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It's one of those infrequent gray sky days here. So gray that I've turned on all the lights and lamps and it's only 8 a.m.

I think I'll stay in, ride my Peloton and catch up on paper work.

Has anyone noticed the change in Google News? They took away the personalization feature and made it worthless. Google's presumption that it knows what we want to read better than we do is both arrogant and insulting. I've un-bookmarked it.

This is an open thread, all topics welcome.

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    Don. Jr. also met with ... (5.00 / 1) (#2)
    by Yman on Sat May 19, 2018 at 03:26:34 PM EST
    ... reps of Arab princes and an Israeli social media specialist at Trump Tower three months before the election, where they were offering their help to the campaign.

    Don.Jr. says nothing came of it.

    Heh.

    Treasonous...... (5.00 / 2) (#3)
    by desertswine on Sat May 19, 2018 at 04:30:57 PM EST
     Bloody, bawdy villain!
    Remorseless, treacherous, lecherous, kindless villain!

    O vengeance!

    Trump's loyalties lie solely with his wealth.

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    tRump's (none / 0) (#26)
    by FlJoe on Mon May 21, 2018 at 03:45:22 PM EST
    version of the Travelling Wilburys?
    "We learned the president aggressive move is part of a new strategy being pushed by a form of advisers outside of the White House and including Steve Bannon, former campaign manager Cory Lewandowski, former deputy campaign manager David Bossie and president of the Trump Hispanic Advisory Counsel and CNN commentator, Steve Cortes,
    add in Giuliani to complete the quintet.

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    Michael S. Schmidt (5.00 / 1) (#22)
    by KeysDan on Mon May 21, 2018 at 02:01:16 PM EST
    and Maggie Haberman have the front page NYTimes breaking story: "The special counsel hopes to finish by Sept l the investigation into whether President Trump obstructed the Russia inquiy, according to the president's lawyer Rudolph W.  Giuliani, who said on Sunday that waiting any longer would risk improperly influencing voters in November's elections."

    Schmidt, who possesses the world's smallest opening for a mouth, and Maggie Haberman, whom Trump does not know despite all the photos, actually used Guiliani as a credible source for their article.  They deserve all the ridicule that can be laid upon them. Front Page.  Then...as Reuters reports, Guiliani entirely made up the the Sept l date, and the rest of the story was Rudy spin.  

    I gave up on the New York Times ... (5.00 / 1) (#25)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Mon May 21, 2018 at 03:01:37 PM EST
    ... after the 2016 election season, during which its performance can be most charitably described as less than stellar. And they don't take criticism well at all.

    (Whenever I see Times political correspondent Nick Confessore on TV, his demeanor reminds me of a mob lawyer, not unlike George Hamilton in "The Godfather, Part III.")

    What continues to very much bother me about the so-called Paper of Record is its staff's almost complete lack of remorse and contrition for their most glaring mistakes in coverage. Their hostility toward the Clintons has since assumed near-legendary status.

    In particular during the campaign's final weeks, they first misinformed the public about the Trump-Russia scandal by insisting that the FBI had "found no clear link" between the two on October 23, 2016.

    And then, six days later, they hyperhyped then-FBI Director James Comey's announcement that the agency was re-opening the Clinton email investigation, which took up nearly the entirety of the paper's front page that day.

    I gave the NY Times a mulligan for Judith Miller's front-page Iraq schittshow in 2002-03. Not this time. I walked away from them for good.

    And I don't miss them at all.

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    It may end up (none / 0) (#27)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon May 21, 2018 at 03:54:26 PM EST
    Being up to Trump.  If there is a subpoena and he fights it.  

    I don't doubt Rudy made it up.  But I also don't doubt the obstruction part could be reported by the 1st.

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    I (none / 0) (#28)
    by FlJoe on Mon May 21, 2018 at 04:29:20 PM EST
    heard somewhere  that Mueller already as everything wrapped up in the obstruction case except for the interview with tRump. Mueller might be holding it out as a dangle, tRump is crazy and foolish and might jump at the bait, thinking as always that he can bluster his way out of it.

