Sunday Open Thread: Post-Holiday Edition

I didn't celebrate the Fourth of July this year. Between the coronavirus and Donald Trump's incompetence, laziness and inability to express a truthful statement, on any topic, America can no longer say it is the leader of the free world. The day he was given a desk in the oval office, he became the laughing stock of the world. Since then, he's done nothing but drag us all down with him.

Today is another day. I am not going to worry about where Donald Trump and his under-informed, marginalized base are leading us. [More...]

On an unrelated topic, I've gotten so fed-up with Firefox and Chrome, that I decided to give Opera a try. Wow. It is light years better than the other two. You can import all your bookmarks, favorites etc. and it blocks ads automatically, no need for an extension. It also has a setting to stop video from playing automatically (and it works). Best of all, like the others, it's free.

On TV: Nothing to watch but the news and season two of Enimigo Intimo on Telmundo. 9pm MT, Monday through Friday. And reruns of House Hunters International. Mexico and Colombia (Medellin) are still looking good, Costa Rica, Panama and Ecuador not so much.

This is an open thread, all topics welcome. If you did something fun this weekend, please share.

Stay safe everyone, please keep those masks on (especially in communal spaces of apartments and office buildings, and their elevators) and think about who you are not infecting by doing so.

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    ..much as he was at three years old. (5.00 / 1) (#26)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Jul 06, 2020 at 11:09:25 AM EST
    Simon & Schuster announced it is moving up the publication date of Mary Trump's book by two weeks, citing "high demand and extraordinary interest."

    They also released the back cover, which includes this nugget: "Today, Donald is much as he was at three years old: incapable of growing, learning, or evolving, unable to regulate his emotions, moderate his responses, or take in and synthesize information."

    links at the link

    Mary Has a PHD in Psychology (none / 0) (#30)
    by RickyJim on Mon Jul 06, 2020 at 12:21:11 PM EST
    but unlike many such professionals that have tried to analyze politicians they have never met, she certainly knows her subject personally.

    Wow (none / 0) (#38)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Jul 06, 2020 at 02:08:31 PM EST
    It's so good to hear somebody finally say in print what a lot of people have put in cartoons that Trump is basically still a toddler.

    Ya gotta (5.00 / 2) (#43)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Jul 06, 2020 at 06:09:58 PM EST
    love all those conservatives who say government is the problem and government spending is the problem taking money from the government like Grover Norquist and Ayn Rand Institute.

    But you gotta hate the fact that the Trump grifters were scamming again.

    We were just talking about this (5.00 / 1) (#71)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jul 07, 2020 at 06:03:49 PM EST
    The A-Hole Club for the Newly Unemployed (5.00 / 1) (#84)
    by MO Blue on Tue Jul 07, 2020 at 09:02:26 PM EST
    The number of unleashed "racists and mask haters" are quickly joining the ranks of the unemployed. Daily videos of their uncivilized actions are appearing on social media and as a result they are rapidly being fired from their jobs.

    Evidently they now believe that Trump has given them permission to publicly act upon their racist, antisocial and often violent beliefs only to discover that the majority of society strongly disapproves of their behavior. They are finding out that their employers do not want them to become the poster child for their companies and are firing them once advised of their actions.

    You can't cure stupid but you don't have to employ them.

    The two important things I have learned (5.00 / 1) (#99)
    by Chuck0 on Wed Jul 08, 2020 at 09:07:30 AM EST
    during this pandemic:

    1. Bigfoot's name is Darryl.
    2. A large population of the US are complete a$$holes.

    Just wear the frick'n mask!

    This is one of my favorites (none / 0) (#86)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jul 07, 2020 at 09:17:46 PM EST
    I had just read about that man (none / 0) (#88)
    by MO Blue on Tue Jul 07, 2020 at 10:06:09 PM EST
    Right before I posted my comment. He was employed by an insurance agency and now belongs to the Unemployed A-Hole Club. Seems he absolutely does not represent their values.

    He will have more time to Run the World from the unemployment line.


    Ruling (none / 0) (#93)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed Jul 08, 2020 at 05:48:55 AM EST
    the country since 1776 says it all.

