KellyAnne and George Take a Break to Parent

KellyAnne Conway is leaving her job working for Donald Trump to attend to her children, one of whom announced on TikTok this weekend that she would be seeking early emancipation. The daughter cannot stand that her mother works for Donald Trump. But she says her father, for different reasons, is no better. Her father, George Conway, announced he will be stepping down from the Lincoln Project and from Twitter. [More...]

From a history standpoint, I think George is the more significant half of the couple, for his ghosting work on the Paula Jones case (along with his "elves" at the time, AC (the woman-who-shall-not-be-named-here) and Laura Ingraham.

I saw one of Claudia's TikTok videos a few months ago and she seemed as needy for attention as her mother, whose views she repeatedly mocks. (At other times, she expresses profound love and respect for both). "“My mother’s job ruined my life to begin with,” she wrote."" It seems to me that they are both attention seekers and clearly cut from the same cloth. But she can dance.

And she warns against making her father a star, accurately pointing out he's just another conservative. Today the child complains her parents didn't tell the kids they were quitting/stepping down before they tweeted it.

Claudia reacts today by claiming her father physically abused her a lot "in this very room". She's talking to some pro bono lawyers, and she gives out her venmo address for people to send money. She also says her parents had been talking about divorce and were going to finalize it.

Have fun, Kellyanne and George. Claudia is 15 now, she'll be 16 in October, she says her mother has been gone for four years while she worked for Trump. She says she has all these issues because of what her parents have done to her. Her mental health is at an all point low. She says her parents should not have been allowed to have children. She thinks her mother is a sociopath. She complains her mother got her arrested.

Claudia says her 10 and 12 year old sisters' know nothing about this. She intends to keep pushing for emancipation.

This family lives in an $8 million home in Washington, having moved there from New Jersey after her mother began to work to Trump. At the start of Trump's term, they disclosed assets of between $10 and $39 million.

I think Claudia, like her mother, lives in a world of "alternative facts." She sounds savvy enough to know her claims of physical abuse are likely to cause a visit from social services, so you have to wonder, what's up with those?

I think Claudia's biggest talent is dancing.

In 2004, I was asked to guest-post at a conservative blog while its host was away. I had just watched a debate with Dick Cheney. Here's what I wrote:

I was watching Dick Cheney and trying to picture what it would have been like to grow up with him as my father. I mean, forget about what he was saying, just his visage and demeanor. He was so stern looking. And his tone was so authoritarian. ...

...So here’s my mental picture of me at 15, as a daughter of Cheney: I’m a runaway, standing at the downtown Port Authority. I’ve got a tattoo on my ass, a needle in my arm, a cigarette dangling from my lip, and I’m just waiting for the next Midnight Cowboy to roll off the bus. Sorry, but politics aside, doesn’t the guy just give you the creeps?

Even the thought of Dick Cheney still gives me the creeps. But that's also the path I could see Claudia Conway headed down, except for her talent as a dancer and her ability to draw a crowd. Maybe she could jump start her career by presenting an award at the upcoming MTV Music Video Awards on August 30. (p.s. Watch the dance video soon as I'm sure her parents will make her delete it. She's done several of these, but most have already been zapped.)

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    She is 15 years old, Jeralyn! (5.00 / 1) (#1)
    by vml68 on Mon Aug 24, 2020 at 04:24:35 PM EST
    It seems to me that they are both attention seekers and clearly cut from the same cloth.

    I cannot imagine what it must be like to have your parents constantly at odds with each other and having it all play out in public, on a national stage, to boot. The teenage years are hard enough without having to deal with that cr@p on top of it. I feel sorry for her.
    As for her "dancing", if she were my daughter, we would be having a serious talk about that.

    The whole thing seems (5.00 / 1) (#2)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Aug 24, 2020 at 04:41:49 PM EST
    Kind of human to me.  Unlike, for example, the famous couple of Carville/Matalin.  I never bought that.  To me it seemed they were both just playing a part.  That always galled me.  Like they thought it was a game.

