Friday Open Thread

Trump's lawyers are presenting a First Amendment defense. I think arguing that he didn't understand what he was saying, which we all know was too often the case, would be a more credible argument. Or that there was a vast right wing conpsiracy of white supremacists who planned this for months and used him as a patsy, dressing themselves up in Trump and maga gear pretending to be his supporters but he has no idea who the h*ll they were. Shorter version: He was duped into supporting bad guys he thought were good guys.

Trump will be acquitted by spineless Republicans.

I don't think he's planning on running in 2024, I think he's trying to reserve the field for Ivanka or even worse, Don. Jr.

This is an open thread, all topics welcome.

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    WITNESSES BABY (5.00 / 1) (#9)
    by smott on Sat Feb 13, 2021 at 10:14:54 AM EST
    It's ON!!

    And now OFF. (none / 0) (#12)
    by Steve13209 on Sat Feb 13, 2021 at 01:59:59 PM EST
    You read it here first: My theory of the (5.00 / 3) (#13)
    by Peter G on Sat Feb 13, 2021 at 08:23:17 PM EST
    impeachment clause, as applied to former office holders, based on thinking about the recent events in light of the notion that Constitutional provisions should not be read so literally or narrowly as to be self-defeating: (1) The subject matter of an impeachment must always be conduct committed while in office and grossly inconsistent with the obligations of that office. (2) Ordinarily, the accused must be in office at the time the House returns the articles, and still be in office at the time of and throughout the trial. (3) However, if the House is proceeding with due diligence, but the officeholder resigns for the apparent purpose of defeating the jurisdiction of the Congress (e.g., Nixon), or resigns after impeachment by the House, for the purpose of preventing the Senate from acting, the process can continue, for the purpose of determining whether to impose the constitutional penalty of future disqualification.  (4) Similarly, if an officeholder commits an impeachable offense so near the end of their term as to prevent either the House from impeaching (not true here) or the Senate from trying the impeachment (as with Tr*mp) the process can proceed (if done with due diligence, as here), again because of the availability and pertinency of the disqualification sanction. (5) Impeachment should not be used, even for the purpose of imposing disqualification, against a former officeholder for wrongdoing that was not discovered until after they left office, or which was discovered earlier but not acted upon promptly then, because -- notwithstanding the logical availability of disqualification -- the risk of political motivation or bad faith in bringing the impeachment is too high to justify it. Critique?

    Thank you (none / 0) (#21)
    by KeysDan on Mon Feb 15, 2021 at 12:57:08 PM EST
    for the thoughtful and comprehensive theory set forth for the impeachment clause as applied to former office holders.  I have no critique, but offer these editorial thoughts that may bring added clarification to the clause:

    A preface that describes the impeachment clause and its sanctions ordinarily, essentially, statement (2)  along with a change from "must" be in office to "is" in office. And, that this describes the impeachment clause as applied to former office holders for possible Constitutional sanctions beyond the no longer applicable conviction and removal component to the disqualification from office.

    It is clear to me what you are getting at in statement (1) "grossly" inconsistent..., but that may only introduce unnecessary points for dispute. One man's "gross" is an other's consensual sexual affair.

    Your theory needs to be set forth and codified into law. Although, we know, unfortunately, that the Republican senators may not heed such laws or, even, senate determinations if they do not please them.  As Chief Manager, Raskin, reminded, to no avail, that the issue of the Constitutionality of the impeachment process after leaving office was "put to bed" after being debated for a day and voted upon.


    I do not believe that my ideas could (none / 0) (#23)
    by Peter G on Mon Feb 15, 2021 at 03:52:26 PM EST
    be enacted into law. Any law that Congress might pass on this subject by the bicameral process, with Presidential signature or over veto, would seem to be unconstitutional under the Clauses that provide that the House and the Senate may each establish their own rules (including rules for any given impeachment).

    242 years ago today on Feb. 14, 1779, ... (5.00 / 3) (#14)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sun Feb 14, 2021 at 04:17:17 PM EST
    ... native Hawaiians killed the renowned British explorer Captain James Cook, R.N., and four Royal Marines at Kealakekua Bay on the west side of the island of Hawaii.

    Some time earlier, Cook had ordered his sailors to dismantle the wood platform of a local heiau and burial ground, with the intent to use it for repairs to his two ships, HMS Resolution and HMS Discovery.

    He did so without ever once bothering to understand the significance of that heiau as a sacred site in native Hawaiian religion, as white men of stature and privilege were often wont to do at the time with indigenous cultures. In retaliation, Hawaiians then stole one of Resolution's two longboats several days later, and their attitudes made it obvious to the British that they were no longer welcome.

    Cook then made the fateful and extraordinarily foolish decision to go ashore personally and take hostage the island's ruling ali'i nui, Kalaniopu'u, and hold him as ransom for the return of the longboat. And so on the morning of February 14, the earnest captain rowed to shore with a party of Royal Marines and made his way to the royal compound.

    As Cook and his shore party returned to the beach with a captive Kalaniopu'u, who initially thought Cook was inviting him to the ship for a meal and parley, they were confronted by several thousand natives led by Kānekapōlei, first wife of Kalaniopu'u and the island's kuhina nui, who had watched Cook from her own compound and hurried to the shoreline ahead of the British.

    As Kānekapōlei pleaded with her husband to stop, Kalaniopu'u suddenly realized that Cook was not his friend but instead a likely enemy, and he immediately sat down and refused to move. Kānekapōlei then stepped forward and demanded that Cook release her husband. The native crowd with her also moved toward Cook's party to support their kuhina nui, and did so with clear belligerence.

    According to native Hawaiian accounts, when Cook responded by attempting to pull Kalaniopu'u to his feet, Kānekapōlei then inserted herself between him and her husband and ordered Cook to immediately leave with his men. Not being able to speak Hawaiian, Cook ignored her and further prodded her with the broad flat side of his sword as an inducement to move out of his way.

    When Chief Kana'ina stepped up and started to protest the imperious manner in which Cook was treating the kuhina nui, Cook then turned around and struck him hard with his sword's broadside, not unlike how he might have struck an impudent subordinate, before turning his attention back toward Kalaniopu'u and Kānekapōlei.

    Cook's brazen physical assault proved the breaking point for Kana'ina, who immediately hit the captain upside the head from behind with a war club and knocked the famed navigator to the ground, whereupon the native crowd furiously set upon the British shore party to protect their ali'i nui and kuhina nui.

    According to Ensign William Bligh of HMS Resolution, who wrote about having witnessed the disaster unfold onshore through his spyglass, the shoreline skirmish was over in but a matter of moments. The shore party's survivors rowed back to the ships, while Hawaiians carried the bodies of Capt. Cook and the four Marines up the hill to the village, where they dismembered them ritually.

    Although some British secondary accounts claim otherwise, it appears that their remains were never repatriated to the British, even upon request, for a proper burial at sea. One week later, HMS Resolution and HMS Discovery departed Kealakekua Bay emptyhanded, and now under the command of Capt. Charles Clerke of Discovery.

    Regardless, when all is said and done, it was a rather ignominious end for the illustrious Captain Cook. While contemporary British accounts of the time lament his demise at the hands of "savages", one can only conclude from the actual historical record that Cook courted his own fate with his ignorance and highhanded behavior, and that it ultimately cost both him and four of his men their lives.

    And that's my Valentine's Day story.

    Lots of differing stories about the death (none / 0) (#20)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Mon Feb 15, 2021 at 11:57:16 AM EST
    of Captain Cook.

    February is Black History Month. Why is there no White History Month? Well, I'd offer that for those of us who are white, it's because ours has been a rather shameful history of the corresponding marginalization, demonization, subjugation and in all too many worst cases, attempted annihilation of people of color.

    And so, another and lesser discussed aspect of white history has been our repeated attempts - not always successful - to whitewash our past, up to and including the recasting of our white forebears as victims in many instances when in fact we were the aggressor. Every month is White History Month.

    Thus, we learn in school that Captain James Cook "discovered" a chain of Pacific islands which was then inhabited by an estimated 800,000+ people who had first arrived there some 1,300 years before he did, only to tragically lose his life to those islands' "savage inhabitants" because they refused to accept his generous offer of a few iron axes and nails as compensation for his crew's wanton desecration of a sacred site and burial ground in order to repair his ships.

    After all, Cook was on a voyage of discovery and enlightenment, whereas the native Hawaiians were supposed to be peripheral characters in the great explorer's globetrotting morality play, whereby he introduces the glories of civilization to the ignorant brown and black masses.

    I hereby apologize for those native Hawaiians who had the audacity to go off script. But please rest assured that the good white captain had the last laugh, however posthumous it was, because one of these civilizing virtues that his crew introduced to the native populace was syphilis.



    you ask: (5.00 / 1) (#37)
    by leap on Tue Feb 16, 2021 at 11:54:02 AM EST
    "Why is there no White History Month?"