    Ruling the world (5.00 / 1) (#94)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Jul 08, 2020 at 06:31:06 AM EST
    Ruling the world (5.00 / 1) (#103)
    by jondee on Wed Jul 08, 2020 at 10:02:35 AM EST
    the guy should start thinking smaller and figure out how to rule himself.

    He's acting like he attended a conflict deescalation seminar taught by George Zimmerman.


    Lt. Col. Vindman to retire from US Army. (5.00 / 1) (#104)
    by Chuck0 on Wed Jul 08, 2020 at 10:30:01 AM EST
    Cites a "campaign of bullying, intimidation, and retaliation" from the White House for doing so.

    Thank you for your service.

    Hopefully Sen. Duckworth can maneuver it (5.00 / 5) (#106)
    by Peter G on Wed Jul 08, 2020 at 10:32:16 AM EST
    so Vindman can retire with (rather than prior to receiving) the promotion he has earned.

    Lincoln P - Learn. Their. Names. (5.00 / 1) (#115)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Jul 08, 2020 at 03:51:18 PM EST
    I wish (none / 0) (#120)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed Jul 08, 2020 at 05:22:47 PM EST
    our senate candidate would take a page from that ad and make it about allegiance to Trump over Georgia but alas he is just talking about the coronavirus issue which while being an issue really is running against the incompetence of Kemp not Perdue.

    They can't bail fast enough (5.00 / 1) (#119)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Jul 08, 2020 at 04:36:19 PM EST
    At a moment when he needs to calm restive Republicans, Trump may antagonize them further by commuting Roger Stone's 40-month sentence. According to sources, Trump has told people he wants to commute Stone's sentence before Stone reports to prison on July 14. Rumors swirled over the weekend that Trump would announce it on Sunday night. Sources say the West Wing is at war over a possible Stone commutation. White House counsel Pat Cipollone is against the move, and even Attorney General Bill Barr is opposed. "Barr has told Trump not to do it, and if he does there will be a mutiny at DOJ,"

    Vanity Fair

    The next thing

    A commutation now, perhaps, (5.00 / 1) (#129)
    by Peter G on Wed Jul 08, 2020 at 07:31:24 PM EST
    just to keep him out of prison, and then a pardon on January 20, 2021.

    Masks required at Walmart (5.00 / 1) (#150)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Jul 15, 2020 at 07:52:10 PM EST
    starting Monday

    It's about time.

    Funny how quickly it becomes non abstract (5.00 / 3) (#151)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jul 16, 2020 at 07:30:30 AM EST
    I just learned my favorite, and only living, Aunt has Covid and is probably going to die suffering.  They live in Sonoma north of SF.

    I debated including any of the email because it's so personal but I don't think my cousin would mind.  It so perfectly captures the horrible decisions people are being forced to make.  They took her out of extended care for safety and she had some issue and had to return.  I will let my cousin tell..

    She was in the rehab center getting physical therapy to improve her walking abilities.  She was getting to the point that she could come home.  I scheduled for her to come home Saturday (July 4) but then she said that her bladder infection was getting worse so I postponed the move home until the following week.  On Monday the first case of Covid 19 was found in a worker that didn't have direct contact with the clients.  They told me that she couldn't come home by order of Sonoma County Public Health office.  Then by Wednesday they said she could come home if I kept her in quarantine.  I scheduled her for Friday and that day they had a health care worker test positive and by Monday mom was feeling sick.  Today I was told she has a positive covid 19 test.  She has a lot of medical issues and she is 93.

    Stay home.  Stay safe.

    Sad and frightening story. (none / 0) (#152)
    by Peter G on Thu Jul 16, 2020 at 11:11:22 AM EST
    Thanks for sharing. My heart goes out to your family.

    I second (none / 0) (#156)
    by Ga6thDem on Thu Jul 16, 2020 at 01:51:57 PM EST
    what Peter said. I'm really sorry for both you and your family. Fortunately nobody in my family has been hit yet but we're all in hot spots now.

    Sorry about your governor (none / 0) (#164)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jul 16, 2020 at 04:01:19 PM EST
    Mine finally broke down.

