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Incredible performance by Shakira (with BZRP) on the Tonight Show last week. I've never seen a late night TV show audience so engaged in the song that they know every word and move in Spanish. (It's her "swan song" to her long- time partner/father of her kids, the soccer player Pique, who cheated on her with a much younger female, and who is not helping her with her tax evasion case pending in Spain). It is the number one song globally.

Click on the bottom right corner of the video to view it in full size. You can also click the "cc" button to read the lyrics in English, you won't want to miss them. She has created a "sisterhood", not just a lot of fans with this one.

This is an open thread, all topics welcome.

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    In memory of Fannie Lou Hamer. (5.00 / 3) (#7)
    by Chuck0 on Tue Mar 14, 2023 at 01:47:27 PM EST
    Mrs. Hamer died today in 1977. She was vice-chair of the Mississippi Freedom Democratic Party who tried to be seated at the Democratic Convention in Atlantic City in 1964. Mrs. Hamer was a giant in the fight for voting and civil rights in Mississippi.

    For those who may not know the power (5.00 / 1) (#9)
    by Peter G on Tue Mar 14, 2023 at 02:59:09 PM EST
    of that name, here's a good place to start.

    Parent
    Happy (5.00 / 4) (#11)
    by Zorba on Wed Mar 15, 2023 at 12:57:17 PM EST
    Ides of March.

    Did you celebrate Pi Day (5.00 / 2) (#13)
    by Peter G on Wed Mar 15, 2023 at 04:50:16 PM EST
    yesterday with some (traditional) pie?

    Parent
    Talking heads on cable (none / 0) (#14)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Mar 15, 2023 at 05:35:58 PM EST
    are talking about the "other crime" Alvin Bragg may use to elevate his misdemeanor to a felony.

    Most people think he wont indict him on a misdemeanor without the whole furtherance of another crime part.

     Slyly suggesting he may have something more serious than a campaign finance violation, the obvious one, up his sleeve.  
    Any idea what that might be?  Something juicy like Racketeering or Conspiracy?


    Parent

    Not an expert (5.00 / 1) (#15)
    by Peter G on Thu Mar 16, 2023 at 09:52:54 AM EST
    on NY criminal law. But it is unfortunately (in general) true that the criminal codes of the states, like the federal criminal code, are overloaded with offenses, a plague of overcriminalization that empowers prosecutors to manipulate the charges by doubling up (at the least) in almost any case to pressure -- and increase punishment for -- disfavored defendants. I know you are celebrating that fact in this unusual case (and understandably so) but in general and in principle it is abusive and undesirable.

    Parent
    Guilty (none / 0) (#16)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Mar 16, 2023 at 10:43:22 AM EST
    Definitely hoping for a little abusive prosecutorial treatment of a disfavored defendant.

    Parent
    The chatter is also saying (none / 0) (#17)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Mar 16, 2023 at 10:45:36 AM EST
    this first case will not be Bragg's only charges against Trump.

    More indictments will be coming.  

    Parent

    Yeah (none / 0) (#20)
    by Ga6thDem on Thu Mar 16, 2023 at 03:32:57 PM EST
    everybody on twitter is on indictment watch. I'm like I will believe it when I see it.

    Who had Alvin Bragg first out with the indictments (if it does indeed happen)? Not i.

    Parent

    No longer restrained (5.00 / 1) (#24)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Mar 17, 2023 at 09:42:16 AM EST
    Man (5.00 / 1) (#26)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Mar 17, 2023 at 10:23:02 AM EST
    that is depressing. They think anybody having freedom other than themselves is "autocracy" but then I already knew that.

    Parent
    Happy Birthday Johnny - 1685 (5.00 / 2) (#76)
    by desertswine on Tue Mar 21, 2023 at 05:48:44 PM EST
    Toccata and Fugue in D Minor

    ...and me too - but not 1685.

    This is an interesting story (5.00 / 1) (#83)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Mar 23, 2023 at 07:29:48 PM EST
    Zoom (5.00 / 1) (#86)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Mar 26, 2023 at 06:16:49 PM EST
    You biking (none / 0) (#87)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Mar 27, 2023 at 09:25:10 AM EST
    now?

    Weather here has been beautiful for that kind of ride lately.

    Parent

    Here too (none / 0) (#88)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Mar 27, 2023 at 10:09:39 AM EST
    Such a fuss (5.00 / 1) (#100)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Mar 27, 2023 at 05:48:27 PM EST
    Today it's David... (5.00 / 2) (#102)
    by desertswine on Mon Mar 27, 2023 at 06:34:50 PM EST
    Tomorrow it could be Porky.

    Parent
    IMO the solution (none / 0) (#104)
    by jmacWA on Tue Mar 28, 2023 at 05:19:59 AM EST
    Is to bring the book "Porno-Graphics: The Shame of Our Art Museums" by Dan Greenburg back into print and distribute it where they complain.  My copy is still in great condition (considering I've had it since the early 70's) but I am not giving it up.  Not sure whether there is anywhere you can view it, but their image of David has a well placed fig leaf on the translucent oversheet.

    Parent
    This is an (5.00 / 2) (#105)
    by leap2 on Tue Mar 28, 2023 at 10:25:30 AM EST
    excellent compromise that should appease Republican prudes.

    Parent
    But (none / 0) (#109)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Mar 28, 2023 at 04:28:32 PM EST
    which (none / 0) (#113)
    by leap2 on Tue Mar 28, 2023 at 05:03:52 PM EST
    penis-head is that? They all look alike.