    Every month is White History Month. That's why.


    You're right about that. (none / 0) (#82)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Wed Feb 17, 2021 at 04:59:29 PM EST
    "When I think back on all the crap that I learned in high school,
    It's a wonder that I can think at all."

    - Paul Simon, "Kodachrome" (1973)

    That's because, historically speaking, it's taken a lot of time and effort to manufacture excuses and alternative narratives for white people over the generations. and it will likely take an equal amount of time and effort to debunk them.



    Ya, well, like I said, there are different (none / 0) (#38)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Tue Feb 16, 2021 at 12:08:58 PM EST
    stories of this incident. Apparently some were written down at the time by observers/participants, and others were passed down orally over the centuries like a game of Telephone, and others a blend of both. Plenty of Tomfoolery from both sides leading to the conflict, I'm sure. A reasonable person would probably accept that we really don't know all the specific details, and we never will...

    Too (none / 0) (#40)
    by FlJoe on Tue Feb 16, 2021 at 02:13:06 PM EST
    many cooks spoil the broth, or the history in this case.

    Indeed. (none / 0) (#64)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Wed Feb 17, 2021 at 01:29:18 PM EST
    Just Like the Bible (none / 0) (#41)
    by ScottW714 on Tue Feb 16, 2021 at 02:49:50 PM EST
    Relevance? (none / 0) (#65)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Wed Feb 17, 2021 at 01:29:46 PM EST
    None, But When Did Relevancy... (none / 0) (#66)
    by ScottW714 on Wed Feb 17, 2021 at 01:34:44 PM EST
    ...become a requirement.  I liked your rant and though it could be applied to other works of fiction.

    All good, thanks for explaining. (none / 0) (#68)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Wed Feb 17, 2021 at 01:38:21 PM EST
    I Did Like the Rant... (none / 0) (#70)
    by ScottW714 on Wed Feb 17, 2021 at 02:28:01 PM EST
    ...and I am curious why so vested in his death ?

    Rant? (none / 0) (#71)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Wed Feb 17, 2021 at 02:50:25 PM EST
    One comment was one sentence, the other was four. And all five were fairly even-keeled, imo...

    Anyway, DFH's magnum opus made me curious about a guy I never really thought much about before. Turns out he was an interesting cat.


    Couldn't think of a More Appropriate Word... (none / 0) (#74)
    by ScottW714 on Wed Feb 17, 2021 at 03:18:33 PM EST
    ...for the passion in your paragraph and too lazy to thesaurus it.

    Who is DFH ?


    Donald from Hawaii (none / 0) (#76)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Wed Feb 17, 2021 at 04:10:18 PM EST
    Never rub another man's rhubarb (none / 0) (#27)
    by jondee on Mon Feb 15, 2021 at 05:39:37 PM EST
    and don't mess with another man's heiau or with an ali'i nui.

    So Cook Voted for Trump ? (none / 0) (#39)
    by ScottW714 on Tue Feb 16, 2021 at 12:53:40 PM EST
    Capt. Cook served king and country. (none / 0) (#85)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Wed Feb 17, 2021 at 05:06:24 PM EST
    Hopefully (5.00 / 1) (#29)
    by jondee on Mon Feb 15, 2021 at 07:33:13 PM EST
    this will mean the commission issuing subpoenas to the clown cavalcade from Fox and to Rudy, the Crack Hen, Limbaugh, Alex Jones et al - to every prominent, influential voice who contributed to whipping the mob into a frenzy.

    Breaking News (5.00 / 1) (#53)
    by MO Blue on Wed Feb 17, 2021 at 11:24:17 AM EST
    Rush Limbaugh Dead

    Site policy against speaking negatively against the dead so I will leave it at that.

    Google (5.00 / 1) (#61)
    by Zorba on Wed Feb 17, 2021 at 12:43:52 PM EST
    Bette Davis quote on Joan Crawford's death.  ;-)

    Or Clarence Darrow (5.00 / 1) (#101)
    by Towanda on Wed Feb 17, 2021 at 08:18:48 PM EST
    who said that he could not call for anyone's death, but he could take pleasure in reading the obituary.

    Bill Hicks (none / 0) (#67)
    by jondee on Wed Feb 17, 2021 at 01:37:12 PM EST
    timelessly summed-up of essence of Rush years ago.

    With that last act (dying)... (5.00 / 2) (#62)
    by desertswine on Wed Feb 17, 2021 at 12:50:35 PM EST
    he made the world a better place.  How's that?

    Rush has left this earth (none / 0) (#69)
    by MO Blue on Wed Feb 17, 2021 at 01:50:31 PM EST
    For warmer climates. A place has been reserved for him.

    an excellent thought: (none / 0) (#124)
    by leap on Thu Feb 18, 2021 at 10:16:26 AM EST
    "For someone who hated the idea of gender neutral bathrooms, he will be surprised to find that his grave will become one."

    Mars (5.00 / 3) (#132)
    by FlJoe on Thu Feb 18, 2021 at 02:52:32 PM EST
    lander Perseverance has landed successfully.

    Two major scandals brewing (5.00 / 1) (#142)
    by MO Blue on Sat Feb 20, 2021 at 11:53:05 AM EST
    in the Biden administration.  

    WH junk yard dog

    How do you pronounce a Midwest supermarket's name

    Pandemic killing people, people dying from lack of heat, people lack jobs, food and shelter yet, these are major news events.  

    Anything (none / 0) (#143)
    by Zorba on Sat Feb 20, 2021 at 03:15:27 PM EST
    they can pick on, they're going to pick.

    ... Big Island Video News has recently finished compiling and editing the USGS's recently released archive of drone videos documenting the massive 2018 Kilauea flank eruption in Puna, which ultimately engulfed the communities of Leilani Estates and Kapoho. The first two parts are HERE and HERE, and the third will be released sometime this week. It's pretty spectacular footage.

    Wow. Thanks for posting those video links. (none / 0) (#154)
    by leap on Sun Feb 21, 2021 at 11:02:19 PM EST
    How amazing to watch another unstoppable natural event like that, eating up vegetation and homes, but creating more land in the process. Really spectacular. I live in an area covered with 17 to 6 million year-old fissure eruption lava flows, thousands of feet thick. It must have looked something like that back in the day, but times umpteen thousand.

    Can't wait for the third video!


    We live 25 miles from Leilani Estates. (none / 0) (#155)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Mon Feb 22, 2021 at 03:21:01 AM EST
    But the biggest volcanic threat we face here in Hilo comes not from nearby Kilauea, but rather from its much larger neighbor to the southwest, Mauna Loa. 13,700 feet in elevation and over 2,000 square miles in area, Mauna Loa is the largest subaerial volcano on Earth by height and volume, measuring 75 miles long and 64 miles wide.

    Mauna Loa last erupted in the spring of 1984 and spewed a large flow that stopped about five miles from Hilo's southern outskirts. An earlier flow from its 1940 eruption entered the ocean just south of Waikoloa on the north Kona Coast, over 100 miles in the opposite direction. Further, in 1868 it unleashed a series of powerful earthquakes over several months that transformed the island's southern landscape, and were estimated by modern geologists to have been over 8.0 on the Richter Scale.

    Mauna Loa's potential reach and impact across the Big Island is therefore quite considerable.



    well, you DO live (none / 0) (#156)
    by leap on Mon Feb 22, 2021 at 09:22:22 AM EST
    on top of a huge and well-known Hot-Spot! And then there's the Yellowstone Hot Spot. Most the contiguous USA lives near that one....

    The Yellowstone Hotspot ... (none / 0) (#159)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Mon Feb 22, 2021 at 06:24:45 PM EST
    ... is the youngest of a chain of volcanic sites that stretch along the Snake River basin through Idaho and Oregon. The extensive lava beds found in the Deschutes River basin in central Oregon near Bend is part of that chain.

    Our volcanoes in Hawaii are rarely violent in eruption, but as we saw in 2018, they do emit prodigious amounts of lava that tend to flow downhill from the eruption site.

    That's why Kilauea doesn't really pose a threat to Hilo even though it's much closer to us than Mauna Loa. The active Kilauea rift zone extending eastward to Kapoho falls on the south side of the mountain's ridge line, so the lava tends to flow toward the south and east. Mauna Loa is so huge that the lava will flow down whatever side of the mountain it first overflows. Tts main caldera at the summit, Mokuʻāweoweo, is nearly seven miles in diameter and is presently enveloped in snow.

    In this enhance mosaic satellite photo of the Big Island taken from orbit prior to the 2018 eruption, you can clearly discern the sheer size of Mauna Loa, and all those black streaks emanating from its large caldera are recent lava flows from the last 200 years. The black flows you see southeast of Mauna Loa heading toward the ocean are from Kilauea, which rests on the mountain's south flank but is its own separate and unique volcanic system. Those particular flows have all occurred since 1983.