    I can totally believe that the disparity of "belief" on display here could tear a real relationship apart.  I feel for them.  And as much as I dislike her good for Kellyann for stepping away.  The statement I saw from Conway seemed real enough.  

    I also pity the poor kid.


    Sounds (none / 0) (#9)
    by FlJoe on Mon Aug 24, 2020 at 05:45:54 PM EST
    almost too "human" to me.  Maybe Kellyanne is jumping ship before it sinks, and this family crisis
    is the perfect excuse.

    You guys (5.00 / 1) (#10)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Aug 24, 2020 at 05:50:03 PM EST
    Make me feel better about my level of cynicism

    The poor kid has been posting (none / 0) (#20)
    by Towanda on Tue Aug 25, 2020 at 05:55:12 PM EST
    about her unhappiness for months, while her parents ignored it.  Why do they care now? Only her threat of legal action?

    Nice to see you (5.00 / 1) (#3)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Aug 24, 2020 at 04:49:15 PM EST

    Yes, a sad family (5.00 / 1) (#7)
    by KeysDan on Mon Aug 24, 2020 at 05:23:11 PM EST
    situation made all the more so by the teen daughter publicly calling out her need for help.  The parents stepping back from their prominent positions recognizes the serious need to re-order priorities.

    That having been said, I have long been skeptical of the Conway's political odd coupling.

    (Good to hear from you, vml68.  Hope you and family are all well).


    Doesn't this make you (5.00 / 1) (#8)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Aug 24, 2020 at 05:24:55 PM EST
    A bit less skeptical

    Seriously.  Who would do this unless it was real.


    Thanks KeysDan and Capt. (5.00 / 3) (#15)
    by vml68 on Mon Aug 24, 2020 at 09:56:50 PM EST
    Needed a break from politics. Just couldn't bear to hear or read one more thing about Tr*mp and was depressed and worried when Joe became the nominee. Tuned out everything and spent most of my time gardening.
    Husband is fine, still a workaholic even though working from home. Parents were supposed to be back in the US in May but are still overseas due to lockdown.

    Feeling a lot more hopeful now that Kamala is VP nominee.

    Sorry for the OT, Jeralyn.


    Also (none / 0) (#4)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Aug 24, 2020 at 05:01:31 PM EST
    As far as George being just another conservative, he was a founding member of the Lincoln Project.  They have done as much as anyone and way more than most to take Trump down..  

    So credit where it's due IMO.

    beware of the Lincoln Project (none / 0) (#11)
    by Jeralyn on Mon Aug 24, 2020 at 08:35:00 PM EST
    You have to be kidding, praising the Lincoln Project. They are just a conservative attempt to put the neocons back in power. Even Dick Cheney has joined. Steve Schmidt worked for McCain and is responsible for giving us Sarah Palin. Look at the other founders. They may be helping to take Trump down, but it's just to reclaim power for a different and equally dangerous set of conservatives. As for George Conway: He takes pride in having ghosted the briefs in the Paula Jones case, along with his "elves" AC (who will not be named on this site), Jerome Marcus and Laura Ingraham. He guided Linda Tripp to a lawyer when she came forward about Monica Lewinsky. When Jones and Clinton seemed like they might settle, he began leaking to media (particularly Matt Drudge), including Jones' anatomical details about Clinton's private parts. (He denies leaking some things to Drudge.)

    Steve Schmidt has a terrific way with words against Donald Trump on his Twitter feed and for the Lincoln Project, but make no mistake, if you are a Democrat, they are not your friends.


    "The enemy of my enemy (none / 0) (#14)
    by Chuck0 on Mon Aug 24, 2020 at 09:31:38 PM EST
    is my friend." A quote I believe from Churchill. Yes, yes, I know, he was a racist and a colonialist. However, in the current time, the quote is apropos.

    Orange doofus is an existential threat to the future of the republic. The Lincoln Project is not. They would probably morph into the loyal opposition.