    Parent
    I was wondering (none / 0) (#114)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Mar 28, 2023 at 05:28:14 PM EST
    what life would be like if your name was Pecker.

    How often do people laugh when introduced to you?

    Parent

    That's not David Pecker. (none / 0) (#115)
    by leap2 on Tue Mar 28, 2023 at 05:32:27 PM EST
    You mean there is more than one pecker??

    Parent
    I was talking about (5.00 / 1) (#116)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Mar 28, 2023 at 06:06:09 PM EST
    David Pecker.   More or less.   It seemed related.

    That is Ron resting lazily on David's scrotum.

    Parent

    oh. I didn't recognize him (none / 0) (#119)
    by leap2 on Tue Mar 28, 2023 at 06:58:15 PM EST
    with scrotum hair.

    Parent
    Although David seems a bit small ... (none / 0) (#120)
    by desertswine on Wed Mar 29, 2023 at 12:05:27 AM EST
    where it counts, his hands seem unusually large.

    Parent
    His hands and head and upper body (5.00 / 1) (#121)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Mar 29, 2023 at 08:27:04 AM EST
    are intentionally out of proportion when looking at a frontal photo so the will look correctly proportioned when you are standing on the ground looking up.  

    He is very tall.  

    The frontal photo was not an option when he was made of course.

    His thing is wee to signify the victory of intellect over brute strength.  Or so I heard from a professor once.  (Who probably had a wee thing himself)

    Parent

    Facts (5.00 / 2) (#122)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Mar 29, 2023 at 08:41:11 AM EST

    Because David was intended to be viewed from below, Michelangelo eschewed ideal proportioning and instead carved the head, arms, and hands much larger than the torso and legs. This creates the illusion that David is alert and poised for action, especially when viewed from below. The deeply furrowed brow is exaggerated, and the right hand is especially large, possibly as a nod to David's biblical nickname manu fortis, or strong hand.

    about David



    Parent

    I thought there might have been an (none / 0) (#136)
    by desertswine on Wed Mar 29, 2023 at 09:03:50 PM EST
    "art" reason for that. But, you know, that's why he was Michelangelo and I'm not.

    Parent
    I was reading something (5.00 / 1) (#108)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Mar 28, 2023 at 04:05:23 PM EST
    about the damage an AR 15 like weapon does to a human body.  Particularly the body of a child.  The article went on to say "people are insulted from seeing these images".

    Maybe that is the problem.  Maybe what is needed is to learn from the mother of Emmit Till.  Some brave parent needs to force people to look at the result of a slaughter of children.

    Insulating people from them is not working.

    The Washington Post is in the middle (none / 0) (#110)
    by Peter G on Tue Mar 28, 2023 at 04:37:02 PM EST
    of an investigative series on the AR-15. Marketing, politics, etc. Today's installment is on the damage they do to a body.

    Parent
    That's it (none / 0) (#111)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Mar 28, 2023 at 04:50:08 PM EST
    How do you feel (none / 0) (#112)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Mar 28, 2023 at 04:51:08 PM EST
    about my response?

    Parent
    Emmett Till (none / 0) (#118)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Mar 28, 2023 at 06:27:47 PM EST
    Excuse me.

    Parent
    Is this necessary? (5.00 / 1) (#137)
    by desertswine on Wed Mar 29, 2023 at 09:10:20 PM EST
    Meatballs made out of fake woolly mammoth meat?

    Meatballs made with mammoth DNA created by Australian food startup.

    I can't say I've ever had a hankering for an extinct elephant burger.

    Talk about the paleo diet.. (5.00 / 5) (#138)
    by jondee on Wed Mar 29, 2023 at 10:23:03 PM EST
    Mark Russell.. (5.00 / 1) (#148)
    by desertswine on Fri Mar 31, 2023 at 12:02:11 PM EST
    Mark Russell, a master of political satire who stood at a star-spangled piano and kept the cognoscenti in stitches for six decades with musical parodies and professorial tomfoolery that tweaked politicians and captured the silly side of Washington, died on Thursday at his home there. He was 90.

    Presidents from Eisenhower to Trump caught the flak. He sang "Bail to the Chief" for Richard M. Nixon, urged George H.W. Bush to retire "to a home for the chronically preppy," likened Jimmy Carter's plan to streamline government to "putting racing stripes on an arthritic camel," and recalled first seeing Ronald Reagan "in the picture-frame department at Woolworth's, between Gale Storm and Walter Pidgeon."

    NYT

    Redbud Jelly (5.00 / 1) (#155)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Mar 31, 2023 at 04:55:15 PM EST
    Another 2.7 billion (none / 0) (#1)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Mar 13, 2023 at 09:17:28 AM EST
    Fox News, where the hits just keep on coming. (5.00 / 1) (#10)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Tue Mar 14, 2023 at 03:27:32 PM EST
    With $4.3 billion in pending litigation against the network - and let's remember, there's no cap on punitive damages, so the ultimate award to plaintiffs could actually be far more severe - I'm really wondering if Fox News itself can survive.

    The Murdochs are likely far more concerned about how this litigation's increasingly likely outcome will affect Fox Corp. as a whole. It wouldn't surprise me at all if they spin Fox News off as an autonomous company and then let it plummet to oblivion in a death spiral, in order to save the rest of their empire. The question will then be whether or not the courts will allow them to do so, especially when their obvious purpose would be to evade financial culpability for the damage they caused.

    These lawsuits bear watching.

