Friday Night Open Thread

I've got the grill going (Asian Steak and Watermelon and Arugula Salad over rice noodles with peanuts on top).

What's on your agenda for this holiday weekend?

This is an open thread, all topics welcome.

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    Yum! (5.00 / 2) (#2)
    by ZtoA on Fri Apr 18, 2014 at 09:54:38 PM EST
    I'm going to bring dessert to the Ishtar Egg dinner at my sister's. I got all the ingredients for a cake and chocolate frosting. I'm going to try to make a Mondrian cake like this. Mine will most likely turn out to look like a Polluck but I can always to out to get another cake.

    Oh My (none / 0) (#6)
    by squeaky on Fri Apr 18, 2014 at 10:09:24 PM EST
    Sounds like a fun challenge.
    Sure, it took all weekend (no exaggeration). Yes, it is not healthy, nor is it cheap. Would I make it again? Only if I had a small army of worshipful assistants. But this cake gave me great satisfaction. I'd worked hard on a goal, and I had something tangible (and edible) to show for my efforts. I'd successfully avoided leaving the house all weekend. I had a new appreciation for Freeman and her fancy-pants art desserts, and I had an industrial-sized cake to call my own. Bon apétit.



    That does sound good! (5.00 / 2) (#3)
    by nycstray on Fri Apr 18, 2014 at 09:58:34 PM EST
    I was going to be doing some cooking, but a stray puppy showed up on my doorstep, so I'm working on creating spaces for all the 4 legged kids around here until I can find the puppy's parents . . . we won't talk about the other young dog I just saw running the 'hood. It's like "who let the dogs out?" around here today!

    That is a lovely puppy (5.00 / 1) (#27)
    by sj on Fri Apr 18, 2014 at 10:58:49 PM EST
    I plucked my girl from the streets of Baltimore. She was also well cared for (the mess of street life notwithstanding). She was already house broken, crate trained and well socialized (which is really important for Chows). Somebody loved her but nobody had reported her lost. So after two days she was mine.

    Which thrilled my Lab mix to no end. He was a dog's dog and had been lonely after my little Schnoodle girl died.

    Hopefully your pup has a micro chip. I'll never go without one of those things. And I have it checked on every vet visit, too. Just to make sure it hasn't drifted or malfunctioned.


    My ex-BF found a Chow wandering around (5.00 / 1) (#31)
    by vml68 on Fri Apr 18, 2014 at 11:24:55 PM EST
    a grocery parking lot and decided to bring it home to me. He was absolutely gorgeous and looked to be very well taken care off. We put up flyers everywhere, contacted local vets, shelters and the police. I thought we would be able to find the owners pretty quickly. But no one claimed him.

    For some reason he immediately fixated on me and would not allow my dogs or cats to come anywhere near me. At night, he would sit by my bed and just stare at me all night long. It was really unnerving to wake up and have his face inches from mine just watching me. The minute I stepped out of the house, he would start hurling himself at the window trying to get out. It was nuts.

    This was about 20 years ago and I was living in the Midwest then. Chows were almost always put to sleep if taken to the area shelters. I volunteered at the only no-kill shelter in town and they were already beyond capacity. I was desperate to find him a home before he completely destroyed mine. Not to mention, my critters were miserable with him around. I finally found him a home with a coworker. A few months later, he ran away from their home and was hit by a car. It broke my heart.


    If you don't find the puppy's parents (none / 0) (#4)
    by vml68 on Fri Apr 18, 2014 at 10:03:58 PM EST
    I will gladly take him/her in :-)
    What a beauty!

    She's so sweet! (none / 0) (#8)
    by nycstray on Fri Apr 18, 2014 at 10:15:39 PM EST
    And so totally dif than my Dal, lol!~ She's so big though, and such a youngster.

    If I don't find her parents, get ready for a road trip!  ;) I will say, she would be a really easy dog for me to keep. I just wish I knew her name. I'm calling her 'Girl'. That always worked with the shelter pups (Girl, Boy) because you just pair it up with "Good!" ;)


    When I worked in the shelter, I could never (5.00 / 1) (#12)
    by vml68 on Fri Apr 18, 2014 at 10:31:44 PM EST
    keep track of the names. It was always "Hello Handsome" or "Hello Beautiful" or "Hello Baby". My excuse was that I already had 7 critters at home, my brain couldn't handle  anymore names!

