Thursday Open Thread: Moving Day

I am getting ready to move this weekend. It's kind of sudden, but construction began last week on a new apartment project directly across the street from me -- a very narrow street. It's going to ruin my view of downtown and already is incredibly noisy, from 6 am to 6 pm. And they haven't even started demolishing the six structures on the lot yet, or running wiring or water lines to it. (It will take up a full city block and construction will take more than a year and a half).

So I'm moving down the hall to a unit with the exact same floor plan as my current place but it faces directly west. I'll be out of sight (and earshot) of the construction, have more mountains to look at and a lot more bright sunlight. But the move has taken up all my non-working time this week. Hiring movers, remembering to call the electric company and phone and internet company to stop service at one place and start at the other...move-out and move-in inspections, and on and on. It's really no less complicated and almost as expensive as moving across town. But the sound of those dump trucks and tractors which beep incessantly starting at 6 a.m. was just too much.

So you are all way ahead of me on the news. Which means another open thread. Wish me luck, I need it the next few days!

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    Moving zucks (5.00 / 5) (#1)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Mar 10, 2022 at 06:47:35 AM EST
    Great sketch Captain (5.00 / 1) (#2)
    by jmacWA on Thu Mar 10, 2022 at 07:16:13 AM EST
    SO, was looking at my machine and liked it too...

    beautiful drawing, capt'n (5.00 / 2) (#3)
    by leap2 on Thu Mar 10, 2022 at 09:19:23 AM EST
    my favorite beeetle

    Nah, George (none / 0) (#6)
    by MKS on Thu Mar 10, 2022 at 11:33:37 AM EST
    Not Paul (5.00 / 1) (#7)
    by MKS on Thu Mar 10, 2022 at 11:34:02 AM EST
    I've been reading up on the Polish Migs (none / 0) (#8)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Thu Mar 10, 2022 at 12:09:05 PM EST
    Having Ukr pilots fly them from Poland would cross NATO airspace.

    Also while the Ukr pilots "could" fly the planes, there are enough differences such that Ukr would probably need to retrofit the planes and do at least some pilot training.


    I (none / 0) (#13)
    by FlJoe on Thu Mar 10, 2022 at 02:31:45 PM EST
    think the whole thing is a bit of a red herring anyways. Judging by the arc of the war so far those aircraft would be inconsequential.

    Surprisingly The entire air war has been something of a nothingburger with neither side willing to commit a lot of aircraft.


    Agreed (none / 0) (#22)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Thu Mar 10, 2022 at 07:23:22 PM EST
    I think we gave Ukraine something better (none / 0) (#23)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Mar 10, 2022 at 08:22:51 PM EST
    I think the UK did too. Ukraine reports 10 enemy aircraft down today. But who knows if that means destroyed or the Belarus pilots flew them into Ukraine and nabbed themselves the 1,000,000 Ukraine is offering for enemy fixed wing being landed and given to them? A girl hopes. We haven't got any footage of destroyed aircraft today. Doesn't mean we won't see it tomorrow.

    At this point though most everything is being done quietly.


    What sources (5.00 / 1) (#41)
    by MKS on Fri Mar 11, 2022 at 02:48:35 PM EST
    do you have?

    I would love to know where I could find such info.  I look at among other things, the Twitter feeds of the Kyiv Independent and their War Correspondent, a young guy who btw did say that a Russian jeet was sent to "meet Elvis" today....

    So, that is one.  There is another 9?


    I like (5.00 / 1) (#47)
    by BGinCA on Fri Mar 11, 2022 at 06:59:22 PM EST
    Too many years being within the US military (none / 0) (#52)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Mar 12, 2022 at 09:20:56 AM EST
    Bureaucracy. I can't remember where they let out that NATO was giving Ukraine more S300. Kyiv had them before the invasion. One reason the Russians haven't hit Kyiv proper very hard. They will get shotdown.

    When there is a war on, important equipment gives are very downplayed. Never a headline. Always a blurb. Because Ukraine already has a few, giving them some more seems to be something NATO doesn't consider an escalation.


    I follow him too, he's very good (none / 0) (#53)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Mar 12, 2022 at 09:33:54 AM EST
    Keep an eye on Military Times for news about arms shares. That may change though, they fired the boss unexpectedly a few days ago. Don't know why.

    Old habit though, I read everything war related. Since Iraq and Afghanistan I have strange hobbies now.

    Also, when I have questions I have the arms expert in house.

    I learned something completely new today from him to keep an eye on. A MiG29 can take off from a dirt road. They can close their air intake so it doesn't suck in a bunch of dirt and rocks. Incredible! And Putin can blow up all the runways he wants. Now we all know how Ukraine was able to hide their MiG29s and they weren't sitting at airports that Russia hit on day 1.

    He could have told all of us this weeks ago, but no LOL


    Someone said today (none / 0) (#24)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Mar 10, 2022 at 08:42:30 PM EST
    the problem with the Polish jet deal is that it became public.

    It may have been intended (none / 0) (#27)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Mar 10, 2022 at 08:49:43 PM EST
    To be a sort of head fake. Poland wanted to do this thing and the US flexed on them. Put them in their place because we are scared of Putin. And while everyone including narcissist Putin focused on that....

    I couldn't believe NATO allowed the report of their loitering aircraft over Poland monitoring all the aircraft coming out of Russia and Belarus. But we were all getting too upset. They had to give us something.


    Our Vice President was very distracted (none / 0) (#29)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Mar 10, 2022 at 08:52:35 PM EST
    That gave me more concern than anything. But Duda is a snake too. Can't be pleasant.

    I (none / 0) (#31)
    by FlJoe on Fri Mar 11, 2022 at 06:45:45 AM EST
    think that is it, someone came up with a plausible deal and stupidly mentioned it to the public. On closer inspection that move ended up being more symbolic than substantive.

    Symbolism has it's place in warfare but in this case it might be counter productive as Putin could also use it (see I told you NATO was coming for us).

    I think eventually the generals and pols got together and decided it wasn't worth the effort. I think in the end the whole hot potato kabuki that followed was to set up to allow the US to take the PR/political hit from finally nixing the deal.


    I don't have much of a view (5.00 / 1) (#4)
    by McBain on Thu Mar 10, 2022 at 09:52:20 AM EST
    which is probably why I spend a lot of time outdoors.  I don't understand how they can allow noisy construction to start at 6am?  Good luck with the move!

    While Republican politicians in the stupid states (5.00 / 2) (#16)
    by desertswine on Thu Mar 10, 2022 at 03:55:35 PM EST
    have been passing cruel laws targeted against minorities, New Mexico has shown what good Democrat government can accomplish.  The guv signed...
    ...legislation that would deliver tuition-free higher education to every New Mexican. Senate Bill 140, the New Mexico Opportunity Scholarship Act, would provide $85.5 million toward the Opportunity Scholarship in what would be the most accessible state-funded scholarship program in the country.

    We got us free higher education.

    Also, they got rid of the income tax on social security...  finally.

    Color me shocked, I say Shocked (5.00 / 1) (#25)
    by MO Blue on Thu Mar 10, 2022 at 08:44:44 PM EST
    The delay in the administration's decision to impose a ban on Russian oil is a testament to the intricate and knotty web that binds our nation's political ties to the oil and gas industry. Big Oil's grip on Washington D.C. is deep and sustained, with annual lobbying funds among the highest of any industry-over $115 million in 2021.

    Campaign contributions have been generous and targeted to climate-denying lawmakers. Take ExxonMobil: Of the nearly $1 million the corporation contributed to congressional incumbent campaigns during the 2019-20 election cycle, 40% was funneled to 115 of the 150 climate science deniers still in office. It also shouldn't come as a surprise that professed climate supporter, Senator Joe Manchin-the runaway leader in Congress of Big Oil contributions (four times more than the number two recipient)-has been an eager industry champion, rejecting key climate policies, including a ban on new drilling.

    A Wake-Up Call for Clean Energy Independence

    This is a stupid thing (5.00 / 1) (#61)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Mar 13, 2022 at 08:47:42 AM EST
    hardly worth any bandwidth with all going on but it's sad at least to me when an actor you have always enjoyed watching says or does something so stupid and hateful you will never be able to enjoy his work again.  

    I won't repeat his crap but you can read about it if you want

    But Jane Campion had the perfect response.

    "He's not a cowboy, he's an actor."

    Guess he really (none / 0) (#66)
    by Zorba on Sun Mar 13, 2022 at 10:49:57 AM EST
    hated Brokeback Mountain, then. Although, that's a neo-Western, not about the "Old" West.
    Does he think there were no homosexuals or bisexuals back then? I mean, come on.

    It's really the most insulting thing (none / 0) (#67)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Mar 13, 2022 at 10:58:12 AM EST
    a person, like myself, who grew up in a hostile environment can hear.  That it didn't exist because they didn't know about it.

    I've heard this my whole life.  About the army, navy and merchant marines.


    I'm just (none / 0) (#71)
    by Zorba on Sun Mar 13, 2022 at 01:44:34 PM EST
    So sorry, Captain.
    I'm in my 70's, and although we've come a long way since I was young, we seem to be sliding backwards in a lot of ways.
    When will we, as a human race, really grow up?

    And, if (none / 0) (#81)
    by KeysDan on Sun Mar 13, 2022 at 05:57:10 PM EST
    they don't hear about it, it doesn't exist. Or see it, it doesn't exist.  Hence, the don't say gay stuff.  Erase the gay like in the good old days.  As Samuel Goldwyn was  reported to say about gay actors, can we just call them Bulgarians?

    Yes, he is (none / 0) (#68)
    by KeysDan on Sun Mar 13, 2022 at 11:07:55 AM EST
    not a cowboy, but Thomas Savage, whose book the movie is based on, was a wrangler and ranch hand.  It is as if the 77-year old actor   Is new to the business of movie-making when he seems upset that  Power of the Dog is set in Montana but filmed in New Zealand.  He had no comment on the movie being set in 1925, but filmed in 2022.  

    Elliott likes those authentic John Wayne Westerns or those Spaghetti Westerns.   No Brokeback Mountains in his vistas.  


    One wonders what Yosemite Sam ... (none / 0) (#89)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Mon Mar 14, 2022 at 01:12:59 AM EST
    ... thought of Sergio Leone's Once Upon a Time in the West (1968), Sam Peckinpah's The Wild Bunch (1969), William Fraker's Monty Walsh (1969) Peckinpah's Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid (1971) and Robert Altman's McCabe and Mrs. Miller (1971).

    Those films, which many critics arguably consider some of the best westerns ever made, introduced a raw and often visceral realism to movie audiences, which at the time were radical departures from Hollywood's traditional formulaic work product.

    Or, maybe it's not about westerns, per se. Maybe it's because Sam Elliot just doesn't like gay people. But if that's the case, then why did he agree to co-star with Lily Tomlin in Grandma (2015), in which her clearly gay character rejects his amorous advances?

    Some people really are hopelessly complicated.


    Sam Elliott is a manly man, (none / 0) (#72)
    by leap2 on Sun Mar 13, 2022 at 02:43:04 PM EST
    dontcha know.  He'd be nothing without that mustache.