    Parent

    New world (none / 0) (#2)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Mar 13, 2023 at 06:54:05 PM EST
    Maybe (5.00 / 1) (#3)
    by MO Blue on Mon Mar 13, 2023 at 07:45:14 PM EST
    it will be possible to pick up 21 Democratic seats in SC next election.

    Parent
    I wish (none / 0) (#4)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue Mar 14, 2023 at 08:09:10 AM EST
    There are probably too many conservative women in SC that agree with this nonsense.

    Parent
    But haven't about a third of those (none / 0) (#5)
    by Peter G on Tue Mar 14, 2023 at 10:13:08 AM EST
    conservative women themselves had abortions, or have a family member who has? In a secret ballot, would they approve a potential death penalty?  And btw, the Supreme Court of the United States has long held that the death penalty is unconstitutional for any crime other than an intentional murder (or treason in wartime). I don't think a state legislature has the authority to avoid that precedent by the verbal trick of redefining as "murder" an act which has never legally been considered to come within a correct understanding of that category.

    Parent
    It's the (none / 0) (#12)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed Mar 15, 2023 at 01:59:12 PM EST
    face eating leopard story and I would be surprised if they didn't vote for all this sorry to say.

    Parent
    The "pro-life" party. (5.00 / 1) (#8)
    by Chuck0 on Tue Mar 14, 2023 at 01:48:22 PM EST
    It (none / 0) (#6)
    by FlJoe on Tue Mar 14, 2023 at 01:14:32 PM EST
    will get worse before it gets better, these people are out for blood and one way or another they will get it.

    Parent
    Not a good place to be (none / 0) (#18)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Mar 16, 2023 at 10:47:52 AM EST

    Going into an election.

    GOP Voters Think Party Conspired with Democrats
    March 16, 2023 at 11:44 am EDT By Taegan Goddard Leave a Comment

    A new Rasmussen Reports survey finds 67% of Republican voters believe that GOP leaders in Washington worked "secretly" with Democrats in 2020 to take out former President Donald Trump and make Joe Biden president.



    Shows (5.00 / 1) (#19)
    by Ga6thDem on Thu Mar 16, 2023 at 03:31:52 PM EST
    how crazy GOP voters are also.

    Parent
    Almost 70% (none / 0) (#22)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Mar 16, 2023 at 03:38:11 PM EST
    Think they secretly conspired with democrats

    They are fractured.

    Parent

    It's a reflection of ... (5.00 / 1) (#30)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Fri Mar 17, 2023 at 03:58:47 PM EST
    ... the corrosive influence of Fox News and other right-wing media on our country's politics. In that regard, I'd offer the following points:

    • It is a myth that our Constitution somehow endows American democracy with an innate capacity for self-correction if the political pendulum swings too far in either direction. It doesn't. Rather, democracy has always been almost entirely dependent upon the will and ability of good people to stand up and defend it whenever moments of existential crisis (such as the current one) arise.

    • We need to stop conflating the active advocacy of sedition and political lies by Fox News, et al., with the exercise of free speech under the First Amendment. The Constitution's authors, who had themselves experienced revolution and the upending of the political order of things, certainly knew the difference. They acted accordingly in their times, and trusted that we would do likewise in ours.

    • We have to cease deluding ourselves that the Republican Party's willful undermining of our country's democratic values and institutions is somehow a constitutionally protected activity. It isn't. It's treason or at the very least, tantamount to it.

    • Our Constitution's authors were not so naive as to believe that people couldn't be motivated by self-interest to betray the national trust, nor was it ever their intent to hamstring the majority's ability to protect democracy and respond appropriately to any internal domestic threats during those aforementioned moments of existential crisis.

    We are presently faced with an intransigent and unapologetically fascist white nationalist movement that, if history is any indication and guide, has typically operated without restraint or ethics and has respected neither boundaries nor decency. It will continue to do so unless and until it is decisively and resolutely confronted and deterred.

    Such authoritarian movements cannot logically be accommodated through reason and compromise, nor will their irrational adherents be somehow shamed by our admonitions and deterred by our contempt. Rather, they must instead be completely and successfully vanquished by whatever means available, up to and including the use of force if necessary.

    Isaac Davis (Woody Allen): "Has anybody read that Nazis are gonna march in New Jersey? Y'know, I read this in the newspaper. We should go down there, get some guys together, y'know, get some bricks and baseball bats and really explain things to them."

    Party Guest: "There is this devastating satirical piece on that in the Op Ed pages of the Times. It is devastating."

    Isaac Davis: "Well, a satirical piece in the Times is one thing, but bricks and baseball bats really get right to the point."
    - "Manhattan", Woody Allen, Dir. (1979)

    The sooner we finally understand that collectively and then respond accordingly and appropriately to the present challenge, the better our democracy's chances for long-term survival.

    Aloha.

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    It makes one wonder (none / 0) (#27)
    by jondee on Fri Mar 17, 2023 at 12:58:07 PM EST
    if whoever's in charge at Rasmussen believes this. They're pretty notorious for their push polling.

    These days when it comes to the right-wing, you never know who's going to snap next.

    Parent

    I was taking it more seriously (none / 0) (#28)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Mar 17, 2023 at 02:41:28 PM EST
    because it was Rasmussen.  Right wing polling.

    Seems an odd thing to "push".

    Parent

    Not if the folks (none / 0) (#41)
    by jondee on Sat Mar 18, 2023 at 11:08:11 AM EST
    at Rasmussen are losing it the way so many others on the right have been in the last couple of years.

    Maybe they genuinely believe the Dems and Repubs are colluding and want to spread the word, as it were.