    Billy Graham's grand daughter (none / 0) (#16)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Aug 24, 2020 at 10:03:49 PM EST
    It took a while (none / 0) (#17)
    by MKS on Tue Aug 25, 2020 at 02:43:10 PM EST
    but I think I know who "AC" is.

    And, the never Trumpers will be a problem post Trump.   But we were allies with Stalin in WWII too.


    I think it depends (none / 0) (#18)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue Aug 25, 2020 at 03:18:50 PM EST
    on which one. A few of them truly seem to have had a change of heart while others IMO are the conservative version of the Bernie Bro that just wants to blow the party up and come in and collect the ashes.

    Agreed. The Lincoln Project (none / 0) (#19)
    by Towanda on Tue Aug 25, 2020 at 05:51:42 PM EST
    supports downticket Republicans. Supporting Biden but not change in the Senate. We need change in the Senate to reverse the horrors of the Trump administration.

    Hmm... to be fair (5.00 / 1) (#21)
    by MO Blue on Tue Aug 25, 2020 at 06:38:34 PM EST
    Why are Bush, Cheney and (5.00 / 1) (#22)
    by Jeralyn on Tue Aug 25, 2020 at 07:46:01 PM EST
    the former neocons members? You think they will be content to rid their party of Trump? No, they intend to march the country backwards, and will be the first to try and silence liberals and progressives once Trump is gone. David Sirota in early July:

    Everyone realizes the entire Lincoln Project/Never Trump GOP stuff is all designed to make sure that after Trump loses, America is owned by Bush/Cheney Republicans and Wall St Dems, while progressives are cancelled...right?
    Everyone gets that, right? Just checking.

    From a Jacobin article by Ari Rabin-Havt:

    What's more, these Never Trumpers are media savvy enough to inflate their importance and insert themselves into the policy formulations of the Joe Biden administration. They will insist their support was critical to victory in 2020 and will therefore hold it above any attempt by the Biden White House to produce progressive policy as a threat as Democrats look toward 2024. It will become a centrist excuse for inaction and worse on crucial issues.

    Leftists understand that Mitt Romney, Jonah Goldberg, and the Lincoln Project are our ideological enemies. It's time liberals do the same.

    And seriously, how can you trust the man whose idea it was for John McCain to put Sarah Palin on the ticket?


    They are members (5.00 / 2) (#23)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Aug 25, 2020 at 08:42:13 PM EST
    Because they want to defeat Trump.  I'm not sure why thinking that is a good thing seems so difficult to understand.

    No one wants to marry them.  They are against Trump.  Like almost everyone here they have said they will vote for Biden.

    They are republicans.  Newsflash.  They will be on the other side after Trump.  News flash.

    For some of us beating Trump is important enough to hold off the grievance politics until after the election.

    And to be clear they are very much for helping democratic senators as a little investigation shows.  That's was MOs point.

    But even if they were not, so what,  I'll take beating Trump if that was the only goal.


    Do I think that they will be content (5.00 / 2) (#24)
    by MO Blue on Tue Aug 25, 2020 at 08:52:27 PM EST
    to just get rid of Trump? No, I don't.

    My comment had everything to do with being factual and nothing to do with strongly supporting the people behind the Lincoln Project.

    I am more than willing to let them run ads against Trump and his enablers and hope they are successful in helping rid us of them. I am against them dictating policy to the Democratic Party and am not for the establishment Dems spinning their wheels and bending over backwards to court Republicans rather than appealing to independents and exciting left leaning people to get them to the polls.

    IMO the Biden administration would use and promote the idea that they need to be a moderate party to stay in power and would use that as an excuse not to pursue progressive policies even if the Lincoln Project did not exist. The Dems in power promoted this idea after our wins in 2006, after Obama's wins, and after the Dems wins in 2018. I, personally believe that they will revert to their SOP and use the the deficit and bipartisanship as the excuse to play "small ball" and help rehabilitate the Republicans so that we will see a repeat of the Dem losses of 2010 and 2012. You can see echoes of that already in Biden's choice of people around him and stories like these:

    Battle looms over Biden health care plan if Democrats win big

    "When we get in, the pantry is going to be bare," said Mr. Kaufman, who is leading Mr. Biden's transition team. "When you see what Trump's done to the deficit...forget about Covid-19, all the deficits that he built with the incredible tax cuts. So we're going to be limited."


