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Martin Luther King: In His Own Words

Please take a few minutes today and re-acquaint yourselves with the words of Martin Luther King.

My favorite: "An eye for an eye leaves everybody blind."

Update: Kevin Drum has an excellent post on the biblical meaning of the phrase and how it relates to proportional punishment, not revenge.

CrimProf blog has a roundup of the court cases MLK was involved in, and a link to this letter that he wrote from the Birmingham jail.

Our commemorative post on Martin Luther King, Jr. from last year is worth reading again for the links.

And yes, Gandhi said it first, as we pointed out here, when writing about Kathy Boudin receiving parole.

Let's get over an eye for eye--as Gandhi said, it only leaves the whole world blind. Kathy Boudin has done her time.

and here, when talking about the attempt by the Governor of Minnesota to reinstate the death penalty:

There was no mention of Mahatma Gandhi, who sagely said, an eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind.

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    Re: Martin Luther King: In His Own Words (none / 0) (#1)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Mon Jan 17, 2005 at 01:37:42 AM EST
    Re: Martin Luther King: In His Own Words (none / 0) (#2)
    by pigwiggle on Mon Jan 17, 2005 at 05:30:12 AM EST
    "I have a dream that one day out in the red hills of Georgia the sons of former slaves and the sons of former slaveowners will be able to sit down together at the table of brotherhood."

    Re: Martin Luther King: In His Own Words (none / 0) (#3)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Mon Jan 17, 2005 at 06:33:37 AM EST
    "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character." Right on!

    Re: Martin Luther King: In His Own Words (none / 0) (#4)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Mon Jan 17, 2005 at 06:40:23 AM EST
    Go here to listen to MLK address the most important issue of our day - war.

    Re: Martin Luther King: In His Own Words (none / 0) (#5)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Mon Jan 17, 2005 at 07:21:54 AM EST
    "An eye for an eye leaves everybody blind." Is this King? I am pretty sure Gandhi was the first to use this phrase?

    Re: Martin Luther King: In His Own Words (none / 0) (#6)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Mon Jan 17, 2005 at 07:49:27 AM EST
    It would be nice if those who support Dr. King's ultimate vision of a colorblind society could bring themselves to practice what they preach. That would go a long way toward making it a reality for everyone.

    Re: Martin Luther King: In His Own Words (none / 0) (#7)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Mon Jan 17, 2005 at 08:04:53 AM EST
    "An eye for an eye leaves everybody blind." I recently saw it attributed to Ghandi and I have thought about it everyday since. Isn't that the foundation of both Christ's message and the evolution of democatic ideals.

    Re: Martin Luther King: In His Own Words (none / 0) (#8)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Mon Jan 17, 2005 at 08:05:42 AM EST
    "I'll never let a man drag me down so low as to force me to him him." Booker T. Washington

    Re: Martin Luther King: In His Own Words (none / 0) (#9)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Mon Jan 17, 2005 at 08:06:51 AM EST
    Correction.. "force me to hit him."

    Re: Martin Luther King: In His Own Words (none / 0) (#11)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Mon Jan 17, 2005 at 08:09:43 AM EST
    the arc of history bends toward justice paraphrased. A great man, big heart, big soul. Not perfect, good and great man. We should all do so much good with our lives.

    Re: Martin Luther King: In His Own Words (none / 0) (#12)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Mon Jan 17, 2005 at 08:12:34 AM EST
    He was slow to come out against the Vietnam War. Many in the Civil Rights movement thought that they should stay away from that issue. MLK finally could not remain silent about the war. I lost some respect for him back in those years for his reticence, but I have long since forgiven his reluctance to speak against the war. I think he came out against the war in 67.

