Sunday Night Open Thread

I can't think of a time our country has been in worse shape. Between the pandemic and Donald Trump, it will take a generation at least -- well beyond my life span -- to regroup and recoup what we had that went down the drain with Trump's ineptitude and inability to believe in anything outside the bubble of his alternate universe built on false facts.

I had hoped that he would have quit by now. Instead, he's making himself more of a laughing stock, "here and anround the world" (as CNN would say).

Why isn't someone directing the FAA to shut down air traffic for Thanksgiving week? Could it be Donald Trump wants as many of us to die as possible as revenge for his election loss? Even he isn't flying to Mar-a-Lago on AF One for the holiday. That ought to tell you something. (Yes, maybe he's afraid his "things" will be gone when he gets back, but what does he own at the White House beside his clothes and the mattress he had shipped in? Doesn't the rest belong to the Government? Answer: I have no idea, which is why I'm asking the question.)

This is an open thread, all topics welcome.

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    Question (5.00 / 5) (#8)
    by Repack Rider on Sun Nov 22, 2020 at 08:52:39 PM EST
    Who wears a red hat and hates Nazis?
    Santifa Claus.

    I think the country is spending too much time (5.00 / 1) (#11)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Nov 23, 2020 at 06:11:26 AM EST
    worrying about this -

    A new Seven Letter Insight poll finds 56% of voters who backed President Trump in the election don't believe their vote was recorded accurately.

    Seriously, so what.  These are the same people who never believed Obama was an American or a Christian.  Who cares what they think.  Every minute we spend wringing our hand about this is a minute they win.  Their "belief" is not required.

    This is true only if we allow it -

    "I am the most fabulous whiner. I do whine because I want to win. And I'm not happy if I'm not winning. And I am a whiner. And I'm a whiner and I keep whining and whining until I win."

    -- Donald Trump, interviewed by CNN in August 2015.

    Done (none / 0) (#33)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Nov 23, 2020 at 05:17:37 PM EST

    The General Services Administration has informed President-elect Joe Biden that the Trump administration is ready to begin the formal transition process, CNN reports.

    Now for something completely different... (5.00 / 1) (#26)
    by desertswine on Mon Nov 23, 2020 at 03:22:47 PM EST
    Wildlife resource officers counting sheep in Utah came across a strange metallic monolith in the desert.  Maybe trump is planning on going back where he came from.

    I understand (none / 0) (#1)
    by Ga6thDem on Sun Nov 22, 2020 at 04:30:10 PM EST
    that the Trumps can take what they brought with them like clothes and any gifts that were given to them but everything else stays.

    Count the (5.00 / 3) (#2)
    by KeysDan on Sun Nov 22, 2020 at 05:11:16 PM EST
    silverware and check his pockets for spoons.

    Fix the Rose Garden (5.00 / 1) (#14)
    by MKS on Mon Nov 23, 2020 at 07:36:28 AM EST
    Change it back to colorful instead of Melania's frozen white scheme.

    What they should (5.00 / 2) (#29)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Nov 23, 2020 at 03:45:04 PM EST
    do is contact the descendants of every first lady and have them pick a rose to represent them. Of course the living first ladies could pick their own.

    If they can't restore the rose garden they certainly need to do something to get rid of the Marriott hotel entrance design with something special and unique. After the horrible Christmas decorations, we all knew Melania would screw up getting rid of the rose garden.


    That is a great idea (none / 0) (#30)
    by MO Blue on Mon Nov 23, 2020 at 03:53:17 PM EST
    I hope that they pursue that idea.

    Wasn't the idea of the other rose garden (none / 0) (#18)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Nov 23, 2020 at 09:21:09 AM EST
    that some were planted by each First Lady.  Or something like that.

    To late for them.

    But they should change it just to remove the Trump stench.


    Biden is going to have to (none / 0) (#9)
    by desertswine on Sun Nov 22, 2020 at 09:41:13 PM EST
    fumigate the place.

    Indeed. I've always thought (none / 0) (#22)
    by leap on Mon Nov 23, 2020 at 10:36:48 AM EST
    Trump smells foul, a rank, rotten sour odor. And that he tries to cover up that total body stench with cheap cologne or Axe for Teenage Boys. And that mix of fetid miasma carries into all the halls and corridors and office nooks in the White House. And the "Living Quarters..." My god. Are there enough windows in that place that can open up and let in fresh air? Is the ventilating system equipped with industrial HEPA filters? Biden's hazmat crew will need to install ozone generators everywhere Trump's mob of malodorous bootlickers have moved and touched.

