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S.D. Governor Offers to Sign Bill Banning Abortion

By Jeralyn, Section Legislation
Posted on Mon Jan 03, 2005 at 05:46:14 PM EST
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The Governor of South Dakota pledges his support for legislation that would ban abortion: The Associated Press reports here that "Gov. Mike Rounds said he would sign legislation making abortion illegal in South Dakota if the 2005 Legislature passes a bill that meets his inspection." The article goes on to explain that the Governor hopes to provide the U.S. Supreme Court with a vehicle for reexamining its holding in Roe v. Wade.

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    S.D. Governor Offers to Sign Bill Banning Abortion | 20 comments (20 topical)
    Re: S.D. Governor Offers to Sign Bill Banning Abor (none / 0) (#1)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Mon Jan 03, 2005 at 07:02:53 PM EST
    South Dakota's economy is heavily dependent on tourism. I wonder what Gov. Rounds would think about a possible boycott of South Dakota tourism.

    Re: S.D. Governor Offers to Sign Bill Banning Abor (none / 0) (#2)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Mon Jan 03, 2005 at 07:17:12 PM EST
    I am really on the fence on abortion. I don't know of a family member who has ever had one. Which is not to say it may not have happened, but if it did, it was kept pretty darn quiet in this small and chatty family. What if serious limitations on availability of abortion led to a boom in contraceptive science? We may look back on this issue in 20 years and realize that Roe v. Wade was the Dredd Scott decision of the 1970's. I am not saying I feel certain about any of this.

    Re: S.D. Governor Offers to Sign Bill Banning Abor (none / 0) (#3)
    by Ernesto Del Mundo on Mon Jan 03, 2005 at 09:49:10 PM EST
    What if serious limitations on availability of abortion led to a boom in contraceptive science? That would be nice but the fundies are dead set against that as well. You would think that with modern technology, there would be some type of contraception that would make abortion a moot point. I am reminded of the Sam Kinison routine about condoms, something to the effect of..."we could put a man on the moon, but to avoid getting an STD I have to put a balloon on my [penis]?!

    Re: S.D. Governor Offers to Sign Bill Banning Abor (none / 0) (#4)
    by Johnny on Mon Jan 03, 2005 at 10:51:34 PM EST
    Mr. Rounds also shut down a state website based on the recommendation of a high ranking Bishop. Now that Mr. Thune is safely installed in the white house, it is ok for SD conservatives to go around mandating morality for the rest of us.

    Re: S.D. Governor Offers to Sign Bill Banning Abor (none / 0) (#5)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Tue Jan 04, 2005 at 05:14:04 AM EST
    Yes, I know the fundamentalists are against contraceptives. It's amazing that they can still reproduce themselves because they apparently think sex is degrading and of the devil. I suspect they are having sex despite their reservations. I pray they will have the strength to stop. What I am wondering is if they could nonetheless be right about abortion. And as for fundamentalist resistance to contraceptiive science, I view it like flat earth science. Those of us who choose to can still drive right over the edge of the world and not fall off. And aspects of creationism seems right to me. I think we were created. I hope we can evolve.

    Re: S.D. Governor Offers to Sign Bill Banning Abor (none / 0) (#6)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Tue Jan 04, 2005 at 06:39:14 AM EST
    Whatever the outcome, those who can afford it will always have access to abortions. Outlawing them will only affect the poor. I am becoming more and more convinced that the right wants to outlaw abortion to increase their base, the low-income and ignorant who can be easily manipulated.

    Re: S.D. Governor Offers to Sign Bill Banning Abor (none / 0) (#7)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Tue Jan 04, 2005 at 07:17:19 AM EST
    Isn't South Dakota where a lote of the credit card companies have their head office? I wonder, if people started cancelling their credit cards if the credit card company was based in a Jeebo-fascist state, would the Repugnicant misadminstration reconsider their decision to eliminate a woman's right to choose what they can do with their own bodies?

    Re: S.D. Governor Offers to Sign Bill Banning Abor (none / 0) (#8)
    by pigwiggle on Tue Jan 04, 2005 at 07:22:11 AM EST
    Well, at least this is in the realm of state government where it belongs. The down side is, if there are states that allow abortion, the federal government will use the interstate commerce powers to regulate and make uniform policy.

    Re: S.D. Governor Offers to Sign Bill Banning Abor (none / 0) (#9)
    by Che's Lounge on Tue Jan 04, 2005 at 07:56:41 AM EST
    If you're against abortion AND contraception then what is the answer? Abstinence? LMFAO.

    Re: S.D. Governor Offers to Sign Bill Banning Abor (none / 0) (#10)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Tue Jan 04, 2005 at 08:42:19 AM EST
    What if serious limitations on availability of abortion led to a boom in contraceptive science? i think we need to define the term 'serious limitations'. does that mean age restrictions? restrictions based on the circumstances under which the woman got pregnant? limitations based on what point the woman is in her pregancy? age restrictions are difficult because they put young girls at risk. a seventeen year old whose father rapes her and get her pregnant suddenly is trapped. tell my parents and hope they allow me to abort my fathers baby? carry the baby to term? try to get someone to lie for me? or maybe, and this is the really scary option, i can take care of it myself... my friend said she saw someone stop a pregnancy by ingesting chemicals, or with a wire clothes hanger, or with a non-licensed 'doctor'... i don't pretend to have the answer here, but an outright ban, or parental permission laws with no out for cases of incest or rape make no sense to me. retrictions based on the circumstances under which the woman got pregnant make sense only in abstract moral theory. it would be nice to say, 'only in cases of rape or if the mother's life is in danger!' and have that be the law. but in reality... if a woman is raped, would that mean she would have to prove she was raped and that her rapist is the father? proving that a mother's health is at risk is an easier logistical task... but imagine having to wait for your attacker to be convicted before you could have an abortion. that would necessarily, in a lot of cases, force you to carry the baby to term. of all the restrictive ideas i could think of, the idea of restricting abortion based on what term the pregnancy is in makes the most sense. but at what point in the pregnancy does the right to abort end? can we trust our legislators to come to a consensus?