    Parent

    This is a good read (none / 0) (#21)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Mar 16, 2023 at 03:35:58 PM EST
    And a good example of just how fractured the right is right now.   But it's true. Trump can't beat Biden and I don't think the guy who would unplug your life support to charge his cell phone like Ron can either.

    Republicans Are Delusional If They Think Biden Will Be Easy to Beat



    Democrats (none / 0) (#23)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Mar 17, 2023 at 08:33:48 AM EST
    should bring back this old slogan in response to the right wing grievances and gloom coming from republicans

    AMERICA - Love it or leave it

    Maybe with America printed in rainbow colors

    Sounds (none / 0) (#25)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Mar 17, 2023 at 10:02:37 AM EST
    like a job for the drag queens.

    Parent
    Growing number of stories about (none / 0) (#29)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Mar 17, 2023 at 02:48:31 PM EST
    Ron DeSanctimonious eating in public.  He apparently likes eating in meetings.  Which make sense.  He thinks nows a good time for you to talk.  While I'm eating.

    Ron DeSantis Ate Chocolate Pudding ... With Three Fingers?
    The Florida governor has entered the pantheon of politicians eating weirdly



    Trumps latest attack on DeSantis (5.00 / 2) (#139)
    by MO Blue on Thu Mar 30, 2023 at 12:29:43 PM EST
    is that he was out negotiated by Mickey Mouse. For once the orange one was telling the truth.

    I think it is hilarious and love the fact that Disney is staging additional events to rub DeSantis' "Don't say gay" legislation in his face.

    Parent

    Drag queens, Colleges, (none / 0) (#44)
    by KeysDan on Sat Mar 18, 2023 at 12:36:14 PM EST
    trans kids, Black Floridians and all others Rhonda punches down for political gain and general cruelty need to be on high alert.

    The red tide (toxic algae bloom) affecting the beaches of the Caribbean are headed for the south west beaches of Florida, some  already  noted in the Keys (Sawyer Key).  

    Dealing with this toxic (arsenic) algae pile-up will be an administrative challenge necessitating an anti-woke response.


    Parent

    Every time you say "woke" (5.00 / 2) (#49)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Mar 18, 2023 at 02:29:14 PM EST
    the gay fairy makes another drag queen.

    Parent
    Could be next week (none / 0) (#31)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Mar 17, 2023 at 06:30:10 PM EST
    The GJ meets on Monday.

    Law Enforcement Prepping for Trump Indictment Next Week
    March 17, 2023 at 5:37 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard 147 Comments

    "Local, state and federal law enforcement and security agencies are preparing for the possibility that former President Donald Trump will be indicted as early as next week," NBC News reports.

    "Law enforcement agencies are conducting preliminary security assessments, the officials said, and are discussing potential security plans in and around the Manhattan Criminal Court, at 100 Centre Street, in case Trump is charged in connection with an alleged hush money payment to Stormy Daniels and travels to New York to face any charges



    Looks like (none / 0) (#32)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Mar 17, 2023 at 08:41:09 PM EST
    it is going to happen.

    Parent
    Tuesday (none / 0) (#33)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Mar 18, 2023 at 08:03:10 AM EST
    It's said he is just guessing (none / 0) (#34)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Mar 18, 2023 at 08:28:45 AM EST
    Guessing in all caps.

    "NOW ILLEGAL LEAKS FROM A CORRUPT & HIGHLY POLITICAL MANHATTAN DISTRICT ATTORNEYS OFFICE, WHICH HAS ALLOWED NEW RECORDS TO BE SET IN VIOLENT CRIME & WHOSE LEADER IS FUNDED BY GEORGE SOROS, INDICATE THAT, WITH NO CRIME BEING ABLE TO BE PROVEN, & BASED ON AN OLD & FULLY DEBUNKED (BY NUMEROUS OTHER PROSECUTORS!) FAIRYTALE, THE FAR & AWAY LEADING REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE & FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, WILL BE ARRESTED ON TUESDAY OF NEXT WEEK. PROTEST, TAKE OUR NATION BACK!,"



    Parent
    George Soros. (none / 0) (#45)
    by Chuck0 on Sat Mar 18, 2023 at 01:21:40 PM EST
    Haven't they beaten that dead horse enough. C'mon find a new boogey man.

    Parent
    I know (none / 0) (#46)
    by jondee on Sat Mar 18, 2023 at 01:46:16 PM EST
    the guy's like effing ninety six or something.

    Parent
    Try as I may (5.00 / 2) (#47)
    by jondee on Sat Mar 18, 2023 at 01:50:12 PM EST
    and God knows I've tried, I just can't wrap my mind around the fact that Trump was President.

    Parent
    Ninety two, excuse me (none / 0) (#48)
    by jondee on Sat Mar 18, 2023 at 01:54:26 PM EST
    An all-powerful, evil puppet master never rests I guess.

    Parent
    He may well be charged next week upon (none / 0) (#35)
    by Peter G on Sat Mar 18, 2023 at 09:55:43 AM EST
    return of the indictment, but I doubt very much Tr*mp will be "arrested." An arrest occurs if the prosecutor requests and the judge supervising the grand jury issues a warrant to take the accused into custody and bring them before the court to answer the charges. If the accused appears voluntarily, and there is no intent to request pretrial detention rather than bond, there is no need for a warrant and therefore no arrest.

    Parent
    Arrested (none / 0) (#36)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Mar 18, 2023 at 10:18:38 AM EST
    is Trumps word.  It sounds worse than indicted.  