    Governor Asa Hutchinson announced he would issue a mask mandate in Arkansas, effective next Monday, at his daily press conference on Thursday.

    The interesting thing about that is it is coincidentally the exact same day Walmart (the beating business heart of the state) already announced they would require masks.

    I was planning to go to Walmart on Mon and hang out to see how they would deal with refusniks

    I was expecting a show.  Asa steps  in and has their back.  Gonna be way easier to force them now.

    And some WILL have to be forced.

    Oh well.  Good for Walmart.


    I have (none / 0) (#172)
    by Ga6thDem on Thu Jul 16, 2020 at 06:23:22 PM EST
    asked is Kemp going to tell Walmart that they can't require masks.

    The situation we have is similar to what the entire country has. Those of us who didn't vote for him and in the case of the country it's the majority still have to suffer. Maybe there's a silver lining in the fact that those that voted for Kemp have learned a lesson.


    Amazing (none / 0) (#170)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jul 16, 2020 at 06:03:52 PM EST

    Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp's (R) administration "went to court Thursday seeking to block Atlanta from enacting coronavirus restrictions and requiring residents to wear masks, setting up a legal showdown between the state and local governments over efforts to contain the disease," the Atlanta Journal Constitution reports.

    This is the (none / 0) (#173)
    by Ga6thDem on Thu Jul 16, 2020 at 06:26:30 PM EST
    first I have heard of this. WTF is wrong with him. Does he not realize that wearing masks is going to help the economy come back?

    Very, very sorry to hear this. (none / 0) (#157)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Thu Jul 16, 2020 at 02:06:51 PM EST
    So very sorry, Howdy (none / 0) (#158)
    by Zorba on Thu Jul 16, 2020 at 02:13:09 PM EST
    So sad.  Virtual hugs to you and your cousin, and all her loved ones.

    Thanks to all (5.00 / 1) (#159)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jul 16, 2020 at 02:50:02 PM EST
    She is a pretty sharp 93.  I actually talk to her from time to time.  Not as much as I should have.  I guess.  Probably more since the pandemic than before.  I spent a lot of time with them when I lived in CA.

    She was always my favorite.  A die hard democrat all her life.


    So Sorry Capt. (none / 0) (#171)
    by MO Blue on Thu Jul 16, 2020 at 06:09:49 PM EST
    to hear about your aunt.

    This virus is so rough on the elderly in so many ways. Not only the higher risk but many times the isolation and inability to continue the activities that kept them active and alert are deferment all to their well-being.

    We have some dancers well into their 90s, 2 are 98, that maintained their well-being through this exercise and social interaction. Not sure how this is negatively effecting them even if they don't actually catch the virus.


    I'm so sorry Cap'n (none / 0) (#176)
    by leap on Thu Jul 16, 2020 at 07:37:20 PM EST
    What an awful predicament, the options dreadful. Let's hope your aunt can overcome.

    The Roberts Court can sometimes seem (5.00 / 3) (#165)
    by Peter G on Thu Jul 16, 2020 at 04:27:22 PM EST
    to be even-handed and above the fray. But the ultra-conservative majority (Roberts definitely included) is always on board to do what they can to support partisan (Republican) voter suppression.

    Justice delayed, justice denied. (5.00 / 3) (#169)
    by KeysDan on Thu Jul 16, 2020 at 05:27:43 PM EST
    The state voters approved a Constitutional amendment in 2018 giving felons the right to vote. Why keep the stay in effect?  Now no vote in the primary without paying fines , fees, and restitution as the state requires. Yet, many cannot get from the state information on who to pay and how much.  As Justices Sotomayor, Ginsburg and Kagan indicated in their statement to vacate the 11th Circuit stay, this is a "pay to vote scheme."  (where was Justice Breyer?).

    First of all (none / 0) (#195)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Fri Jul 17, 2020 at 12:40:46 PM EST
    I am shocked that the citizens of FL would vote for this type of amendment. I guess FL is not quite as backassward as I thought.