    You wonder if anyone (none / 0) (#73)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Mar 13, 2022 at 03:29:21 PM EST
    ever told him just how gay, in a purely descriptive non pejorative way, that mustache really is.

    Yu also wonder if this was as simple (none / 0) (#74)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Mar 13, 2022 at 04:20:27 PM EST
    as a PR stunt.  There has been a lot written about how huge a hit this is with the American right

    `Yellowstone' Prequel `1883' Dominates Ratings Despite Critic Calling It, `Family Values Conservatism'

    FWIW I thought t was pretty good.

    Vanity Fair even wrote about how it was a bit if a bait and switch for conservatives

    But with a series this hot stuff like this probably doesn't just get said.  Without some thought for the effect in the product.


    Wrong VF link (none / 0) (#75)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Mar 13, 2022 at 04:28:12 PM EST
    Not all that red state (none / 0) (#117)
    by MKS on Tue Mar 15, 2022 at 01:49:31 PM EST
    conservative beneath the surface.

    The Duttons prime directive is protecting the land against development.

    Kevin Costner's daughter allies with a progressive activist, who happens to be having an affair with Costner, to stop development.

    The Godfather meets the West.


    1883 as family values (none / 0) (#119)
    by MKS on Tue Mar 15, 2022 at 01:57:25 PM EST

    Well, they may not be watching that closely. Faith Hill tells her daughter there are no rules about sexual conduct except what is in your heart.  Her daughter then begins an affair with a cowboy, and then runs off with a Commanche warrior.  No preacher or wedding in either case, although it was clear the pairing in each instance was meant to be permanent.


    Never fall back again (5.00 / 1) (#122)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Mar 15, 2022 at 02:30:48 PM EST
    Senate Agrees on Permanent Daylight Savings Time
    March 15, 2022 at 3:27 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard 88 Comments

    "A bipartisan group of senators has tried and failed, for Congress after Congress, to keep America on Daylight Saving Time permanently," Politico reports.

    "Until Tuesday, when their bright idea finally cleared the chamber."

    "The quick and consequential move happened so fast that several senators said afterward they were unaware of what had just happened."

    Washingtonian: The US tried permanent Daylight Saving Time in the '70s. People hated it.

    Why? (none / 0) (#150)
    by desertswine on Thu Mar 17, 2022 at 12:55:37 PM EST
    Why Daylight Savings time and not the Standard Time?    

    Couldn't say (none / 0) (#152)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Mar 17, 2022 at 02:44:25 PM EST
    My personal biological clock seems to agree more with DST.

    But I don't have strong feelings either way.

    Why is a good question.  Who wanted this?


    Who wanted this? (5.00 / 1) (#159)
    by leap2 on Thu Mar 17, 2022 at 06:47:59 PM EST
    The Senate. Because they have nothing better to do. What a useless bunch of pirates.

    The owner of a liquor store (5.00 / 4) (#148)
    by KeysDan on Thu Mar 17, 2022 at 11:44:13 AM EST
    got a call during the night.  "This is Paddy O'Brien  When does your shop open?"  "we just closed and will re-open in the morning," said the shop owner.  A few hours later Paddy calls again sounding a bit in his cups----"How long till you re-open?" The exasperated shopkeeper shouts into the phone,  I just told you, in the morning!  An hour later Paddy calls again, very drunk and asls the same question. "You drunken fool, I said in the morning, besides you sound like you have had more than enough to drink".  A confused Paddy responds, "I do have plenty to drink, what I need is a way out of your shop."

    Happy St. Patrick's Day to TL colleagues!

    Good news (5.00 / 1) (#158)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Mar 17, 2022 at 06:17:49 PM EST
    They are reporting on CNN (5.00 / 2) (#161)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Mar 18, 2022 at 09:20:41 AM EST
    about the Biden Xi video call.  They say it's being reported in China that the US wanted the call and needs the help of China to stop the violence.

    This actually seems promising to me.  It sounds like they are telling people why they will help the poor Americans with their problem.

    They (5.00 / 2) (#162)
    by FlJoe on Fri Mar 18, 2022 at 09:51:42 AM EST
    also reporting that Chinese were playing videos of civilian casualties.

    The Chinese can step in and play the good guys(now that Russia's problems are obvious), they will probably get undeserved credit for doing so, but so be it if it ends this thing quickly.


    When democracy goes on the march (none / 0) (#163)
    by Militarytracy on Fri Mar 18, 2022 at 11:46:55 AM EST
    Everyone needs to lighten up (5.00 / 1) (#166)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Mar 19, 2022 at 03:56:24 PM EST
    Hmmm... (5.00 / 1) (#177)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Mar 20, 2022 at 06:10:02 PM EST

    Clarence Thomas Hospitalized
    March 20, 2022 at 7:22 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard 53 Comments

    "Supreme Court Associate Justice Clarence Thomas has been admitted to a hospital and diagnosed with an infection," USA Today reports.

    "Thomas, the most senior associate justice on the high court, is being treated with intravenous antibiotics, the court said, and his symptoms are abating."

    Judge Ketanji Jackson (5.00 / 1) (#185)
    by KeysDan on Tue Mar 22, 2022 at 06:16:24 PM EST
    Is doing a great job in the confirmation hearing, fielding questions and explaining legal issues.  Indeed, her explanations of originalism,  textualism and other means to interpret the Constitution put viewers in a law classroom.  Even the hostile senators, I.e., Republicans acknowledged her brilliance, credentials, and knowledge of the law.  

    It would be a challenge to find a senator more obnoxious that Cruz, but Hawley managed to surpass him, but only until it was time for Cotton.  That boy is not right.

    The hearings give the tip off, if one was needed, that 2022 and 2024;  for Republicans, will be ell about CRT and crime. And, for their appointees on the Supreme Court, they expect the fall of same sex marriage.

    It was fun (none / 0) (#186)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Mar 22, 2022 at 07:41:12 PM EST
    watching her run rhetorical circles around Tom Cotton.

    I though he was going to cry.


    People on twitter (none / 0) (#188)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue Mar 22, 2022 at 09:01:23 PM EST
    were commenting that Cotton looked like he was afraid Jackson was going to sentence him to jail.

    The problem is affirmative action (none / 0) (#190)
    by Peter G on Wed Mar 23, 2022 at 11:17:40 AM EST
    In order to get enough ultraconservatives into the classes at Harvard and Yale Law Schools for a modicum of political diversity, the admissions offices obviously have had to lower their standards. How else can you explain Cruz (Harvard), Cotton (Harvard), or Hawley (Yale)? I mean seriously, compare them with Jackson (Harvard) or Booker (Yale), just f'rinstance. Are they intellectually comparable?

    I wouldn't open that can of worms (1.00 / 4) (#192)
    by ladybug on Wed Mar 23, 2022 at 11:32:21 AM EST
    because the natural comparison might be Joe Biden's educational credentials?

    They are clueless (none / 0) (#187)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue Mar 22, 2022 at 09:00:47 PM EST
    if they think that same sex marriage is going to be overturned. Gorsuch already decided that is going to stay.

    Indiana Republican Sen. Mike Braun (5.00 / 1) (#198)
    by MO Blue on Wed Mar 23, 2022 at 02:12:21 PM EST
    thinks that the Supreme Court should not have legalized  interracial marriages. Someone needs to ask Clarence Thomas if he believes that decision should be overturned.

    He walked that back as a mistake and (5.00 / 1) (#199)
    by ladybug on Wed Mar 23, 2022 at 02:20:05 PM EST
    I kind of believe that since it is hard to believe anyone really thinks that. But it would really be news if he doubled down on it out of principle, like he does on other issues.

    He believes (5.00 / 2) (#200)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed Mar 23, 2022 at 02:51:34 PM EST
    it but knows it isn't appropriate to say these days. White supremacy is a foundational belief of conservatism.

    Same (5.00 / 3) (#202)
    by FlJoe on Wed Mar 23, 2022 at 02:57:57 PM EST
    old pattern stupid Republican Senator says the quiet part out loud, blowback ensues, tepid "walkback", trolls and the media forgive and forget.

    Education and crime are not (none / 0) (#191)
    by ladybug on Wed Mar 23, 2022 at 11:20:20 AM EST
    partisan issues.
    Most Believe Public Schools Are on Wrong Track
    March 23, 2022 at 11:30 am EDT By Taegan Goddard 108 Comments

    A new Selzer & Co. poll finds nearly two in three voters, including broad majorities across racial, educational and economic lines, believe public schools in the United States are headed off on the wrong track.

    The Hill article being referenced is a good summary, I think.


    Those (5.00 / 1) (#201)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed Mar 23, 2022 at 02:54:56 PM EST
    don't say what you think they say. Many people in my area would say yes, the public schools are on the wrong track because conservatives want to wage a culture war in the schools. Conservatives are also stupidly convinced that nobody likes them because they have been coerced not that conservative ideas flatly just suck. People here would say the schools are attempting to lie to their own students about history. Conservatives can no longer teach the lost cause and so they would rather destroy public schools than change & grow up.

    I Read the Article (none / 0) (#193)
    by RickyJim on Wed Mar 23, 2022 at 11:59:12 AM EST
    and still don't know what most Americans don't like about what schools are teaching.  I am old enough to remember complaints about "progressive education" before most of the present complainers were born, so I take such polling with a grain of salt.  It is more obvious when the public blames inflation for their unhappiness with the current situation.  

    It is difficult for me to understand the (none / 0) (#194)
    by ladybug on Wed Mar 23, 2022 at 12:20:28 PM EST
    partisan nature of these debates. I teach in a state university with a large proportion of traditionally disadvantaged students and so the education issue is foremost on my mind, although the economy, crime and war are way up there too. People will have different opinions on why the schools are failing but most agree they are in bad shape and parents can see it, especially after the last two years of lockdown schooling. That's why I say it is not a partisan issue.

    I'm more inclined to believe the problem (none / 0) (#195)
    by Chuck0 on Wed Mar 23, 2022 at 12:43:23 PM EST
    lies with spoiled children, constantly staring at cell phones, who don't apply themselves and already believe they know everything. Also with parents who refuse believe little Jonny or Sally can do no wrong.

    And yeah, get off my lawn!!!


    Wow--I agree about the cell phones but (none / 0) (#196)
    by ladybug on Wed Mar 23, 2022 at 12:55:22 PM EST
    don't know if it's because they are "spoiled" or it is just because checking the cell phone is more fun and even addictive. Reading and writing skills are often substituted now with "visual literacy," so I hope the younger generation will be better skilled to teach that way than I am. But reading and writing skills are in decline for many students.

    I (none / 0) (#197)
    by FlJoe on Wed Mar 23, 2022 at 01:40:43 PM EST
    don't even need to read the article.
    The right considers public education nothing more than CRT indoctrination camps that need to be destroyed and reborn in their image.

    The left fears they are succeeding.


    I've always thought it amusing that ... (none / 0) (#5)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Thu Mar 10, 2022 at 10:15:14 AM EST
    ... no matter what the actual distance of your relocation, which in your case is just down the hall, it's always relatively the same amount of work to first pack your stuff up at your old place and then unpack it at your new abode. Have fun, Jeralyn.