    Re: Martin Luther King: In His Own Words (none / 0) (#13)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Mon Jan 17, 2005 at 08:20:53 AM EST
    Dear Martin was a prophet of a pariah nation. His words are as soothing and as sooth-saying now as never before: "Let us rise up tonight with a greater readiness. Let us stand with a greater determination. And let us move on in these powerful days, these days of challenge to make America what it ought to be. We have an opportunity to make America a better nation. And I want to thank God, once more, for allowing me to be here with you." From the "I've Been To The Mountaintop" speech of April 3, 1968. We need you now more than ever, Martin.

    Re: Martin Luther King: In His Own Words (none / 0) (#14)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Mon Jan 17, 2005 at 11:31:48 AM EST
    "I have a dream...of little black girls and little white girls...playing with each other...lets make it happen." Booyakasha!

    Re: Martin Luther King: In His Own Words (none / 0) (#15)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Mon Jan 17, 2005 at 11:47:51 AM EST
    Yes, Ghandi used the phrase as well. It's still my favorite quote from an MLK speech.

    Re: Martin Luther King: In His Own Words (none / 0) (#16)
    by pigwiggle on Mon Jan 17, 2005 at 11:59:29 AM EST
    My mother was convinced Gandhi also said, “With great power comes great responsibility”. I’m fairly sure that is was really Stan Lee. Anyone know for sure?

    Re: Martin Luther King: In His Own Words (none / 0) (#17)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Mon Jan 17, 2005 at 12:06:06 PM EST
    I have a tribute up as well. He is most definitely missed.

    Re: Martin Luther King: In His Own Words (none / 0) (#10)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Mon Jan 17, 2005 at 12:25:08 PM EST
    deleted, disrespectful to Dr. King

    Re: Martin Luther King: In His Own Words (none / 0) (#18)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Mon Jan 17, 2005 at 12:31:44 PM EST
    Just a reminder that off-topic comments will be deleted, as will those that dishonor Dr. King on this day.

    Re: Martin Luther King: In His Own Words (none / 0) (#19)
    by Jlvngstn on Mon Jan 17, 2005 at 12:34:46 PM EST
    Not since Dr. King has one man been capable of unifiying the black voice and building a platform that could invoke serious change in America. America has made great strides since his death but I long for another great black leader that can pick up where he left off........

    Re: Martin Luther King: In His Own Words (none / 0) (#20)
    by Kitt on Mon Jan 17, 2005 at 12:42:55 PM EST
    As they should, Jeralyn. On a theology list I'm on one person talked his plagarising his doctoral thesis, said his name alone made her blood curdle and called him as a***hole undeserving of the honor. Not true. He brought recognition to what needed to be done in this country and still needs to be done as far as race, ethnicity and religious acceptance are concerned.

    Re: Martin Luther King: In His Own Words (none / 0) (#21)
    by Andreas on Mon Jan 17, 2005 at 12:46:15 PM EST
    From an article publsished by the WSWS in 1998:
    King was unquestionably one of the most powerful orators of twentieth century America and a man of great personal courage. He was able to give voice to the passionate strivings of millions of people to throw off the shackles of racial discrimination. Unlike those within today's official civil rights leadership who seek to cash in on his memory, King was an honest man who was not driven by financial gain. ... Martin Luther King, Jr. stood head and shoulders above Jesse Jackson and other charlatans who, in the name of "civil rights," seek privileged positions as advisers and spokesmen for corporate America. Nonetheless, there was a logic to his class program and outlook which led inexorably from the idealism of the 1950s to the political skullduggery of the Al Sharptons of today. In different forms, similar processes of decay have affected not only the civil rights movement, but the trade unions, the feminist and women's groups, and all those organizations which sought to make the profit system more democratic while accepting its basic structure. Given this experience, what is the road forward today in the fight against racial discrimination, as well as the economic and social deprivation facing growing numbers of workers, black and white? The road of King's movement--of appeals for legal remedies and political reforms under capitalism--is clearly a blind alley.
    Thirty years since the assassination of Martin Luther King By Helen Halyard, 4 April 1998

    Re: Martin Luther King: In His Own Words (none / 0) (#22)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Mon Jan 17, 2005 at 01:24:21 PM EST
    TL, A favorite of mine as well did not mean to be too picky just was curious as to who said it. Eli thanks for the link above that is worth a listen for sure!