    Mauna Loa's reach actually encompasses about two-thirds of the island, from north Kona to Ka'u (the island's southernmost point) to Hilo Bay. The mountain itself is only 700,000 years old, making it quite young by geologic standards. (By contrast, the island of Oahu is over 5 million years old.)

    Personally, I find our volcanoes to be fascinating.  


    TGIF (none / 0) (#1)
    by fishcamp on Fri Feb 12, 2021 at 03:40:35 PM EST
    Islamorada is packed with tourists for the three day holiday.  I'm fully stocked with food and drink, and plan to travel only by boat.  Hope you all have a wonderful weekend.

    Hopefully, your vax reactions have dissipated. (none / 0) (#6)
    by oculus on Fri Feb 12, 2021 at 07:31:41 PM EST
    Ice & Snow (none / 0) (#2)
    by ScottW714 on Fri Feb 12, 2021 at 05:00:53 PM EST
    I have been iced-in since Wednesday.  We had rain that froze and everything was like glass.  I though it would be a good idea to park my truck in the garage.  Well it's on a super steep drive so I can't get it out because of the ice.

    Neighbor drove me to get groceries because tomorrow more ice, around an inch they are saying, then Sunday 8-12 inches of snow.  It's 4 miles form our neighborhood to a road that isn't gravel, way scary in the mountains, but then once on the highway, they were clear of ice.

    It's weird being trapped in, but I am stocked up with a good deal of booze.  Also it's suppose to get to 1 degree before windchill, I was in Houston last week, 79 degrees.  

    Not only am I not built for this, I don't have the gear for temps below 20.

    Same (none / 0) (#3)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Feb 12, 2021 at 05:13:33 PM EST
    Iced in.  Steep driveway.  But today I was able to get out for a supply run.  Also it's about to get very very cold.  Minus single digits at night.  Before the wind chill.

    Pretty unusual for it to be this cold for this long here.


    High (none / 0) (#4)
    by FlJoe on Fri Feb 12, 2021 at 05:19:15 PM EST
    80, low 67. Living in the land of Duh does have it's perks.

    Welcome to Missouri (none / 0) (#5)
    by MO Blue on Fri Feb 12, 2021 at 07:21:42 PM EST
    Glad you stocked up and are able to bunker down and stay warm and cozy.

    Also (none / 0) (#7)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Feb 13, 2021 at 07:31:48 AM EST
    If you really get an inch of ice it could be pretty disastrous.

    That much ice will not only bring down power lines.  Brought down from trees first but an inch might bring them down without trees.  That a lot of ice.  

    There was a really bad ice storm in 2009.

    I did not live here then but I visited right after. More than half the trees were destroyed.   People were without power for weeks in some cases.   That was between 1/4 and 1/2 inch.

    They say 1/4 inch can be disaster.


    More so (none / 0) (#8)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Feb 13, 2021 at 08:11:01 AM EST
    If there is heavy snow after.  

    We used to get that frozen rain (none / 0) (#10)
    by fishcamp on Sat Feb 13, 2021 at 11:42:40 AM EST
    on top of a few inches of snow in Portland, when I was a kid.  My sisters and I would ice scate out the back door, across the lawn, over the sidewalk, and head down to the corner at night where the street light was.  We would scate until the ice wore through to the street.  That was fun.

    We are looking at a very large (none / 0) (#11)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Feb 13, 2021 at 12:22:03 PM EST
    Snow storm.  We are under a winter storm warning,  low estimates are a foot.  Unusual for here.  It will paralyze everything.

    Fortunately I got out yesterday and I'm stocked

    Let it snow


    I am officially stranded (none / 0) (#15)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Feb 15, 2021 at 09:01:41 AM EST
    There is about 6 inches of snow and it's still snowing.  Most of the day today then a break and more on Wednesday and Thursday.

    My only concern right now is I may run out of some prescriptions. Nothing life or death but still sucks.


    Oh and the temp (none / 0) (#16)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Feb 15, 2021 at 09:04:13 AM EST
    It's  4 and feels like 8 below.   Tonight will be the coldest then it starts warming up.

    Below zero tonight, maybe double digits, before windchills.  I feel bad for all the little forest creatures.


    Had (none / 0) (#18)
    by FlJoe on Mon Feb 15, 2021 at 09:14:59 AM EST
    to turn on the AC yesterday.

    Me too Joe. (none / 0) (#22)
    by fishcamp on Mon Feb 15, 2021 at 03:17:44 PM EST
    Topped (none / 0) (#30)
    by FlJoe on Tue Feb 16, 2021 at 04:56:13 AM EST
    out at 89 degrees yesterday, a new daily record.

    There is a road (none / 0) (#17)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Feb 15, 2021 at 09:13:04 AM EST
    Stay (none / 0) (#19)
    by KeysDan on Mon Feb 15, 2021 at 10:52:01 AM EST
    warm and safe

    Trying (none / 0) (#26)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Feb 15, 2021 at 05:06:41 PM EST

    • WHAT: Dangerous wind chills, blowing snow, and additional heavy snow.

    • SNOW AMOUNTS: Six to ten inches of additional snow is expected.

    • WIND CHILLS: Wind chill values from zero to 20 below zero at times.

    • WHEN: Dangerous cold will occur through at least Tuesday morning with blowing snow. Heavy snow is in the forecast Tuesday night through Thursday morning.

    • WHERE: Northern and central Arkansas.

    • IMPACTS: Prolonged exposure could cause damage to exposed skin in 30 minutes or less. The cold air will also impact young livestock and pets.

    Happy to be in balmy (none / 0) (#31)
    by Chuck0 on Tue Feb 16, 2021 at 10:30:46 AM EST
    south central PA. It's currently 12 degrees in Fort Worth, Texas. 42 and sunny here. But hey, there's no climate change. It's a Chinese hoax.

    Last night was wicked (none / 0) (#33)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Feb 16, 2021 at 10:46:06 AM EST
    The feels like was 20 below when I woke up.  This is supposed to start ending now. 50s this weekend.  It's possible I won't be able to get out if my driveway till then.

    A friend is coming by tomorrow, I will meet him at the road, to run me to the drugstore.  

    Otherwise it's just cold.  I read there are rolling blackouts in some places because of the demand for power for heat.    Not here so far.


    Snow plow (none / 0) (#34)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Feb 16, 2021 at 10:47:59 AM EST
    Just this minute went by my house.

    Lost Power Last Night... (none / 0) (#35)
    by ScottW714 on Tue Feb 16, 2021 at 11:11:30 AM EST
    ...at 3:00 am.  I had went to get a propane heater Saturday of course they were all out at the stores I went to.  Anyways I bought a turkey fryer burner and lit that bad boy up when the power went out.  Been up since to make sure I didn't burn the place to the ground or poison anyone with CO2.

    It was -8 when that happened, the burner worked well, kept the main floor above 60 for abut 4 hours.  I used my battery powered leaf blower to distribute some of the heat, real hillbilly stuff, but it worked.  


    Sun is out, now it's 8 degrees and climbing fast.  I had pulled my truck out of my garage so it's not snowed in.  I would say we got 5 or 6 inches of snow, but it really helped that there wasn't much of a wind.  But more coming tomorrow.  My dogs love the snow, first time for them and it's hard to get them to come back into the house.

    Whoever put heat pumps in houses as the main heat sources ought be strung up.  My bill in Houston for gas is like $30 in the winter, natural gas works well and is cheap.  Electric heat pump is costly and doesn't work well under 30 degrees.

    I'm not real religious, but this is truly god's country.  It was so beautiful in the summer, then last week the ice made the mountain trees shimmer like diamonds, and now they are full of snow.  It's breathtaking.


    It really is (none / 0) (#36)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Feb 16, 2021 at 11:19:46 AM EST

    I have multiple heat sources.  Electric, wood and propane.

    Both wood and propane work without power.  

    The kitchen stove top even works.  Not the oven.


    I remember you living (none / 0) (#42)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue Feb 16, 2021 at 03:22:51 PM EST
    in Houston for quite a long time. How did you end up in MO? Job change? transfer?

    Long Story... (none / 0) (#43)
    by ScottW714 on Tue Feb 16, 2021 at 05:34:23 PM EST
    Still live in Houston(Sugar Land), but thru a series of fantastic events(luck) we ended up with a cabin on Table Top Lake.

    The only downside, crappy internet.  Eagle Rock, MO population like 150 people and I live 8 miles from there.  But... not sure when I will get it, but I put a deposit down on Starlink.  It will be here by the end of the year.  Elon Musk could get elected President if he can get all the rural people in America fast reliable internet for a decent price.

    In Houston I get 400Mbps, here I get 40-50 when it's working right, otherwise its about 12 thru my phone.  I use a hotspot, but because I use so much data I have to go thru a broker of AT&T data.  It's shady, unreliable, but the best I can do.


