Why Can't Kevin McCarthy Take a Hint and Move On?

Sometimes in life, you try out for something and don't get it. Sometimes, you get up and try again. And maybe even a third time.

But when you fail at something as many times as Kevin McCarthy has failed to get the votes to make him Speaker of the House, doesn't there come a point when you figure out this isn't for you and you should just dust yourself off and move on?

When you fail so many times at being elected to the same position, at what point does a reasonable person acknowledge the constituency doesn't want him? And that even should he win on the 5th or 6th try, he'll never be viewed as a leader or with respect from either side? He'll only be viewed as divisive.

Republicans don't need Kevin McCarthy, and America needs him even less. It's time for him to bow out.

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    Front cover headline on today's Phila Daily News (5.00 / 2) (#2)
    by Peter G on Thu Jan 05, 2023 at 10:10:39 AM EST

    lol (none / 0) (#3)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jan 05, 2023 at 10:22:17 AM EST

    Kevin McCarthy Sets Expectations for Today
    January 5, 2023 at 11:24 am EST By Taegan Goddard Leave a Comment

    Rep. Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) to CNN: "Well I think what you'll see today is the same until we finish everything out."

    He added: "I wouldn't read anything into votes today."

    For that matter, why didn't ... (5.00 / 2) (#17)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Fri Jan 06, 2023 at 01:44:33 PM EST
    ... Susan Lucci move on from "All My Children" after losing 18 consecutive Daytime Emmy Award races for best actress? Because it's kinda sorta the same thing, from GOP House Speaker-wannabe Kevin McCarthy's perspective.

    And therein lies the problem, because it is very clearly not the same thing. Kevin McCarthy is no moderate Republican. Kevin McCarthy is a shapeshifting jackwagon who will become whomever Kevin McCarthy needs to be at the moment to get Kevin McCarthy to wherever he ultimately wants to go. That's because Kevin McCarthy has neither core principles nor an ethical compass.

    What we're presently reaping is the inevitable result of a half-century-long Republican effort to dumb down its own electorate with successive waves of base pandering to people's worst fears and visceral instincts, which Democrats have inexplicably continued to tolerate in the name of free speech.

    Further, our mainstream news media has mostly dispensed with hardnosed reporting and information analysis for opinion and emotion, and even that's being eclipsed by so-called social media influencers, many of whom don't know their a$$es from their elbows.

    Altogether, the politics of our governance has been reduced to a tawdry performance art and spectator sport, one in which everybody - participant and spectator alike - is likewise cheapened and diminished for the collective experience.

    Former Vice President Al Gore warned us 15 years ago of the reckless direction we were headed in his book "The Assault on Reason." Far from listening to him and considering what he said, we doubled down on stupid instead.

    And so here we are, dealing with the adverse consequences of a civically illiterate GOP electorate who have long since purged their party's more temperate and moderate elements from their ranks. They now see nothing wrong with electing far-right provocateurs like Marjorie Taylor Greene and Matt Gaetz and shameless hucksters like Donald Trump and Kevin McCarthy, all of whom are openly contemptuous and hostile to the very concept of responsible stewardship.

    This is not my grandfather's Republican Party. Democrats like me may have disagreed significantly with Republicans of yore on matters of socio-economic policy, but at least we could trust them to not just blow everything up into smithereens simply for its own sake.

    You can't say the same of today's GOP, an increasingly vicious white nationalist cabal which is now far less the party of Abraham Lincoln and Ulysses Grant than it is of Jefferson Davis and Nathan Bedford Forrest, and which currently presents an existential threat to both our domestic stability and our national security.


    Well (5.00 / 2) (#24)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Jan 07, 2023 at 08:38:04 AM EST
    Hakeem Jeffries (5.00 / 3) (#32)
    by KeysDan on Sat Jan 07, 2023 at 10:51:45 AM EST
    speech.  A superb oration that sets the tone for the Democrats strategy.

    If only (none / 0) (#33)
    by jmacWA on Sat Jan 07, 2023 at 01:58:23 PM EST
    they knew there was an alphabet.

    I could understand if one is burnt out (none / 0) (#35)
    by leap2 on Sat Jan 07, 2023 at 02:29:29 PM EST
    on the unfolding $h!†$how, but it is a good one, and short. Jeffries has Obama's cadence, but seems that he is more grounded in reality. And he says those words. 'We stand for  "...freedom over fascism..." "...governing over gaslighting..." "...maturity over Mara Lago..."' Heh.