    I have a friend who lives in South Korea (none / 0) (#9)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Mar 10, 2022 at 01:25:12 PM EST
    He is very upset about this.  

    conservatives win in South Korea

    He is an excited expat hate america guy so the talk that the new guy would want closer ties to the US while being harder on China and NK is very upsetting to him.

    I can't really see how that would be bad but whatever.

    Yeah, (none / 0) (#10)
    by Ga6thDem on Thu Mar 10, 2022 at 01:51:23 PM EST
    I can't see that as being bad either. But I also don't follow S. Korea politics.

    Neither does he (none / 0) (#11)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Mar 10, 2022 at 01:58:14 PM EST
    Actually said that in the same messenger post.

    We did not discuss that I think it's weird to choose to live in a country and "know almost nothing about the politics".

    He's there for a woman.  Shrug


    I (none / 0) (#15)
    by FlJoe on Thu Mar 10, 2022 at 03:38:57 PM EST
    thought we were already very tight (minus the tRump years)

    Jeralyn (none / 0) (#12)
    by Ga6thDem on Thu Mar 10, 2022 at 02:15:31 PM EST
    I think you have the hardest time moving of anybody. I'm so sorry though this doesn't sound all that bad except for it being drug out. I have moved across town that was worse than moving to another state simply because it seemed like I was moving FOREVER.

    Good (none / 0) (#14)
    by MO Blue on Thu Mar 10, 2022 at 03:26:35 PM EST
    Novak Djokovic withdraws from Indian Wells, Miami Open over COVID-19 vaccine protocols

    If you don't want to obey the rules, you need to be willing to face the consequences. Looks like Djokovic is doing just that.

    I think we got him! Finally. (none / 0) (#17)
    by KeysDan on Thu Mar 10, 2022 at 04:43:42 PM EST
    In an interview, Trump explained why he always plays the Village People's 1978 "YMCA".  "It reallly gets them going.  It's the gay National  Anthem, -- did you know that?"  
    So, clearly, he violated Florida's new "Don't Say Gay" law.  Arrest is imminent,  says DeSantis, probably.

    I just threw up a little (none / 0) (#18)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Mar 10, 2022 at 04:53:42 PM EST
    in my mouth.

    Among reasons (none / 0) (#20)
    by KeysDan on Thu Mar 10, 2022 at 05:54:45 PM EST
    for the war in Ukraine is "gay parades" sais Russian Orthodox Patriarch Kirill-- a.dear friend of Putin.  And, Republican Representative Madison Cauthorne said Zelensky is a thug and Ukraine is about wokeness-- a reason for Russia's attack.

    This is so funny (none / 0) (#21)
    by MO Blue on Thu Mar 10, 2022 at 06:23:33 PM EST
    Thanks for the laugh. Definitely, the gay National Anthem and here the orange one and his idiot sycophants keep promoting the lifestyle at all their events. I would like to see this "promotion" brought up at one of DeSantis' news events. I won't count on it happening but it would be fantastic if it did.

    He's mad. (none / 0) (#39)
    by KeysDan on Fri Mar 11, 2022 at 12:53:56 PM EST
    YouTube removed this interview. "Whatever happened to free speech, but not surprising the Big Tech lunatics have taken down my interview.."  Which was very popular, he noted.

    YouTube is not in the business of free speech, that's the domain of government. TFG was not arrested, like the Russian Orthodox priest who spoke out against the war from his pulpit in accord with his dear friend Putin's new law.

      But, then, government is not TFG's field and his supporters knew that when they voted for him and didn't care.    


    Marilyn Manson sues Evan Rachel Wood (none / 0) (#19)
    by McBain on Thu Mar 10, 2022 at 05:52:50 PM EST
    and another woman.
    Marilyn Manson is suing actor and former girlfriend Evan Rachel Wood in connection with her allegations that he raped and abused her over the course of their relationship less than two weeks before Wood is set to star in an HBO documentary.

    This isn't just defamation, there's an alleged conspiracy...
    Howard King, the lawyer representing Manson, alleged in a statement and in the lawsuit filing that the women forged a letter impersonating an FBI agent who claimed to be investigating Manson. He accused Wood and Gore of using the letter to recruit other women to make allegations and to persuade HBO to publish their documentary.

    The HBO documentary "Phoenix Rising" is scheduled to premiere March 15.  Perhaps the lawsuit is an attempt to stop that.

    Sentenced. (none / 0) (#26)
    by KeysDan on Thu Mar 10, 2022 at 08:45:44 PM EST
    Jesse Smollett.  150 days in county jail and 30 months  probation.  Restitution to city of $120,000 and fine of $25,000.

    A serious conviction, but the sentence seems harsh.  

    European Plan (none / 0) (#28)
    by MO Blue on Thu Mar 10, 2022 at 08:50:15 PM EST
    The key with the European plan is that it recognizes the importance of a simultaneous approach to energy security that accelerates the expansion of renewable energy infrastructure while phasing out fossil fuels. European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen's statement sums it up: "We are doubling down on renewables. This will increase Europe's strategic independence on energy."

    Is the EU plan doable? The International Energy Agency seems to think so, asserting that its 10-Point Plan "shows how the EU can cut gas imports from Russia within a year while supporting the transition to clean energy in a secure and affordable way."

    A Wake-Up Call for Clean Energy Independence

    THe first (5.00 / 1) (#30)
    by Ga6thDem on Thu Mar 10, 2022 at 09:55:49 PM EST
    time we had a "gas crisis" was when I was in middle school in the early 70's. Back then you went to the gas pump by your license plate odd or even though I believe there was a price freeze so gas was affordable. Then in the late 70's there was one, then during the Gulf War there was one, then after 9/11 there was one and now here we are again. I am beyond sick of this and I hope my next car can be electric.

    Michael Weiss is on MJoe (none / 0) (#32)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Mar 11, 2022 at 07:36:59 AM EST
    He says there are reports of gangs of Russian soldiers deserting, refusing to fight the war, but taking up residence in residential areas and raiding stores and people and just becoming like raiding parties.  Not to fight for either side.

    That is some seriously dystopian shite right there

    The Russian military has always (none / 0) (#33)
    by Militarytracy on Fri Mar 11, 2022 at 08:11:41 AM EST
    Bumped up against this kind of behavior. Terrorizing civilians is something they even get to do at home in Russia if they have a bit of rank.

    They have always deserted (none / 0) (#34)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Mar 11, 2022 at 08:14:11 AM EST
    in large numbers?

    There was always that risk if you (none / 0) (#35)
    by Militarytracy on Fri Mar 11, 2022 at 08:32:41 AM EST
    Tried to cannon fodder them in an urban environment. Nobody wants to desert in Syria, but deserting in Ukraine probably feels pretty safe.

    How much loyalty can you have when a body incinerator is following you around, and Russian soldier bodies aren't even being retrieved?

    Wait till the Syrians get there. They didn't come to fight. They came to surrender to Ukraine and hopefully become citizens.


    Sure I get it (none / 0) (#36)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Mar 11, 2022 at 08:36:52 AM EST
    It's what I would do.  But what happens to them if they are caught?  Can't be good.

    They needed to surrender (none / 0) (#37)
    by Militarytracy on Fri Mar 11, 2022 at 08:56:23 AM EST
    Maybe they didn't get the message about surrendering. If fellow Russians find them they'll probably try to reintegrate them back in. Russia needs every warm body right now. If Ukrainian forces get to them they are probably goners.

    The Texas Supreme Court (none / 0) (#38)
    by KeysDan on Fri Mar 11, 2022 at 12:09:58 PM EST
    dealt a final blow to abortion providers' federal challenge to SB8, the "fugitive uterus" act. The Texas Supreme Court ruled medical licensing officials do not have authority to enforce the law which bans abortion after about six weeks (counting from the last menstrual period).

    The law has a private enforcement mechanism (that seemed to baffle the US Supreme Court so much that it could not rule on it) that empowers private citizens to sue anyone who "aids or abets" an abortion after "fetal cardiac activity" about six weeks, as defined.

    Texas SB8 remains in place in Texas for the foreseeable future given the theofascist tide.  

    You would (none / 0) (#40)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Mar 11, 2022 at 02:20:43 PM EST
    hope Texas women would rise up against this nonsense but it seems they are perfectly okay with all this. Already there is a case of a woman forced to birth for a rapist.

    The theofascism is catching. (none / 0) (#42)
    by KeysDan on Fri Mar 11, 2022 at 03:08:35 PM EST
    Missouri is now considering a bill to ban abortions after 10 weeks and to ban abortion of ectopic pregnancies.  Extra-uterus pregnancies are non-viable and threaten the life of the woman.  

    It is almost as if these guys hate women and don't mind if they die.    Maybe, a chance to get a new model.


    My wife's life was saved by the prompt action (5.00 / 1) (#46)
    by Peter G on Fri Mar 11, 2022 at 06:45:40 PM EST
    of her ob-gyn, who detected an acute ectopic pregnancy during a routine prenatal exam, and rushed her into surgery. She freely tells this story to explain how an abortion saved her life. We had a two-year old at the time, and were able to have two more kids after that. I didn't even know what an ectopic pregnancy was at that time.

    You probably know this (none / 0) (#50)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Mar 12, 2022 at 07:47:31 AM EST
    But. Didn't see it in the comment above.

    "Missouri lawmakers are reviewing a Republican-backed bill that would ban abortions after 10 weeks, and make it a crime to terminate deadly ectopic pregnancies, punishable with many years in prison," Insider reports.

    Ectopic pregnancies occur when a fertilized egg implants and grows outside the uterus, most often in the fallopian tube, and can be life-threatening for the mother if left untreated. The fetus can't survive to be carried to term.

    This is really insanity.  I'm for treating dangerously insane people like they are dangerously insane.  To much tap dancing is done for fear if insulting their "faith".


    My wife had an ectopic pregnancy. (none / 0) (#58)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Sat Mar 12, 2022 at 11:33:01 PM EST
    It was our first pregnancy. It was early on. I had no available bandwidth beyond my concern for her. For her pain and bleeding and health and safety.

    After her D&C as they rolled her into the recovery room, she looked at me through her crying eyes and said "they took our baby."

    Unless I see something to the contrary, I do not think this particular legislation will "make it a crime to terminate deadly ectopic pregnancies, punishable with many years in prison."

    Missouri Anti-Abortion Bill Sows Confusion Over Ectopic Pregnancies

    [...] In an email, Seitz said his bill has been misrepresented and that he'll offer an amendment next week to clarify the language. "This bill does nothing to curtail that LEGAL activity, as it can present a clear and present danger to the mother," he said about the treatment of ectopic pregnancies. He added that the bill "is designed to curtail the illegal transportation, manufacture, sale, use, etc. of otherwise legal drugs."

    Here is the bill.


    Really sorry (5.00 / 1) (#69)
    by Ga6thDem on Sun Mar 13, 2022 at 12:30:11 PM EST
    to hear about your wife. I am sure that was incredibly painful for both of you.

