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Trump Blames Dems For Failure of Health Care Bill

TrumpCare is dead. Republicans, not having enough votes, pulled the bill.

Trump is not "the closer" he thought he was. The Washington Post reports: [More...]

But Trump’s effort was plagued from the beginning. The bill itself would have violated a number of Trump’s campaign promises, driving up premiums for millions of citizens and throwing millions more off health insurance — including many of the working-class voters who gravitated to his call to “make America great again.” Trump was unsure about the American Health Care Act, though he ultimately dug in for the win, as he put it.

There were other problems, too. Trump never made a real effort to reach out to Democrats, and was unable to pressure enough of his fellow Republicans. He did not speak fluently about bill’s details and focused his pitch in purely transactional terms. And he failed to appreciate the importance of replacing Obamacare to the Republican base; for the president, it was an obstacle to move past to get to taxes, trade and the rest of his agenda.

In a press conference I heard some of on the car radio, Trump blamed the Dems, praised Paul Ryan and Tom Price, and said exactly nothing about health care other than repeating his insistence Obama Care would implode.

Big Failure for Donald Trump. The first of many, I'm sure. As for those saying this was his worst week, I'd remind them he has yet to have a good day, let alone a good week. Courts have rejected his major immigration order, his first military raid in Yemen resulted in an American death, and everybody sees Russia from his window.

Jared Kushner got to miss most of Trump's desperation this week, as he left Monday night to join his wife and kids in Aspen and only returned to work today. Although he spent only two and a half days in Aspen, returning last night, CNN reports Trump was angry he left. A Trump spokesman denied it.

Meanwhile, back in Washington, Trump was fuming. According to a source close to the president, "[Trump] is upset that his son-in-law and senior adviser was not around during this crucial week."

...It has not been entirely clear what specific role Kushner, who has no Capitol Hill or Washington background, would have played in a legislative effort.

What difference would his lack of legislative or policy experience make to Trump, who thinks Jared is qualified to bring a peace accord to the Middle East?

At least the plane mystery is cleared up. The Trump kids flew to Aspen on Trump's private 757 plane (which his son Donald called Trump Force One), not Air Force One or a government plane.

When Ivanka and the kids took off for Aspen last weekend, sharing a ride on Trump's private 757 jet with Donald Trump, Jr. and his family and Eric and Lara Trump, Jared did stay behind in Washington

Trump or Pence seem to have some future Vail/Aspen trips planned however, as the Air Force was back at Eagle County Airport this week practicing their 757 maneuvers "for all things presidential." It turns out, Air Force One is not a plane at all, it's just a call sign:

Also, those aircraft are not actually Air Force One unless the president is on board. It’s not Air Force Two unless the vice president is on board, [airport manager Alex]Everman said. Air Force One is not a plane; it’s a call sign the Air Force uses when POTUS is on board.

Finally, who made Ivanka's sunglasses? The Daily Mail says they are Raybans ("Almost as eye-catching as her colorful top were the $510 high-waisted wide-legged patchwork jeans by Sonia Rykiel worn by the first daughter, who finished off the look with some iridescent Ray Bans...") while CNN says they are by Dior and cost $585. I'll go with Dior Technoglogic, in gold, for $585 (which I think look great on her.) (Added: The Daily Mail has now updated their article to include an ad for the Dior Technologic sunglasses, so I guess they realize they are not "Ray Bans").

I think Ivanka looks better wearing other designer's clothes than her own, which I'm not a fan of. She's recently hired a new stylist to revamp her wardrobe for her new duties in the White House (whatever they are) who hopefully will steer her away from her own designs. The stylist has great taste and I look forward to seeing a more polished look from Ivanka than the dresses and shoes in her own line.

Here's Vanity Fair on Jared and Ivanka's predictable absence from Washington this week.