    Yes, That Was His best Line (none / 0) (#36)
    by RickyJim on Sat Jan 07, 2023 at 02:51:48 PM EST
    I thought congratulating McCarthy was obligatory but apparently it wasn't.  My take away from this week's spectacle is, just another demonstration of the ineffectiveness of having only two parties vying for the control of a legislature.  While it is a vast improvement over only having one, it is still short of being the best system.

    ... looks like in action, I'd recommend looking at the United Kingdom, Germany, France, Japan, Italy and Israel.

    Generally speaking, parliamentary systems do tend to work well - that is, until they multi-factionalize and then don't. Israeli politics right now is a real schittshow. Italy, not much better. The U.K. in particular was long held up as an example what we might consider as an alternative to Congress. Then came Brexit.

    Is that what you want? Be careful what you ask for.


    What about Denmark? (5.00 / 2) (#78)
    by Jeralyn on Fri Feb 03, 2023 at 01:54:38 AM EST
    Have you watched Borgen? It's all about the fighting between the multi-democratic parties. After a few years hiatus, they came out with a season three. It's a really good show.

    Thanks For the Tip, Jeralyn (none / 0) (#79)
    by RickyJim on Sat Feb 04, 2023 at 06:00:23 PM EST
    The first three seasons are available on DVD and I plan to take season 1 out from my local public library.  According to Wikipedia, the first three came out in 2010, 2011 and 2013; the fourth in 2022.

    None of Those Countries Do it Right (none / 0) (#41)
    by RickyJim on Sat Jan 07, 2023 at 07:06:02 PM EST
    They don't have separate, co-equal legislative and executive branches which serve as a check and balance against the other.  France comes closer than the others. I would have a national election every two years alternating between legislative and presidential elections.  So each kind every 4 years.

    There was plenty of multi-factionalism on display in the House this week, within a single party. What bugged me the most was the inability to get a compromise candidate between Republicans and Democrats seriously discussed.  If no party had an outright majority, which would most likely be the case if there were 5 or 6 parties with a serious voice, a compromise candidate would have resulted.


    I predict a weeks long, (5.00 / 1) (#39)
    by Chuck0 on Sat Jan 07, 2023 at 05:28:26 PM EST
    possibly months long government shutdown before the end of 2023.

    Probably and (none / 0) (#44)
    by Ga6thDem on Sun Jan 08, 2023 at 11:40:38 AM EST
    expect Glenn Youngkin's presidential aspirations to circle the drain. Not that he had much of a chance of getting the nomination anyway.

    Of (5.00 / 1) (#45)
    by FlJoe on Tue Jan 10, 2023 at 02:29:11 PM EST
    course they would
    House Republicans moved to pre-emptively kill any investigations against its members as it curtailed the power of an independent ethics office just as it was weighing whether to open inquiries into lawmakers who defied subpoenas issued by the House January 6 select committee last year.

    Shorter Republican, "We don't need no stinkin ethics".

    Kernels of truth (5.00 / 1) (#46)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jan 10, 2023 at 02:46:05 PM EST

    New York Young Republicans Back George Santos
    January 10, 2023 at 1:02 pm EST By Taegan Goddard 102 Comments

    The New York Young Republican Club offered its support to embattled Rep. George Santos (R-NY), the Glen Head Herald reports.

    Said president Gavin Wax: "This is politics. Politics is about power. Democrats and the left understand this, and they circle the wagons against any of their controversial members, whether it's for lying or other things. If he resigned, we would lose the seat. And we will lose the vote. Simple as that."

    Wax added that a lot of Santos's fabrications are based on "kernels of truth."

    I wonder if this gutting the ethics committee (5.00 / 1) (#47)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jan 10, 2023 at 02:48:08 PM EST
    might make Jack more inclined to go after some of the ring leaders ?

    Since there will be no consequences otherwise


    I'd (none / 0) (#48)
    by FlJoe on Tue Jan 10, 2023 at 03:04:11 PM EST
    be surprised if there any serious consequences for the whole lot of them, from tRump on down. Maybe a sacrificial functionary or two will get a slap on the wrist but the rest of them will skate.

    I don't think so (none / 0) (#49)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jan 10, 2023 at 03:17:27 PM EST
    I understand the impulse to believe that but I don't think so.

    I think Jack is going to do his job but the important stuff, J6 Uprising, may take a while.  And while I think he will act on the classified stuff even that might take longer than it should.  This thing with the Biden classified docs is unfortunate.  It complicates things.