    A lady I worked with had an ectopic pregnancy and had no idea. She passed out on the street and was rushed to the hospital where they found it and did surgery. She was incredibly lucky because she could have died right there in the street.


    Thank you Ga6thDem. Much appreciated. (none / 0) (#86)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Sun Mar 13, 2022 at 09:30:00 PM EST
    It was a long time ago but writing about it brought it all right back to me like it was yesterday.

    Someone is confused (none / 0) (#59)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Mar 13, 2022 at 08:19:26 AM EST
    Missouri seeks to ban abortion for ectopic pregnancies, with a penalty of up to 30 years in prison

    Maybe it does not specifically ban ending an ectopic pregnancy but makes selling the tools needed to do it a felony?

    Republican state representative Brian Seitz proposed House Bill No. 2810, which would make the production, sale, purchase, or use of medical devices or drugs used for abortions a class B 11 felony, punishable by up to 15 years in prison.

    This is from your link (none / 0) (#60)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Mar 13, 2022 at 08:22:04 AM EST

    Introduced by House Representative Brian Seitz, a Republican, HB 2810 seeks to criminalize the production, sale, and transport of abortion-inducing medication and other devices meant "to be used for the purpose of performing or inducing an abortion." The bill specifically cites abortions performed to end an ectopic pregnancy as covered under the proposed restrictions.

    Will women needlessly die in agony (5.00 / 1) (#62)
    by MO Blue on Sun Mar 13, 2022 at 09:37:06 AM EST
    as a result of these laws. Others have.

    Dr. Halappanavar was told that her fetus would not survive -- but that she could not be given an abortion, her husband said. Ireland, she was told, is "a Catholic country," and it would be illegal to terminate the pregnancy while the fetus still had a heartbeat, her husband said.

    After being repeatedly refused an abortion, she waited days until the heartbeat stopped. The contents of her womb were removed on Oct. 27. By then she had an infection, and she died of septicemia the following day.

    An investigation by Ireland's national health service determined that confusion over the country's abortion law was a contributing factor in her death.

    Savita`s death resulted in landslide vote in favor of repealing the Irish abortion law that caused her death.

    Unfortunately, here in the US we are going in the opposite direction as fat a$$ men, like Brian Seitz, sacrifice women's lives on the alter of their political ambitions.


    Yes, if this (none / 0) (#63)
    by Zorba on Sun Mar 13, 2022 at 10:44:50 AM EST
    goes through, women will die in agony.  I guess they think that it's better that a woman and her embryo both die, rather than just the embryo.
    What the heck has happened to Missouri, MO Blue? I don't remember it being this bad way back when we lived there.

    Have actually no real idea what happened (none / 0) (#76)
    by MO Blue on Sun Mar 13, 2022 at 04:33:15 PM EST
    The state has moved so far backwards. Some possibilities. So called "religious" people got more active in politics. Neighborhoods are more segregated, interracial and same sex marriages are more numerous and completely out in the open.  A lot of people had their brains rotten out completely by watching Fox. More white people are reacting to the fact that they will soon be in the minority and some men feel seriously threatened by women becoming less subservient. The ongoing attempt to dumb down the population which has been working.

    A whole lot of people seem to want to go back to their idolized version of life 50-60 years ago.


    Sadly (none / 0) (#77)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Mar 13, 2022 at 04:48:40 PM EST
    Not a localized phenomenon.  It's is interesting tho how it creeps in.  Sometimes in surprising ways and places.

    Strangely AR has resisted some if the worst stuff in recent years.  We expanded Medicaid and promoted masks.

    It might be as simple as leadership.  I would never have voted for him but Hutchinson has done a respectable job in many ways.

    We will see if that continues under the leadership of Sara Sanders.


    We do have a Democrat (none / 0) (#90)
    by MO Blue on Mon Mar 14, 2022 at 08:42:44 AM EST
    as St. Louis County Executive. He is one of the more progressive ones (not one of those mealy mouth 3rd way idiots) and does what he can in this red state.

    Executive Order improves access to contraceptives: Last week, Dr. Page signed an Executive Order committing St. Louis County's Department of Public Health (DPH) to increase the scope of reproductive and sexual health services, including contraceptives, to County residents, and to expand equitable access to those services.

    The past two years have reminded us that a well-staffed, well-funded, creatively led, laser-focused health department is one of our County's most important assets. The DPH also provides family planning and counseling, nutrition services, annual exams, cancer screenings, testing and treatment for STIs and nurse visits to pregnant and postpartum patients and their infants -- care crucial for the vitality of our community. DPH is the safety net for the health of our community. Around 1,500 people receive reproductive health services from the County each year. 77% are Black, and the majority come from neighborhoods with high poverty rates. As Dr. Page said in his press conference, "Those attacking reproductive rights are really attacking our most vulnerable, making decisions for them instead of providing well marked avenues to information and to services."

    With attacks on reproductive health around our nation and around our state, Dr. Page is moving to strengthen St. Louis County's commitment to reproductive rights and equitable access to health services. The Executive Order ensures that the services offered are non-judgmental and culturally responsible.

    Also, he adopted mask mandates and limited occupation practices when Covid spikes warranted while other areas in the state did not. He encountered a lot of screaming from the anti science Neanderthals but stuck to his guns. As a result , St. Louis county had lower infection rates and has the highest vaccination rate in the state, 70.6% initiated vaccination and 62.7% have completed the series. Hopefully, he will be re-elected.


    Here (none / 0) (#64)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Sun Mar 13, 2022 at 10:45:34 AM EST
    is the bill. It is a short read.

    Reading the bill it looks to me like it is supposed to be about actions that are, as it says in section 1., "in violation of any state or federal law," which of course aborting ectopic pregnancies is not.

    But I am most certainly am not a lawyer and I don't really know if I'm reading this bill correctly. Supposedly the author said he's going to change the bill or something tomorrow to make its intent more clear...


    Reading comprehension (none / 0) (#70)
    by BGinCA on Sun Mar 13, 2022 at 01:25:05 PM EST
    I used your link and the bill explicitly states that
    "The offense is a Class B felony, but is a
    Class A felony when:
    ...(2)  The abortion was performed or induced, or attempted, on a
    woman who has an ectopic pregnancy;

    Sorry if I fail to read this as an exception, but rather an enhancement.


    Perhaps this was purposeful?

    But this is what I think it says. (would love to hear what our resident lawyers think.)

    What is the offense of trafficking abortion inducing devices or drugs?

    1. A person or entity commits the offense of trafficking abortion inducing devices or drugs if that person (sells, uses, etc.) them "for the purpose of performing or inducing an abortion on another person in violation of any state or federal law."

    So, if the abortion is in violation of state or federal law, the person who (sold, used, etc.) the drugs/devices in the illegal abortion has committed the crime of trafficking. iow, it's not trafficking if the abortion is legal; it's only trafficking if the abortion is illegal.

    What kind of crime is the offense of trafficking abortion inducing devices or drugs? (which, again, results in illegal abortion(s)):

    1. Trafficking is a class B felony.

    2. Trafficking is a class A felony if
        (1) the (illegal) abortion was on a woman
            carrying an unborn child of more than ten
            weeks gestational age;

         (2) The (illegal) abortion was performed or
             induced or was attempted to be performed
             or induced on a woman who has an ectopic

    And the above does sorta jibe with the bill's author's statements on the bill:

    In an email, Seitz said his bill has been misrepresented and that he'll offer an amendment next week to clarify the language. "This bill does nothing to curtail that LEGAL activity (abortion for an ectopic pregnancy), as it can present a clear and present danger to the mother," he said about the treatment of ectopic pregnancies. He added that the bill "is designed to curtail the illegal transportation, manufacture, sale, use, etc. of otherwise legal drugs."
    (my parenthetic)

    But, who knows, maybe he is lying through his teeth.


    MIGs (none / 0) (#91)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Mar 14, 2022 at 10:04:11 AM EST

    Playbook: "Something quite striking has happened in Washington since Russia invaded Ukraine. Congress -- which typically takes a back seat on foreign policy matters -- has repeatedly driven the White House beyond its comfort zone with bipartisan demands for more assertive policies."

    "It started with calls for tougher sanctions, then escalated to an appeal for a larger military and humanitarian assistance package. Members of both parties then clamored for a U.S. ban on Russian oil, which the White House saw as politically risky given the effect on gas prices at home. And they insisted that the U.S. end permanent normal trade relations with Russia."

    "The tactics have worked. And* this week, lawmakers will be at it again -- this time nudging the Biden administration to go further than it wants in facilitating the transfer of fighter jets from Poland to Ukraine."

    I'm thinking that the whole MIG issue (none / 0) (#95)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Mon Mar 14, 2022 at 12:08:28 PM EST
    is a lot of political theater.

    Much more symbolism than practical usefulness.

    Biden may be more concerned with how China might respond to a MIG transfer than how Putin would.


    Clearly it has become theater (none / 0) (#100)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Mar 14, 2022 at 01:29:48 PM EST
    I don't necessarily think that means they won't get their MIGs

    And every little MIG helps.


    Yes, getting air craft (none / 0) (#102)
    by KeysDan on Mon Mar 14, 2022 at 01:57:42 PM EST
    to Ukraine is what the US and the EU can do along with hoping that Russia loses slowly enough so that Putin will not act anymore irrationally than he has.

    And, too, there is the likely theater of Zelensky asking for things that he knows (mutually agreed upon)that President Biden will not give so as to demonstrate US constraint to Putin. Meanwhile, getting planes and giving other support to besieged Ukraine.


    29 would basically double their MIG fleet (none / 0) (#103)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Mon Mar 14, 2022 at 02:07:42 PM EST
    This is a recent take on the issue.

    They just said on MJoe (none / 0) (#133)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Mar 16, 2022 at 07:52:41 AM EST
    (they, alright) the number of MIGs is more like 70.  Poland is not the only country in the prospective deal.

    I bet Zeleskyy asks Congress for them.


    no fly zone. Not sure about the migs.

    The United States cannot go to war (5.00 / 1) (#135)
    by Peter G on Wed Mar 16, 2022 at 03:33:20 PM EST
    against Russia. Which is what a U.S.-imposed and U.S.-enforced "no fly zone" would be.

    I agree. (none / 0) (#139)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Wed Mar 16, 2022 at 04:48:27 PM EST
    Agreed. (none / 0) (#140)
    by KeysDan on Wed Mar 16, 2022 at 05:27:18 PM EST
    "Close the Sky" is a sure-fire way to start an expanded war.  While not entirely satisfactory since it continues the fighting, the economic war will take some waiting as will a stalemate on the military front--both of which may be the best option for an irreversible retreat of Russians from Ukraine.

    President Zelensky is the leader of his country, a country whose citizens are being killed and wounded by this brutal Russian aggression. and as such needs to ask for all help that he can.  

    But I can't help but believe that he recognizes the risks and dangers of a no fly zone. My previous thought that this request is part of a mutual strategy on the part of President Biden and President Zelensky has been affirmed by the Zelensy speech to Congress---the request and it's denial re-enforces the US public position of restricting the conflict while continuing to provide other, even more effective, support.