    I looked (none / 0) (#44)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue Feb 16, 2021 at 05:45:13 PM EST
    up Table Top Lake. It looks very pretty. Though I'm not sure it does much for anybody in the winter.

    I have been saying for a while that if the Dems could figure out a way to bring internet to rural areas that it would revolutionize and revitalize rural areas in the country. Mark Warner turned VA blue by getting rural broadband. So many young people work on the computer and yet cannot afford housing and these rural areas have housing that is affordable. It would be a win/win for almost everyone. The main obstacle at least here in GA is that people in rural areas are afraid of change even if it is for the better.


    17+ inches of snow here (none / 0) (#45)
    by Towanda on Wed Feb 17, 2021 at 02:27:15 AM EST
    near our lively Great Lake, and subzero temperatures.

    We just wear our warmest sweaters and wooly socks, you wusses. And leave a little earlier for medical appointments.


    Got about another foot last night (none / 0) (#46)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Feb 17, 2021 at 08:35:37 AM EST
    I'm am buried again.

    I hope it really does get into the 50s this weekend.  I won't be able to drive until then.

    There is no way I can leave my driveway.   It might be possible with chains, which I do not have.  

    Because this is freak weather here.  It very different when it's weather you normally get.

    It is dangerously cold in many places that rarely get below freezing.  Streets are buried in places that have no budget for clearing a snowstorm from the streets.


    This is all last night (none / 0) (#47)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Feb 17, 2021 at 08:42:58 AM EST
    And it's still snowing (none / 0) (#48)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Feb 17, 2021 at 09:10:23 AM EST
    Until this afternoon

    Howdy, you probably don't have (none / 0) (#58)
    by fishcamp on Wed Feb 17, 2021 at 12:27:43 PM EST
    any snowshoes, but you could make a pair out of two tennis racquets, if you had them.  Then you and your trusty dog could traipse down to the store.  Do you have electricity?  Good luck compañero.

    I'm all good so far (none / 0) (#75)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Feb 17, 2021 at 03:59:37 PM EST
    We have not lost power. And it has finally stopped snowing a short time ago.

    No tennis rackets either.  But I don't need to go to the store really.

    I'm hoping by the time I do this will melt.  Warmer days are coming soon.


    I Think We Got... (none / 0) (#51)
    by ScottW714 on Wed Feb 17, 2021 at 10:06:08 AM EST
     ...about 4 or 5 inches.  Neighbor tells me our road is private, which means it's never plowed.  You just follow the tracks and hope like hell those tracks don't take you into the ditch.  Once you get to the mail boxes, about a half mile, it's plowed & paved, but one lane.

    I grew up in Wisconsin, driving in icy/snowy/below zero conditions, its standard business.  But there ain't no way I would get on these mountainess roads with a little snow or ice.  There are places that I am surprised my truck has traction when it's dry.  Other places I think you may keep going until no one would know you ever were on the road.  And living right on the border, it's pretty obvious that one state cares more about clearing roads than the other.

    I went out yesterday, but I think this is above my pay grade for driving.  There are no tracks to follow today and no sun to melt the snow off the roads.  


    City girl here (none / 0) (#52)
    by MO Blue on Wed Feb 17, 2021 at 11:19:01 AM EST
    At one time we had the best of all worlds. The person in charge of the snow plow lived in my subdivision. We got our roads plowed right away. Unfortunately, that is no longer the case but my suburban city does a fairly good job of getting our roads clear.

    No way in God's world would I drive on winding rural roads covered with ice and snow. Some of the roads with sharp S curves are not great driving on in good weather, let alone when it is bad.


    It's not freak weather anymore (none / 0) (#103)
    by Towanda on Wed Feb 17, 2021 at 08:23:24 PM EST
    This happened a decade ago, and in Texas, people were warned to winterize utilities.

    Instead, they kept voting for cheap power.

    My stepson in Arkansas boasted about moving there for lower energy bills. He's not boasting now.


    I Have Been in Houston for Over 2 Decades... (none / 0) (#107)
    by ScottW714 on Wed Feb 17, 2021 at 09:07:17 PM EST
    ...never has 60% of the county been without power because of cold weather.  Never have we a single day off related to cold weather.  I think once a couple years ago we got two days off for snow and virtually no one lost power.  We get far more days off for torrential rains.  I have never seen the temp below 20, it hit 9 degrees Tuesday.

    This is a natural disaster that doesn't stop at the Texas border.  Can we not blame the victims until they, at least, have their power restored & water, and people stop dying ?


    Karma is a bhitch (none / 0) (#117)
    by jmacWA on Thu Feb 18, 2021 at 07:10:26 AM EST
    Drive fast, freeze a yankee

    Those who drove with these bumper stickers during the oil crisis in the 70's are now on the receiving end of their karmic past actions.  I feel as sorry for them, as they did for us Northerners.


    What ? (none / 0) (#119)
    by ScottW714 on Thu Feb 18, 2021 at 08:18:23 AM EST
    Jesus, even Trump would be envious of your grudge holding.

    If you were driving in the 70's you had to be born before ~60, making the youngest 61 now, so I am going to go out on a limb and say at least half those people driving with that bumper sticker are already dead.  

    Feel better, or do you need millions of innocent people to suffer more because you paid high prices for fuel in the 70's and some idiot made fun of it ?

    This is literally the worse case of killing the messenger every at Talk Left.  Isn't your misplaced anger really about the price of energy in the 70's and not the people, who many or may not even been from Texas, with the dumb bumper stickers?

    Karma is the left, god is the right, but in the end both sides love to blame victims in times of crises.


    OHHH... too bad (none / 0) (#120)
    by jmacWA on Thu Feb 18, 2021 at 08:35:38 AM EST
    Feel better, or do you need millions of innocent people to suffer more because you paid high prices for fuel in the 70's and some idiot made fun of it ?

    If I am alive, there are many others who were alive at the same time still living... some of whom are now facing there karmic reality.  That you don't like it is of no issue to me.  I gave you one example, I am sure if you look you can find many others of Texans laughing at the pain of others.


    Karma is a bhitch (none / 0) (#121)
    by ScottW714 on Thu Feb 18, 2021 at 09:16:11 AM EST
    You're giddy with the though of other people suffering, so if I am understanding your argument, I have to conclude that karma is headed your way.  
    Or is there some exemption I don't know about ?

    Reading comprehension (none / 0) (#133)
    by jmacWA on Thu Feb 18, 2021 at 03:07:03 PM EST
    IS NOT your strong point.  I said I didn't feel sorry for them.  And I still don't... the fact that they are cold now means they are getting what they wished on the north.  Freezing a yankee has nothing to do with driving like you think... A very large portion of the northeast heats with oil... That's hence their thoughts to freeze us.  I will accept anything Karma throws my way, but it certainly wont be because you seem to think I am giddy.

    I don't believe anyone is giddy (none / 0) (#134)
    by Chuck0 on Thu Feb 18, 2021 at 03:43:13 PM EST
    at Texan's misfortune. More of pointing out you reap what you sow when you elect the kind of people Texas has elected over the past 20 years.

    I lived in Fort Worth for over 15 years. I don't recall that it ever got into the single digits the entire time I lived there. My friend just north of there said it was 6 or 7 the other night.

    He likes to make remarks about my having become a "Yankee" since I moved to PA. I have offered to mail him a snow shovel. Do they even sell snow shovels in Fort Worth. I can buy one at the grocery store here in PA.


    Think I heard that at least (none / 0) (#50)
    by MO Blue on Wed Feb 17, 2021 at 10:03:46 AM EST
    one area in Texas didn't even have snow plows. Doubt that snow tires are standard equipment on cars in warmer climates.  States that regularly have extremely cold weather and lots of snow are much better equipped to handle it. Also, people who do not regularly drive in snow are often a danger to themselves and others.

    No Snow Plows in Houston (none / 0) (#54)
    by ScottW714 on Wed Feb 17, 2021 at 11:41:34 AM EST
    The only thing I know about is a couple chemical spray trucks that they will spray freeway ramps so they don't freeze over.  No salt trucks either.

    Dallas gets snow every year so they probably have gear, not sure about Austin or San Antonio.  I doubt El Paso sees snow since they are on the Mexican border.  The pan handle probably sees a lot of it.

    Conservatives are trying to blame clean energy for the mess, but it's the infrastructure hasn't been updated to meet extreme needs.  From what I am reading the natural gas well heads are freezing up everywhere because they are relics, a couple wind turbines have froze, but that is not why people are without power.  The electric companies are deregulated which means that although there is outrage over the loss of power, most likely they haven't done anything illegal, like invest x number of dollars back into the grid.

    I was telling my neighbor up here that we have like 80 companies to choose from for electric.  Then I explained the process.  Hold on, this is a long one.  If you want to get the best rates, you have to first download a year of your smart meter's data on usage.  It's a csv file, then you find a website that isn't from an energy company and load that your data to see what plan will have the lowest dollar amount over a year.