    But THIS

    The Fulton County special grand jury that has spent the last eight months examining potential criminal interference in Georgia's 2020 presidential election has completed its work and is being dissolved, according to the judge overseeing the high-profile panel.

    In a brief order issued Monday, Fulton Superior Court Judge Robert McBurney wrote that the grand jury has fulfilled its duties to his satisfaction.

    I was just reading that she does not need to wait for the release of the information from the first GJ.  That she can form a criminal GJ and give them all the information from the one that just closed.

    And that could happen very quickly.

    And he can't be pardoned by DeSanctimonious
    I guess he could be pardoned by Kemp but that seems unlikely as he grooms himself as the post Trump republican future


    Oh (none / 0) (#50)
    by FlJoe on Tue Jan 10, 2023 at 03:42:34 PM EST
    great another GJ, what this country needs are indictments and soon.

    True. (none / 0) (#52)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue Jan 10, 2023 at 03:57:51 PM EST
    The sooner indictments start rolling out the better the morale of the country is and maybe seeing people being held accountable will tamp down on the crazy a little.

    I don't think indictments (none / 0) (#57)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jan 10, 2023 at 04:10:36 PM EST
    will tamp down the crazy

    The first Fulton GJ (none / 0) (#54)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jan 10, 2023 at 04:02:44 PM EST
    was not a criminal one. She had to convene a second to bring charges.

    But the witnesses do not need to appear. Only their testimony.


    We (none / 0) (#58)
    by FlJoe on Tue Jan 10, 2023 at 04:14:55 PM EST
    all heard the phone call, why is the layer upon layer of scrutiny needed? I have seen this movie before with powerful Repugs and time after time if have been severely disappointed.

    Over my lifetime it seems their crimes have been getting bigger and the consequences (legal and politically) are becoming vanishing small.

    Republicans have come to the correct conclusion that they can get away with anything and the least honorable among them have predictably risen to the top.

    They don't need no stinkin ethics, indeed.


    Fani Willis (none / 0) (#51)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue Jan 10, 2023 at 03:43:00 PM EST
    is apparently thinking about indictments as we speak. There is a reason why Trump went after the ladies here in GA again the other day. He thinks Fani is going to indict him. Kemp may think he has a future in GOP politics but he's deluded. The guy really is not anti-Trump as the media would have you think. Kemp like Pence deserves a participation trophy for doing his job. Kemp cannot pardon him. No GA gov. can issue pardons. They are only done by the pardon and parole board.

    I don't know anything about Georgia (none / 0) (#53)
    by Peter G on Tue Jan 10, 2023 at 04:00:37 PM EST
    criminal procedure, but I must say I hadn't realized the GA grand jury was an "investigating GJ" and not an "indicting GJ." We have that distinction here in PA also. It does add a layer of slow-down to the process.

    They also say she doesn't have to wait (5.00 / 1) (#56)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jan 10, 2023 at 04:08:06 PM EST
    For the info to be released or anything else. She could do it as soon as the first one is officially closed

    Hopefully (none / 0) (#59)
    by FlJoe on Tue Jan 10, 2023 at 04:23:00 PM EST
    I am just being cynical and I hope she brings the hammer down soon. IMO it's the most slam dunk case against tRump that there is.

    I don't think we will need to wait long (none / 0) (#60)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jan 10, 2023 at 04:29:37 PM EST
    I don't think the need to act is lost on her.  Or Jack.

    That is (5.00 / 1) (#63)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue Jan 10, 2023 at 06:15:54 PM EST
    the impression I get. Trump may rue the day he decided to run again based solely on the fact that the case has been kicked over to special counsel especially to someone used to imprisoning international criminals.

    The TV legals (none / 0) (#55)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jan 10, 2023 at 04:04:50 PM EST
    Say that process can happen pretty quickly.

    Yes, the discovery (none / 0) (#61)
    by KeysDan on Tue Jan 10, 2023 at 05:46:17 PM EST
    of classified documents by Biden lawyers complicates the political backdrop to the Trump case of stealing documents and the obstruction of Justice.thereafter. From a criminal justice point-of-view, the cases appear dissimilar on every front. And, the appointment of the Trump appointed attorney for the Northern District of Illinois to look into this matter further offers additional information and evaluation. It seems necessary, that the dissimilarity needs to be underscored starting with what is a crime--with intent and deliberate--- vs.-- inadvertent.  