And yes, with three kids, they brought their Nanny to Aspen. You can see her in this photo from the Daily Mail. They've had a Chinese nanny (who teaches Arabella Mandarin) since Arabella was born. Here is a 2012 interview with Ivanka on the topic. "My daughter is studying Mandarin; I have an incredible Chinese nanny who's teaching her." Vogue Magazine spent a day with Ivanka in 2015 and reported her name is XiXi. Here's Ivanka and a nanny in 2011, and Ivanka, Jared, Arabella and a nanny in 2015. I have no idea if they are the same woman. But rest assured, despite the dozens of photos showing just Ivanka and Jared with their kids and secret service, traveling to Aspen with three children, including an infant too young to ski, is not something they are likely to do without at least one nanny in tow.

The Kushners' Washington neighbors are now royally p*ssed off at Secret Service presence on their block. They point out this isn't to protect a President, but a rented house for Trump's adult children:

“Are you kidding me?” asked Marti Robinson, a trial attorney who lives across the street. “This is the adult child of the president. Sometimes there are 10 cars out here.”

Metal barricades along Tracy Place and Kalorama Road now make it impossible for pedestrians to use the sidewalk bordering the house. Neighbors talk of clusters of Secret Service agents lingering on the pavement, conversing in loud voices and even changing their shirts in public view.

“They’ve completely taken over the whole street — as if they have the authority!” said Robinson, an Obama appointee to the U.S. Product Safety Commission. In her own email to the mayor, Robinson wrote that the Secret Service encampment “has truly ruined my peaceful enjoyment of my house.”

Also today, Planned Parenthood zinged Ivanka for not speaking out in defense of women's health care and against Trump's failed health care bill, which would have defunded Planned Parenthood.

In any event, I'm hardly surprised the health bill failed. I didn't take it as a serious threat the day it was introduced, and nothing's changed my mind. Trump is not the successful closer he thinks he is. He failed big-time, and as is so characteristic of him, can't even accept any blame. It's always someone else's fault.

Which is why this thread is as much about Trump's kids and their trip to Aspen and their clothes and nannies as the failed bill. Failure was predictable and the bill's defeat just isn't very interesting to me, since it wasn't a real threat to begin with. I'm far more interested in how much protecting Trump's adult kids costs, and how despite their lack of one iota of domestic or foreign policy experience, he is asking them to guide him in running the country. How pathetic.

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    the whole thing (5.00 / 2) (#4)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Mar 24, 2017 at 08:32:21 PM EST
    feels more like a Royal Court than a White House staff.

    I don't think that El Trumpo... (5.00 / 3) (#9)
    by desertswine on Fri Mar 24, 2017 at 08:42:37 PM EST
    even knew what was in that un-healthcare bill, nor did he give a crapola.

    totally (none / 0) (#10)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Mar 24, 2017 at 08:44:46 PM EST
    totally clueless.  what they were pushing late last night was grim.  he wanted a bill.

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    I'm on the way to the gym (5.00 / 1) (#23)
    by fishcamp on Sat Mar 25, 2017 at 07:42:02 AM EST
    after a long layoff.  I'll let you know what they say.

    The awakening: (5.00 / 3) (#27)
    by KeysDan on Sat Mar 25, 2017 at 09:23:16 AM EST
    "I never thought leopards would eat my face, sobs the man who voted for the Leopard's Eating People's Face Party."

    one thing i hear that really rubs my rhubarb (none / 0) (#32)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Mar 25, 2017 at 11:05:29 AM EST
    is that the fact that large numbers of people didnt umderstand that "Obamacare" was providing their health care is somehow a "failure of The Obama admisistration to "communicate" the law"

    horse sh!t

    if you, after living trough 2008-9, do not understand you are getting your healthcare from the Afordable Care Act you are an idiot. full stop.  you are a waste of space and a blight on the gene pool and that is not the fault of the Obama administration.

    i took a vituperative pleasure watching the faces of some of these people when the question - a question ive heard a LOT recently - "is this going to effect ME??" was asked and answered

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    Honk, (5.00 / 2) (#29)
    by KeysDan on Sat Mar 25, 2017 at 10:08:02 AM EST
    if you are tragically unqualified. "We will immediately repeal and replace Obamacare and nobody can do it like me.  We will save $'s and have much better health care."