    The media take, as indicated by the White House press conference, yesterday, seems to be astonishingly irresponsible. Being part of war coverage appears to be exhilarating. Maybe, looking at this youthful press corps, most were only about six or seven years old at the time the US invaded Iraq and hear about school children ducking under their desks in nuclear attack drills from their grandparents.   No nuance, just bomb.

    That's all for now, I have tell kids.to ger off.my lawn.


    You obviously didn't get the memo ... (none / 0) (#151)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Thu Mar 17, 2022 at 01:39:09 PM EST
    KeysDan: "The media take, as indicated by the White House press conference, yesterday, seems to be astonishingly irresponsible. Being part of war coverage appears to be exhilarating."

    ... sent out by the Beltway press corps and cable news networks late last week, which reads in part:

    "With wide-eyed and steely determination tempered by a bittersweet nostalgia, we wish to announce that after an absolutely amazing two-year run as self-anointed experts on infectious diseases, public health, racism and civil rights, circumstances now compel us to move on.

    "And so, starting today, we're now self-styled experts on military strategy, foreign policy and international affairs. We look forward to this wonderful new opportunity, and we hope that you're as excited by Russia's international brinksmanship and looming prospect of active hostilities with that nation as we are."

    Hope this helps to clarify matters.


    Totally (none / 0) (#136)
    by FlJoe on Wed Mar 16, 2022 at 04:02:11 PM EST
    agree, those jets will make no difference, Ukraine is making very limited use of the planes they have. it's not even clear if they have the surviving infrastructure to keep up sustained air operations. The Russians seem to be able to hit airfields at will with cruise and ballistic missiles so running consistent ops out of anywhere becomes problematic.

    The airspace over Ukraine is a very hostile place, most the country is in range of multiple SAM batteries most of them deep inside Russian held territories. The Russians have a huge advantage in aircraft if it were come down to aerial combat and they surely won't be suffering the same morale and logistics problems as the grunts.


    Now (none / 0) (#138)
    by FlJoe on Wed Mar 16, 2022 at 04:12:03 PM EST
    on the other hand these sound interesting US: Ukraine can get killer Switchblades `loitering unmanned missiles' kamikaze drones,

    Spouse says they are handy (none / 0) (#141)
    by Militarytracy on Wed Mar 16, 2022 at 07:06:59 PM EST
    One person can launch one, no runway needed. But once it is in the air it is done, not recoverable. But the large one can take out a heavily armored tank, for about $10,000 per, tanks worth millions.

    It's (none / 0) (#142)
    by FlJoe on Wed Mar 16, 2022 at 07:48:16 PM EST
    been speculated that we are seeing the end of the main battle tank. When a squad of infantry can preform like an A10...

    Ukrainians have (none / 0) (#143)
    by Militarytracy on Wed Mar 16, 2022 at 08:02:46 PM EST
    Turned old school on its head. I just read that Ukraine forces think they have destroyed or procured 40% of the Russian assets brought into their country. Pretty incredible.

    Don't (none / 0) (#144)
    by FlJoe on Wed Mar 16, 2022 at 08:23:41 PM EST
    underestimate the incompetence of the Russians, it has been monumental.

    That being said the Ukrainians have made the best of what they have, and apparently have fought like lions.


    The old MIGs might not be (none / 0) (#154)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Mar 17, 2022 at 02:53:07 PM EST
    of great importance to the defense of the country but I think there might be other reasons to give them to Ukraine.

    Deciding what might push Vlad over the edge to push the button is above my paygrade but I think they need to start looking at things that poke him in the eye.

    They should give them the planes because he would not like it.  We are cowering a little more than I like.  We need to stop asking how high every time Putin says jump.

    If they won't make a difference he won't start WWIII over them.  

    He might be more worried about the replacement upgrades promised for all the old ones to various NATO allies.


    Remember there are a lot of things going (none / 0) (#156)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Mar 17, 2022 at 04:17:08 PM EST
    On that we don't know about. I know it is hard though at times.

    is why is this bill even being presented?

    Why would Seitz present a bill that defines certain actions as crimes, but for those actions to be crimes they require very specific and (as of now) very legal precursors to be illegal?

    Unfortunately, I believe the bill is a pretty accurate game plan or guideline of what Seitz foresees as the future of abortion laws in MO.

    iow, I think the bill was written in anticipation of MO laws prohibiting abortion past ten weeks, or for ectopic pregnancies, or on a woman who is a victim of trafficking , etc., etc.


    My daughter has had a similar experience. (none / 0) (#80)
    by desertswine on Sun Mar 13, 2022 at 05:31:17 PM EST
    I'm sorry to hear that. It is crushing. (none / 0) (#87)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Sun Mar 13, 2022 at 09:34:09 PM EST
    Looking back, some therapy would probably have been a good idea...

    This right to life MO rep (none / 0) (#45)
    by MO Blue on Fri Mar 11, 2022 at 05:31:44 PM EST
    Is promoting implementing the death for people facilitating abortions

    Rep. Brian Seitz not only advocated for prison time for those in favor of abortion, but mentioned the death penalty. Seitz noted that he felt his proposal was not "strict enough" and would leave the conversation open in regard to implementing the death penalty for people facilitating abortions.


    Even without making this law punishable by death, this law will be a death sentence for many women.

    These are violent, blood thirsty people and in no way represent the teachings of Christ. Whether you are Christian or even religious, this is not what the reported teaching of Christ taught.


    I been having more than usual interaction (5.00 / 1) (#49)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Mar 12, 2022 at 07:41:07 AM EST
    with these people recently.  For various reasons like funerals and other stuff.  They are truly despicable.  I don't think they give a rats azz about the babies.  Particularly the non white ones.  It is simply a thing that they think makes them look s godly and good and like they care so much for just everyone.

    Just my opinion but I despise them more all the time.  After Trump they have let the masks slip to the point they are just saying the words thinking that's all they need to do.

    And clearly to often it is.


    Recently, I (5.00 / 1) (#114)
    by MKS on Tue Mar 15, 2022 at 01:32:27 PM EST
    read the comments on a thread about abortion, on some site, somewhere.  Big mistake.

    More hateful, misogynistic stuff would be hard to find.  It was not about the "babies."  It was about women being promiscuous. Making the women pay.

    They hate medically induced abortions even in the first few days.....It really is some sicko, weirdo stuff.  


    You've (none / 0) (#55)
    by Ga6thDem on Sat Mar 12, 2022 at 03:04:28 PM EST
    got the right read on these people. They just use the baby thing to hide behind.

    They are coming out as full Putin apologists now too. Some were already there but now they are announcing that Putin is doing the right thing because Ukraine has gay pride parades.  


    The Idaho legislature has adopted (none / 0) (#111)
    by KeysDan on Tue Mar 15, 2022 at 12:19:20 PM EST
    a copy cat of the Texas "fugitive uterus" law, and is expected to be signed by the Governor.

    While the Texas law allows any random citizen to sue anyone who "aids and abets" a woman in getting an abortion after fetal cardiac activity is detected ( about six weeks after the last period and before many women are aware they are pregnant), the Idaho bill is so much more "moderate", allowing family members of the fetus or "pre born child" as defined in the legislation, to sue abortion providers with the reward of at least $20,000 plus legal fees. Suits are allowed up to 4 years after the abortion.

    Texas has no exception for rape or incest. Idaho has an exception for rape, but it requires a police report to be shown to the provider before an abortion.  The women, themselves, are not prosecuted in either state.  But, the father, grandparents, siblings, aunts, and uncles of the fetus can sue.  A rapist can't sue, but the siblings and relatives of the rapist can sue.


    Suppose the Abortion Occurs in Another State (none / 0) (#112)
    by RickyJim on Tue Mar 15, 2022 at 12:51:49 PM EST
    Article IV, Section 1 US Constitution:

    Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State. And the Congress may by general Laws prescribe the Manner in which such Acts, Records and Proceedings shall be proved, and the Effect thereof.

    Can the Idaho relative still sue the abortion provider of a state where abortions are completely legal?

    Nope (none / 0) (#115)
    by MKS on Tue Mar 15, 2022 at 01:35:25 PM EST
    Subject to the public policy of the forum state.

    California, for example, would have no requirement to enforce anti-abortion statutes, or judgments, from other states.


    This would be an (none / 0) (#116)
    by KeysDan on Tue Mar 15, 2022 at 01:36:55 PM EST
    Idaho law, if signed by the governor of Idaho, pertaining to abortions in Idaho.

    It could be argued that, at this point, abortions are legal in all states in accord with Roe v Wade (first trimester, decision to terminate--solely at the discretion of the woman, second trimester, state can regulate but not ban, third trimester, fetus viability, state may regulate or outlaw abortions.)

    The Texas law, and now this one, try to get around Roe on the basis of private enforcement procedures.


    Petito family sues Laundrie parents (none / 0) (#43)
    by McBain on Fri Mar 11, 2022 at 04:41:00 PM EST
    The defendants "knew of the mental suffering and anguish" the plaintiffs were experiencing while their daughter was missing but refused to disclose information about her whereabouts, and in doing so "acted with malice or great indifference," the lawsuit said.

    "It is believed ... that on or about August 28, 2021, Brian Laundrie advised his parents, Christopher Laundrie and Roberta Laundrie, that he had murdered Gabrielle Petito," according to the suit.

    I followed this case a few months ago and was disappointed with the irrational hatred of Brian Laundrie's parents and lawyer. Reminded me a bit of the Casey Anthony saga.  Idiots harassing the parents.

    I would (none / 0) (#65)
    by Zorba on Sun Mar 13, 2022 at 10:46:15 AM EST
    Be surprised if this lawsuit goes anywhere.

    This is amazing (none / 0) (#44)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Mar 11, 2022 at 04:50:07 PM EST
    So, his pettiness is not the problem.  Rather it is allowing it to come through so he lost the election.

    If Bill is trying to make himself look better for history he really sucks at it.

    <"He's not my idea of a president, and I felt he was going to lose the election because he was not controlling himself. He was allowing this pettiness to come through, and I feel it's one of his great failings."

    -- Former Attorney General William Barr, quoted by The Hill, on Donald Trump.

    Legacy polishing (none / 0) (#48)
    by jmacWA on Sat Mar 12, 2022 at 04:04:46 AM EST
    Those who are truly good public servants do not have to engage in legacy polishing, they let their career actions speak for themselves.

    If I could post a sample of how my house smells (none / 0) (#51)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Mar 12, 2022 at 08:38:06 AM EST
    I would.  I'm making slow roasted corn beef.  Started very early.  It has to go for six hours.

    In other news this is very cool


    I thought it sounded like a sales thing but it's not.  It's really not.

    Nano edibles work differently. Using nanoemulsion technology, Select infuses tiny, water-soluble cannabinoids into its gummies--unlike traditional edibles, which use fat-soluble cannabinoids. This means there's no need to wait for digestion for things to "kick in," so they typically take 15-20 minutes. The high itself is closer to smoking or vaping.