    Other cases of note, such as Petraeus, Sandy Berger or John Deutsch may be instructive. Petraeus and his girlfriend took documents, kept them in a closet for book purposes, Berger took docs out under his sweater, and destroyed them by cutting up with a scissors, and Deutsch labeled classified docs as unclassified on his computer.  Petraeus pretty much escaped accountability, Berger escaped jail and paid a fine, and Deutsch changed his original excuse, and plead guilty but was pardoned by President Clinton.


    The problem (5.00 / 1) (#62)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue Jan 10, 2023 at 06:13:56 PM EST
    I see here is the press. As with Hillary they are not going to explain what is going on with Biden's documents. The Trump case has ZERO to do with the classification of those documents only the theft.

    Yes, the media (none / 0) (#64)
    by KeysDan on Tue Jan 10, 2023 at 06:35:02 PM EST
    Is supplanting the Trump circus reporting with that of the fascist menagerie of insurrectionists, assorted miscreants, and liars.  The staid Democratic senate and the Biden Administration are no match for the buffoonery of the Republican House.  

    But now, the whataboutism handed to them has awakened the media, and they will run with it.


    Shining City on a Hill (5.00 / 3) (#65)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Jan 11, 2023 at 10:18:31 AM EST

    Exporting Trumpism
    January 11, 2023 at 10:02 am EST By Taegan Goddard 46 Comments

    Guga Chacra, a Brazilian political commentator, quoted by the New York Times:

    "If there was no Trump, there would be no Bolsonaro in Brazil. And if there was no invasion of the Capitol, there wouldn't have been the invasion we saw yesterday. Bolsonarismo tries to copy Trumpism, and Bolsonaro supporters in Brazil try to copy what Trump supporters do in the United States."

    Hmmm (none / 0) (#66)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Jan 11, 2023 at 03:16:13 PM EST

    Bonus Quote of the Day
    January 11, 2023 at 2:02 pm EST By Taegan Goddard 55 Comments

    "It is evidence that what happens in the United States has repercussions around the world. I have no doubt that that tragic day in January of 2021 in this country played some role in sowing the seeds of what's taking place in Brazil."

    -- Mike Pence, in an interview with CBS News, on the storming of the Congress in Brazil.

    Someone yesterday (none / 0) (#1)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jan 05, 2023 at 08:30:22 AM EST
    said his only goal is to become Speaker just long enough to get his portrait on the wall with all the others.

    That he doesn't care if he is booted at the first bill he tries to pass. He just want to say he did it.  He was Speaker of the House.  Which is why he is willing to give away all power and controll.

    Sounds right to me.  I think it's also why he still might do it.  But I would not bet on it.

    I think today might be a bit more interesting than yesterday.  People want this to be over.

    Just (5.00 / 1) (#12)
    by FlJoe on Thu Jan 05, 2023 at 03:38:50 PM EST
    to think that this circus is going to be in town for two whole years!

    Aren't we watching the "definition of insanity" play out live?


    Among the Many Things Confusing Me (none / 0) (#4)
    by RickyJim on Thu Jan 05, 2023 at 12:58:01 PM EST
    Apparently newly elected members of the House are voting for speaker even though they have not been sworn in yet.  Am I correct that the qualifications for Speaker are exactly the same as those for POTUS?

    None sworn in now (5.00 / 3) (#7)
    by Towanda on Thu Jan 05, 2023 at 02:59:31 PM EST
    Not just newbies. All need to be sworn in, each term.

    But the Constitution does not require they be sworn in to select the Speaker, as it requires only that the Speaker be chosen by "members-elect."


    It's annoying (none / 0) (#5)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jan 05, 2023 at 02:38:35 PM EST
    when she has to call their name over and over

    They literally have one job. Sit there and answer when their damn name is called

    The.Republican Party (5.00 / 2) (#6)
    by KeysDan on Thu Jan 05, 2023 at 02:57:14 PM EST
    aka American Fascist Party, needs to go the way of the Whigs.

    I rather have them (none / 0) (#8)
    by jondee on Thu Jan 05, 2023 at 03:09:33 PM EST
    wearing wigs and fishnet stockings.

    And they never once gave it away, everyone who had to pay them paid..a hustle here, a hustle there..

    In the name of Jesus and Markets.


    It's meant to be annoying (none / 0) (#9)
    by jmacWA on Thu Jan 05, 2023 at 03:15:36 PM EST
    since she was appointed by Pelosi as I understand it.