    Some of the shelter dogs I named (none / 0) (#25)
    by nycstray on Fri Apr 18, 2014 at 10:55:56 PM EST
    could never be renamed :) The owners tried, but they needed the name I gave in the long run. So yeah, there are a few (good) 'Boy's running around in Brooklyn :)

    When 'Girl' wakes up, I'm going to start a bit of treat training with her so I can see what she knows and at least get her in a bit more comfortable space with me. "Good Girl" should work wonders with her. She's really sweet and relaxed, but seems a tad 'lost' :(


    Awsum (none / 0) (#5)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Apr 18, 2014 at 10:08:40 PM EST
    God loves dogs and the people who love them

    You would know ;) (5.00 / 1) (#11)
    by nycstray on Fri Apr 18, 2014 at 10:24:22 PM EST
    O.M.G., this is the nicest puppy! Of course, we are prob also in a bit of a honeymoon phase. Downside is she has no respect for baby gates (my girl thinks you need to stay at least a foot away, lol!~) and when she drinks her water, she spills the whole bowl. My floors are going to be really clean :D

    My cats are looking at me like I have 4 heads that need to be destroyed and Shirley the Bird is vocalizing her dominance over every thing with 4 legs. My poor ears! But, puppy seems to have passed out :)


    Sounds Like You Have a New Dog (5.00 / 1) (#13)
    by squeaky on Fri Apr 18, 2014 at 10:32:06 PM EST
    Although hard to imagine someone would let her go, as she is a beauty.

    I'm so hoping someone is looking for her (none / 0) (#20)
    by nycstray on Fri Apr 18, 2014 at 10:39:48 PM EST
    I didn't realize it was a holiday weekend, so I've adjusted my thought process that her parents may not know she's gone until Sunday night/Mon AM. She's well cared for, right down to well groomed nails. I'm going to get her scanned tomorrow for a chip. She had a harness on but no tags :(

    She just doesn't want to let you out of her sight (none / 0) (#17)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Apr 18, 2014 at 10:37:56 PM EST
    Would you? Hears a tip for sloppy drinking.  Get a deeper container like a bucket oy a tall plastic container and only fill it about half full.  Two of my dogs used to get more water on the floor than they drank but that really helps contain  the fallout.

    I bought a boot/shoe tray similar to (none / 0) (#21)
    by Anne on Fri Apr 18, 2014 at 10:45:40 PM EST
    this one, that's like 4 feet by 15" with two inch sides - it's made of hard rubber - and easily accommodates both the water bowl and food bowl - whatever spillage there is ends up in the tray, not on the floor.

    I tried trays of different types (none / 0) (#23)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Apr 18, 2014 at 10:49:02 PM EST
    And sizes.  But I found that a tall container works better.  And takes up less space.

    She tips the bowl over by slapping (none / 0) (#24)
    by nycstray on Fri Apr 18, 2014 at 10:49:25 PM EST
    her paw in it :) I do have a bowl with a rubber ringed bottom which I'm pulling out for her. I thought of a bigger container, but I don't want that much water on the wood floors :) Funny thing is, Rox would get water all over just because she was a messy puppy/young adult, this one drinks for a bit and then slams the bowl over . . . gently.

    How's it like living with this kinda dog coat? With my Dals and their short close coat, yes they shed 24/7/365, but a bath is literally just rinsing them off once on awhile. Grooming? Nah, not much. Dog smell, nope.


    So jealous (none / 0) (#26)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Apr 18, 2014 at 10:56:12 PM EST
    On the grooming

    This is a friend's dog (none / 0) (#35)
    by scribe on Sat Apr 19, 2014 at 08:39:12 AM EST
    When it comes to grooming ... oy.

    But they're great dogs.

    And I remain convinced setter puppies are the cutest of them all.


    What's it like? (none / 0) (#36)
    by Mr Natural on Sat Apr 19, 2014 at 09:01:06 AM EST
    Lots and lots of fur.  It gets everywhere, especially the cooling vents of electronics.