    What an awful job to do.


    I wondered that too (none / 0) (#3)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Nov 22, 2020 at 05:23:47 PM EST
    If he was not leaving fir the holiday because he was afraid he would return to find his baggy suits extra long ties and golf clubs piled in the driveway.

    I think there is going to be a growing chorus next week about letting the transition begin at least.  Biden plans to announce cabinet picks on Tuesday.  The FBI background checks can't happen until it's official.

    I am (none / 0) (#4)
    by Ga6thDem on Sun Nov 22, 2020 at 05:34:05 PM EST
    kind of surprised that he didn't leave and go to Mar A Lago and just stay there but maybe that is the Christmas plan.

    Why can't he just get in the running car? (none / 0) (#10)
    by desertswine on Sun Nov 22, 2020 at 09:42:59 PM EST
    Wheels are coming off (none / 0) (#5)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Nov 22, 2020 at 06:35:52 PM EST
    Ironically, the conspiracy-minded and (5.00 / 2) (#7)
    by Peter G on Sun Nov 22, 2020 at 07:56:14 PM EST
    fact-reckless Sidney Powell is probably their best appellate lawyer, particularly since the team from Jones Day withdrew. (The Jones Day firm is lousy with extreme Tr*mpsters, but they tend to be excellent lawyers, on the technical level.) Before she entered private practice, Powell was chief of appeals for two different Texas federal prosecutors' offices. (Maybe that's where she learned to railroad her adversaries and their clients without regard for the truth. In fact, she wrote a rather successful book about how often federal prosecutors are unfair and dishonest.) Unless Dersh rises from his cave to come back in. He was also renowned as an appellate lawyer, albeit a publicity hound, before he drifted toward Right Wing political posturing.  

    This is really funny and sad at the same time (5.00 / 1) (#13)
    by MO Blue on Mon Nov 23, 2020 at 07:35:10 AM EST
    John Fetterman quipped that (none / 0) (#12)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Nov 23, 2020 at 06:13:18 AM EST
    the only news from that Powell story is that the Trump legal team has developed "standards"

    Havoc (none / 0) (#6)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Nov 22, 2020 at 06:39:36 PM EST
    don't forget about GOP Senators as well. (none / 0) (#15)
    by Chuck0 on Mon Nov 23, 2020 at 08:38:51 AM EST
    He took shots are Pat Toomey (R-PA) yesterday.

    This has to be said. In my 61-1/2 years on this planet, I have never felt the degree of contempt for a single person as I do this worthless SOB that is taking up space at 1600 PA Ave. He is a $cumbag, so he assumes everyone else is as well. He is low, dishonest, dishonorable and without any redeeming qualities. So he sees the rest of the world as being like him.

    He couldn't be more wrong about the rest of the world.


    Yes (5.00 / 2) (#17)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Nov 23, 2020 at 09:11:00 AM EST
    I think he is shocked and surprised that "Trump" judges are ruling against him.  I think he believed all those judges Mitch rammed through would give him a permission slip because he picked them.

    Which is a great illustration of what you said.  He really can't comprehend the idea of doing your constitutional duty.



    Finally (none / 0) (#16)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Nov 23, 2020 at 08:58:51 AM EST
    I hate spending money (none / 0) (#21)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Nov 23, 2020 at 10:15:36 AM EST
    on stuff like septic tanks.  You never get to say, hey, check out my new septic tank.


    check out my new septic tank


    Looks like a good sized septic tank. (none / 0) (#24)
    by fishcamp on Mon Nov 23, 2020 at 03:09:11 PM EST
    Hope the installation, hook up, and leach field tasks go well.  Pretty work Howdy.

    Hooked up (none / 0) (#25)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Nov 23, 2020 at 03:21:18 PM EST
    and buried

    I'm feeling the need for a long shower.

    1000 gallons is code.  

    A new septic system is a very big selling detail around here.  So there's that.  One of these days I'll sell this an buy a condo.  There are some very cool ones around.