    Is Secure Electronic Voting Impossible? (none / 0) (#10)
    by RickyJim on Thu Jan 05, 2023 at 03:22:50 PM EST
    Or would it be too undignified?

    I believe (none / 0) (#11)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jan 05, 2023 at 03:31:52 PM EST
    they must be in the room.  Which could get interesting depending on how long this goes on

    They Had Such a System Since 1973 (none / 0) (#13)
    by RickyJim on Thu Jan 05, 2023 at 04:15:07 PM EST
    And it is the one they use. Maybe the problem is that it only allows yea, no and present.

    The Hill (none / 0) (#14)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jan 05, 2023 at 04:28:49 PM EST

    There will be no proxy votes. Not only have Republicans pledged to do away with pandemic-era remote voting rule, that procedure can only be used if the House has not adopted a rules package -- which happens after the Speaker election and members take their oaths of office. The 2021 Speaker election didn't have proxy votes, either.



    It surely can't be good for McCarthy (none / 0) (#15)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jan 05, 2023 at 05:18:38 PM EST
    that tomorrow is the 2nd anniversary of J6.

    The single most revealing episode in the history of his spinelessness and utter lack of principals

    Also (none / 0) (#16)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jan 05, 2023 at 06:31:04 PM EST
    annoying to hear again and again that the anti McCarthy people are the election deniers.

    McCarthy is the biggest election denier of all


    I think whatever promises (none / 0) (#18)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jan 06, 2023 at 04:10:46 PM EST
    McCarthy is making to whoever might be the wrong thing to worry about.

    I doubt he would think twice about ignoring any or all of them.

    If it is not in his interest to refuse to raise the debt cieling or fund the government he will do those things.  

    Worry about where he perceives his interests to be.  I think probably not in crashing the economy or pi$$ing off old folks by delaying their benefits.

    But I'm an optimist.

    Which by the way (none / 0) (#19)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jan 06, 2023 at 04:11:56 PM EST
    is exactly why he is having problems winning the 14th vote.

    And (none / 0) (#20)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jan 06, 2023 at 04:21:19 PM EST
    There is something strange and kind of awsum about endless news reports about how Democrats are worried about Republicans cutting military funding.

    Military funding (none / 0) (#21)
    by KeysDan on Fri Jan 06, 2023 at 04:26:09 PM EST
    to Ukraine?   Other military funding is A. OK.

    No (none / 0) (#22)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jan 06, 2023 at 04:59:11 PM EST
    Not what I was hearing today.  They want a freeze, if I heard correctly - while listening to an audiobook, on military spending across the board.  Which amounted to a big cut from what they are wanting.

    Maybe just Ukraine but not what it sounded like.


    Here (none / 0) (#23)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jan 06, 2023 at 05:01:51 PM EST
    If they (none / 0) (#27)
    by Ga6thDem on Sat Jan 07, 2023 at 09:28:52 AM EST
    were going to crash the economy by defaulting on debt they would have done it during Obama.

    Glad to hear the Dem's a creating a war room to respond to the crazies. Obama completely failed in the art of warfare with the GOP.


    I don't think that's true at all (none / 0) (#31)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Jan 07, 2023 at 10:16:04 AM EST
    there is a group who would love more than anything to crash the economy

    It's hard to believe they will be allowed to do it but a lot is happening that's hard to believe.


    Yes, there (none / 0) (#34)
    by Ga6thDem on Sat Jan 07, 2023 at 02:19:34 PM EST
    is a group now and a group then that would be perfectly fine with crashing the economy. They have decided since the return of the 50's is never gonna happen they would just as soon blow up the entire country.

    My point really was that that same group did not succeed in 2011 and probalby won't succeed now simply because there will be enough people that will call the GOP and say they will never donate again or they are going to give their money to democrats. I expect to see a repeat where the group is bypassed by leadership in the house like previously. If the SC finally gets going some of these may be under indictment when the debt ceiling rolls around.


    The Never Kevins (none / 0) (#37)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Jan 07, 2023 at 03:19:26 PM EST
    don't care at all about "people who donate".

    They get their funding a support from small dollar donations from people who love what they are doing.

    And it's not the same group.  It's a whole new group who make the Obama era Tea Party look like elder statesmen


    Correct (none / 0) (#42)
    by Ga6thDem on Sun Jan 08, 2023 at 11:15:37 AM EST
    I'm talking about McCarthy getting a call or the so called moderates.