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    I get the feeling (none / 0) (#29)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon May 21, 2018 at 05:03:58 PM EST
    Trump and Rudy think this report will be helpful in the midterms.  That they know Mueller is going to have solid evidence of obstruction.  Heck, the public record is as plain as it gets.

    With that they think they will be able to make the argument that if Trump doesn't have a republican House to cover his sorry azz he is history.

    Which is true.

    I'm just not sure clearly stated and presented evidence of obstruction is going to motivate people as much as they think in the way they think.  It definitely will motivate the dirty 30 but I suspect it may also motivate the remaining 70.

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    In 2006 the horror of Iraq caught Dubya finally (none / 0) (#33)
    by Militarytracy on Mon May 21, 2018 at 08:42:24 PM EST
    And threw him down so hard he still hasn't got up. So many things were shrugged off until there was nothing left in the refrigerator. Trump is Dubya x 10 in incompetency and corruption. Hope it doesn't take 6 years and the world on the brink of financial obliteration or war or both.

    How are we here again? Only worse this time?

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    But Google DOES know what you want, Jeralyn. (none / 0) (#1)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sat May 19, 2018 at 01:19:22 PM EST
    Jeralyn: "Has anyone noticed the change in Google News? They took away the personalization feature and made it worthless. Google's presumption that it knows what we want to read better than we do is both arrogant and insulting. I've un-bookmarked it."

    They know everything about everyone. And they know you'll be back. We'll all be back, because Google knows we just can't help ourselves. Resistance is futile.

    ;-D

    Fahrenheit 451 (none / 0) (#4)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat May 19, 2018 at 07:00:25 PM EST
    The latest such drama to plumb the depths of post-everything paranoia is HBO's adaptation of Ray Bradbury's 1953 sci-fi classic "Fahrenheit 451." The film, which premieres Saturday, is set in a future America shaped by many of the same events that underpin Margaret Atwood's 1985 novel for which the "Handmaid's Tale" series is based. Following a second civil war, Americans have been stripped of most of their rights. Books, films, paintings and other forms of individualist human expression are forbidden and Canada (once again) is the final destination on the road to freedom.

    Its very good.  The updated internet/fake news version almost cuts to close to the bone

    LATrines review

    The review was correct (none / 0) (#7)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun May 20, 2018 at 09:33:07 AM EST
    It would have worked better as a series but it was pretty good.  

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    More door control. (none / 0) (#5)
    by Chuck0 on Sun May 20, 2018 at 09:05:44 AM EST
    That will fix that pesky dead students problem!

    Speaking of doors (none / 0) (#6)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun May 20, 2018 at 09:30:30 AM EST
    i saw this on SNL and did a goog

    Uncertain which will more certainly condemn me to hell.  That I laughed or that I admit I laughed.

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    Yes, Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick, (none / 0) (#8)
    by KeysDan on Sun May 20, 2018 at 10:12:09 AM EST
    felt that the well-patrolled Santa Fe High School had "too many entrances and too many exits."  This is the same Dan Patrick who responded to the shooting at the gay club in Orlando with a tweet quoting the Bible: "God cannot be mocked.  A man reaps what he sows."

    So, it seems God has placed the responsibility for this tragedy at the feet of the high school architect.  Putting in doors and exits just reaps what has been sowed.

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    No doubt (none / 0) (#9)
    by Abdul Abulbul Amir on Sun May 20, 2018 at 10:23:00 AM EST
    Revolver control is the answer.

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    Great idea! (5.00 / 3) (#12)
    by Yman on Sun May 20, 2018 at 03:42:36 PM EST
    Revolvers, rifles, shotguns, semi-automatics - all should have strict regulations and registration requirements - along with ammunition, too.

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    There are... (none / 0) (#20)
    by Abdul Abulbul Amir on Mon May 21, 2018 at 11:46:41 AM EST
    ...already scads of regulations federal, state, and local.

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    Yep (none / 0) (#24)
    by Yman on Mon May 21, 2018 at 02:54:30 PM EST
    ... and they are far too weak.  But if you think it's the number if regulations that matters, I'd gladly agree to cut the number in half if you agree to let the Brady Center write them.