    None of it's straight forward because they all have an underlying charge to CenterPoint, who owns the lines.  So the companies won't give you a straight rate, you get things like free weekends or free Nest thermostat.  In Galveston, if I stay under 1000 kW/mth, it is a flat $50, if I go over $200, even by a watt.  Or there are tiered rates, your first 1000 kW one price, then 1000-2000 another price, and with any plan if you go over 2000 a month, they charged outrageous rates.  Which is good.  

    Deregulation is insanity, but if you put the work in, you can find really good deals.  The problem is after your contract ends, usually a year or two, the same plan is never available.  Almost a bait and switch except they bait you with great rates hoping you won't notice that they are slowly increasing once you are done with the contract.  Happen to me, they would send us a rebate gift card every year, and I though we just using more juice.  Then I got a summer bill for I think $390 and I started researching.  Every month the rate was going just a bit, but over time that adds up.  Now in Texas in the middle of summer we might have 2 or 3 bills over $200 and never over $250.  But overall it's real slimeball stuff meant to get as much money as they can from customers.  It's ridiculous that I might pay double or half what my neighbor pays for the same number of kW.

    Funny thing, in Missouri, one option and the rate is lower than in Texas, the energy capital.  Off the top of my head, I think 9 cents here for a kW and 11 back home.  But I bet most pay over 11 in Texas.  And of the 11, I think 9 goes to CenterPoint.  Everyone is charged the same for Centerpoint on their electric company bill.  They call it a line or service charge.  And the 80 or so 'electric' companies are essentially billing companies.

    Did not mean to go off, but if I here one more clown talk on the TV talk about how great de-regulation of energy is I am going to lose it.


    Georgia either (none / 0) (#57)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed Feb 17, 2021 at 12:07:17 PM EST
    must have copied Texas or vice versa on deregulation except our electric is not deregulated but our gas is. And it is the same story. Atlanta GAs light owns all the lines and the service "fee" varies from provider to provider. You are always getting these offers to switch but if you switch before your contract ends you get a $100 disconnection fee. Basically utilities operate like cable companies. They get you to buy in at a good rate but then start hitting you with charges on down the road.

    I'm so fortunate (none / 0) (#59)
    by leap on Wed Feb 17, 2021 at 12:39:49 PM EST
    to live where we have PUBLIC utilities, with elected PUDistrict commissioners. An added bonus, I live between two of our PUD-owned and operated hydro-electric dams....

    No snowplow trucks inthe largest city in Wisconsin (none / 0) (#106)
    by Towanda on Wed Feb 17, 2021 at 08:59:08 PM EST
    your home state, either.

    You have garbage trucks. When snow is coming, we just attach plows to garbage trucks. And they also can be salt trucks.

    We figured out that savings in this Socialist city after the great blizzard of  1948. And the plan became famed, written about all across these  country.

    Of course, learning about this also required literacy in the South. Oops.


    Of course, learning about this also required literacy in the South. Oops.

    So. Open bigotry is OK here on TL now?


    Bigotry hs Always Been OK Here (none / 0) (#111)
    by ScottW714 on Wed Feb 17, 2021 at 09:39:23 PM EST
    It's only disallowed if you insult a TL protected class.  Just look at the skirting of the rules in the Limbaugh thread.  You never seen people so giddy with death.  But if someone wrote similar things about someone like RBG...

    Please identify one single respect, just one (5.00 / 2) (#122)
    by Peter G on Thu Feb 18, 2021 at 09:21:59 AM EST
    in which you can legitimately analogize Limbaugh to RBG. It's not his right-wing politics or his opposition to equal rights that is triggering this reaction, but rather his highly successful career of profiteering from a style built on mocking and belittling the persecuted and the defenseless, with little or no regard for the truth (see, e.g., birtherism and "stop the steal"). And the evident and longlasting harm to the American social and political landscape that it contributed mightily to creating. I am reminded that although he would never have done the same in reverse, the ACLU came to his defense over the privacy of his medical records when his drug dependency became known.

    Contrary to what many Republicans think, ... (5.00 / 1) (#135)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Thu Feb 18, 2021 at 03:43:36 PM EST
    ... Rush Limbaugh never promoted genuine political conservatism. Rather, he debased it, caricatured it, and vulgarized it as shameless right-wing performance art which celebrated misogyny, racism, ignorance and bigotry.

    In so doing, he reduced and degraded once-constructive conservative arguments that used to offer an alternative vision of America, and instead replaced them with a self-aggrandizing agenda that sought to perpetually "own the libs" and pursue power merely for its own sake.

    Limbaugh's now receiving posthumously what he put out there in life. His Mini-Me clones on the right celebrate him because he appealed to his audience's worst instincts and weaponized white male rage, while liberals and progressives loathe him for the exact same thing.

    Speaking for myself only, it is my hope that the occasion of Limbaugh's passing will provide us an opportunity to reassess and reconsider the FCC's former "Fairness Doctrine," which held that our nation's airwaves were a public trust, a position which was roundly rejected by the Reagan administration in 1987 when the policy was repealed.



    I Can't Peter... (none / 0) (#128)
    by ScottW714 on Thu Feb 18, 2021 at 01:57:11 PM EST
    ...but that wasn't my point, I am no fan of Rush.  The point was that the rules don't apply evenly.  I could copy and paste these comments in a RBG post and probably get booted.  Like a famous poster always writes, 'different rules for different fools'.  I hate that democrats get so bent when pointing out their hypocrisy when they are constantly pointing it out in others as something really bad.

    Rush was a horrible human being, RBG was the polar opposite, in every sense.  But the same rules on posting should apply, as in your example above, the ACLU.  They don't pick favorites, they have a set of standards and they apply to everyone, equally. They aren't tasked with deciding if someone who needs their help would return it.  They are above the pettiness.

    When people act like cheering bystanders at an execution because they are glad the SOB is dead, that's mental. I'm not above it, I wanted to post so bad, but we should be striving as democrats to be better than republicans and cheering someones death is one of their more ugly traits.  

    Imagine how Trump reacted to RBG's death... I would like to think we are all above that and that is why we aren't republicans.    
    That rule is probably my favorite rule at TL.  Just too bad we aren't real good at self-governing.


    Scott, (5.00 / 3) (#126)
    by KeysDan on Thu Feb 18, 2021 at 11:28:50 AM EST
    From my perspective, I mourn Rush Limbaugh's life.  I do not mourn his death.  

    As to a "5" rating on a comment on the impeachment and trial, it reflects agreement with the commenter on the Democrats political courage and competence.  All 50 Democratic senators voted to impeach in both of Trump's trials, including those in Trump states (Manchin, WVA, Brown, OH, Tester, MT) as well as those in swing states.

      And, the Constitutional crime of Trump that falls under Article I rather than Article Iii.  Or, that the impeachment and trial strategy did not capture the ilk of those who reside in places such as TheVillages. I view your thoughts on the matter with respect, I am willing to admit to being the one who is dense since I do not understand your position, and I have tried. It could  be that we are not really far apart on this one with clarification.


    From the L.A. Times yesterday: (none / 0) (#115)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Thu Feb 18, 2021 at 06:10:34 AM EST
    "What is the appropriate response when someone who spent his life attempting to exploit and aggravate the political and social divisions of a nation dies? [...] No matter which side you fall on, Limbaugh paved the way for a baseline of incivility that has been normalized in political discourse. [...] In a way, the response to his death was the perfect tribute to his life. One can only hope this divisive final chapter for Limbaugh will end soon and mark, as deaths often do, at least the beginning of the end of an era."

    It's worth a read.


    A flag at half mast in front of a neighborhood (none / 0) (#140)
    by oculus on Fri Feb 19, 2021 at 07:38:34 PM EST

    Another way to honor Rush (5.00 / 2) (#141)
    by jondee on Fri Feb 19, 2021 at 10:00:11 PM EST
    (a moment of silence please) - while a nation still mourns, the owner of an Instagram account has raised a half million dollars in the last couple of days for Planned Parenthood.

    "Because it's what Rush would've wanted."


    Stop. (none / 0) (#109)
    by ScottW714 on Wed Feb 17, 2021 at 09:29:51 PM EST
    It's just getting ridiculous to be lectured by someone who clearly doesn't understand the magnitude of this natural disaster because this weather is their norm.

    Yeah, I lived in Milwaukee and liked the garbage trucks that plowed snow, but you know, that means that the city has to own garbage trucks to begin with.  Also, if it's the same as when I lived there, all that snow is dumped into into Lake Michigan, along with salt, trash, and other pollutants in it.  The very Lake in which they get their drinking water from.

    Not really sure what that has to do with people suffering because of a natural disaster that is covering like 10 states.  Not sure how that helps my co-workers who are without water because the lines coming into their homes are frozen because there hasn't ever been a frost line in Houston.  