    Re: Martin Luther King: In His Own Words (none / 0) (#23)
    by kdog on Mon Jan 17, 2005 at 01:28:45 PM EST
    Speaking of African-American history, Will anyone else be tuning in to Ken Burns documentary on Jack Johnson tonight on PBS. Quite a character, Jack Johnson, I'm looking forward to learning more about him, from what I know already, he had some set of juevos.

    Re: Martin Luther King: In His Own Words (none / 0) (#24)
    by jondee on Mon Jan 17, 2005 at 01:54:31 PM EST
    I have a dream that in the future self styled "conservatives"(what CONCRETE things are they conserving?) wont wait until 40 yrs after the demise of a man like King to desist from implying,or, outright saying,that he was some kind of pinko,commie,un-American agitator.

    Re: Martin Luther King: In His Own Words (none / 0) (#25)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Mon Jan 17, 2005 at 01:55:07 PM EST
    "Any religion that professes to be concerned with the souls of men and is not concerned with the slums that damn them, the economic conditions that strangle them, and the social conditions that cripple them, is a dry-as-dust religion."

    Re: Martin Luther King: In His Own Words (none / 0) (#26)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Mon Jan 17, 2005 at 02:33:27 PM EST
    You know who you are.

    Re: Martin Luther King: In His Own Words (none / 0) (#27)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Mon Jan 17, 2005 at 03:45:33 PM EST
    "Wars are poor chisels for carving out peaceful tomorrows." –Martin Luther King, Jr. Dr. King was grudgingly accepted by the establishment. Especially when contrasted with the rhetoric coming from his contemporary, El Hajj Malik El Shabazz (Malcolm X). "They" killed Malcolm when he was about to bring the US in front of the UN for human rights abuses (you see, civil rights is an internal problem and not subject to international scrutiny by sanctioning bodies) for the treatment of Africans. When Dr. King started to question the inordinate amount of poor dying in Vietnam (especially African Americans) "they" took his life.

    Re: Martin Luther King: In His Own Words (none / 0) (#28)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Mon Jan 17, 2005 at 03:57:28 PM EST
    et al - One of the 5 greatest men of the 20th century. As a white sharecropper's son, it is important that we acknowledge that the changes he wrought helped us all.

    Re: Martin Luther King: In His Own Words (none / 0) (#29)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Mon Jan 17, 2005 at 05:56:38 PM EST
    The name is spelt Gandhi. Not Ghandi. And yes, the quote is his; King derived his greatest inspiration from Christ and Gandhi, so it's not surprising he used it. King used to say "Jesus gave me the message, Gandhi gave me the method." [thanks, I fixed it.]

    Re: Martin Luther King: In His Own Words (none / 0) (#30)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Mon Jan 17, 2005 at 06:14:21 PM EST
    28 August 1963, at the Lincoln Memorial, Washington D.C.
    'When the architects of our republic wrote the magnificent words of the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence, they were signing a promissory note to which every American was to fall heir. This note was a promise that all men, yes, black men as well as white men, would be guaranteed the unalienable rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness'


    Re: Martin Luther King: In His Own Words (none / 0) (#31)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Mon Jan 17, 2005 at 06:17:19 PM EST
    My mother was convinced Gandhi also said, “With great power comes great responsibility”. I’m fairly sure that is was really Stan Lee. Anyone know for sure? My daughter has a Spiderman book. Spidey's uncle Ben is the one who tells him that. But did Stan Lee coin it or borrow it? Don't know.