    And his fans probably don't know the difference.

    He could be saying that the AG's office alerting law enforcement in advance, which definitely should happen I would think, is the "illegal leak".

    Parent

    Just announced he is holding a rally (none / 0) (#37)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Mar 18, 2023 at 10:21:08 AM EST
    In Waco TX.  One week from today.

    Parent
    It would not be unusual in a criminal case (5.00 / 1) (#42)
    by Peter G on Sat Mar 18, 2023 at 11:26:06 AM EST
    for the judge imposing bond to include travel restrictions, such as no international travel (surrender passport), and no domestic travel outside the state bringing the charges (NY) and the state of residence (FL) and direct travel between those states. If so, no Waco.

    Parent
    I wonder if that announcement (5.00 / 1) (#50)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Mar 18, 2023 at 02:33:03 PM EST
    was made with that very possibility in mind.  Trump has surely done this enough to know what could happen.

    If the judge says he can't go my bet is the "rally" in Waco would still happen.  And probably a few other places.

    Parent

    This is from the Daily Mail (none / 0) (#53)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Mar 18, 2023 at 03:52:07 PM EST
    What do you think about this (none / 0) (#52)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Mar 18, 2023 at 02:52:31 PM EST

    Federal Judge Hands Over Trump's Lawyer's Notes to DOJ

    In doing so, Howell may have planted the seeds for a future constitutional challenge



    Parent
    What could go wrong (none / 0) (#38)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Mar 18, 2023 at 10:24:40 AM EST

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    stollen: (5.00 / 3) (#39)
    by leap2 on Sat Mar 18, 2023 at 10:49:41 AM EST
    It is going to be interesting (none / 0) (#40)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Mar 18, 2023 at 10:56:17 AM EST
    to see how the GOP reacts to this.   On one hand it can pretty easily be portrayed as overreach, a misdemeanor from 7 years ago plus we don't know what else, on the other hand everyone knows more and bigger charges are coming.

    The usual shameless suspects, Kevin, MTG et al, are already out there.  

    It will be informative to see how deep others are willing to dig.

    This, apparently, is a (none / 0) (#43)
    by KeysDan on Sat Mar 18, 2023 at 12:16:19 PM EST
    solid case.  Michael Cohen's testimony corroborated with documentation.  Cohen has already been sentenced in federal court for carrying out the hush payment at the direction and behest of Individual One, (Trump) and served time.

    Of course, this would be a state charge and the defense will attempt to chip away at Michael Cohen's credibility.  And, it only takes one juror!  An acquittal would surely ignite MTG and her ilk in the event of other charges by Fulton County and/or DOJ--out to get Jesus' anointed one and our savior. All the rubes need and dangerous.

    Parent

    There could be a real split (none / 0) (#51)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Mar 18, 2023 at 02:40:06 PM EST
    In the GOP over Ukraine.  If Trump and DeSanctimonious continue to spout Pravda talking points it could actually open up another lane for someone else in the primary.

    Parent
    Doubt if (none / 0) (#54)
    by KeysDan on Sat Mar 18, 2023 at 04:11:14 PM EST
    any sane, reasonable Republican candidate could survive the primary.  Even your basic reactionary may be too enlightened for this party.  While there are many fascists for them to pick from., Rhonda Santis seems to be a safe harbor if TFG looks to be, once again, a loser.  At some point, if successful in the primary, DeSantis will become more flexible on Ukraine or more Republicans will become flexible on Russia.  

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    I just meant (none / 0) (#55)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Mar 18, 2023 at 05:04:55 PM EST
    one more head in the primary.  Which helps Trump.  I'm starting to believe republicans might actually nominate him under indictments.

    It would be the ultimate political own/self own they have become good at.

    Parent

    Reprehensible, (5.00 / 1) (#58)
    by KeysDan on Sat Mar 18, 2023 at 06:33:14 PM EST
    but unsurprising.  Republicans are already coming to Trump's defense.  Speaker McCarthy is going to sic his committees on local officials, Pence and others are giving  support.  

    Yes, an indictment will  rally the deplorables. He is, once again, ready and willing to incite riots..  However, I believe he is going to be disappointed.

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    I guess if he wins (none / 0) (#56)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Mar 18, 2023 at 05:23:16 PM EST
    he can pardon himself so not completely irrational.

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    The President's pardon power (5.00 / 1) (#65)
    by Peter G on Sat Mar 18, 2023 at 10:05:20 PM EST
    extends only to federal crimes. No President could pardon Tr*mp for the NY or GA case. That power rests with the Governor of each state.

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    It's like Trial By Combat (none / 0) (#57)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Mar 18, 2023 at 05:36:40 PM EST
    in Game of Thrones. But Trump does not have a Gregor Clegane.  He has Joe Tacopina

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    That's (none / 0) (#59)
    by FlJoe on Sat Mar 18, 2023 at 06:46:24 PM EST
    why I keep thinking Pompeo, he could possibly put together a coalitiom of Christo-fascists and old school neo-cons.

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    Many in the GOP take the whole Russia thing (none / 0) (#60)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Mar 18, 2023 at 07:21:05 PM EST
    very seriously.  It could actually be a red line for some.  So Ron will probably revise and extend his remarks but it's a base thing.

    It's enough to cause a problem.

    I had really been thinking they would stop him but the voters will decide.  God love um.  

