 PM EST

media there is a push to get Barbara Boxer to fill out Feinstein's term. I think the primary is currently happening.


I really hope social media (none / 0) (#16)
by CaptHowdy on Fri Sep 29, 2023 at 05:25:32 PM EST

has nothing to do with it.

This is from CBS

A potential replacement for Feinstein is California Secretary of State Shirley Weber, a 75-year-old Black woman who was formerly a member of the California State Assembly.

That would be a temp


: That would (none / 0) (#21)
by Ga6thDem on Fri Sep 29, 2023 at 07:23:52 PM EST

be a better pick than Barbara Lee.

: Doesn't (none / 0) (#25)
by FlJoe on Sat Sep 30, 2023 at 05:23:13 AM EST

Susan Rice live in Cali. Qualified and as a bonus tue Goopers heads will explode

Go Terps! (none / 0) (#28)
by Chuck0 on Sat Sep 30, 2023 at 02:44:47 PM EST

25 seconds against Indiana and MD scores.

Shutdown averted according to Huffpost (none / 0) (#29)
by Chuck0 on Sat Sep 30, 2023 at 02:48:10 PM EST

I am not happy about cutting aid to Ukraine.

F the Hastert Rule (none / 0) (#30)
by CaptHowdy on Sat Sep 30, 2023 at 02:49:06 PM EST

This bill passed the House by a vote of 331-97.