Ahmad Alissi's First Court Hearing

My condolences to the families and friends of those who lost their lives in and outside King Soopers in Boulder this week.

Ahmad Al Aliwi Alissa, age 21, will be told today that he is facing 9 counts of First Degree Murder -- After Deliberation; 1 count of First Degree Murder of a Police Officer and 1 count of Attempted First Degree Murder of a Police Officer.

He will be represented by members of Boulder's excellent Public Defender's office. The two defenders filing his pleadings are Kathryn Herrold and Samuel Dunn. (I assume they will be the ones who appear in court.)

The DA filed the case directly in District Court so there will be no county court judge. District Court Judge Thomas Mulvahill will handle all proceedings. He's held that position since 2009. Before then, he was a criminal defense lawyer in private practice. [More...]

The defense has been busy filing numerous motions all week, including:

  • Notice of Invocation of All Statutory, Case Law, and Constitutional Privileges (D-001)
  • Motion to Allow the Defense Expert to Be Present for Scientific Testing And/or Review of Evidence (D-002)
  • Notice of Revocation of Any and All Waivers of Privileges or Consent and Notice of Assertion of All Privileges and Guarantees Pursuant the Constitution of the State of Colorado and the United States Constitution (D-003)
  • Motion for Discovery (D-004)
  • Motion for Continuing Sequestration of Witnesses (D-005)
    *Motion for Protective Order (D-006)
    *Motion to Preserve and Produce on for Protective Order (D-007)
  • Objection to Consumptive Testing (D-008)
  • Motion for Access to the Scene (D-009)
  • Motion to Permit Public Defender Representatives to Attend Autopsy (D-01

In one motion, the defense says they went to the hospital the night of the shootings and were not allowed to speak with their client.

There's no good ending I can see for Mr. Ahmad Al Aliwi Alissa. By all accounts I've read, including the affidavits and witness statements in his earlier misdememeanor assault case, he seems to have serious mental health issues. I doubt he'll ever get out of jail. Killing ten people is one of those bells you just cant unring.

One other trait of Alissa's I noticed in the affidavit from this and his prior case: After the earlier assault, he walked into the principal's office to say he did it. In court on that case, he chose to go pro se, and pleaded guilty to the charge, without counsel. In King Soopers, he told the officers he did it right away. He seems to take accountability for his actions -- after the fact. And then claim he doesn't recall the incident very well (as if going into a disassociative state perhaps?) I'll leave it to the mental health experts to discuss what this could mean in terms of a mental defense. It may get him a stay in a mental health facility rather than a prison, at least for a while, but I doubt it will get him back home.

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    One of two bright spots in this dismal story (none / 0) (#1)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Mar 25, 2021 at 09:19:10 AM EST
    is he won't be coming home.  IMO.

    The other being the death penalty won't be an issue.

    The Interesting Thing For Me (none / 0) (#2)
    by RickyJim on Thu Mar 25, 2021 at 09:33:28 AM EST
    is how this incident will impact gun control efforts.  Since nothing much happened after the Sandy Hook school children massacre , Dec 14 2012, many have given up.

    Filibuster and Manchin's (5.00 / 1) (#5)
    by MO Blue on Thu Mar 25, 2021 at 12:18:13 PM EST
    Somewhat limited idea on gun control will IMO leave us once again with "thoughts and prayers" which have to date not been effective.

    For the tiny percentage of people who (none / 0) (#3)
    by Peter G on Thu Mar 25, 2021 at 10:23:38 AM EST
    become violent after developing a serious mental illness over their teen years -- disproportionately males, it seems -- the early 20s appear to be the danger point for a major break into acting out on psychotic thoughts with fatal consequences. (Suicide being more common that homicide, I believe. And family members the most likely victims if the person turns homicidal.) Not that I know whether that is actually what happened here. But it certainly doesn't seem, so far, to be a politically motivated crime of terrorism, for example. Nor an irrational grudge, as with cases of recently fired employees, or violent stalkers of ex-girlfriends. It seems to me that there would be quite a few particular gun control measures that should have a beneficial impact on deadly outcomes in such cases, including waiting periods and mandatory safe-use training.  

    Per news accounts (5.00 / 1) (#4)
    by MO Blue on Thu Mar 25, 2021 at 12:15:13 PM EST
     He was arrested in 2017 for violently attacking a high school classmate. He plead guilty to misdemeanor assault and was sentenced to probation and community service.

    LA Times

    Not sure if better background checks would have prevented him from legally obtaining guns but maybe it should.


    Really? (none / 0) (#6)
    by Abdul Abulbul Amir on Sun Mar 28, 2021 at 03:32:43 PM EST

    mandatory safe-use training  

    Do you really think any amount of safe-use training could have changed the outcome here?  Perhaps morality or humanity training would be better.

    We already have a waiting period for hand gun purchases and hand guns have a near monopoly firearm fatalities.  IOW, scant evidence of effectiveness.


    Noah Green (none / 0) (#7)
    by smott on Sun Apr 04, 2021 at 08:14:25 AM EST
    Our latest Capitol attacker - Appears to be classic young male psychotic break.
    Perhaps exacerbated by football/concussions. But the very sudden pronounced paranoia I believe is a real flag.

    Yes, culminating in (none / 0) (#8)
    by Peter G on Sun Apr 04, 2021 at 12:08:51 PM EST
    "suicide by cop"