    And while I like to think you are correct (none / 0) (#38)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Jan 07, 2023 at 03:22:33 PM EST
    they are trying to make sure they cannot be bypassed.

    With things like running the rules committee that decides what even gets voted on


    Don't the (none / 0) (#43)
    by Ga6thDem on Sun Jan 08, 2023 at 11:39:00 AM EST
    rules have to be approved by the entire GOP caucus? Of course, that doesn't mean they won't be approved but it will once again show that the so called moderates are completely spineless.

    While (none / 0) (#25)
    by FlJoe on Sat Jan 07, 2023 at 08:42:56 AM EST
    I normally condone violence, more of this please
    A tense moment on the House of Representatives floor resulted in a Republican member physically lunging at another who then had to be restrained from further escalation.

    The scuffle happened between Reps-elect Mike Rogers, R-Ala., and Matt Gaetz, R-Fla., after the 14th House speaker vote failed.

    A bunch (5.00 / 1) (#26)
    by Ga6thDem on Sat Jan 07, 2023 at 09:24:35 AM EST
    of clowns. I fear this is going to be very tiresome for the next 2 years hearing with the clown cavalcade running congress.

    They are going to star (none / 0) (#29)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Jan 07, 2023 at 10:13:33 AM EST
    in some great campaign ads

    I think you mean you don't condone (5.00 / 1) (#28)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Jan 07, 2023 at 10:11:44 AM EST
    I beat you by minutes. Or not.

    I had been thinking for a couple of days that someone was going to punch Gaetz before it was over


    And, Mike Rogers, (R.AL) (5.00 / 2) (#30)
    by KeysDan on Sat Jan 07, 2023 at 10:15:57 AM EST
    will be the Chairman of the Armed Services Committee.

    Violence is foundational to fascism, so we can expect more of this.  They had better re-install the metal detectors to the Chamber, pronto. (but they won't, because "freedumb".  


    Randy Rainbow.. (none / 0) (#69)
    by desertswine on Tue Jan 24, 2023 at 01:07:33 PM EST
    That didn't seem to work, sorry. (none / 0) (#70)
    by desertswine on Wed Jan 25, 2023 at 03:14:59 PM EST
    It worked on my computer, (none / 0) (#71)
    by leap2 on Wed Jan 25, 2023 at 03:33:04 PM EST
    after the d@mn yootoob ads.

    You can subscribe to You Tube Premium (none / 0) (#77)
    by Jeralyn on Fri Feb 03, 2023 at 01:50:56 AM EST
    which is ad-free for $9.99 a month. Once upon a time I hated only auto-play videos. Now I hate all TV advertising. Even I leave the room so as not to be exposed to their content, I consider the time ads air on my TV  as minutes sucked from my life-span. Extreme? Probably. But the clicking time clock from "60 Minutes" literally goes off in my head when an ad comes on.

    At least with Hulu, Peacock, Discovery Plus, and a few more streaming channels, we can pay a few dollars extra a month to avoid ads. Fast forwarding to avoid the ads rarely works anymore, plus I'm just as likely to back up or FF too much so that by the time I get to where I want to be, it took twice as long as if I'd just watched the stupid ad to begin with.

    And it still irks me that they track our viewing habits and know our demographics from our IP addresses to the point that all I get are drug ads for old and sick people, while if I watch on a device using cellular instead of Wi-FI, I get ads for new cars, restaurants and other things that at least aren't as depressing to watch.

    Netflix will be restoring ads soon. Which will only make You Tube premium that much more valuable to me. (You Tube live TV doesn't offer an ad-free version, only the You Tube video and music sites do).


    And hurray! (none / 0) (#72)
    by leap2 on Wed Jan 25, 2023 at 03:36:01 PM EST
    Randy Rainbow is back! He has LOTS of material, unfortunately.

    I think (none / 0) (#75)
    by Zorba on Wed Jan 25, 2023 at 07:04:55 PM EST
    He was not making his YouTubes because he was busy doing a tour across the country.

    Could it be (none / 0) (#73)
    by Peter G on Wed Jan 25, 2023 at 03:38:18 PM EST
    Yes that's the one... (none / 0) (#76)
    by desertswine on Thu Jan 26, 2023 at 11:37:26 AM EST
    where Randy calls McFarty a power-hungry whore.  Thanks.

    I love (none / 0) (#74)
    by Zorba on Wed Jan 25, 2023 at 07:03:00 PM EST