    Spring (none / 0) (#54)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Mar 12, 2022 at 12:53:49 PM EST
    Hmmm..,. (none / 0) (#56)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Mar 12, 2022 at 04:09:48 PM EST

    Kremlin arrests FSB chiefs in fallout from Ukraine chaos
    The defenestration of several senior spies is a sign of Putin's growing fury towards the intelligence services

    One of the x-perts was saying the FSB and the spys are what Putin fears most because of their power and reach.

    I wonder if there might be more to this than blame.

    There is that rumor (none / 0) (#57)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Mar 12, 2022 at 07:20:31 PM EST
    That Putin's missile stocks were 1/10 of what he was told at the beginning of the Ukraine invasion.

    And Putin didn't seem to know Ukraine was going to fight like this. Zelensky bluffed until the last second too. Ukraine was 100% ready to fight while Zelensky was out front saying, "everything is fine, they aren't going to invade."

    Ukraine leadership knew that nothing was going to stop Putin. All they could do was feed him as much disinformation as possible so Russia wouldn't come prepared.


    US officials say Russia has asked China ... (5.00 / 1) (#78)
    by desertswine on Sun Mar 13, 2022 at 05:18:14 PM EST
    ...for military help in Ukraine

    Source: Financial Times
    Demetri Sevastopulo in Washington AN HOUR AGO

    Russia has asked China for military ​equipment to ​support its invasion of Ukraine, ​according to US officials, sparking concern in ​the White House that Beijing ​may undermine western efforts to help Ukrainian forces defend their country.

    US officials told the Financial Times that Russia had requested military equipment and other assistance since the start of the invasion. They declined to give details about what Russia had requested.

    Another person familiar with the situation said the US was preparing to warn its allies, amid some indications that China may be preparing to help Russia. Other US officials have said there were signs that Russia was running out of some kinds of weaponry as the war in Ukraine extends into its third week.

    The White House did not comment. The Chinese embassy in Washington did not respond to a request for a comment.


    So (5.00 / 1) (#82)
    by FlJoe on Sun Mar 13, 2022 at 07:06:53 PM EST
    I can mark off world war 3, on my "may you live in interesting times" card? I thought I was lucky when I hit world wide pandemic and attempted coup, all I need now is alien contact and I win!

    I don't think Chins is going (none / 0) (#93)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Mar 14, 2022 at 10:45:16 AM EST
    To help Putin. They were tempted to side with him in the first days, then they watched the rest of the world unleash sanctions. They want no part of that stuff.

    Maybe XI (5.00 / 1) (#98)
    by KeysDan on Mon Mar 14, 2022 at 01:03:10 PM EST
    is looking forward to Putin's reversal and Russia becoming a client state of China.   An issue for us at a later time,  but a contemporaneous advantage.  

    Yup (none / 0) (#99)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Mar 14, 2022 at 01:07:34 PM EST
    He's excited I bet.

    China's thinking about it thought. (none / 0) (#101)
    by desertswine on Mon Mar 14, 2022 at 01:42:06 PM EST
    And this (none / 0) (#79)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Mar 13, 2022 at 05:29:59 PM EST

    US and China Officials to Meet to Discuss Ukraine
    March 13, 2022 at 1:21 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard 10 Comments

    National Security adviser Jake Sullivan will travel to Rome on Monday to meet Yang Jiechi, China's top foreign policy official, in talks that are expected to focus on the war in Ukraine, the highest level US-China face-to-face meeting since the Russian invasion began, the Financial Times reports

    We want them to agree (none / 0) (#97)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Mar 14, 2022 at 12:45:10 PM EST
    To tech starving Russia

    The Russian losses are rather shocking. (none / 0) (#88)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sun Mar 13, 2022 at 11:40:49 PM EST
    U.S. intelligence officials have since revised upward their initial estimates from the first two weeks of the war to about 6,000 dead. That's a staggering number for such a short period.

    But Pentagon officials also cautioned that Ukrainian heroism notwithstanding, the Russian military still retains 90-95% of its offensive capacity in Ukraine. Putin's forces have thus far been much more humiliated than actually hurt.

    While Russia's request for military equipment from China certainly caught everyone's attention, there are otherwise no indications that Putin is redeploying military units from elsewhere in the country to add to the combat power in Ukraine.

    Out here in the islands, I'm rather surprised that we've not been buzzed by Tu-95 "Bear" bombers, as we were last spring while the Russian military was conducting its largest naval exercise off Hawaii since the Cold War. I expect that could change if tensions continue to rise.



    Russia has lost 1/4 of its equipment (none / 0) (#92)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Mar 14, 2022 at 10:35:14 AM EST
    Technically if a military loses 1/3 they can't fight a war they can possibly win.

    Russia doesn't have enough troops to hold Kyiv even if they took it. Not even if every troop they have in Ukraine was in Kyiv.

    In the South, Chechen beserkers follow behind the troops and shoot to death anyone attempting to desert, or not fight, or whoever is wounded.

    They have artillery. And in the North Bombers. If China won't help resupply, Putin is doomed. If a hundred thousand Syrians don't show up blood thirsty to kill Jews, Putin is doomed.


    My mother's grandmother (5.00 / 2) (#94)
    by Peter G on Mon Mar 14, 2022 at 11:36:46 AM EST
    was so smart -- albeit illiterate and unskilled -- to get the hell out of that part of the world, with her toddler daughter (my grandmother), about 125 years ago.

    Skilled at things (5.00 / 2) (#96)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Mar 14, 2022 at 12:42:25 PM EST
    We don't formerly call skilled I bet.

    After her husband abandoned her, (5.00 / 5) (#104)
    by Peter G on Mon Mar 14, 2022 at 06:22:29 PM EST
    I should add. "I'm going to America, and will send for you," he apparently said. Not. Some of her cousins, who had apparently already made it to Elizabeth, NJ, heard she and the baby was starving, living by begging, and sent her a steerage ticket. How in the world my great-grandmother made it from Odessa to Danzig to get on a boat, without a kopek to her name, I cannot even imagine. When she got to America, she cleaned houses for her fellow immigrants. She never learned to read, nor to speak English. But her daughter, my grandmother (who began kindergarten at age 9), graduated high school and then college (Hunter College, of the NYC free higher ed system) and became a high school math teacher.

    I only learned in 2004 from my great-aunt that her mother, who had been widowed with seven children in 1920, ran a nightclub and brothel in Wheeling Township, IL for Irish mobster Dean O'Banion, who was later killed by Al Capone's gang. The area was Ground Zero for the illegal spirits trade during Prohibition, because it was two hours outside Chicago and the underpaid Cook County police were easy to bribe.

    After O'Banion's death in 1924, Great-Grandma Frieda and other local liquor entrepreneurs quickly switched their allegiance to the Italian mobsters and at that point, they really profited and flourished. She and her three eldest teenage daughters branched out into the more lucrative bootlegging trade full-time because after all, who was going to suspect a 42-year-old Hausfrau and her girls of being rumrunners for Ralph Capone, Al's brother?

    Well, not only did Frieda pay off her late husband's debts, she and her family prospered as Prohibition turned into the Great Depression. She used some of her earnings to buy a large 50-acre dairy farm at auction in neighboring Northbrook in 1930 - and apparently paid cash for it.

    When I was growing up, my grandmother and her siblings never discussed their mother's illicit activities during Prohibition, likely because they had all since become respectable members of the community and were ashamed of that past. My great-aunt wouldn't do so until much later in her own life when, as she put it, "Such things don't really matter anymore, do they?"

    But as for me, I'm rather proud of the old girl. Honestly, the morality of her mob ties is a discussion for well-heeled people who have enjoyed options in their lives. Great-Grandma Frieda was a hard-working and practical woman who did what she had to do to keep her family together and support her children. Further, she did so at a time when economic options for middle-aged women were severely limited and there was no social safety net. She forged her own path and proved to be quite successful at it.

    And when Frieda's six surviving children - her youngest son joined the U.S. Army in World War II and was killed during the Allied advance into Germany in Feb. 1945 - sold her Northbrook farm after her death in 1970 to Allstate Insurance Corp., which desired the property for that company's then-future corporate HQ, the deal made them all millionaires.

    Ain't America grand? All our families have stories of our forebears' perseverance. I do hope everyone takes the time to chronicle their family's histories for future generations to marvel at. They will be grateful you did.



    These are the stories that should be (5.00 / 1) (#110)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Tue Mar 15, 2022 at 11:18:13 AM EST
    preserved forever.

    Agreed. (5.00 / 1) (#130)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Tue Mar 15, 2022 at 04:26:25 PM EST
    I'm reminded of the climactic scene in Ridley Scott's sci-fi noir classic "Blade Runner" when the dying replicant Roy Batty (Rutger Hauer) conveys the sum total of his brief lifespan to blade runner Rick Deckard (Harrison Ford):

    "I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched c-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die."

    On my mother's side, I recently made a PDF file of my great aunt's journals from the second through fourth decades of the 20th century. Among other things, she recounted how the Spanish flu just tore through Pasadena and cruelly took two of her younger sisters in less than one week in 1918, and how her mother lamented that they couldn't give the girls a proper funeral since county public health directives required their burial within 24 hours of passing.

    The following year, at age 19, she married an attorney from Pittsburgh (he was ten years older than her) and moved there. One year later, she vividly described her own rather arduous cross-country journey by automobile with her brand-new husband from Pittsburgh to Los Angeles to visit her family.

    Now mind you, this was 1920 and well before the federal highway system was ever established. West of the Mississippi, to hear her describe it, the roads were basically nothing more than wagon trails. Anyway, it took them five weeks (and several lengthy mechanical breakdowns) to complete the trip.

    Afterward, her husband swore he wouldn't ever do that again, and together they decided to stay in California (where she grew up) rather than return to his home state of Pennsylvania. From her account, she was totally fine with that, and it really didn't take too much convincing for her husband.

    Two years after that in 1922, he took a job in San Francisco and they traveled up there from L.A. by steamship with their new baby, an overnight journey which took about 15 hours. After the San Francisco-Oakland Bay Bridge was built in the 1930s, they moved the family across the bay to a big house near Lake Merritt in Oakland where they would spend the rest of their lives. They're buried side by side in Holy Sepulchre Catholic Cemetery in nearby Hayward.

    It's good to save these family stories. If nothing else, they bring back to life our stern-looking relatives from all those old family photos on the wall and in various family albums.



    What an amazing woman (none / 0) (#108)
    by Militarytracy on Tue Mar 15, 2022 at 09:42:07 AM EST
    I've heard that. (none / 0) (#105)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Tue Mar 15, 2022 at 01:42:30 AM EST
    I suspect Pentagon officials are lowballing such numbers, so I imagine the Russians' loss in materiel and armor to be quite high, in line with their loss of front-line troops.