    Trump is the virus (none / 0) (#19)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Nov 23, 2020 at 09:24:47 AM EST
    Seattle Times: "Loren Culp lost Washington's gubernatorial race by more than 545,000 votes, but he's not conceding -- and says he's not going away."

    "Culp, the Republican who took 43% of the statewide vote against Gov. Jay Inslee, has taken a page from President Trump's playbook by attempting to sow doubts about the election results and lobbing unsubstantiated claims of voter fraud."


    You know, if the Republicans ... (5.00 / 2) (#23)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Mon Nov 23, 2020 at 01:06:57 PM EST
    ... had devoted as much time and effort toward at least an attempt to combat the COVID pandemic, as they have in pursuit of various crackpot conspiracy theories and sham investigations, perhaps we would have all been able to spend the upcoming holidays with our families, rather than plan to share the experience vicariously through Zoom and Skype.

    And also Donald, (none / 0) (#27)
    by fishcamp on Mon Nov 23, 2020 at 03:34:24 PM EST
    we could have visited the Hawaiian islands.  It used to be great fun to leave Aspen at 0 dark thirty for denver, and the ride to LA and on to Hawaii.  We were young.  Then the island hop began, visiting friends, and partying, on the outer islands, and of course, leaving items along the way because you were coming back.  Finally, weeks overdue, I would arrive home, freezing, broke, with my parka and boots still in Kauai.  But you're right they should have done better.

    United flies nonstop between DEN and HNL. (none / 0) (#32)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Mon Nov 23, 2020 at 04:15:25 PM EST
    Any time I can avoid a connection, I'll do so. That's kind of hard to do from Hilo, where 95% of all flights are to and from HNL. But at least United flies nonstop to LAX and SFO from here.

    I did not know that (none / 0) (#34)
    by Jeralyn on Mon Nov 23, 2020 at 05:48:45 PM EST
    you could go non-stop from Denver to Honolulu -- like Fishcamp, I always transferred in LA or San Francisco. But the week after Thanksgiving, for the past 25 years,  is the week NORML puts on its legal seminar in Key West (at the Pier House, I love their "spa rooms" (huge and on the second floor, in the spa building) and of course its cancelled this year (as was the summer NORML legal conference in Aspen). Hopefully 2021 will be better, but I'm not counting on it.

    The low profile, (none / 0) (#20)
    by KeysDan on Mon Nov 23, 2020 at 10:05:42 AM EST
    high competency Cabinet and staff to soon to be announced by Biden/Harris, particularly, the national security/economics  team, hampers the Republican demonization campaign in the Georgia senators race, turn out being determinative.  While demonization, no doubt, remains a Republican staple, there will not be enough time before the January 5 run-off.

    It might make sense, however, to wait on the run-off before announcing the Attorney General appointment.

    Well, the (none / 0) (#28)
    by KeysDan on Mon Nov 23, 2020 at 03:39:29 PM EST
    Republicans are on it, literally.   Franklin Graham claims Rev Warnock has a " demonIc agenda".

    The rainy season has come early this year. (none / 0) (#31)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Mon Nov 23, 2020 at 04:08:42 PM EST
    It was a very wet weekend here on the Big Island, and while the rain let up for a little while this morning, we're in for a bit of a deluge this afternoon through tomorrow.

    I've got a County COVID task force meeting at 8:30 a.m. tomorrow in Kealakekua over on the Kona side and because it's a two-hour drive (95 miles over the Saddle Hwy., or 110 miles around South Point), I'm going to head over there this afternoon and spend the night. Otherwise, I'd have to leave our house by no later than 5:30 a.m. tomorrow to get there on time to set up.

    We've been quite fortunate in Hawaii, in that we've managed to contain the spread of coronavirus. Our geographic isolation has likely played a significant part in our low numbers, but we've also been quite rigorous in enforcing emergency quarantine orders and doing contact tracing. And on an island the size of ours that's predominantly rural, that's been no small feat. And so, I've been on the road a lot.

    It's therefore great news that Oxford AstraZeneca announced that its COVID vaccine has a 90% efficacy rate. Of the possible three vaccines thus far, Oxford AstraZeneca holds the most promise. It's much cheaper than the American vaccines, 80% less per dose. There are no temperature issues with delivery. And best of all, it's already been in production for months.

    Hail Britannia!