    It all depends on (5.00 / 1) (#29)
    by MKS on Tue Aug 25, 2020 at 10:38:50 PM EST
    how many votes you have in the Senate for the big ideas.

    Evidently (5.00 / 1) (#30)
    by MO Blue on Wed Aug 26, 2020 at 02:19:57 AM EST
    60 weren't enough to go beyond "small ball" in the past when the Dems decided that austerity and bipartisanship was the way to go. Hopefully, history will not repeat itself.

    They have already been taking about (none / 0) (#32)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Aug 26, 2020 at 09:49:49 AM EST
    Killing the filibuster so 51 will be enough.

    538 (none / 0) (#33)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Aug 26, 2020 at 10:04:30 AM EST
    Liberal advocates told me they'll cross that bridge when they come to it -- for now, they want to make sure the issue continues to pick up steam in the primary. Their pitch to politicians and voters is that a policy like the Green New Deal is just too important to be defeated by worries about changing Senate procedure. "I get the concerns about the Democrats losing their voice when they're in the minority," said Aaron Belkin, a political science professor at San Francisco State University and progressive activist. "But you have to weigh that against the cost of not acting in response to impending planetary disaster."

    And in the long term, most of the experts I spoke with said the filibuster's days are probably numbered. "Eventually, one of the parties is going to get control of Congress and the White House and want to actually enact the policies they ran on," Chafetz said. "When that happens, the filibuster is toast."

    The multiple disasters facing us will be the reason this happens IMO.  or will certainly be used as a reason.



    People keep talking about (none / 0) (#25)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Aug 25, 2020 at 08:59:44 PM EST
    The war for the Republican Party after Trump.  There will be one.

    There is also going to be a war for the Democratic Party.  The nomination of Biden virtually assures it.  I did not want him to be the nominee.  But here we are.   He is the nominee.  

    I personally feel pretty good about the chances the progressive forces will win.  But it might take replacing Biden in 4 years.  And I understand why you would not be particularly confident of that.

    Whatever.  That's the next problem.  There is a bigger issue we have to deal with first.  


    I do think (none / 0) (#26)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Aug 25, 2020 at 09:08:00 PM EST
    Biden sincerely sees himself as a transitional figure.  I would almost bet he won't run again.  

    And. Think it's possibly true, as i and probably you have read,  that he's been telling people he wants to be the most progressive president since Roosevelt.  


    I agree (none / 0) (#27)
    by MO Blue on Tue Aug 25, 2020 at 09:27:18 PM EST
    Our most important issue right now is getting rid of Trump and regaining the majority of the Senate.

    I hope you are right and that progressive policies will prevail and Biden actually does want to be the most progressive president since FDR. The party has the opportunity to remain in power for some time to come if they pursue bold policies that positively impact people's lives. OTOH, Pursuing austerity, small ball policies will result in the rehabilitation of the Republican Party and the chance we will wind up with a smart, competent Trump in the near future.


    Oddly (none / 0) (#28)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Aug 25, 2020 at 09:30:50 PM EST
    I think the absolute multi front disaster Trump will leave behind almost makes small ball impossible.

    It's going to take large ball to save us.  Very large ball.


    I think (none / 0) (#31)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed Aug 26, 2020 at 09:32:19 AM EST
    healthcare is probably not going to be done on a big scale simply because it is a losing issue. The addition of a public option never has made sense to me when you could just open up Medicare.

    Healthcare a losing issue? (5.00 / 1) (#34)
    by MO Blue on Wed Aug 26, 2020 at 12:58:12 PM EST
    Voters have listed healthcare as one of their top priorities for quite a while now. Due to the pandemic, many people have lost their employer sponsored healthcare so I expect it to become a top priority to even more people.


    The Dems leaving the status quo in place is IMO a losing issue after all their promises to improve the system.