    Further, a spokesperson for British Army HQ at Marlborough Lines told the BBC today that of the 20 Russian field commanders who were in overall command of the ground invasion when it began, nine have since been confirmed as killed in the first three weeks of fighting, including four generals:

    • Maj. Gen. Andrei Sukhovetsky, commander of Russia's 7th Airborne Division and deputy commander of the 41st Combined Arms Army, was shot dead by a Ukrainian sniper near Mariupol;
    • Maj. Gen. Vitaly Gerasimov, first deputy commander of Russia's 41st Army, was killed in Kharkiv during a surprise Ukrainian counterattack that drove the Russians from the city's outskirts;
    • Maj. Gen. Andrey Kolesnikov, commander of the 29th Combined Arms Army, was shot dead by a Ukrainian sniper near Kharkiv; and
    • Gen. Magomed Tushaev, a Chechen warlord who commanded the 247th Chechen Guards Armored Regiment, was killed when the column of 56 tanks he was leading was ambushed and wiped out at Hostomel near Kyiv.

    Again, such a high attrition rate for senior field commanders is staggering. It makes one wonder why those generals felt compelled to expose themselves so recklessly at the front like that, unless they were trying to urge on their reluctant and demoralized troops by personal example.

    Russia's Ukraine misadventure is quickly looking like one of the truly great military blunders in the history of modern warfare, a latter-day Boer War. Even if Putin prevails, it will be a pyrrhic victory and as you noted, it's unlikely the Russian military can sustain an occupation of that country in the face of a bitterly hostile populace.

    President Zelensky even took to the airwaves tonight to broadcast personally in Russian to his country's invaders, urging them to save their own lives and surrender to the nearest Ukrainian troops. You have to admire the guy's chutzpah. I wouldn't be at all shocked if more than a few Russian troops took him up on his request.



    The Russians may be stripping their far east... (5.00 / 1) (#157)
    by desertswine on Thu Mar 17, 2022 at 05:17:25 PM EST
    army of equipment and shipping the equipment to the Ukraine area.

    A Japanese patrol has spotted Russian transport warships passing through Tsugaru Strait.


    Here (none / 0) (#107)
    by FlJoe on Tue Mar 15, 2022 at 05:41:26 AM EST
    is a source showing Russian equipment losses.

    1300 vehicles including 214 tanks. This count is only photographically verified killed/captured, so the real count is certainly higher.


    The losses are certainly severe. (none / 0) (#125)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Tue Mar 15, 2022 at 03:03:17 PM EST
    Throw in the Russian military's disastrously inefficient logistics, and it's suddenly looking like a real possibility that Putin's war in Ukraine could buckle and collapse under its own weight.

    The recruitment of 40,000 Syrian mercenaries for service in Ukraine may be a sign of the Putin regime's desperation. They know that they need to win this conflict quickly, before the massive influx of U.S. high-tech weaponry turns the tide decisively in favor of the defenders.

    Time is likely on the side of Volodymyr Zelensky if his government can hang on until May, which is when the Russian military will have exhausted its capacity to continue offensive operations in Ukraine, as many western military experts predict.



    If I were Syrian (none / 0) (#137)
    by Chuck0 on Wed Mar 16, 2022 at 04:06:20 PM EST
    I would have to ask where Putin is getting the money to pay me. The ruble is worthless. Banking has been cut off. I wouldn't hold my breath for getting paid. But then I suppose Putin assumes they will just be cannon fodder and their will be no left to pay. (Reminds me of how a certain orange crime boss does business.)

    I'm sure they were specifically sniping (none / 0) (#123)
    by Militarytracy on Tue Mar 15, 2022 at 02:46:44 PM EST
    Officers Donald. Kyiv isn't so fair from Belarus. Ukraine knew from intel collection that the average Russian solder in Belarus was reluctant to attack Ukraine. What saves the most lives and uses the least ammo? Sniping the officers.

    The Russian Army has been quietly stalked from the day they crossed the border. And Zelensky made it appear Ukraine was unprepared.


    My older sister emailed me from France, ... (none / 0) (#127)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Tue Mar 15, 2022 at 03:17:48 PM EST
    ... where she resides. She heard a report on the French news channel France 24 last night that a large number of young Russian conscripts were recently killed when their barracks collapsed in Belarus. It apparently had nothing to do with the war but rather, was likely caused by shoddy construction.

    Now, there's a real morale booster for Putin's troops. If Ukrainian soldiers don't kill you at the front, then shady Belarussian contractors will do you in from behind the lines and pocket the change.



    My heart hurts for (5.00 / 1) (#132)
    by Militarytracy on Wed Mar 16, 2022 at 07:27:43 AM EST
    The conscripts forced into this.

    Major General Oleg Mityaev was recently killed during the Russian siege of Mariupol, according to Anton Gerashchenko, an advisor to Ukraine's Interior Ministry.

    Further, British media reported that the late Maj. Gen. Vitaly Gerasimov, one of these aforementioned deceased Russian major generals, was using an unsecured line to communicate with his ground units while at the front in Kharkiv. It was that fateful lapse of judgment which allowed the Ukrainian military to intercept one of his calls, quickly fix his exact location with geocoordinates, and then not only take him out but also kill his entire staff.

    The New York Times is reporting "conservative" Pentagon estimates of 7,000+ Russian troops killed in only three weeks of fighting. Those are numbers that Putin, try as he might, will likely not be able to hide from the Russian people for very long. The palpable grief of Russian mothers and families over their personal loss won't be lost on local Russian communities.

    Putin's war has become an unfolding train wreck on so many levels, it's both horrifying to see yet fascinating to watch. Setting aside Ukraine's obvious human tragedy for the moment, the damage that sociopathic gangster has done to Russia's economy and international reputation with this foolish and reckless invasion will likely not be fully repaired by any of his successors in our lifetimes.

    We are so incredibly fortunate that Joe Biden is our president at this critical moment, rather than Donald Trump. As for the rest of those suddenly star-spangled Republicans who are now criticizing Biden for being too slow to aid Ukraine, I'll simply let an exasperated Whoopi Goldberg speak for me.



    I suspect that Putin's plan, (none / 0) (#164)
    by Jack E Lope on Fri Mar 18, 2022 at 06:14:57 PM EST
    ...was to have Drumpf remove the US from NATO by now.

    UPDATE: Another one bites the dust. (5.00 / 1) (#165)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sat Mar 19, 2022 at 11:28:32 AM EST
    Lt. Gen. Andrey Mordvichev, commander of the 8th General Army in southern Ukraine, became the fifth Russian general to be killed in the war. He lost his life in an apparent Ukrainian drone strike on Kherson Airport, according to a Defense Ministry spokesman in Kyiv.

    Of the 150,000 Russian troops initially committed by Putin to the offensive in Ukraine, an estimated 20% of them have now been killed or wounded. A recent photo by Aris Messinis, published in Agence Francee-Presse after a battle in the city of Bucha (west of Kyiv), show one street full of wrecked Russian tanks and armored vehicles. In other photos of Russian POWs, shown on BBC, many of them look like they're barely out of high school.

    I can't imagine what Putin thinks he's going to accomplish by continuing. I said earlier that the Russian military at that point had been much more humiliated than hurt. Well, that ratio is changing. The Ukrainians may kneecap them.



    And another one bites the dust... (5.00 / 1) (#178)
    by desertswine on Sun Mar 20, 2022 at 09:02:24 PM EST
    LONDON (Reuters) - A senior naval commander in Russia's Black Sea Fleet has been killed in Ukraine, the governor of Sevastopol said on Sunday.

    Post-Captain Andrei Paliy, deputy commander of the fleet, died during fighting in the eastern Ukrainian port city of Mariupol, Governor Mikhail Razvozhayev said on the messaging app Telegram.

    The Russian navy did not respond to a request for comment.


    "bite the dust" (5.00 / 1) (#179)
    by leap2 on Mon Mar 21, 2022 at 12:34:08 PM EST
    That phrase goes back at least to Homer's The Illiad. Not much has changed when it comes to the human penchant for killing others in various iterations of "war."

    I smell some very advanced intel collection (none / 0) (#168)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Mar 19, 2022 at 07:58:23 PM EST

    Hmmmm...if I didn't know better I swear it smells a little like NATO


    It (none / 0) (#169)
    by FlJoe on Sun Mar 20, 2022 at 05:45:25 AM EST
    has been reported that the Russians are communicating over unencrypted commercial radio so they can't be that hard to find, headquarter units are not that hard to spot with drones.

    I wonder if this was a switchblade strike? They seem to be losing a lot of generals. I am wondering if they have had these switchblades for some time.

    The small ones are a perfect anti-personal weapon, think sniper from 10k hitting his target with a grenade instead of a bullet.


    The switchblades are new (none / 0) (#172)
    by Militarytracy on Sun Mar 20, 2022 at 08:05:31 AM EST
    But Turkey sold them an armed drone that my spouse says is formidable. The switchblade drones don't have a long loiter time. You should only put one up if you know without doubt you have a target nearby. The drones from Turkey are recoverable.

    Not (none / 0) (#173)
    by FlJoe on Sun Mar 20, 2022 at 10:42:27 AM EST
    sure how new they are. The whole "switchblades are coming" story was leaked to the press several days ago, that was either bad OP-SEC or more likely they have been there for sometime and the Russians probably have already figured it out.

    CNN (none / 0) (#174)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Mar 20, 2022 at 02:17:34 PM EST

    Tapper prompted. "Another is saying Russian soldiers don't appear to be particularly motivated. I can only recall one American general being killed in Afghanistan in the entire conflict, and that was a green-on-blue insider attack, it's not common."

    "Very, very uncommon," the retired general and former CIA director (Petraeus) agreed. "This is in the first three weeks. These are quite senior generals. The bottom line is their command and control has broken down, the communications have been jammed by the Ukrainians; they had to go to a single channel which is jammable -- that's what the Ukrainians have been doing.

    "They [the Russians] use cell phones, and Ukrainians blocked the prefix for Russia," he continued with a smile. "They took down 3G. They're stealing cell phones from Ukrainian civilians. The column gets stopped and an impatient general goes forward to see what's going on, because there's no initiative, no non-commissioned officer corps, no sense of initiative at junior levels -- they wait to be told what to do. Gets up there, and the Ukrainians have very, very good snipers and have been picking them off."

    "At least four of the five have been confirmed, I think the fifth we'll hear about today," he added

    I (none / 0) (#175)
    by FlJoe on Sun Mar 20, 2022 at 04:37:01 PM EST
    am pretty sure the Ukrainians had help with the jamming, that "he continued with a smile" is kind of a tell there.

    I am not sure about the impatient general  going to the front scenario, especially after the first couple of high rankers got popped.

    In Stalingrad the officers would take off their brass when they went anywhere the front, I don't think Russian officers need much refreshment on that lesson.

    I think these high level kills are mostly drone strikes of one form or the other, 5,10,20 miles from the front there is nowhere to hide even with good communication security.

    Welcome to warfare in the 21st century where robot hunter killers rule the battlefield.


    Three generals killed were at the front. (none / 0) (#183)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Mon Mar 21, 2022 at 09:30:52 PM EST
    They were picked off by snipers. Others appear to have been located by the Ukrainians through surveillance or, unforgivable from a military standpoint, unencrypted and babbling Russian communications, as though they thought Ukrainians don't understand their language.

