home

Monday Afternoon Open Thread

Your turn.

This is an Open Thread.

< 41 Dems Vow To Oppose HCR If It Includes Stupak Amendment
  • Premium Ads

  • Blog Ads

  • Contribute To TalkLeft

    donate to TalkLeft


  • Display: Sort:
    Reading d-day at the FDL News Desk, (none / 0) (#1)
    by Anne on Mon Nov 09, 2009 at 03:39:39 PM EST
    I thought this was perhaps one of the best posts on the effect of the Stupak amendment that I've read.  Note: make sure to follow the link to mcjoan's diary at the Big Orange; it's also very enlightening.

    Bart Stupak and his anti-choice partners like to suggest that their amendment merely extends the Hyde Amendment about public funding for abortion to the new health care bill. In actuality, over time this amendment would end reproductive choice insurance coverage entirely.

    The amendment designates two areas where abortion coverage could not be offered - the public option, and on any plan receiving subsidies in the exchange. Because insurance companies would have to take all comers and not deny anyone coverage under the new bill, they would not be able to restrict customers who receive subsidies. So effectively, every plan in the exchange would not allow abortion coverage.

    Right now, the exchanges are restricted to the self-employed, the uninsured, and certain small businesses. But there are provisions in both the House and Senate bills to open the exchanges over time. In the House, that exchange could theoretically be opened up fairly rapidly.

    [snip]

    The Senate has language like that as well, albeit at a slower rate. Sen. Ron Wyden has been trying throughout the debate to open the exchanges more and more, and Max Baucus agreed in the Senate Finance Committee to work toward some version of the opening of exchanges. So we can expect something along those lines going forward.

    Only now, with the Stupak amendment, every one of those expansions, to mid-size and then large employers and possibly even individuals who are offered employer coverage, would further restrict coverage for reproductive choice services. If the exchanges do expand - and they should - the result would be making all abortions purely an out-of-pocket scenario.

    And then there's the question of what is considered, in technical medical terms, as an abortion. Hospitals determine a terminated pregnancy where the fetus was not expelled as an abortion, requiring a "D&C" procedure. Under the Stupak amendment, insurance companies would not be allowed to cover this procedure either. It's possible that this would fall under the "life of the mother" exemption, which is in the bill, but that would only be the case if the life of the mother was directly threatened. There is no "health of the mother" exemption.

    Stupak and his anti-choice cadres would counter that women could get a "rider" for abortion services, but asking women to plan for an unplanned event is offensive to the pro-choice community.

    Progressives generally support opening the exchanges, which would also open access to the public option. Under the Stupak amendment, that would have the effect of chipping away at abortion access slowly but surely.

    UPDATE: McJoan has much more on this.

    Some serious food for thought.