    Secondly, though, this is the actual amended article:

    The measure amended Section 4 of Article VI of the Florida Constitution. The following underlined text was added:

    Article VI, Section 4. Disqualifications.--

    (a) No person convicted of a felony, or adjudicated in this or any other state to be mentally incompetent, shall be qualified to vote or hold office until restoration of civil rights or removal of disability. Except as provided in subsection (b) of this section, any disqualification from voting arising from a felony conviction shall terminate and voting rights shall be restored upon completion of all terms of sentence including parole or probation.

    (b) No person convicted of murder or a felony sexual offense shall be qualified to vote until restoration of civil rights.

    (c) No person may appear on the ballot for re-election to any of the following offices:

        (1) Florida representative,
        (2) Florida senator,
        (3) Florida Lieutenant governor,
        (4) any office of the Florida cabinet,
        (5) U.S. Representative from Florida, or
        (6) U.S. Senator from Florida

    if, by the end of the current term of office, the person will have served (or, but for resignation, would have served) in that office for eight consecutive years.[15]

    (Although I rather expect that my following simplification to be determined unacceptable) I believe the court said felons need to pay the fees/fines/etc that they incurred by the process of being found guilty of their felony before their voting rights can be restored.

    voting rights shall be restored upon completion of all terms of sentence

    Would not the fees/fines/etc be included in "all terms of sentence"?


    That's the rear-guard argument (5.00 / 1) (#196)
    by Peter G on Fri Jul 17, 2020 at 01:22:16 PM EST
    that the reactionaries are making, yes. The question is whether that is a correct interpretation of the new state constitutional provision (the addition of "including parole or probation" creates ambiguity rather than clarification of the intended scope of the rest of the language), and even if it is, whether imposing a financial restriction on the right to vote constitutes a denial of equal protection or the imposition of a poll tax in violation of the federal Constitution (which would invalidate your interpretation).

    Gotcha. (none / 0) (#197)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Fri Jul 17, 2020 at 01:36:14 PM EST
    If the fees/fines/etc are determined to be 1) part of/included in "all terms of sentence" but also 2) illegal/unconstitutional, would then the amendment be illegal/unconstitutional?

    Florida does not have (none / 0) (#198)
    by KeysDan on Fri Jul 17, 2020 at 01:45:36 PM EST
    a central list of fees and fines. This meant that ex-felons seeking to register if they thought they had no fines would be risking committing a new felony if they guessed wrong. The state is unable to inform as to the amount of any fines or fees and to whom to pay them.

    The trial court found this a due process violation. And, of course, there is the argument that is a poll tax on the indigent.


    Great story (5.00 / 3) (#181)
    by MO Blue on Thu Jul 16, 2020 at 09:49:51 PM EST














     It broke the place up.    


    That story screamed out "check Snopes" (5.00 / 1) (#185)
    by Peter G on Fri Jul 17, 2020 at 09:42:40 AM EST
    to me.  And whaddaya know? Debunked as false in 1998, and yet still circulating on the always-accurate Internet. (The all-caps format was another helpful clue.)

    Thanks for fact checking (5.00 / 1) (#192)
    by MO Blue on Fri Jul 17, 2020 at 11:35:22 AM EST
    Regardless, it was a fun story and made me laugh.

    Good to know (none / 0) (#186)
    by Yman on Fri Jul 17, 2020 at 10:24:41 AM EST
    But, damn ...

    ... that was a good story.


    I (5.00 / 2) (#194)
    by FlJoe on Fri Jul 17, 2020 at 12:14:42 PM EST
    find this terrifying
    Federal personnel without clear identification have been snatching people off the street in Portland, Oregon.

    Looks like the gestapo is back... (none / 0) (#199)
    by desertswine on Fri Jul 17, 2020 at 03:10:16 PM EST
    Is this a preview of things to come?

    Totally suspected (none / 0) (#1)
    by Abdul Abulbul Amir on Sun Jul 05, 2020 at 03:48:37 PM EST
    You'd think those orange-haired (5.00 / 1) (#2)
    by jondee on Sun Jul 05, 2020 at 03:54:41 PM EST
    types and others who wrap themselves in the flag when it's convenient, would be prioritizing "our veterans" receiving optimal care at all times.