    Re: S.D. Governor Offers to Sign Bill Banning Abor (none / 0) (#11)
    by kdog on Tue Jan 04, 2005 at 09:32:50 AM EST
    I'm sick of prohibitionists, period. It's the same with drugs, alcohol, and abortion. Making it illegal does not stop it from happening, it only brings a slew of new problems.

    Re: S.D. Governor Offers to Sign Bill Banning Abor (none / 0) (#12)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Tue Jan 04, 2005 at 11:14:51 AM EST
    I am really on the fence on abortion. I don't know of a family member who has ever had one. Chances are they aren't going to tell you. I live in the abortion capitol of the universe and all the women I know are still pretty close-mouthed about it. Hell, most women won't even talk about a miscarriage or stillbirth unless you're in the club yourself. Still, Roe v. Wade was more than three decades ago and now you've got a generation of women in their child-bearing years who, even if they paid lip-service to being anti-choice, always knew that they had the option. Or maybe they weren't, like fish aren't aware of water. But if it gets taken away, they will notice.

    Re: S.D. Governor Offers to Sign Bill Banning Abor (none / 0) (#13)
    by karen on Tue Jan 04, 2005 at 11:34:19 AM EST
    Banning abortion is not "fair." Why are they banning it? I want them to ban fertilty treatments too, since it is experimenting on human beings. And completely ban stem cell research. Then maybe the moderates and the millions who have needed fertility help will wake up and stop this insanity. You can't outlaw abortion and then allow freezing embryos, since I was told that almost always, one or more of the frozen embryos don't make it. The only way to go is compromise. A few weeks before viability, abortion allowed, after that, only for grave health threats and life threatening complications.

    Re: S.D. Governor Offers to Sign Bill Banning Abor (none / 0) (#14)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Tue Jan 04, 2005 at 12:18:34 PM EST
    with an abortion ban in south dakota expect more visits to the cowbarn at night by the righteous cowboys

    Re: S.D. Governor Offers to Sign Bill Banning Abor (none / 0) (#15)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Tue Jan 04, 2005 at 03:29:30 PM EST
    I can hear the applause in the White House from here. Be assured, though, that banning abortion will affect more than the poor. The way the middle class in this country are squeezed and screwed more and more, many families will not be able to afford one more child, no matter how much they would love to. And, guess who will be right there with their Faith Based Pregnancy and Adoption services? Your friendly extreme religious right wing "charity" funded by the government.

    Re: S.D. Governor Offers to Sign Bill Banning Abor (none / 0) (#16)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Tue Jan 04, 2005 at 09:32:11 PM EST
    Look at the past; rather than bear a child only to give it up, women will turn to dangerous illegal abortions. Those who can afford it will have safe ones.

    Re: S.D. Governor Offers to Sign Bill Banning Abor (none / 0) (#17)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Wed Jan 05, 2005 at 01:27:42 AM EST
    first they get rid of daschle and now they get rid of MY RIGHTS, screw South Dakota lets give them to Canada, or abort all of them and sell them for stem cells

    Re: S.D. Governor Offers to Sign Bill Banning Abor (none / 0) (#18)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Wed Jan 05, 2005 at 09:20:39 AM EST
    hey now! it is not okay to dismiss an entire state because of a few loons! my family still has a farm in south dakota, and while they are firmly republican they still deserve to have their opinion. plus, you can't abort a living breathing adult - you can only murder a living breathing adult. i'm sure you didn't mean to imply that you'd like to kill of south dakotans. when you say incendiary stuff like that (make jesusland secede, kick the blue states out, etc) you just make things worse. everyone gets an opinion - and if south dakota as a state wishes to outlaw abortion, that is for people in south dakota to decide. that's what 'state's rights' are all about. and they should be preserved. even if it means that a state somewhere is outlawing, or allowing, something you personally abhor.

    Re: S.D. Governor Offers to Sign Bill Banning Abor (none / 0) (#19)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Wed Jan 05, 2005 at 11:00:15 AM EST
    They can ban abortion, but they'll never stop it. My grandmother (born 1901) had the RH factor, and was deathly ill every time she was pregnant. After her fifth pregnancy (c1928) her doctor told her that if she ever thought she was pregnant again to get right over to him and he would "take care" of it. She told me she only had to go to him one time. No, Martha, give SD to Jesusland not CANADA!

    Re: S.D. Governor Offers to Sign Bill Banning Abor (none / 0) (#20)
    by Talkleft Visitor on Wed Jan 05, 2005 at 01:00:27 PM EST
    *sigh*

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