    It "will be so easy!" (5.00 / 1) (#30)
    by Yman on Sat Mar 25, 2017 at 10:32:56 AM EST
    The times that Trump claimed repealing Obamacare would be "so easy", his plan would mean healthcare for everyone at a fraction of the cost, he would repeal it immediately and he's the only one who can do it.

    Now he claims he never said it.

    Wonder if his supporters are ever going to acknowledge his perpetual false claims?


    Quite frankly I never understood (none / 0) (#1)
    by fishcamp on Fri Mar 24, 2017 at 08:28:23 PM EST
    how they could replace Obamacare with nothing care.  I'm soo glad I made it out of Aspen before the Trump clan arrived.  As I've mentioned before, I used to ski with Ivana Trump, who was both a very good skier, and a genuinely nice person.

    As well as astute enough to Dump Trump (5.00 / 1) (#8)
    by Mr Natural on Fri Mar 24, 2017 at 08:38:45 PM EST
    she's also (none / 0) (#3)
    by Jeralyn on Fri Mar 24, 2017 at 08:30:06 PM EST
    great looking and has terrific poise. But she doesn't belong in an advisory role in the White House. It's far beyond her skill set and running America isn't for people still riding bikes on training wheels.

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    he said (5.00 / 1) (#5)
    by linea on Fri Mar 24, 2017 at 08:35:43 PM EST
    ivana trump

    not his daughter ivanka.  but seriously, given ivanka vs donald? who woudnt want ivanka as president over her dad?

    Ivana Marie Trump is a Czech-American businesswoman, author, socialite, and former fashion model. She was the first wife of Donald Trump. (Wikipedia)


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    I wouldn't (5.00 / 1) (#16)
    by Yman on Fri Mar 24, 2017 at 09:23:33 PM EST
    Neither one is remotely qualified to do anything in government, let alone be President.

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    I can't tell if this is good or bad (none / 0) (#2)
    by McBain on Fri Mar 24, 2017 at 08:29:25 PM EST
    It should be good for me in the short run.  I live in California, so I'll probably be able to take advantage of some Obamacare tax credits next year.  But what about the other states where it isn't doing so well?  

    I doubt The ACA will "explode" like Trump and other predict but I do think there will be some serious problems.  Will more providers drop out?  I just want to know what my options will be like in the near future.  

    Everyone is going to pick a side and blame the other for this mess. I blame both parties.    

    the democrats give you health care (5.00 / 5) (#6)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Mar 24, 2017 at 08:36:25 PM EST
    the republicans do everything they can to first stop you from getting it and then to take it away and ultimately are only thwarted in that effort by their own incompetence.

    yeah

    it totally makes sense to "blame both parties"

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    The Republicans had 7 years (none / 0) (#13)
    by McBain on Fri Mar 24, 2017 at 09:14:34 PM EST
    to come up with a decent replacement and couldn't do it.  I blame them for that.  

    The democrats forced the ACA down our throats.  It's been good for the poor and those who choose not to work hard but bad for the middle class.  I blame them for that.

    At some point both parties are going to have to come together and come up with a long term solution.

     

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    Both sides do it (5.00 / 1) (#33)
    by Repack Rider on Sat Mar 25, 2017 at 11:18:11 AM EST
    Everyone is going to pick a side and blame the other for this mess. I blame both parties.    

    The Republican Party had seven years to create their health plan and explain it to the public.  With that much time and passion devoted to a single subject, you would think they would write something down.  You would think there would be thousands of pages of analysis and the plan would be honed to a razor edge.  Everyone would be on the same page, they would have held dozens of meetings and seminars, and anyone in the party could explain in detail why their plan was better.

    The Republican plan turned out to be complaining about the features of Obamacare that were compromises to get enough votes to pass it, and holding 60 symbolic repeal votes, safe in the knowledge that they would be met with a veto.

    This is more than a political setback.  It is a metaphor for politics of image over ideas, and automatic objections to anything proposed by the other party. It is the difference between using the power of government to help people, and using that power against them.  Mr. Obama spent years hammering out a plan and most of a year getting it through Congress.  Pinning his name on it was originally supposed to be an insult, but now it is a triumph.