    Even if it means not cutting dreaded "big government programs".


    The VA has been like this for decades (none / 0) (#5)
    by Abdul Abulbul Amir on Sun Jul 05, 2020 at 06:04:15 PM EST
    Administrations come and go but awful at the VA goes on and on.

    Thank you for pointing out (5.00 / 1) (#3)
    by Chuck0 on Sun Jul 05, 2020 at 04:39:13 PM EST
    the shortages of housekeeping staff.

    An interesting blame (none / 0) (#24)
    by Abdul Abulbul Amir on Mon Jul 06, 2020 at 10:04:09 AM EST

    A hidebound organization facing a cleaning worker shortage can't simply contract with the numerous cleaning services.  Flexibility and government don't mix with rare exception.

    Disappearing Act. (none / 0) (#4)
    by KeysDan on Sun Jul 05, 2020 at 04:55:35 PM EST
    I am old enough to remember Putin's murder-for-hire of American soldiers in Afghanistan. The media has slowed down on that reporting, although with the fire hose of Trump scandals it is not difficult for any one to be drowned out. Or, the media is still working on a "both sides" to this one.

     Maybe, Trump will put statues of the Putin-murdered military in his "American Hero's Memorial Garden," moving Nino Scalia and Billy Graham out to make room.

    Even Frederick Douglass! (none / 0) (#6)
    by Abdul Abulbul Amir on Sun Jul 05, 2020 at 06:06:33 PM EST
    Hmmm (5.00 / 2) (#18)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Jul 06, 2020 at 08:33:19 AM EST
    BREAKING: A mob in New York--including members of the US military & a US General--has torn down & mutilated a statue beyond recognition

    This happened on July 9, 1776, the statue was of King George III, & the US military was led by General George Washington.

    We have a long standing tradition of tearing down statues. Maybe we should just quit erecting them.


    What do you think the motivation was (none / 0) (#7)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Sun Jul 05, 2020 at 06:38:01 PM EST
    behind this?

    It's a pretty sketchy area (none / 0) (#8)
    by jondee on Sun Jul 05, 2020 at 06:43:19 PM EST
    to begin with. People used to avoid it because of all the discarded needles laying around. I don't know if it's any better now, but the park isn't exactly famous for it's upkeep.

    Motivation (none / 0) (#42)
    by Abdul Abulbul Amir on Mon Jul 06, 2020 at 04:11:10 PM EST
    As a guess, it is to be part of the in crowd. Anyone can protest, but nothing beats toppling an oppressor's statue.

    Are you describing Frederick Douglass (5.00 / 1) (#45)
    by Peter G on Mon Jul 06, 2020 at 06:37:51 PM EST
    as "an oppressor"? Of whom, pray tell? You don't suppose the vandals could have been a gang of self-appointed avengers of "our heritage"?

    Not at all (1.00 / 2) (#47)
    by Abdul Abulbul Amir on Mon Jul 06, 2020 at 09:04:26 PM EST
    Freddy was no oppressor in the normal meaning of the word. Quite the opposite. But statue topplers always seem to be able to convince themselves of that.

    If you look hard enough the inventor of the polio vaccine probably did or said at least one thing that won't pass today's heightened moral sensitivity.

    Change the name of the Redskins?  Absolutely.  Too many Indian slave owners. Many fought for the Confederacy.


    I had forgotten (none / 0) (#46)
    by jondee on Mon Jul 06, 2020 at 07:11:36 PM EST
    two drunken miscreants from St John Fischer College did the same thing to a Frederick Douglass statue here in 2018.

    So, this kind of thing isn't necessarily the result of a protest-craze that's sweeping the nation.


    Tomorrow Morning don't forget (none / 0) (#9)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Jul 05, 2020 at 07:09:53 PM EST
    So electors may NOT be faithless (none / 0) (#19)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Jul 06, 2020 at 09:14:31 AM EST
    They are saying the decision was unanimous and that their principle was "no chaos"

    I feel like saying good plan and good luck with it.