    At the very least wait until folks stop dying before lecturing victims on their own stupidity.


    Pointing fingers at Texas politicians and (5.00 / 2) (#123)
    by Peter G on Thu Feb 18, 2021 at 09:25:36 AM EST
    their oil industry puppeteers over greed and bad policy is not the same as blaming ordinary Texans for their present tragic emergency.

    C'mon, someone (5.00 / 1) (#139)
    by Towanda on Fri Feb 19, 2021 at 02:40:18 AM EST
    must do garbage collection in Texas.

    Towanda: "C'mon, someone must do garbage collection in Texas."

    ... I think of Charles Durning as The Governor in "The Best Little Wh*rehouse in Texas."



    Here's the problem: (none / 0) (#116)
    by Ga6thDem on Thu Feb 18, 2021 at 06:17:29 AM EST
    Texas and many of its residents inflicted 4 years of suffering on the entire country with Trump. Don't forget how many people Trump has killed at the border and with COVID. And many of these same people voted for more.

    I imagine Texas is like GA. There are a lot of good people working to change things with a few constantly putting boulders in their way. Unfortunately, there are more people who support the boulders than will accept change for the better.


    So Any State in Which Trump... (none / 0) (#118)
    by ScottW714 on Thu Feb 18, 2021 at 08:06:29 AM EST
    ...won the electoral college is fair game for bigotry and jackassery or just Texas ?

    Texas has 29 million people, less than 5 million voted for Trump.  Who is to say where they stand, where kids might votes someday, where the people with questionable citizenship lean, but an overwhelming number of people here did not vote for Donald Trump.

    I'm not going to sit by while Trump like tactics of grudge holding, insults, and profiling are used to denigrate a state I love.  Yeah, Texas is screwed up right now, but that is precisely whey they call them natural disasters.  If they didn't cause massive amounts of damage and kill people, they would call it what it is, weather.

    When temps are hitting lows of values lower than all of recorded history, people need to back the F off and quit blaming victims like Fox News.


    I live (5.00 / 1) (#131)
    by Ga6thDem on Thu Feb 18, 2021 at 02:17:33 PM EST
    in GA and as you know I have been as hard on my state as any other.

    Perhaps you can explain why people vote for face eating leopards and then are surprised when the leopards eat their face?


    Good idea (none / 0) (#24)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Feb 15, 2021 at 05:00:56 PM EST
    House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said that the Congress "will establish an outside, independent commission to review the `facts and causes' related to the deadly January 6 insurrection at the U.S. Capitol by supporters of Donald Trump in the waning days of his presidency," The Guardian reports.

    Pelosi said the commission would be modeled on a similar one convened after the September 11, 2001, terrorist attack on Washington and New York.


    Witnesses (none / 0) (#25)
    by FlJoe on Mon Feb 15, 2021 at 05:05:46 PM EST
    galore I presume.

    Yes (none / 0) (#28)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Feb 15, 2021 at 05:51:54 PM EST
    and under oath too unlike the 9/11 commission.

    Steaming heap. Symbolic. Satisfying. (none / 0) (#49)
    by Peter G on Wed Feb 17, 2021 at 09:37:25 AM EST
    Demolition of the derelict Tr*mp casino & hotel building in Atlantic City this morning.

    Ashes Wednesday (5.00 / 2) (#55)
    by KeysDan on Wed Feb 17, 2021 at 11:45:44 AM EST
    Trump Casino and Rush Limbaugh.

    Ashes to ashes (none / 0) (#60)
    by Zorba on Wed Feb 17, 2021 at 12:40:36 PM EST
    And dust to dust.  If the good Lord won't have you then the devil must.

    Guess where I think Rush is headed for.


    We'll miss Rush's appeals (none / 0) (#63)
    by jondee on Wed Feb 17, 2021 at 01:08:13 PM EST
    to the best in the human spirit, like when he recently said we should adapt to the coronavirus the way the pioneers turned to cannibalism.

    Jefferson Starship (5.00 / 1) (#56)
    by ScottW714 on Wed Feb 17, 2021 at 12:00:39 PM EST
    If only you believe like I believe, baby
    (if only you believe like I believe)

    We'd get by

    If only you believe in metaphors
    (if only you believed in metaphors so would i)

    To be precise, that would be political metaphors.


    John Malkovich in... (none / 0) (#72)
    by ScottW714 on Wed Feb 17, 2021 at 03:12:02 PM EST
     ...Homage to the Photographic Masters by Sandro Miller is super cool.

    I would love to get a couple of these on a T-shirt.

    And as a noted funny, the photographer Sandro Miller list these on his curriculum vitae:

    High point: "Being born."

    Low points: "Cancer diagnosis, Trump being nominated for president, and the last four years."


    The man really is (none / 0) (#78)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Feb 17, 2021 at 04:18:31 PM EST
    A chameleon

    421 years ago (none / 0) (#73)
    by jondee on Wed Feb 17, 2021 at 03:16:36 PM EST
    on this day, Dominican friar and philosopher Giordono Bruno was stripped naked, hung upside down with his tongue clamped and burned alive in the Campo de' Fiori in Rome for writing, among other things, that the universe is infinite with no center, that the stars are distant suns with planets that engender life of their own, and for stating his belief in the transmigration of souls and reincarnation.

    At his trial he said "You pronounce your sentence with more fear than I receive it".

    Trump will try (none / 0) (#77)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Feb 17, 2021 at 04:10:22 PM EST
    to replace Rush.  We may miss Rush.

    Former President Donald Trump will appear on Sean Hannity's primetime Fox News show tonight, "just hours after breaking his media silence for the first time since leaving office," The Hill reports.

    Trump will "discuss the life and legacy of radio pioneer Rush Limbaugh."

    Trump is also scheduled to be interviewed on Newsmax tonight.

    We mustn't speak ill of the dead. (5.00 / 1) (#87)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Wed Feb 17, 2021 at 05:21:15 PM EST
    However, ...

    "All men have an emotion to kill; when they strongly dislike some one they involuntarily wish he was dead. I have never killed any one, but I have read some obituary notices with great satisfaction."
    - Clarence Darrow (1857-1938), attorney and humanitarian



    At this sad time, let us remember (none / 0) (#102)
    by Peter G on Wed Feb 17, 2021 at 08:20:31 PM EST
    Al Franken's immortal tribute to Rush.

    This time there won't (none / 0) (#79)
    by jondee on Wed Feb 17, 2021 at 04:23:21 PM EST
    be any dissenting voices, like that time when Christopher Hitchens made it on the show to discuss the legacy of Jerry Falwell. Though what he said about Falwell applies equally to Rush: "if they gave him an enema, he could be buried in a matchbox".

    I really think Donald (none / 0) (#80)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Feb 17, 2021 at 04:39:25 PM EST
    May see the death of Rush as an opportunity.

    We have a massive audience in need of an Ego to tell them what to think and we have a massive ego looking for an audience.

    Trump will probably try to do it in a visual medium.  Hes not really a radio guy.


    NY Mag (none / 0) (#86)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Feb 17, 2021 at 05:06:38 PM EST
    Jonathan Chait: "His allies have praised his talents as a radio host, and he certainly possessed undeniable talent as a vocal entertainer. Yet his show was curiously devoid of any skill at argument. I am a big believer in listening to opposing arguments and attempting to understand them. I regularly read organs like National Review, the Wall Street Journal editorial page, and many others to understand how counterparts on the right see the world (and I do the same for those to my left)."

    "Limbaugh's program was useless in this regard. He could blather for hours without going from a premise to a conclusion. His only tools for processing opposing points of view were assertion, mockery, and resentment. Limbaugh liked to call himself smart, but he was a lifelong stranger to reason. He hid this weakness with a remarkable ability to gab smoothly and seamlessly."


    Who else do we know with that skill set?


    A compassionate message from another good (none / 0) (#81)
    by MO Blue on Wed Feb 17, 2021 at 04:54:26 PM EST
    Texan Christian. The former mayor of Colorado City, Texas.

    Am I sorry that you have been dealing without electricity and water; yes! But I'll be damned if I'm going to provide for anyone that is capable of doing it themselves!" the mayor of Colorado City wrote.

    That was the mildest and least objectionable part of his post. As any good Christian, he referenced God in his tirade.

    Wow (5.00 / 1) (#90)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed Feb 17, 2021 at 06:20:39 PM EST
    I guess the new definition of "lazy" is when you pay for something expecting to get it.

    I may be mistaken, but I don't think the mayor/town provides the utilities. No?

    But Each and Every Person... (5.00 / 3) (#97)
    by ScottW714 on Wed Feb 17, 2021 at 07:34:02 PM EST
    ... in that town pays city, county, state, and federal taxes and they expect something in return, even if it's minimal like power when it's cold.  Granted the mayor doesn't provide power, but the mayor has a hell of lot more influence over the people that provide power than any individual.  He also has contacts in government that most people do not, possibly even the governor, that can help provide resources in a natural disaster.