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    Trump's indictment. (none / 0) (#61)
    by KeysDan on Sat Mar 18, 2023 at 07:34:23 PM EST
    if that happens, may hurt Rhonda Santis. The Republican officials rallying around Trump already will spawn loyalty tests---Rhonda would be disloyal to run against the beleaguered victim.of Democrats.   Although the first indictment may be the toughest, getting easier with each successive one.

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    Probably take the Mike Pence approach (none / 0) (#62)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Mar 18, 2023 at 07:41:24 PM EST
    No one is above the law

    But

    This is all political.

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    I (none / 0) (#67)
    by FlJoe on Sun Mar 19, 2023 at 06:42:19 AM EST
    wonder if there will ever be a "throw tRump under the bus" lane in the primary. It seems like some long shot candidate would take the risk.

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    I think (none / 0) (#68)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Mar 19, 2023 at 10:27:27 AM EST
    there will be.  

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    Trumpworld (none / 0) (#63)
    by Ga6thDem on Sat Mar 18, 2023 at 09:14:58 PM EST
    has noticed that DeSantis world has been silent on the indictments.

    DeSantis appears to be playing Dukakis 2.0 where if I just ignore it, it won't be a problem.

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    DeSantis spoke up (none / 0) (#66)
    by KeysDan on Sat Mar 18, 2023 at 10:51:53 PM EST
    so as to align with Trump on Russia/Ukraine (just a border dispute, not in our national interest) and may  not have received the best response from the Republican foreign policy establishment.

    Unlike Pence, who would be "troubled" by a Trump indictment (he must be talking to Susan Collins), on this one DeSantis may have concluded that it is better to remain silent and let them all think he. Is stupid, than to speak out and remove all doubt.

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    Rhonda. Santis (none / 0) (#71)
    by KeysDan on Mon Mar 20, 2023 at 11:27:47 AM EST
    didn't speak up because he just doesn't know about these porn star, pay off things.  In a speechlet,  called a press conference , he said

     "I don't know what goes into paying hush money to a porn star to secure silence."

    He does know that the Manhattan DA is a Soros-funded prosecutor, and like other Soros-funded prosecutors, they weaponize their office to impose a political agenda on society. (Hillsborough County Florida States Attorney Andrew Warren suspended  by DeSantis for political reasons would like a word here, no doubt).
    And, he also knows that "Soros" is a dog whistle understood by the red-hatted MAGAt base.

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    These (5.00 / 3) (#72)
    by FlJoe on Mon Mar 20, 2023 at 01:20:01 PM EST
    guys live in the 17th century, they just substitue woke for witchcraft and Soros for Satan, let the trials begin.

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    Rhonda (none / 0) (#82)
    by KeysDan on Wed Mar 22, 2023 at 08:45:04 PM EST
    is.now trying to "clarify" his Russia/Ukraine comment of a territorial dispute tha has no national security interest.. He "mischaracterized" and could have been clearer.  And, that Putin guy is now a war criminal.  The invasion of Crimea was bad, too,

    Seems  Little Trump can't  always be Big Trump.

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    Trumpworld (none / 0) (#64)
    by Ga6thDem on Sat Mar 18, 2023 at 09:14:58 PM EST
    has noticed that DeSantis world has been silent on the indictments.

    DeSantis appears to be playing Dukakis 2.0 where if I just ignore it, it won't be a problem.

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    One more witness (none / 0) (#69)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Mar 19, 2023 at 10:29:28 AM EST
    In a poopy mood (none / 0) (#70)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Mar 19, 2023 at 03:26:42 PM EST
    Poor things

    CNN
     --
    Heading into the next presidential election, an analysis of CNN polls shows that Republicans have reverted to the deeply negative national outlook they held prior to Donald Trump's presidential victory in 2016. They again are convinced the nation is in decline, and more often defensive against demographic and cultural changes in US society



    Summary judgement arguments (none / 0) (#73)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Mar 21, 2023 at 02:26:53 PM EST
    are happening in the FOX/Dominion case.

    Wonder what the over and under of a settlement are.
    I would not be surprised if FOX tries to settle.  It's not getting better for them.

    Fox News producer's 'explosive' new lawsuit upends its Dominion defense



    Or... (none / 0) (#74)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Mar 21, 2023 at 03:46:05 PM EST

    Wonder what the over and under of a settlement IS?



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    Just my personal (none / 0) (#75)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue Mar 21, 2023 at 05:21:48 PM EST
    opinion but it looks like to me that Dominion and Smartech want this to be as painful as possible for Fox and that would include an embarrassing trial where they had to air all their dirty laundry. The new lawsuit probably makes it more likely a trial. However our legal eagles probably know better than I do.

    Moral of the story you only can go around treating people like garbage before so long before the peons have had it and turn the tables on you.

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    Am I right (anyone) (none / 0) (#77)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Mar 21, 2023 at 05:52:16 PM EST
    I thinking I heard there is no limit to the damages a jury could award?

    I believe in addition to the 1.6 billion?

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    Punitive damages (5.00 / 1) (#79)
    by KeysDan on Tue Mar 21, 2023 at 07:24:12 PM EST
    can be awarded, in such cases that are reckless, with malice or fraud.  The punitive awards can not be grossly excessive or they can be reduced on the basis of taking property without due process.  However, punitive damages can run up to several times the award.

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    Forbes (none / 0) (#78)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Mar 21, 2023 at 06:13:25 PM EST

    Dominion is asking Fox to pay $1.6 billion in damages, but that number could end up lower if the two sides settle--or a jury could "go even higher" if it decides Fox's conduct is "bad enough" to warrant that, attorney Norm Eisen noted to CNN.