    WAR UPDATE (Mar. 22, 2022): (5.00 / 1) (#184)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Tue Mar 22, 2022 at 03:57:28 PM EST
    Per a statement from the War Ministry in Kyiv, Ukrainian troops have evicted Russian forces from the Kyiv suburb of Makariv after a fierce battle, regaining control of a key highway and blocking the Russian effort to encircle Ukraine's capital from the northwest.

    Western officials said on Tuesday that the Russian military is suffering enormous battlefield casualties in Ukraine on a scale not seen since the Second World War. A pro-Kremlin tabloid initially reported that nearly 10,000 Russian troops have been killed since Vladimir Putin ordered the invasion of Ukraine on February 24, attributing that number to military sources in Moscow. The online article has since been removed.

    On the humanitarian front, more than three million Ukrainians have now fled their country since the war started, and another seven million have been internally displaced by the fighting. That's nearly 25% of Ukraine's pre-war population. Poland reports that over 50% of the two million Ukrainian refugees in their country are children under the age of 18.

    Because President Biden publicly called Vladimir Putin a war criminal, Moscow has threatened to sever diplomatic ties between Russia and the United States, which would certainly not be to its advantage or best interests. Putin has proved himself to be an incredibly mediocre strategic thinker who's managed to box himself into a corner.

    Contrast that with Joe Biden, for whom the Russo-Ukrainian War has become a test of his resolve and NATO's humanity. He recognizes the need for deliberation and caution when confronting a nuclear power that's already under considerable internal stress due to its leader's grievous miscalculations.

    Reacting to the heart-rending images we're seeing out of Mariupol, Kharkiv and Kyiv, Biden clearly empathizes with the desire expressed by so many people to mount up NATO and blast Ukraine's Russian invaders straight to Hell. But he's also noted in his public remarks the significant risks to consider here.

    For starters, one can't control a war. One can only react to its events to the extent possible, as those events may unfold in real time. In that respect, Biden is playing the hand he was dealt with considerable skill, given the circumstances. His years of foreign policy experience are serving us well.

    In Russia, Putin's fiercest political adversaries right now are likely those mothers whose sons are being treated by him as so much cannon fodder for his war in Ukraine. Over 20% of Russian forces currently committed to that country have been killed or wounded.

    Logistical problems have been so dismal and severe that western intelligence has estimated that some Russian units currently have only three to seven days' worth of fuel, food and ammunition remaining, four weeks into the invasion, with prospects for their timely reprovision at best poor.

    At a recent anti-war demonstration in Moscow, one woman showed a photo of her young son in uniform - who's 22 but looks all of 18 - to ABC News foreign correspondent James Longman and told him that his unit only has ten soldiers left. She pleaded to her country's leadership, "Please stop this bloodshed. Return my son."

    Showing the photo of her son to ABC's camera, the mother said tearfully, "Look, he's just a boy. He's just a child. And he is fighting. What is it for?" Then, spotting security service personnel approaching, she quickly melted away into the crowd before they could detain her.

    This is all just heartbreaking to watch.


    Great (none / 0) (#83)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Mar 13, 2022 at 07:09:55 PM EST
    If we can make McDonalds get out of Russia can't we make the get off FAUX NEWS?

    Kremlin Orders Media to Feature Tucker Carlson
    March 13, 2022 at 8:26 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard 1 Comment

    According to talking points sent to Russian media, the Kremlin wanted viewers to hear as much from Fox News' Tucker Carlson because he "sharply criticizes the actions of the United States and NATO, their negative role in unleashing the conflict in Ukraine, and the defiantly provocative behavior from the leadership of the Western countries and NATO towards the Russian Federation and towards President Putin, personally," Mother Jones reports

    #TuckyoRose (none / 0) (#84)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Mar 13, 2022 at 07:22:12 PM EST

    On Saturday, Carlson's show also began appearing on Chinese Communist Party television promoting Ukraine conspiracy theories. On Friday, Carlson's show aired propaganda from Chinese and Russian leaders

    He started it, Mom, (none / 0) (#109)
    by KeysDan on Tue Mar 15, 2022 at 10:35:33 AM EST
    Putin has imposed personal sanctions on President Biden, senior administration officials.---and Hillary.

    Hillary (5.00 / 1) (#118)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue Mar 15, 2022 at 01:49:33 PM EST
    has to be laughing all the way to the bank on that one. Biden too.

    Well, Joe will (none / 0) (#121)
    by MKS on Tue Mar 15, 2022 at 02:09:43 PM EST
    just have to give up his yacht and dachas in Russia.

    The only people (none / 0) (#124)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue Mar 15, 2022 at 02:52:20 PM EST
    that sanctions would have hurt are the Trumps and Republicans but of course Putin would never sanction them since they are helping.

    Secretary Clinton (none / 0) (#126)
    by KeysDan on Tue Mar 15, 2022 at 03:14:05 PM EST
    thanked the "Russian Academy" for its "Lifetime Achievement Award."  

    Note: Another Putin and Republican "favorite" was personally sanctioned: Hunter Biden.  


    Herschel Walker on the theory of evolution... (none / 0) (#120)
    by desertswine on Tue Mar 15, 2022 at 02:04:15 PM EST
    "Why are there still apes?  Think about it."


    And, tthe pastor, (none / 0) (#128)
    by KeysDan on Tue Mar 15, 2022 at 03:22:31 PM EST
    his host,  replied: "Now you are getting too smart for us."

    I believe that pastor, the low bar that it seems to be. But, I have a question for both: If your kids descended from you, how come you still exist?


    Dogs are descended from wolves, yet (5.00 / 4) (#145)
    by Towanda on Wed Mar 16, 2022 at 11:19:12 PM EST
    wolves still exist.

    It's a head scratcher. For Herschel.


    Republicans go out of their way (5.00 / 2) (#146)
    by MO Blue on Thu Mar 17, 2022 at 09:13:06 AM EST
    To enlist the most sexually deviant, abusive, violent, corrupt  and stupid candidates that they can find. The only thing worse are the people who vote for them regardless of how atrocious they are.

    Sarah Bloom Raskin nomination to Federal (none / 0) (#129)
    by desertswine on Tue Mar 15, 2022 at 03:33:43 PM EST
    Reserve sunk.  Because Joe Manchin.

    Manchin, who represents a coal state and has close ties to the fossil fuel industry, cited Ms. Raskin's past comments on the role that financial regulation should play in fighting climate change in explaining his opposition.

    I look forward to reading ... (5.00 / 3) (#131)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Tue Mar 15, 2022 at 04:32:20 PM EST
    ... Manchin's forthcoming book, "Better Living Through Carbon-Based Chemicals."

    No question that Manchin (5.00 / 3) (#147)
    by MO Blue on Thu Mar 17, 2022 at 09:17:05 AM EST
    is bought and paid for. If Republicans take over Congress in 2022, one of the prime reasons will be Manchin's obstruction of everything good the Democrats tried but failed to achieve.

    Present circumstances may overtake them. (5.00 / 2) (#155)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Thu Mar 17, 2022 at 03:29:30 PM EST
    I just watched Whoopi Goldberg and Ana Navarro unload on conservative panelist Alyssa Farah on "The View" after Farah criticized President Biden for not being quick enough to repond to the Ukraine crisis. They are probably not the only ones who are thinking this right now:

    WHOOPI: "I mean, I'm sorry, where were all these Republicans when the former guy in office was holding money hostage saying, we're not going to give you the money until you give me the information about [Hunter] Biden? I don't remember them being concerned at all that there was an issue, particularly when the president of Ukraine said, listen, we need this. We need to be able to defend ourselves, and he dangled [military aid]. Where the hell were y'all? I don't remember you giving a good blessed [beep, beep]."

    ANA: "Why isn't Secretary Pompeo speaking up? Let me tell you all the things that Trump did. There's much more he did. He spread propaganda saying Ukraine had been involved in the 2016 elections. He ousted the very well-regarded U.S. ambassador to Ukraine because of who she was and what she did. He froze military assistance to Ukraine. He withheld a White House meeting with Zelensky, based on him not playing ball with him and he turned over Ukraine policy to Rudy Giuliani."

    WHOOPI: "That doesn't -- I'm sorry, you cannot stand up and say, [Joe Biden's] not doing his job. He's doing what he's supposed to do."

    The deplorable details surrounding Trump's attempted shakedown of Ukrainian President Zelensky have been suddenly resurrected in the public consciousness, garnering an increased level of relevance and importance which was not necessarily apparent to the country at the time the House first passed articles of impeachment in December 2019.

    Just my opinion, obviously, but I think the GOP's subsequent disgraceful conduct in defending Trump by viciously attacking Ukraine and trying to undermine the personal integrity of impeachment witnesses Marie Yovanovich and Col. Alexander Vindman is going to haunt them in a very big way. They can't suddenly walk all that stuff back and still stay in Trump's good graces. And they'll certainly never bring themselves to apologize for any of it, because apologies are NOT what Republicans generally do with much if any sincerity.

    Putin's unprovoked invasion put the GOP in a real political bind.


    Top o' the afternoon... (none / 0) (#149)
    by desertswine on Thu Mar 17, 2022 at 12:50:33 PM EST
    Miss Hogan.

    Excellent (none / 0) (#160)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Mar 18, 2022 at 08:19:19 AM EST
    Stacy Abrams In Star Trek

    March 18, 2022 at 6:07 am EDT By Taegan Goddard 9 Comments

    Stacey Abrams had a cameo in the season finale of Star Trek Discovery as the president of United Earth.

    Deadline has the backstory.

    I live this (none / 0) (#167)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Mar 19, 2022 at 04:16:41 PM EST
    The patron saint of the Ukrainian resistance

    St Javelin

    FishCamp (none / 0) (#170)
    by jmacWA on Sun Mar 20, 2022 at 06:40:07 AM EST
    Haven't seen you for a while... you doing all right?

    Yes, I'm ok, thanks (5.00 / 5) (#171)
    by fishcamp on Sun Mar 20, 2022 at 08:02:14 AM EST
    Just keeping an eye on the comments.  Trying to spring clean the huge amount of fishing equipment I've acquired over the years.  Anybody in the market for a marlin fly fishing rod and reel.  They're heavy duty.

    Ukrainian Veep (none / 0) (#176)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Mar 20, 2022 at 04:42:28 PM EST
    China Ambassador to US (none / 0) (#180)
    by KeysDan on Mon Mar 21, 2022 at 02:24:39 PM EST
    claims his country will not provide military and financial assistance to Russian invaders of Ukraine, after warnings from President Biden.

    Or maybe won't admit (none / 0) (#181)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Mar 21, 2022 at 02:38:57 PM EST
    9,861 dead (none / 0) (#182)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Mar 21, 2022 at 05:58:00 PM EST
    Asylum (none / 0) (#189)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Mar 23, 2022 at 07:30:54 AM EST

    Capitol Rioter Granted Asylum in Belarus
    March 23, 2022 at 7:58 am EDT By Taegan Goddard 56 Comments

    A man who appears on the FBI's wanted list for his alleged role in the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol riot has been granted asylum in Belarus, the Washington Post reports.