    The so called public option is the Lucy and the football scenario the Dems keep conning people with. Democratic voters continue to be Charlie Brown on this issue.


    Yeah (none / 0) (#35)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed Aug 26, 2020 at 02:02:19 PM EST
    they list healthcare as a problem but the solution they don't ever seem to like and whenever a solution is put forth they punish the people that voted for the solution.

    And you're assuming that the people that rate it as important agree with your solution. I find when it comes to healthcare there is a lot of magical thinking going on. A conservative friend of mine would rate it as a problem but he says the problem is too much government involvement in healthcare is the problem. He thinks the solution should be to hand healthcare over to the free market. So the Gallup poll doesn't really tell us anything other than people are concerned about the issue. It would be great if they put forth a few solutions in their poll and see how they polled.


    I'm not assuming anything (5.00 / 1) (#36)
    by MO Blue on Wed Aug 26, 2020 at 05:35:07 PM EST
    Other than people would like affordable healthcare. Seriously doubt your conservative friend is is a Democratic voter, and a Democratic program need not be tailored to your friend's criteria.

    Also, it is not an assumption that the free market has not provided affordable healthcare. In fact, prior to the ACA, care was missing in a large number of cases. Death by spreadsheet was a normal occurrence.


    I don't know how he is voting (none / 0) (#37)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed Aug 26, 2020 at 06:58:12 PM EST
    I was just using his statements in that concern about healthcare can mean about 50 different things.He would be one of the 35%. Issues with healthcare run across the board. The friction comes with the proposed solutions.

    I have pointed out to him that with free market healthcare your health record is a commodity. The biggest problem we have is costs. I'm not sure what the solution is to that.


    First Let's Increase Taxes (none / 0) (#38)
    by RickyJim on Wed Aug 26, 2020 at 07:18:11 PM EST
    On corporations and the wealthy to get the debt problem under control.  When that happens, we can bring up Universal Healthcare as something to do that is better than a tax cut.

    No, no, not "let's increase taxes" (5.00 / 4) (#39)
    by Peter G on Wed Aug 26, 2020 at 09:10:53 PM EST
    Let's "undo the disastrous and deficit-busting Tr*mp-Republican tax cuts."

    Why is it we never worry (5.00 / 2) (#41)
    by MO Blue on Thu Aug 27, 2020 at 04:02:15 PM EST
    about getting the debt under control when the Republicans are in power and they give huge tax breaks to corporations and those who already obscenely wealthy?

    We have waited for the corporations and the wealthy to be taxed prior to giving people the things they need to survive...affordable healthcare, affordable housing, affordable child care and decent wages. The mantra let's get the debt under control first is a con job that makes promises for things that benefit real people that never materialize.


    I credit George Conway, a staunch (none / 0) (#5)
    by oculus on Mon Aug 24, 2020 at 05:18:01 PM EST
    member of the Federalist Society, with facilitating nomination of unqualified federal judges.

    If he was a liberal (none / 0) (#6)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Aug 24, 2020 at 05:22:29 PM EST
    His being a never Trumper would not be very interesting.

    he is not interesting now (none / 0) (#12)
    by Jeralyn on Mon Aug 24, 2020 at 08:47:17 PM EST
    I also don't find him insightful. Aside from his marriage, I find nothing interesting about him except how he earned so much money at his law firm. (Or if he in fact made it from his law firm). Kellyanne Fitzpatrick was a less than mediocre media pundit before she got married.  She whined. ("I want MY president to be moral", she said on one live show we were both on in Los Angeles during the Clinton age (as was AC who brought Matt Drudge along for company -- he sat in the audience and was the only nice one in the bunch as I recall.) The next I heard of her she was Trump's campaign manager, after Paul Manafort  resigned and she abandoned Ted Cruz.  Their daughter Claudia (and by implication, their parenting skills or lack thereof) is the most interesting thing about either one of them.

    I'm not going to miss (none / 0) (#40)
    by desertswine on Wed Aug 26, 2020 at 10:46:15 PM EST
    KellyAnne's lying face.