    The notion that a mayor is helpless to help people during a national disaster is complete BS, hence the firing.  At the very least they should provide space so people don't freeze to death and have something warm to eat.  The very last thing a mayor should do in a natural disaster is get on Facebook to whine about constituents who have the nerve to want something in return for vast amounts of money they pay in various forms of tax, including dimwit's salary.

    Why anyone who hates people so much would get into government is beyond me.  But I suspect its very attractive to the idiots who think people in government get paid to do nothing.  And of course the lesson learned here by the mayor won't be that government work is hard, especially the executive branch, it will be that lazy people expect everything for nothing and when they don't get it, good people lose their jobs.


    What the residents of Colorado City wanted (5.00 / 1) (#112)
    by MO Blue on Wed Feb 17, 2021 at 09:59:16 PM EST
    Residents of the town wanted public buildings with electricity to be opened so they did not have to stay in their houses without power or heat all day, NBC News reported.

    Seems like using public buildings that had power as warming stations was a reasonable request. After all, the citizens paid for the electricity used in the public buildings and were not asking for a handout as the Mayor indicated.


    In areas where utilities are provided ... (none / 0) (#95)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Wed Feb 17, 2021 at 07:28:07 PM EST
    ... by corporations such as PG&E or Hawaiian Electric Industries, they do so under the authority of a public utilities commission or something comparable because they are often a sole-source provider.

    While California does offer some consumers some choice in their utility providers, most utilities around the country fall under the sole source category. Because they are a government-sanctioned monopoly, they have to apply for permission to increase rates, which is not always approved.

    So if the utility fails to provide or meet agreed-upon standards for whatever reason other than Mother Nature, states and municipalities do have an obligation to intervene on behalf of their constituents.

    In this case, I can't see where anyone can do much about anything until the storm's over. Then, authorities should learn and understand why the grid failed, and then compel the utilities to take whatever steps are necessary so that it doesn't occur again. But in Texas, the difference between "should" and "shall" when it comes to government ordering corporations to do something can often be a chasm.



    And people wanted the City to provide them with the utilities?

    Why did the mayor even get involved in this?


    I can't say (5.00 / 2) (#93)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed Feb 17, 2021 at 07:00:27 PM EST
    about the electricity but I do get my water here from the county and some get it from the city or town.

    My understanding is people were calling the town to complain about not having electricity. The mayor is a jerk who should have kept his mouth shut.

    Yes, they are due to the storms but Texas pulled themselves off the national grid and no one can help them. They privatized it and now these poor people are actually going to get stuck with thousands of dollars in utility bills because the people running the utilities kept all the money for themselves and did not reinvest any in the infrastructure. It's an ugly story that goes back to George W. Bush as governor in the 90's.


    Bingo (none / 0) (#104)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Wed Feb 17, 2021 at 08:27:35 PM EST
    The mayor is a jerk who should have kept his mouth shut.

    Excellent analysis of how Texas put itself (none / 0) (#105)
    by Peter G on Wed Feb 17, 2021 at 08:58:09 PM EST
    in this situation by an expert, writing in the WaPo.

    The article was (none / 0) (#125)
    by KeysDan on Thu Feb 18, 2021 at 10:38:46 AM EST
    instructive, but given the attempts by some Texas officials to invoke the green new deal as the culprit, a better balance could have been struck between the non-winterization of wind power (that accounts for about 10 per cent) and natural gas with frozen well heads and above ground pipelines (that account for about 70 per cent).  The remainder, coal and nuclear were also off line.

    Topic jump! (none / 0) (#145)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Feb 21, 2021 at 08:09:56 AM EST
    I think I remember you saying you were watching Your Honor?

    I just finished it because of the SHOWTIME free weekend.

    What did you think of the finished product?  BTW I read there could be a season 2.

    I wondered how real the behind the scenes of the courtroom were.  It seemed very believable.  But it was a great cast of actors.

    I saw a lot of complaining about the finale that I did not understand.  I liked it.  But then I was glad it was the whiney spoiled entitled emo white boy.


    Yes, (5.00 / 1) (#160)
    by KeysDan on Thu Feb 25, 2021 at 08:54:44 PM EST
    the finale was fitting.  And, about the only way it could feasibly end.  A good series.

    I've been watching Banshee (none / 0) (#161)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Feb 25, 2021 at 09:10:43 PM EST
    SO good.  I'm enjoying it just as much the second time.

    We were going (none / 0) (#162)
    by KeysDan on Thu Feb 25, 2021 at 09:55:57 PM EST
    to start Fargo as our next series, but based on your review, Banshee will.be next. The Rotten Tomatoes reviews are also very good.

    It pretty violent (none / 0) (#163)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Feb 26, 2021 at 08:29:47 AM EST
    I've read it's like a master class for stunt people who do fights.

    Lots of fights.  

    And some of the best characters ever.  My favorite badazz is Job.   Hoon Lee as what is described in series dialog as "a potty mouthed dr@g queen"


    Choreography (none / 0) (#164)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Feb 26, 2021 at 09:39:29 AM EST

    Banshee is violent and graphic and at times brutal, and that's just how Jonathan Tropper, cocreator, likes it.

    Speaking at the aTV festival, Adam Targum, executive producer, noted how carefully he and Tropper script the violence. "Unlike other television shows, something that is very important about Jonathan and I is that we script every single punch and kick and you know, every Tomahawk sploosh that goes into a shoulder and blood," he said. "A lot of shows don't do that."

    Targum also noted how the cast, which includes Antony Starr as an ex-con and master thief who becomes sheriff in Banshee, Penn., and Ivana Milicevic as a jewel thief living in Banshee under a bogus identity, does almost all of its own stunts. "People always ask me why Banshee's action scenes and fight scenes are so much better than other stuff they see and I attribute it to one thing," he said. "It's because these guys do 90% of their own stunts. We're not cutting away and hiding stunt doubles in there. When you see them up there, it is them, for the most part."

    I really like (none / 0) (#165)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Feb 26, 2021 at 09:42:21 AM EST
    the also violent The Boys.  Anthony Starr sometime looks like he was born to play Homelander but IMO he was born to play Lucas Hood.

    But maybe that just a personal thing.


    and Job (none / 0) (#166)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Feb 26, 2021 at 09:58:37 AM EST
    Sorry wrong clip (none / 0) (#167)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Feb 26, 2021 at 10:02:40 AM EST
    One more thing (none / 0) (#169)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Feb 27, 2021 at 08:47:21 PM EST
    Banshee, don't miss the after credits scenes.

    Also WandaVision (none / 0) (#168)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Feb 26, 2021 at 03:53:36 PM EST
    On Disney+ just gets better and better.  

    I didn't know what to make but of if at first.  The first episode is literally a 50s B&W sitcom.  The second a 60s sitcom.  Then going to color 70s and 80s.

    It starts off funny and quirky and sort of gets less so every week.

    You really kind of need to understand the Marvel universe.  The two main characters are Avengers and it looks like it's pretty brilliantly planned to continue the post Avengers Marvel universe.

    If you are into that sort of thing.


    From Wanda to Vision and all the players beyond, here's everyone in place for the final showdown.


    I was recording (none / 0) (#146)
    by KeysDan on Sun Feb 21, 2021 at 09:15:52 AM EST
    "Your Honor" for later binge watching.  Have now started and finished episode 3 last night.  So far, It is very good. Agree on the acting and enjoy the New Orleans backdrop.

    Early on I was less impressed (none / 0) (#147)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Feb 21, 2021 at 10:05:57 AM EST
    I thought it was what would be called "politically heavy handed".
    Which it definitely is.  But it turns out not in a partisan way.  Just very political.

    It was a great way to look at a person who justifies their wrongdoing by telling themselves some marginalized or repressed community will suffer if they lose power.

    I'm glad I didn't spoil it for you.  


    Another topic jump (5.00 / 4) (#148)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Feb 21, 2021 at 10:10:00 AM EST
    I'm finding I really like living in a world in which I don't wake up every day thinking there is some horrible unimaginable threat I need to come here and discuss with others who understand the threat.

    And makes me realize how much this blog has helped me deal with the last 4 years.

    Thanks Jeralyn


    no kidding. I second that! (5.00 / 4) (#150)
    by leap on Sun Feb 21, 2021 at 10:42:01 AM EST
    Thank you, Jeralyn. And, well, you too, Cap'n. You have always kept us on our toes with you super-reading/watching media for us, and posting here about all the atrocities from the last dreadful four years. It has taken a few weeks to decompress after all that tension, but things are looking up. OrangeAnus has been quieted, so we don't have to hear him or about him every damn hour of every damn day. Biden is gradually bringing us back with a lot of smart help. Limbaugh is cold and decaying.

    And I got my second shot on Friday!