    Re: Martin Luther King: In His Own Words (none / 0) (#32)
    by Ernesto Del Mundo on Mon Jan 17, 2005 at 07:28:12 PM EST
    His most lasting legacy seems to be a whole lot of lip service paid to him and little or no action to make his dream a reality.

    Re: Martin Luther King: In His Own Words (none / 0) (#33)
    by wishful on Mon Jan 17, 2005 at 08:53:01 PM EST
    Ernesto, I agree. And coopted lip service at that, by those whose belief in his dream is as bogus as their desire to "save" Social Security.

    Re: Martin Luther King: In His Own Words (none / 0) (#34)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Mon Jan 17, 2005 at 10:02:32 PM EST
    Dr. King's words have been an inspiration to me for many years. While I appreciate them in print, there is nothing akin to listening to him speak. Today I listened to a sermon he delivered to a church congregation. The sermon was about hope. Hope vs. Desire. We vs. I. Some of the statements lost to the mainstream that were made during the sermon I listened to today....
    "....don't let anyone romanticize the days of slavery." "..no one has suffered like the black man." "...over 75 million were killed..." "...don't let them tell you that they did not resist capture in Africa." "...the slave owners stood waiting between her legs (for babies born into slavery) and gobbled them up like a hungry dog does a bone."
    In my lifetime as a White Southerner, slavery has been excessively downplayed, romanticized, and referred to as irrelevant in the here and now. If I had been old enough in 1964, I am not sure that Dr. King would have allowed me to march alongside him, because I don't believe I could have resisted the urge to strike out at the Rednecks heckling and beating non violent protestors. Whether Redneck(s) or our own government killed Dr. King (and the Kennedys), if the 1960s was truly "Liberal" (which I reject since Cold War proxy battles never ceased, just took a different form) it was surely a societal blip in a data trend leading to the building of a society that places greed on the margins first and everything else second. I'm expecting the Socialist label to be thrown out by the usual crowd here. Go ahead and say it, here was Dr. King's response:
    "A true revolution of values will soon look uneasily on the glaring contrast of poverty and wealth. With righteous indignation, it will look across the seas and see individual capitalists of the West investing huge sums of money in Asia, Africa, and South America, only to take the profits out with no concern for the social betterment of the countries, and say, 'This is not just.'" - Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., April 4, 1967.
    Rest in Peace, Dr. King.

    Re: Martin Luther King: In His Own Words (none / 0) (#35)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Mon Jan 17, 2005 at 11:23:03 PM EST
    28 August 1963, at the Lincoln Memorial, Washington D.C.
    But there is something that I must say to my people who stand on the warm threshold which leads into the palace of justice. In the process of gaining our rightful place we must not be guilty of wrongful deeds
    I wish that all Americans where more like Dr King. I have to say that watching the news tonight and seeing the young black Americans fighting at a celebration for Dr. King. That shows their own lack of respect for a man that gave his life for his people. But I suppose somehow someway it will be my fault that they make bad choices. Americans can be a very selfish lot.

    Re: Martin Luther King: In His Own Words (none / 0) (#36)
    by Ernesto Del Mundo on Tue Jan 18, 2005 at 02:23:02 AM EST
    But I suppose somehow someway it will be my fault that they make bad choices. Huh? Where did that come from?

    Re: Martin Luther King: In His Own Words (none / 0) (#37)
    by Ernesto Del Mundo on Tue Jan 18, 2005 at 02:27:56 AM EST
    King was against the Vietnam War from the git go, so I don't know why that fallacy persists that he didn't come out against it until late in the game. Here's his testimony to the Senate from December, 1966. If he were alive today he would be rather upset that NOTHING HAS CHANGED IN 40 YEARS... The security we profess to seek in foreign adventures, we will lose in our decaying cities. The bombs in Vietnam explode at home--they destroy the hopes and possibilities for a decent America. Beyond the advantage of diverting huge resources for constructive social goals, ending the war would give impetus to significant disarmament agreements. With the resources accruing from termination of the war, arms race, and excessive space races, the elimination of all poverty could become an immediate national reality. At present the war on poverty is not even a battle, it is scarcely a skirmish. . . .