    Mr. Trump now crows, "The Democrats OWN Obamacare!"  Please, that was what you ran on.  It's not like we didn't know it.  But thank you for reminding everyone.

    Mr. Obama and a Democratic majority created something that is a long way from perfect but a decided improvement.  They spent years working on it.  The campaigned on it and they got it passed.

    The GOP now owns the halls of power, and can't find the light switch. They don't do homework and they don't seem very smart.

    This contrast will make it difficult for the media to pretend that "both sides" are somehow equal, but I'm sure they are up to the challenge.

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    It will be interesting to see who takes (none / 0) (#36)
    by McBain on Sat Mar 25, 2017 at 11:45:25 AM EST
    most of the blame if Obamacare fails as some predict. I agree with most of your criticism of Republicans on this but I don't think the Dems are blameless.


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    the difference (none / 0) (#37)
    by mm on Sat Mar 25, 2017 at 11:49:24 AM EST
    the president is actually cheering for it to fail.  what kind of monster does that?  If you see something that has problems, the adult thing to do would be to put your blood sweat and tears to fixing it.

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    Different philosophy (none / 0) (#40)
    by McBain on Sat Mar 25, 2017 at 12:11:49 PM EST
    Sometimes you have to tear an old building down to build a better one.  Sometimes you just need to make minor improvements.  

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    Sometimes you have to PRETEND ... (5.00 / 1) (#41)
    by Yman on Sat Mar 25, 2017 at 12:20:03 PM EST
    ... the existing building is failing and then refuse to maintain it while promising tenants that you're going to give them a building that's "so much better!" at a "fraction of the cost!" - then just evict 24 million of them a few years later.

    Trump has experience doing that in the figurative and literal sense.

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    Well, the frontal assault is over... (none / 0) (#39)
    by desertswine on Sat Mar 25, 2017 at 11:55:47 AM EST
    but now is the time to guard the flanks.

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    i havent had healthcare (none / 0) (#11)
    by linea on Fri Mar 24, 2017 at 08:46:16 PM EST
    for over a year. i just paid the penalty for last year. was going to get healthcare for 2017 as the penalty is being raised and there wasnt enough of a difference. but the newly elected president stated that he was eliminating the tax penalty. i also keep hoping i'll get a real job with healthcare. i dont mind paying cash for doctors visits and in WA state pharmacists can prescribe birthcontrol and i love the costo pharmacy and have an uninsured discount. but i do worry about an unexpected medical catastrophe.

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    Truthfully (5.00 / 2) (#12)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Mar 24, 2017 at 09:10:38 PM EST
    if none of us ever had medical catastrophes none of us would ever have insurance. The possibility of something completely wiping you out is why you buy insurance in the first place. I hope you can continue in good health.

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    thank you! {{ }} (none / 0) (#14)
    by linea on Fri Mar 24, 2017 at 09:15:09 PM EST
    Trumpocalypse Now (none / 0) (#7)
    by Mr Natural on Fri Mar 24, 2017 at 08:37:31 PM EST
    needs a new soundtrack:  My suggestion: The Dead Kennedys: Kill the Poor

    There's not much to discuss.  President Trump embodies the biggest case of hubris ever.  Ever.

    There's only one song that's appropriate ... (none / 0) (#20)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sat Mar 25, 2017 at 06:52:34 AM EST
    ... for a country that Rick Rolled itself last November.
    ;-D

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    Trump Thinks Obamacare Will "Explode" (none / 0) (#15)
    by RickyJim on Fri Mar 24, 2017 at 09:17:48 PM EST
    on its own.  Of course he and HHS Secretary Price plan to help that happen.  This Bloomberg report gives some of the weapons they have available.  Of course there may be bad political consequences of such an agenda, and law suits to boot.

    Doesn't he mean (none / 0) (#17)
    by Peter G on Fri Mar 24, 2017 at 09:35:46 PM EST
    "implode"? I what sense would the PPACA "explode"?

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    I believe he said both impolde and explode (none / 0) (#19)
    by McBain on Sat Mar 25, 2017 at 01:23:33 AM EST
    Like a collapsing star becoming a supernova.  I'm OK with most of Trump's comments but he's definitely not a wordsmith.