    Both of our dogs adopted us.  Whether they were dumped by the road or simply wandered off we'll never know, but they won our hearts.  They didn't have chips when they showed up but they do now.

    How did I know when the dogs could stay?  When my wife named them.


    We have a chiweenie (none / 0) (#40)
    by MKS on Sat Apr 19, 2014 at 11:54:26 AM EST
    which is half Dachshund and half Chihuahua.   She is completely whacked.  Screams at all other dogs with a howl that sounds like she is being tortured.

    Has the long body and coloring of a dachshund and the head of Chihuahua.  Long ears that stand up like Bugs Bunny.   Looks like the sleek dogs of ancient Egypt.

    She gets wound up and then will go and scoop out all the water from the water dish.   Just Miss OCD.


    Stray puppy is a beautiful dog (none / 0) (#9)
    by MO Blue on Fri Apr 18, 2014 at 10:16:11 PM EST
    What breed is he/she?

    I have evidently fallen behind on how many 4 legged kids you now have.

    I, of course, recognized Dot. Do you also have the beagle that was in the video with Dot? Also, is the cute little dog in all the coats yours? What kind of dog is it?


    I think puppy is either a Husky/mix or (none / 0) (#14)
    by nycstray on Fri Apr 18, 2014 at 10:34:01 PM EST
    a Mal/high mix. She doesn't have the curled tail of a Mal, but everything else kinda fits. She could be a GSD/Huskey mix. She's rock solid whatever she is. And out cold on the floor :)

    You are prob seeing Rox in the pics, Dot passed away suddenly 2.5 years ago (Rox was born the next day) The beagle and other little dog are my mom's. Best guess on the little dog is chi/yorkie mix. I currently have Rox, 3 kitties (Seven, Harlem aka Harley and Yankee) and Shirley the Bird (Indian Ringneck). Plus a stray puppy passed out on the floor. Debating whether I can handle running around the 'hood to catch the stray young red-headed pit-mix that was there when I brought stray puppy home from a walk . . .


    Sorry about that (5.00 / 1) (#28)
    by MO Blue on Fri Apr 18, 2014 at 11:06:31 PM EST
    I remembered that Dot had passed away after I posted my comment. You used to talk so much about Dot that her name was what stuck in my mind.

    From the pictures, the stray puppy reminded me of a GSD mix that I had as a girl but the coloring reminded me more of a husky.  


    Ha! You beat me to it. (none / 0) (#18)
    by vml68 on Fri Apr 18, 2014 at 10:39:03 PM EST
    I couldn't see the tail but the coloring and the solid body made me think Malamute.

    Definitely some husky (none / 0) (#19)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Apr 18, 2014 at 10:39:26 PM EST
    Maybe some shepherd too

    A housemate had a Husky my senior (none / 0) (#37)
    by Mr Natural on Sat Apr 19, 2014 at 10:01:46 AM EST
    year at University.  I still remember the day it ate my dinner, several lunches and dinners, actually.  One spring afternoon I'd unwrapped a huge turkey breast, fresh from the grocery store, and had placed it on the counter in a pan.  I turned on the oven and left the kitchen, no idea why.  When I returned a moment later, the pan was empty.  Just me and the dog in the house.

    The lesson?  Preheating is for the birds.  And the dog.


    That;s funny... (none / 0) (#38)
    by jimakaPPJ on Sat Apr 19, 2014 at 10:29:17 AM EST
    Did the dog look innocent? Like, "I wasn't even here today?"

    We had a doberman who helped himself to whatever was near the edge if you left the room. Took patience but we finally trained him not to.


    She looks like she has quite a bit (none / 0) (#15)
    by vml68 on Fri Apr 18, 2014 at 10:34:50 PM EST
    of Malamute in her.

    wow, beautiful pup (none / 0) (#34)
    by ZtoA on Sat Apr 19, 2014 at 01:59:16 AM EST
    I'm more a cat person, but did have a husky/wolf mix walk out of the wilds of northern CA foothills and adopt me. I called her Lupin for the wild flowers. Her informal name was Lupert Pupkin. Huskies are beautiful. Lupert could not live indoors. I let her roam free (in the country) and she and her best bud "Haus", a white shepherd, would go around for 5-7 miles and bother the swans. Why anyone would have swans was beyond me. Yours is a gorgeous pup.