    Re: Martin Luther King: In His Own Words (none / 0) (#38)
    by soccerdad on Tue Jan 18, 2005 at 03:54:08 AM EST
    For me, MLK, JFK and RFK were 3 of the greatest and most influential speakers. All assassinated. I think all had a vision, not necessarily perfect, for making America great. That vision is gone, replaced with a vision completely contrary to theirs and contrary to the ideals we say are important. It has been a descent that has rapidly accelerated with the current bunch of frauds currently in power

    Re: Martin Luther King: In His Own Words (none / 0) (#39)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Tue Jan 18, 2005 at 06:20:07 AM EST
    Ernesto, I don't know how old you are, but I was alive and watching the Vietnam war with the reality of the draft sending me there and I distinctly recall that King was slow to join the anti-war movement. Here's a website from Stanford Note the third paragraph regarding his concern about alienating LBJ. MLK was a great man, incredible speaker. LBJ for all his warts was the guy who passed the civil rights act and a host of safety net laws for this country. MLK was conflicted about coming out against LBJ. The war would continue as long as LBJ was Prez. Eugene McCarthy was the standard bearer for the resistance to the war. RFK and MLK were a little slow out of the blocks. It's a persistent myth because many of us are still alive who remember it vividly as the reality of those times.

    Re: Martin Luther King: In His Own Words (none / 0) (#40)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Tue Jan 18, 2005 at 09:52:09 AM EST
    why is it so hard to get PRO - Life democrats back in the party. Dermocrats have called ex southern democrats idiots,and the issue non-negotiable. Then DR KING is STUPID a bigger abortion foe THERE NEVER WAS. SO if DR.KING is such a hero to democrats ,and he felt that abortion was murder pure and simple. How do we reconcile these facts. We must find a way to get pro-life and choice democrats to the table or winning elections is impossible. I know from sources that the Gop plans to actively erode black support for democrats,by going after anti -semites like Jackson and Sharpton,while talking to blacks about the views of DR King on abortion and homosexuals. This is our challenge,if black support which slipped 22% in 2004 ,splits to just 80-20 in 2008 it will amount to 2% nationally,and democrats will be banished for 30 years.

    Re: Martin Luther King: In His Own Words (none / 0) (#41)
    by kdog on Tue Jan 18, 2005 at 11:49:27 AM EST
    So what skybox, I am against abortion and remain pro-choice. I doubt Dr. King would be in favor of putting women in jail for having one, as much as he may have been against it. Too bad we can't ask him. After watching the Jack Johnson documentary last night, I can't help but think there wouldn't have even been a large scale civil rights movement without Jack Johnson.

    Re: Martin Luther King: In His Own Words (none / 0) (#42)
    by Ernesto Del Mundo on Tue Jan 18, 2005 at 11:50:21 PM EST
    I distinctly recall that King was slow to join the anti-war movement Not to belabor the point, but King spoke out against the war from the beginning (1964-1965), long before RFK found his voice on the issue. Your link mentions this. Yes, there appears to be a period from late 1965 to late 1966 where he was deferring to LBJ...but that ended about October, 1966. Here's a link that has some of the details.

    Re: Martin Luther King: In His Own Words (none / 0) (#43)
    by Deb on Wed Jan 19, 2005 at 03:54:04 AM EST
    Here's one I quoted on my blog, on the day, after having seen and heard him say it on a BBC documentary: Don't let anybody make you think God chose America as his divine messianic force to be - a sort of policeman of the whole world. God has a way of standing before the nations with justice and it seems I can hear God saying to America "you are too arrogant, and if you don't change your ways, I will rise up and break the backbone of your power, and I will place it in the hands of a nation that doesn't even know my name. Be still and know that I am God." It made my blood run cold.