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    And this is going (none / 0) (#80)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed Mar 22, 2023 at 08:30:26 AM EST
    to trial in NYC where Fox is headquartered?

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    Someone accosted Mike Lindell (5.00 / 1) (#89)
    by jondee on Mon Mar 27, 2023 at 11:32:27 AM EST
    at the airport and asked him if he's coming out with a new giant-size pillow to smother the judges in the Dominion case.

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    You know (none / 0) (#91)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Mar 27, 2023 at 12:48:58 PM EST
    I have to ask did that really happen or are you being snarky because the way things are these days with crazies you never know.

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    Yeah it really happened (none / 0) (#94)
    by jondee on Mon Mar 27, 2023 at 02:15:33 PM EST
    it was even funnier than the way I told it.

    Lindell got all outraged and said the suggestion was disgusting! Even one of his flunkies standing behind him started chuckling.

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    The Passion of the Don (none / 0) (#81)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Mar 22, 2023 at 09:27:59 AM EST

    In MAGA-world and Christian Nationalism circles, many Trump supporters see his imminent arrest as eerily similar to the crucification of Jesus Christ.

    Do we get to whip him thru the streets carrying a 200 lb bag of KFC?

    Who Had It Worse, Trump or Jesus Christ?


    Tornado destruction (none / 0) (#84)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Mar 25, 2023 at 05:25:49 PM EST
    17 minutes of incredible drone footage.

    It ripped the bark off trees.

    Bless their hearts.  Hard to imagine one of those places a house used to be was your home.

    Devastating. (none / 0) (#85)
    by desertswine on Sat Mar 25, 2023 at 10:45:41 PM EST
    Ho hum... (none / 0) (#90)
    by desertswine on Mon Mar 27, 2023 at 12:42:41 PM EST
    Another day...  another school massacre.

    Right on schedule.

    According to latest bulletins (none / 0) (#92)
    by MO Blue on Mon Mar 27, 2023 at 01:12:31 PM EST
    the shooter was a teenage female armed with 2 assault type rifles and a hand gun. A female shooter is unusual. Her choice of weapons just standard operating procedures for massacres of children.

    Also the choice of House Republicans who value the gun lobby over the lives of people. "House Republicans introduce bill to declare AR-15-style assault rifle US 'national gun."

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    ... and the GOP Hallelujah Chorus will quickly identify the problem here, seize upon the obvious solution, and introduce legislation in Congress to prohibit women of procreating age (16-45) from owning or possessing assault weapons.

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    Rick Scott (GQP-FL) (none / 0) (#106)
    by Chuck0 on Tue Mar 28, 2023 at 10:59:03 AM EST
    has a brilliant solution. Mandatory automatic death penalty for school shooters. Kind of stupid since most school shooters are usually killed in the act or commit suicide. This is what passes for ideas in the GQP. These people are dumber than the calming rock my wife keeps on the coffee table.


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    I love it when "conservative" lawmakers (5.00 / 1) (#107)
    by Peter G on Tue Mar 28, 2023 at 11:50:46 AM EST
    who have sworn an oath to defend the Constitution propose a law that the Supreme Court held decades ago was unconstitutional. And of course they have no idea that that is the case.

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    Saying now not a teenager. (none / 0) (#93)
    by Chuck0 on Mon Mar 27, 2023 at 01:27:38 PM EST
    But rather a 28 year old woman.

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    Now saying 28 y/o trans woman (none / 0) (#96)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Mon Mar 27, 2023 at 05:17:01 PM EST
    Or, possibly, trans man. (none / 0) (#97)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Mon Mar 27, 2023 at 05:24:40 PM EST
    Kinda confusing reports rn

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    In any other context (none / 0) (#98)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Mar 27, 2023 at 05:38:53 PM EST
    that would be funny.  At least to me.

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    ya, I am completely out of my depth here (5.00 / 1) (#101)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Mon Mar 27, 2023 at 05:50:09 PM EST
    National gun (none / 0) (#103)
    by jondee on Mon Mar 27, 2023 at 10:43:57 PM EST
    Wtf does that mean?

    Till something even more effective in a mass shooting comes out?

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    You have (none / 0) (#131)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Mar 29, 2023 at 05:03:28 PM EST
    et tu Kilmeade? (none / 0) (#99)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Mar 27, 2023 at 05:46:22 PM EST

    A co-host of former President Donald Trump's one-time favorite cable news program turned on the 76-year-old Monday, calling his celebration of the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol riot during a weekend campaign rally "absolutely awful" and "insane."

    But seriously.  When he loses FOX & Fiends.  Trump really is about to rupture the right.  About half are going to cut him loose when the indictments drop.  It's like he is trying to make sure of that with the insane antics.
    That Waco sing along thing was creepy. Also that actual anniversary of the end of Waco is coming.  April 19th maybe.  Watch that date.

    It's like he really thinks he can pull off some kind of coup.  Can't decide if it's more or less scary if he really believes it.

    But it sure seems like we are reaching the end of the beginning.

    Maybe they already voted ? (none / 0) (#117)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Mar 28, 2023 at 06:17:29 PM EST
    Is there (none / 0) (#123)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed Mar 29, 2023 at 09:58:40 AM EST
    any benefit to slow walking an indictment? Maybe waiting for the bigger fish to weigh in with their indictments? I don't have a clue.

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    Making the point Trump has (none / 0) (#124)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Mar 29, 2023 at 10:19:28 AM EST
    no idea when indictments are coming?

    String him along and make him sweat in public?

    Give law enforcement plenty of time to prepare?