    Lupert Pupkin! (none / 0) (#50)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sat Apr 19, 2014 at 05:20:13 PM EST
    I love the play on the name of Robert De Niro's character from one of my favorite Martin Scorsese films, the underappreciated King of Comedy.

    We presently have a cat who subsequently adopted us after being abandoned by her prior owner nine years ago. In fact, she's sitting in her basket next to my desk at home as I type this, staring directly up at me as though she senses that I'm talking about her. Most likely, however, she's probably hungry and wants me to refill her bowl in the kitchen, because I got distracted earlier and forgot to do that.

    She's one of those felines who disdains wet food from cans, and loves her Purina Cat Chow (natural flavor only). She's a snacker who eats whenever she feels like it, rather than a gorger who'll immediately chow down what you put in front of her. She'll consume a bowl of food a day on average, a little at a time, and she'll also drink a bowl of water a day at the same rate. But she does really appreciate it when we're roasting a turkey or grilling up some chicken breasts, and we save a little something for her as a treat.



    Looks a little bit (none / 0) (#39)
    by MKS on Sat Apr 19, 2014 at 11:47:36 AM EST
    like a German Shepherd.  They are such amazing dogs....Physically impressive....Fast, big....Much like their ancestors the wolves...but smart and good with kids.

    Your puppy might have some retriever too, no?



    Further to the discussion of (5.00 / 2) (#16)
    by Anne on Fri Apr 18, 2014 at 10:37:05 PM EST
    Edward Snowden, the latest issue of Vanity Fair has an extensive, detailed article that is well worth a read.  A short excerpt is available on VF's website, but you either have to subscribe, or buy the magazine, if you want to read the whole thing.

    Unfortunately, the excerpt begins in the hotel room in Hong Kong, so you don't get the details on how Glenn Greenwald, Laura Poitras and Ewan McCaskill ended up there.

    The wonders of modern technology: (5.00 / 1) (#42)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sat Apr 19, 2014 at 03:39:25 PM EST
    We were playing cross-country phone relay with other family members for the better part of the last hour, because my mother called me from Tampa Int'l Airport this morning (which is mid-afternoon, EDT) to say that she and my uncle had just arrived there, but saw no sign of my cousin who was supposed to pick them up, and neither one of them had his phone number.

    So I called my cousin's land line but ended up with his voice mail, and I didn't have his current cell number, his old one now belonging to some guy at the Tampa BMW dealership. I assumed that he was on his way to the airport to get them, but just to be sure I called another cousin (his sister) in Carlsbad, CA to have her call her brother and let them know that his aunt and uncle were waiting for him.

    But the three cell numbers she had for him weren't any good any more, one was for same BMW guy and the other two were disconnected. (A good lesson to us all here: The data and information we have is only good to us if it's presently up to date.)

    So she called her mother (my aunt) who's currently up in Sacramento visiting a friend, and my aunt called her son, who said that he and his wife had already been at TPA for the better part of an hour, but couldn't find my mother and uncle. So she gave him my cell number and he called me, and I gave him my mother's cell number.

    Anyway, my cousin in Tampa just called me back to let me know that he finally found my mother and uncle, because he and his wife had been patiently awaiting their arrival at the wrong terminal -- they had arrived on American Airlines from Miami, while my cousin was waiting over at the Southwest baggage claim, thinking they were coming from Ft. Lauderdale -- and that they're all on their way back to the house.

    I don't know where he got the idea that they were flying on Southwest, because I distinctly e-mailed him two days ago and said they they were arriving on American from MIA, having made those reservations myself. Anyway, whew! Glad that's resolved. I just called my cousin in Carlsbad and aunt in Sacramento to let them know that everyone is safe and sound. I was getting concerned there, because my mother is 80 and my uncle is 88, and here I am, over 5,000 miles away in Honolulu and unable to do much more than make phone calls.

    But I do find it wondrous to consider that 30 years ago, we never would have been able to accomplish what we just did with one another, communications-wise -- even if we did somehow manage to make things a wee bit more complicated than they really needed to be. Nor would I have been able to simply go online and tell you all about it.