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    Safe storage (none / 0) (#10)
    by KeysDan on Sun May 20, 2018 at 11:07:28 AM EST
    might help, at least as much as the door idea.

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    And once again (none / 0) (#11)
    by Zorba on Sun May 20, 2018 at 02:27:40 PM EST
    I spent Friday cooking and supervising cooking for our food booth, and spent several days before that making baklava.

    I do have a couple of young ones who are learning to supervise others, but a lot of our helpers aren't Greek and need a lot of supervision to produce a good product.  They're learning, but we Greeks have been cooking this stuff since we were quite young.  Plus, three people who said they were going to show up on Friday, didn't.

    Funny (none / 0) (#13)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun May 20, 2018 at 04:48:44 PM EST
    How Trump changed everything for The Onion

    A lot has changed since 2013, when the editors of The Onion got an angry email from Donald Trump's lawyer Michael Cohen.

    Back then, Cohen was an executive vice president at the Trump Organization, and his client was just a TV mogul, still years away from announcing his first serious presidential bid.

    Cohen was fuming over a satirical article published under Trump's name with the headline, "When You're Feeling Low, Just Remember I'll Be Dead In About 15 Or 20 Years." On Trump's behalf, Cohen demanded that The Onion immediately remove the article and apologize.

    "This commentary goes way beyond defamation and, if not immediately removed, I will take all actions necessary to ensure your actions do not go without consequence," Cohen wrote, according to a copy of the email provided to POLITICO. "Guide yourself accordingly."

    Five years later, Trump is in the White House, Cohen is under federal investigation and the article is still on The Onion's website, which many West Wing staffers begrudgingly admit to occasionally reading.



    Aloha from the island of Hawaii, ... (none / 0) (#14)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sun May 20, 2018 at 08:27:24 PM EST
    ... where some of the lava flows in Leilani Estates finally broke out and rolled to the coast yesterday, although a crack in the earth has opened under the eastern flow this morning, so all its lava is pouring back into the wide hole rather tan heading toward the sea.

    One poor guy down in Puna had his leg badly shattered when he was struck by spatter from a lava fountain near his house outside Pahoa. This is why you evacuate when told to do so by civil defense officials. Those "spatters" of molten rock may look small on video, but they can be as big as a refrigerator and weigh as much, too. And by refusing to leave, he put first responders at risk when they had to enter the exclusion zone to rescue him. He's both stupid for having refused to comply with civil defense directives, and lucky that he wasn't killed.

    We've gone down to Pahoa on a couple of occasions to watch the activity, along with countless numbers of others. It's especially spectacular at night. But officials and law enforcement personnel ensure that viewers are kept a very respectful distance from the lava fountaining and sulfur dioxide gas.

    Hope everyone had a nice weekend.

    Boy it sure feels like it's coming (none / 0) (#15)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon May 21, 2018 at 07:43:55 AM EST
    Soon.

    I assume we know about Twitter meltdown yesterday.

    I will not quote but he "demands" an investigation of the investigators.  Rosensteins response seemed more like a short time pasifcer than anything else.

    Manafort is likely to flip soon when his pointless play to get the charges dropped are laughed out of the VA court as they were recently in the DC court.

    It just really feels like it's coming.  Trumps freak out underlines it.

    Going after John Brennan now (none / 0) (#16)
    by Militarytracy on Mon May 21, 2018 at 08:46:25 AM EST
    As the years have gone by I have not been able to discern John Brennan's politics. He seems to be simply an American who believes in democracy and rule of law.

    I used to read that he was a Conservative, and that analysis seemed to be arrived at because he was part of our national security apparatus.

    But he has served the nation consistently and well alongside individuals from all over the spectrum.

    Trump's tweets attempting to politicize John Brennan seem ridiculous to me.

    And nobody except Joy Reid and Neera throws shade at Trump better. I never want John Brennan to point out my character flaws on Twitter. Never

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    I think many people (none / 0) (#18)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon May 21, 2018 at 09:17:27 AM EST
    Have an updated opinion of what conservative means.