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    Let's have a thread on whether ObamaCare will work (none / 0) (#18)
    by Green26 on Sat Mar 25, 2017 at 12:37:38 AM EST
    Assume the Repubs will get their act together and come up with Plan B, but if not, I don't think ObamaCare will work. Think it's going to fail.
    Too many exchanges failed. Too many insurance companies leaving the market. Premium costs going up. Cost reimbursements for Medicare too low, to keep enough medical people in the business.

    Also, is anyone posting here paying anything for ObamaCare? Anyone paying the .9% wage tax, or the 3.8% investment income tax? Or, are we just playing with someone else's money? Isn't ObamaCare paid for with these taxes and reductions in reimbursements for Medicaid?

    How about an actual discussion with no snipping or name-calling.

    I don't think Obamacare (5.00 / 4) (#21)
    by Yman on Sat Mar 25, 2017 at 07:17:54 AM EST
    ... is failing or in a "death spiral" - they're just Republican talking points.  The Republicans might be able to do enough without legislation to cause a crisis, but not on is own.

    I personally don't pay either tax, but it wouldn't change my position on the issue.  The fact that someone making over $200K will have their investment income taxed at a slightly higher rate which is still much lower than the rate many pay for their wage income is not a problem.   Moreover, it's tax revenues, not "other people's money".

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    It will probably work in some states (none / 0) (#31)
    by McBain on Sat Mar 25, 2017 at 10:51:39 AM EST
    and not others.  

    I assume I've been paying for other people's subsidies, which makes me want to take advantage of any I might qualify for.

    The problem with the current income based subsidies/tax credits is some of that goes to people who choose not to work or not to work very much.  I don't know to fix that.

    The old system wasn't fair to people with pre existing conditions. Obamacare might have gone to far in the other direction.

    There has to be a way for poor people to get decent care and the middle class not to have ridiculous premiums without a huge tax burden on everyone.  

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    Captain Obvious (none / 0) (#34)
    by Repack Rider on Sat Mar 25, 2017 at 11:32:03 AM EST
    There has to be a way for poor people to get decent care and the middle class not to have ridiculous premiums without a huge tax burden on everyone.  

    There must be a way, since EVERY OTHER INDUSTRIAL NATION has found it.

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    Then what's your solution? (none / 0) (#35)
    by McBain on Sat Mar 25, 2017 at 11:40:09 AM EST
    For good healthcare without big taxes?  

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    Well... (5.00 / 1) (#38)
    by Repack Rider on Sat Mar 25, 2017 at 11:53:57 AM EST
    Then what's your solution?  For good healthcare without big taxes?  

    If we eliminate the 40% of our health care expenditures that do nothing but make money for middlemen and extortionists, that will cut costs tremendously, won't it?

    My wife and I pay $600 a month for medical insurance, and most of that is raked off as profit for people who do none of the medical care.  I'm happy to pay less than that on my taxes to get coverage for us and everyone else.

    Single payer works everywhere it is used, i.e. every other industrial nation.  The "solution" then is to do what everyone else does, since it clearly works.

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    GOoPers seem (none / 0) (#22)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Mar 25, 2017 at 07:39:33 AM EST
    downright shellshocked

    Best statement (none / 0) (#24)
    by Ga6thDem on Sat Mar 25, 2017 at 08:09:54 AM EST
    on this whole thing I read was "we thought we had a mandate".

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    My favorite (5.00 / 2) (#26)
    by Yman on Sat Mar 25, 2017 at 08:48:48 AM EST
    From Sen. Menendez on Twitter:

    "Hey Republicans,  don't worry,  that burn is covered under the Affordable Care Act."

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    Josh Barrow (none / 0) (#25)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Mar 25, 2017 at 08:16:58 AM EST
    "after lying about healthcare for decades the republicans are about to get the punishment they deserve"

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    And Barton (5.00 / 1) (#28)
    by Ga6thDem on Sat Mar 25, 2017 at 09:27:38 AM EST
    admitting that whole exercise in voting to repeal Obamacare was more or less just a fleece the rubes operation.

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