    Have a great day, everyone. Aloha.

    That actually sounds really really (none / 0) (#1)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Apr 18, 2014 at 09:17:53 PM EST

    Watching Django Unchained (none / 0) (#7)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Apr 18, 2014 at 10:14:34 PM EST
    On SHO. Currently paused to let the dogs out. The promos never really made me want to see this but I really really like it.

    Really did not like that movie. (5.00 / 1) (#22)
    by vml68 on Fri Apr 18, 2014 at 10:46:18 PM EST
    I don't even know why I watched it, since I tend to avoid Tarantino's movies. I just don't have the stomach for graphic violence.

    Finally watched Philomena this evening. Absolutely loved it.

    Also, scored tickets to watch A Raisin in the Sun at the Ethel Barrymore Theatre. I love me some Denzel Washington!


    Seen Philomena about a month ago (none / 0) (#29)
    by MO Blue on Fri Apr 18, 2014 at 11:12:16 PM EST
    Great movie but very sad. I just got the book from the library since I wanted to see if it had more information about Philomena.

    Let me know how you like the book. (none / 0) (#33)
    by oculus on Sat Apr 19, 2014 at 01:07:04 AM EST
    Definitely (none / 0) (#30)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Apr 18, 2014 at 11:13:44 PM EST
    Vintage Tarantino

    Interesting film. (none / 0) (#32)
    by oculus on Sat Apr 19, 2014 at 01:06:21 AM EST
    On My List (none / 0) (#10)
    by squeaky on Fri Apr 18, 2014 at 10:22:22 PM EST
    Tarintino is one of my faves.... enjoy!!

    I've despised Tarantino's last few films. (none / 0) (#43)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sat Apr 19, 2014 at 03:56:54 PM EST
    I liked THIS much better, which I think sums up Tarantino's work of late better than Tarantino can himself. (And kudos to Christof Waltz for biting the hand that fed him.)

    P.S.: Am I being sacrilegious by wishing everyone a Happy Easter in this comment?



    Amazing (none / 0) (#44)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Apr 19, 2014 at 04:08:10 PM EST
    You may or may not have noticed that Jesus in that clip was the head Nazi in Basterds and the dentist in Django.

    Christoph Waltz

    No illusions that Mr Ts films are for everyone but I really liked those two especially.  What he did with tension in Basterds he doubled down on in Django.  
    But then I have to admit I can't think of a Mr T film I don't like.


    That's what I said: (none / 0) (#46)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sat Apr 19, 2014 at 04:30:04 PM EST
    "And kudos to Christof Waltz for biting the hand that fed him."

    I'm a big fan of Quentin Tarantino's earlier work in classics such as Reservoir Dogs (which is my personal favorite) and Pulp Fiction, and the underrated Jackie Brown.

    But when he did his two Kill Bill films, I started to think that he was indulging in gratuitous onscreen violence simply for its own sake. And when he got onto his revenge fantasy schtick -- well, I'll just say that in my own opinion and as an amateur historian, I felt that his train had seriously jumped the tracks here.

    I find nothing at all even remotely humorous about Nazis and 19th century American slavers or what they did respectively, and both Inglourious Basterds and D'Jango Unchained just really, really rubbed me the wrong way. Neither film was an enjoyable experience for me.

    Basterds in particular struck me as nothing more than a steroid-addled and hyperviolent big screen version of Hogan's Heroes, with Waltz assuming the role of Major Hochstetler. Now, I'm certainly no prude when it comes to cinema, but I actually walked out of the theatre at the conclusion of Basterds feeling offended by what I had just seen, and that's something that rarely if ever occurs when we go to the movies.



    Many people (none / 0) (#49)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Apr 19, 2014 at 04:59:26 PM EST
    Including me had complex reactions to Basterds.  And certainly not all in a good way. I liked

    this one

    As people keep noting, it's a movie that turns the Jews into the Nazis and the Nazis into the Jews and takes great fun doing it. But it doesn't stop there- the Jews even become suicide bombers, striking a contemporary note. It's a revenge movie in just about every possible vector.