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    I saw some CNN bobble heads (none / 0) (#125)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Mar 29, 2023 at 11:15:10 AM EST
    worrying that continued delay is making people sad and anxious.

    That they are sad when they keep hearing indictments are coming and the don't come.

    Which might be true but it's also true all of that will be forgotten instantly when indictments drop

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    I (5.00 / 1) (#129)
    by FlJoe on Wed Mar 29, 2023 at 04:53:17 PM EST
    have been "waiting for indictments" for the better part of my adult life and "anxious and sad" has been the end result for me.

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    I really think (none / 0) (#130)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Mar 29, 2023 at 04:58:47 PM EST
    you will feel better soon.  And better after that.

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    Hmmm (none / 0) (#126)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Mar 29, 2023 at 12:50:22 PM EST
    The other possibility (none / 0) (#127)
    by MO Blue on Wed Mar 29, 2023 at 02:01:47 PM EST
    is that they don't have the votes to indict.

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    Probably other possibilities as well (none / 0) (#128)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Mar 29, 2023 at 03:40:57 PM EST
    Just have a feeling it's decided.  

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    Seems they voted (none / 0) (#141)
    by MO Blue on Thu Mar 30, 2023 at 04:43:24 PM EST
    to indict.

    CNN
     --
    A grand jury in Manhattan has voted to indict Donald Trump, according to three sources familiar with the matter - the first time in American history that a current or former president will face criminal charges.

    I have to admit that I didn't think they would do it. Glad I was wrong.

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    I was wrong too (5.00 / 1) (#142)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Mar 30, 2023 at 05:04:33 PM EST
    it was not decided.   They did it today apparently.  

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    Captain, (none / 0) (#143)
    by KeysDan on Thu Mar 30, 2023 at 05:05:30 PM EST
    you were right.

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    No (none / 0) (#144)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Mar 30, 2023 at 05:26:24 PM EST
    I think they voted today

    It might have been decided but no vote till today.

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    Close enough (none / 0) (#145)
    by KeysDan on Thu Mar 30, 2023 at 05:28:34 PM EST
    for Government work.

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    Ha (none / 0) (#146)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Mar 30, 2023 at 05:32:52 PM EST
    I was thinking, based on that link, they had voted and only the foreperson would need to be further involved.  

    It was said they were hearing other stuff today.

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    The timing is excellent (5.00 / 2) (#147)
    by MO Blue on Thu Mar 30, 2023 at 05:34:38 PM EST
    Vote today and go on a month hiatus. Smart move IMO

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    Heard tornados were hitting (none / 0) (#150)
    by MO Blue on Fri Mar 31, 2023 at 04:42:51 PM EST
    down in Arkansas. Are you anywhere near the path. Stay safe.

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    Thanks for asking (none / 0) (#151)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Mar 31, 2023 at 04:46:16 PM EST
    It's weird here today.  Everyone seems more on alert than local weather says they should.

    I guess the bad stuff is very localized.   I just heard about a tornado in Little Rock when I was at the hardware store.

    This one seems to be missing me but it's still early 😬

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    A bunch of schools (none / 0) (#152)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Mar 31, 2023 at 04:47:06 PM EST
    Let out early because of the scary forecast.

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    Legal question what if (none / 0) (#132)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Mar 29, 2023 at 05:47:50 PM EST
    In one of the Drag Queen free zones they decided to do Story Hour dressed as men, which they are - the ones I've known did not consider themselves trans, but as glamorous men.  Tons of makeup and hair and nails.  But as men. In suites maybe.

    Would this be illegal?  Don't the laws specifically talk about clothes of the opposite gender.

    Just wondering.  This has probably already been done.

    The effect being (none / 0) (#133)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Mar 29, 2023 at 05:52:15 PM EST
    Women dressed as men.  

    So would a man dressed as a woman dressed as a man be illegal?

    I love that movie.  It's the one musical I will watch.

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    The Rocky Horror Picture Show (none / 0) (#140)
    by Jack E Lope on Thu Mar 30, 2023 at 03:16:38 PM EST
    ...with a woman playing the part of the cross-dressing Dr. Frank N. Furter? That was something that came to mind, which might confound that law.

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    Decked (none / 0) (#134)
    by FlJoe on Wed Mar 29, 2023 at 06:02:46 PM EST
    out like Liberace or Sir Elton?

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    Is Richard Simmons (none / 0) (#135)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Mar 29, 2023 at 06:10:12 PM EST
    Gonna need more popcorn (none / 0) (#149)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Mar 31, 2023 at 03:50:03 PM EST

    Judge Rules Against Fox News

    March 31, 2023 at 4:44 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard Leave a Comment

    "A judge denied granting summary judgment to Fox News in its attempt to get Dominion Voting System's $1.6 billion defamation lawsuit thrown out Friday, meaning the case will go to trial in mid-April," NBC News reports.



    Am I remembering right that Dominion (none / 0) (#153)
    by Peter G on Fri Mar 31, 2023 at 04:51:21 PM EST
    did not file its own summary judgment motion? Which on the state of the evidence that has been published, it seems to me, might have been granted. My impression is that Dominion is looking forward to the trial, and to racking up the damages figure.

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    Not sure (none / 0) (#154)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Mar 31, 2023 at 04:53:12 PM EST
    Sounds right

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    Yes, it (none / 0) (#156)
    by KeysDan on Fri Mar 31, 2023 at 06:15:20 PM EST
    seems Dominion wants the trial and as public as possible. And, then, there are those damages.

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