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    Yeah, sure (none / 0) (#21)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon May 21, 2018 at 01:27:20 PM EST
    feels that way and Roger Stone apparently is basically spilling the beans on his own impending indictment.

    Not sure I agree with you on Manafort. I still think he will stick it out and go to trial and take his chances.

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    New Starbucks policy (none / 0) (#17)
    by McBain on Mon May 21, 2018 at 09:08:48 AM EST
    Link

    On Saturday the company announced that "any customer is welcome to use Starbucks spaces, including our restrooms, cafes and patios, regardless of whether they make a purchase."

    It added that employees should follow established procedures for "addressing disruptive behaviors," and call 911 in the case of "immediate danger or threat" to employees or customers.

    I can see this working in some neighborhoods but maybe not where there's a large homeless population.

    The nation wide, closed door, ant-bias training day will be on Tuesday May 29th.  

    The Note8 Sucks (none / 0) (#19)
    by Militarytracy on Mon May 21, 2018 at 10:06:41 AM EST
    Phone died right after Christmas. The Note8 was the it thing. I'm not an iphoner. I paid $1,000 for this phone in January and it died Friday night. It is still under warranty, but Samsung is out of picture now, my new phone is arriving from Verizon and it is not new. It is a reconditioned Note8 coming from Verizon.  How in the hell do they already have reconditioned Note8's available?

    I must mail my dead phone back immediately or I will be charged $800. If they find any damage to the dead phone I will be billed $372, any damage, cracked screen, charging port bent, any damage. It isn't even paid for yet and I'm not getting a new phone as a replacement.

    When my face was sad my kind Verizon person patted me and said that everyone must stop needing the it phones between Apple and Samsung. That is leading to terrible customer service for all of us.  He said many of us insist on phones that do things we don't need and most don't use and we need to be giving competitors like LG a look too.

    When I told him that online other Samsung Note8 owners seemed to have the same issue that my phone did, I allowed the battery to completely drain and now it won't charge, he nodded. You can't remove the Note8 battery and place one in it with charge though, I knew I couldn't remove the battery but I told myself it would be okay, they have this all figured out now. It wasn't okay though. They don't have it all figured out. And the kind Verizon employee solemnly nodded and muttered, "their batteries are catching on fire too."

    So....just wishing I hadn't needed the Note8 in January. Doesn't appear to be an easy way out of the $1,000 I got myself into. And according to my kind Verizon employee, a possible fire hazard will exist in my home unless I can get Samsung or Verizon to admit to that and allow me out of the buy in order to get a safer phone.

    I want my cell phone for three things, ... (none / 0) (#23)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Mon May 21, 2018 at 02:15:40 PM EST
    Militarytracy: "When my face was sad my kind Verizon person patted me and said that everyone must stop needing the it phones between Apple and Samsung. That is leading to terrible customer service for all of us.  He said many of us insist on phones that do things we don't need and most don't use and we need to be giving competitors like LG a look too."

    ... and that's phone calls, text messages and emails. Everything else to me is entirely superfluous. The technology that we allow into our lives must exist to serve us. Instead, I see far too many people becoming enslaved by it, as we become self-captivated by the ease with which we can be entertained by our various devices.

    Aloha.

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    Yeah....well this is my new (none / 0) (#31)
    by Militarytracy on Mon May 21, 2018 at 06:55:57 PM EST
    Not new phone Donald. And it has the equivalent of laptop capabilities and I'm feeling all bada$$ again. Addictive damn things!!!!

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    I gave up on the Catholic Church a long time ago (none / 0) (#30)
    by vml68 on Mon May 21, 2018 at 05:31:11 PM EST
    but I will admit to liking Pope Francis a little more everyday.
    Pope Francis tells gay man: 'God made you like that and loves you like that'

    Got my phone kind of set up (none / 0) (#32)
    by Militarytracy on Mon May 21, 2018 at 08:06:26 PM EST
    I hope Josh can help me finish getting this phone managed

    But I'm afraid to read my twitter followings after watching the news.