    Only two serious characters in it don't seem to have any revenge motive- Landa and Raines. They are men that spend the entire movie with smiles on their faces, like they know something the other characters don't, smiling like they know what's really going to happen. It's Raine that bodily reveals the true price of total revenge. It is this: Revenge will make you one flesh. More totally than sex or love or culture or media, it is revenge that will erase the differences. Your blue-eyed Indian children will stalk the Earth, and they may love you, but they won't know how to tell you and your most hated enemy apart.

    It left me shaky and wide eyed, wondering down the empty 2am streets of Boston, walking all the way back to Cambridge with my companion without really noticing the time go by. I don't know if I believe QT. But, strangely enough, history seems like it might be on his side. Perhaps it's an idea that is more palatable to me expressed as no cultural identity survives massive conflict- not even the winner's. We touch each other, we change each other, we start again. QT is not where I expected to find something like this, and it makes me wonder if this is something new for him, or if I should go back and watch the others to see what I missed.


    I don't believe it's anything new. (none / 0) (#51)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sat Apr 19, 2014 at 05:41:56 PM EST
    Rather, it's become apparent to me, having watched Tarantino's films for the better part of 25 years now, that he has a personal obsession with the portrayal of graphic onscreen violence.

    Further, it's an obsession which -- again, in my own opinion -- has started to seriously eclipse his obvious talent as a screenwriter with a true gift for great dialogue and wordplay. (In addition to those films which he's directed, he also wrote the screenplays for True Romance and Natural Born Killers.)

    In short, I wonder whether his otherwise very considerable skills as a filmmaker have actually started to atrophy as a result of this obsession, rather than continue to grow and blossom.

    In that regard, yes, I would definitely urge you to check out Tarantino's earlier films, particularly the aforementioned Reservoir Dogs. I think if you then look at Basterds and D'Jango both linearly to and within the overall context of his entire work product, you'll see the point I'm trying to convey about him not necessarily grow right now as an film artist, even as he's achieved tremendous box office clout as a successful producer.



    I know most of the dialogue (none / 0) (#52)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Apr 19, 2014 at 06:03:48 PM EST
    From the early films by heart.  Honestly I think you are selling him short a bit.  He surely doesn't have to do anything he doesn't want to do to make money.  I suspect one thing he is doing is what artists often do which is hold up a mirror.  As violent as reservoir dogs was the world has become a much more violent place since then.  Particularly entertainment.   As someone said the other day about FX, wow, is this HBO? Nope.  It's basic cable.
    And then maybe that is to philosophical an approach.  Maybe he thinks the world is full of people who are tired of seeing people "get away with it" and wants to give them some alligator brain type satisfaction.
    Honestly it would be more than presumptions of me to assign reasons for him making the films he makes.  
    I thought Kill Bill was dumb, but I still liked it. The last two I have complex feelings about.  But I liked them.

    I also understand NOT liking them.


    Again, just my opinion, but ... (none / 0) (#54)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sat Apr 19, 2014 at 07:17:54 PM EST
    ... I think we've long been indulging our reptilian instincts, to the point of overdose. I don't need Tarantino to hold up a mirror in order to to see and comprehend what's happening in our society, media and entertainment. We're rapidly become a debased culture, and I think the director is capitalizing on it, rather than simply trying to draw attention to it.

    I really don't mind graphic onscreen violence within a proper context, when its depiction actually enhances the plot. Several examples would be Ridley Scott's Black Hawk Down and Steven Spielberg's Schindler's List and Saving Private Ryan. Some of the violence in those films was stomach churning, but it actually served a purpose.

    But I just really detest it when the filmmaker's intent instead appears to be to repeatedly jar my senses with successive violent shockwaves, which rudely shove the accompanying story into the background until it becomes almost a mere afterthought. Again, just my opinion, but that's where Tarantino's more recent work has lately been within my own head.

    In that regard, I think Tarantino would do well to rein in his penchant for soaking his films in excessive blood and violence. He doesn't have to get rid of it entirely; he just needs to tone it down and not let it overwhelm the actual story he's trying to tell, to the point where the gore is primarily what a goodly number of people are recalling about a particular film.