    I agree. (5.00 / 1) (#151)
    by Ga6thDem on Sun Feb 21, 2021 at 11:41:57 AM EST
    I think it has been a slow recovery for me but the day Trump was banned from twitter made me realize how much his tweets were affecting my life. Little by little every day that goes by that I don't hear about Trump is a good one but I have to say I think the attack on the capitol has drug out hearing about Trump since he's central to a lot of the arrests and charges. The idiot sons just don't seem to have the same abilities that their dad did with social media and mostly people laugh at them.

    I will second what Leap said about you watching and keeping the rest of us informed. I unfortunately could not take watching him a whole bunch.

    Also thanks Jeralyn!!!


    One other thing about Your Honor (none / 0) (#149)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Feb 21, 2021 at 10:16:44 AM EST

    What's up with the 1 in 100 masked people?  

    I have not checked to see the shooting dates but it just seemed odd to have an occasional mask?


    Not sure how they do things in Texas (5.00 / 1) (#94)
    by MO Blue on Wed Feb 17, 2021 at 07:27:44 PM EST
    But even in Missouri,  city Mayors coordinate information on where and how to get emergency help. Cities here set up emergency warming centers, water distribution, food distribution and numbers for medical emergencies which depends on electricity and local officials like Mayors provide this information to their constituents.

    Regardless of what his duties were, telling people to deal with it or die, might not be a responsible way to respond.


    What about going on Fox News ... (none / 0) (#96)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Wed Feb 17, 2021 at 07:31:38 PM EST
    MO Blue: "Regardless of what his duties were, telling people to deal with it or die, might not be a responsible way to respond."

    ... and blaming liberals and windmills?


    I would not do well on Fox (none / 0) (#100)
    by MO Blue on Wed Feb 17, 2021 at 08:17:30 PM EST
    I have no patience with the people on Fox or their talking points that contain no facts, only lies. Two seconds into the segment, I would be calling them very colorful names

    More words from the (none / 0) (#83)
    by MO Blue on Wed Feb 17, 2021 at 05:04:48 PM EST
    former Mayor.

    If you were sitting at home in the cold because you have no power and are sitting there waiting for someone to come rescue you because your [sic] lazy is direct result of your raising! Only the strong will survive and the week [sic] will perish," he wrote.

    I saw this (none / 0) (#84)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Feb 17, 2021 at 05:05:01 PM EST
    interesting take on self help there.  

    That you should be able to make your own electricity.  Or just STFU and freeze to death.

    I think this is what Trump has done to these morons.  He has made them believe it's totally fine to just say out loud whatever vile garbage is in your head.  

    Sothe do it and they are buried in shi+.   It's like they each have to learn that only Trump can do that particular magic trick.


    Mayor Roaring AH (none / 0) (#89)
    by MO Blue on Wed Feb 17, 2021 at 06:16:08 PM EST
    is now being quoted on cable. Truly a national treasure as the face of the Republican Party.

    It has many faces (none / 0) (#98)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Feb 17, 2021 at 07:57:45 PM EST
    I like this Sen Toomey critic

    "We did not send him there to vote his conscience. We did not send him there to do the right thing or whatever he said he was doing. We sent him there to represent us," Washington County GOP Chairman Dave Ball told Pittsburgh-area CBS affiliate KDKA-TV.

    It's like a virus spreading through state houses that makes them say the quiet part out loud


    As a beloved former columnist for the (none / 0) (#99)
    by Peter G on Wed Feb 17, 2021 at 08:14:07 PM EST
    Philadelphia Inquirer used to write, "Pennsylvania, Land of Giants."

    I think of this storm as ... (none / 0) (#88)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Wed Feb 17, 2021 at 05:28:08 PM EST
    ... a reminder to these rugged individualists of what life in wintertime is really like without socialism. Of course, I'm also saying that from Hilo, Hi where it's presently 77 degrees and mostly cloudy. Therefore, this winter storm on the U.S. mainland reminds me that there's a good reason why I live out here.



    Limbaugh lower now! n/t (none / 0) (#110)
    by Repack Rider on Wed Feb 17, 2021 at 09:39:16 PM EST

    How low.. (none / 0) (#113)
    by desertswine on Wed Feb 17, 2021 at 10:59:33 PM EST
    Can you go..

    turning to dust (none / 0) (#114)
    by leap on Wed Feb 17, 2021 at 11:19:04 PM EST
    along with Trump Plaza Hotel & Casino in Atlantic City. What a great day! 2021 is looking better.

    A friend gave me a ride to the (none / 0) (#127)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Feb 18, 2021 at 12:26:45 PM EST
    drugstore and the liquor store .  We had a bet that he could not get up my driveway.  He has one of those off road high water things with giant tires.

    He could not get up my driveway.  

    He said we got officially 14 inches of snow.  That's a lot for here.

    We got your storm last night here (none / 0) (#130)
    by Peter G on Thu Feb 18, 2021 at 02:13:48 PM EST
    outside of Philly, but it only deposited four more inches.

    14 inches of snow is a lot, anywhere. (none / 0) (#137)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Thu Feb 18, 2021 at 04:06:57 PM EST
    When I was a freshman at the Univ. of Washington, I recall experiencing a major December snowstorm with about 10 inches, which brought Seattle to a near-standstill for the better part of a week. In a rural locale like yours, which has suffered such extreme weather events rather infrequently at best over the years, I can only imagine how paralyzing it's been for you and your neighbors when winter comes howling like a banshee.

    Stay safe.


    Polar (none / 0) (#138)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Feb 18, 2021 at 07:18:18 PM EST
    Vacination Rates by State (none / 0) (#129)
    by ScottW714 on Thu Feb 18, 2021 at 02:11:30 PM EST
    This is interesting, these are percentage of people fully vaccinated.  I did not include folks that have received one shot.  

    The first set is states above 5%, the second is below 4%.  Everyone else is in the 4% arena.

    Alaksa            8.5
    W Virgina        7.9
    New Mexico    6.7
    North Dakota  6.4
    Connecticut    6.2
    S Dakota       5.9
    Lousiana        5.5
    Vermont         5.5
    Colorado       5.4
    Florida          5.4
    Michigan       5.4
    Oklahoma      5.2
    Hawaii          5.0
    Maine           5.0

    Idaho           3.9
    Iowa           3.9
    Kansas         3.9
    Pennsylvania 3.9
    California      3.8
    Georgia        3.8
    Missouri       3.8
    S Carolina    3.8
    Utah           3.7
    Arizona        3.6
    Delaware     3.5
    Illinois         3.5
    Nevada      3.5
    Alabama     3.2
    DC             3.2

    No point, it is interesting and these numbers seem awfully low considering the rollout started in mid-December.  Equally interesting, no party seems to have a handle on doing it best.

    When vaccinations commenced, ... (none / 0) (#136)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Thu Feb 18, 2021 at 03:58:44 PM EST
    ... they were averaging only 700,000 per week nationwide. Since taking office five weeks ago, the Biden has ramped up that effort, to where we're now vaccinating 1.7 million people per week and climbing. but realistically, it's going to take us until later summer to vaccinate the majority of our people.

    Where the Trump administration failed so miserably was its near-complete dismissal of the concept of planning and logistics, as though one's mere statement of intent was enough to make things happen on their own. Well, wishful thinking is exactly that. And in a campaign of this size and magnitude, its planning and logistics are everything, and serve as the critical components which will determine that campaign's ultimate success or failure. Otherwise, as they say, the road to Hell is often paved with good intentions.



    Interesting story in the NYT (none / 0) (#144)
    by desertswine on Sat Feb 20, 2021 at 03:39:06 PM EST
    about Eric Prince, Libya, and even the international criminal Trump. It's a dark world out there.

    In April 2019, Mr. Hifter launched a blistering assault on the capital, Tripoli, but formidable obstacles stood in his way, including newly arrived troops from Turkey supporting the U.N.-backed government. So Mr. Hifter turned to Mr. Prince, the U.N. investigators found.

    At a meeting with Mr. Hifter in Cairo, 10 days after the start of the campaign to seize Tripoli, Mr. Prince made his pitch for the $80 million mercenary operation, the UN inspectors revealed.

    Four days later, Mr. Trump publicly endorsed Mr. Hifter, reversing American policy towards Libya and supporting the assault on Tripoli.

    Apparently, American foreign policy was dependent on where Trump's personal interests were lying.

    This weekend (none / 0) (#152)
    by Ga6thDem on Sun Feb 21, 2021 at 11:43:10 AM EST
    I binged the Netflix series Emily in Paris. It is written by Darren Star of Sex in the City fame. I could see some of the same themes but overall I really enjoyed watching it and hope they have a second season.

    Stunning video of the (none / 0) (#157)
    by desertswine on Mon Feb 22, 2021 at 03:08:49 PM EST
    Perseverance landing on Mars on the BBC website.