    Fair enough (none / 0) (#55)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Apr 19, 2014 at 07:28:23 PM EST
    But the HATEFUL EIGHT doesn't really sound like he is going in that direction

    BY DOMINIC PATTEN | Friday April 18, 2014 @ 10:59am PDT

    Organizers have treated Film Independent's staged reading of Quentin Tarantino's latest script The Hateful Eight like a national security matter, restricting things like cell phones and computers and staying mum on casting ahead of Saturday night's event. But I have confirmed that Tarantino staple Samuel L Jackson will play a part at reading set for the Theatre at the Ace Hotel in downtown LA. What role he might read remains unknown, but it begs the question what other Tarantino regulars might also participate in the event. (Any guesses, Deadline readers?) Tarantino is casting and directing the show, whose $200 tickets are the hottest in town. That's no doubt because of the heat surrounding the Western screenplay, which was leaked prematurely and ended up on Gawker -- much to the consternation of Tarantino, who then told Deadline's Mike Fleming Jr that because of the breaches he wasn't going to turn the script into a movie. He later sued Gawker for posting it and a January 27, 2015 trial date has been set; the two sides are currently in court-ordered mediation. Film Independent first fueled the Jackson speculation with a tweet just now:


    Mistrust coffee and violence (none / 0) (#56)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Apr 19, 2014 at 07:36:39 PM EST
    They sum up the rest of the script accordingly:

    The script is an ensemble Western with obvious parts for Madsen and Dern, as well as Tarantino stalwarts like Samuel L. Jackson and Christoph Waltz. Jackson and Madsen would likely both play bounty hunters returning human plunder to a town called Red Rock in exchange for hefty rewards. Their characters, a former major in the Union army and a man named John Ruth, dominate the first two of the script's five chapters.

    They run into a Southerner named Chris Mannix on the road, and three of them, along with their driver -- a living prisoner and three dead bounties strapped to the roof -- arrive at a haberdashery to take shelter from an oncoming blizzard. Yet the proprietors, Minnie, Sweet Dave and her other colleagues, are nowhere to be found. In their place are four men, a Southern general (likely Dern), an alleged hangman, a Frenchman named Bob and a cowboy named Joe Gage.

    Mistrust, coffee and violence ensue.


    The script is several places around the net so I would expect big changes.  But not necessarily less gore.


    Oh duh (none / 0) (#45)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Apr 19, 2014 at 04:09:26 PM EST
    If I read past the link I would have seen that you DID notice that.  
    His character is Django does go a long way toward making up for the Nazi though.

    No doubt, Waltz is a great character actor. (none / 0) (#47)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sat Apr 19, 2014 at 04:36:44 PM EST
    In my opinion, he was probably the best thing in both Basterds and D'Jango, and I don't begrudge either of the two supporting actor Oscars he received for his work in those films.

    That said, I really hope to soon see Waltz in other roles onscreen, rather than those that aid and abet the latest Tarantino bloodbath.



    FBI questions a contractor working at (none / 0) (#41)
    by oculus on Sat Apr 19, 2014 at 12:36:26 PM EST
    Gitmo on behalf of legal defense team of 9 11 suspects.  And extracts a signed agreement barring the contractor from revealing the FBIs efforts:


    General Motors, (none / 0) (#48)
    by lentinel on Sat Apr 19, 2014 at 04:38:14 PM EST
    which, you may remember, we the taxpayers have heavily subsidized, has admitted that it delayed recalling cars with a defective ignition system that resulted in numerous deaths.

    They said they were now going to "make it right".

    How are they going to do that?
    Bring the dead back to life?

    How is this different from a youth in a hoodie stabbing someone to death and stealing his wallet?

    But you know that all the folks at GM will get off scott free.
    Those white collar folks can sell you a piece of sh-t car which you have the option to keep at your own risk, or let them recall and have no car. In any case, they get to keep your money and you're lucky to get away with your life.

    No jail for those bozos.

    It's good to be super-rich in our elitist nation.
    You can get away with murder.

    Just don't be poor.
    That's the lesson.

    Lilacs (none / 0) (#53)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Apr 19, 2014 at 06:20:36 PM EST
    there are three of these

    The back yard smells loverley

    and a burning bush

    That always has the red blooms on the inside.

    Spring has definitely sprung.  HAPPY ISHTAR