    Maybe it's just MSNBC but it sort of sounded like they might have been specifically worried Trump might try to flip by whatever means necessary some if it was a close election and he lost.


    NBC (none / 0) (#21)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Jul 06, 2020 at 09:20:43 AM EST
    This is said to open the door (none / 0) (#49)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jul 07, 2020 at 12:28:22 PM EST
    To effectively getting rid of the electoral college

    Can We Please Pick the President by Popular Vote Now?
    The Supreme Court's unanimous decision in the "faithless electors" case is another reminder of how antiquated and undemocratic the Electoral College is.

    Shorter version, states can say "vote for the winner of the popular vote" if they choose


    It does not "effectively get rid of" (5.00 / 1) (#50)
    by Peter G on Tue Jul 07, 2020 at 12:52:52 PM EST
    the Electoral College unless most of the smaller states yield their disproportionate power by binding their delegates to vote for the winner of the national popular vote, not just for the winner of their own state's popular vote.

    No (none / 0) (#53)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jul 07, 2020 at 02:18:22 PM EST
    It opens the door to effectively getting rid of by empowering states.

    Counting down (none / 0) (#98)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Jul 08, 2020 at 08:59:34 AM EST
    Obamacare or Trump taxes.  Hopefully.

    Win for Trump (none / 0) (#100)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Jul 08, 2020 at 09:08:37 AM EST
    On contraception through Obamacare.

    7 to 2 decision (none / 0) (#101)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Jul 08, 2020 at 09:11:48 AM EST
    Ginsberg and Sotomayor

    RBG's name (none / 0) (#107)
    by Peter G on Wed Jul 08, 2020 at 10:33:55 AM EST
    is "Ginsburg" not "Ginsberg." I feel strongly that getting people's names right is part of respecting and honoring them.

    Mmmm K (5.00 / 1) (#112)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Jul 08, 2020 at 12:23:06 PM EST
    They've crunched (none / 0) (#113)
    by jondee on Wed Jul 08, 2020 at 01:12:26 PM EST
    and recrunched the numbers. They're nothing if not coldly calculating.

    The right will die on the electoral college hill defending it to the last man, as if everything else depends on it. Which it does. For them.


    Bader Ginsberg.. (none / 0) (#108)
    by jondee on Wed Jul 08, 2020 at 11:04:07 AM EST
    I saw the best legal minds of my generation destroyed by madness, dragging themselves naked, starved, and hysterical through the streets..

    that's almost (none / 0) (#110)
    by Peter G on Wed Jul 08, 2020 at 12:00:17 PM EST

    I remember Robert Graves (none / 0) (#111)
    by jondee on Wed Jul 08, 2020 at 12:06:58 PM EST
    saying Allen's a very nice man, but he's no more a poet than my Aunt Martha.

    Now, back to your regularly scheduled program.


    The dissent of Justice Ginsburg (Sotomayor), (none / 0) (#116)
    by KeysDan on Wed Jul 08, 2020 at 03:57:14 PM EST
    seems the most compelling argument, from my perspective, but the concurrence with the Thomas majority by Kagan (Breyer) seems to be a legal strategy. (If Kagan/Breyer joined the minority, it would still be 5/4).

    Thomas makes his case on the "breadth of the delegation involved here", noting that no party had pressed a constitutional challenge. So the question was what the plain language of the statute authorized.

    Justice Kagan seemed to be reaffirming that Congress may empower federal agencies to issue binding regulations so long as Congress "lays down by legislative act", an "intelligible principle" to which the person or body authorized to exercise the delegated authority is directed to conform.

     And, as Justice Kagan notes, "so long as" is not nothing. So long as there is reasoned decision making, and, he said, some my flunk.

     An accommodation for one group may have been acceptable, but not for the Little Sisters religious order, who still felt anything whatsoever  made them complicit. So, the rule making and exceptions need reasoned decision making and discernment.

    In another case, Gundy v US (involving sexual offenders) Gorsuch, in his dissent, suggested that this "intelligible principle" standard for Congressional delegation of authority risks giving agencies "unbounded policy choices" But, Gorsuch was vague on limits.

    It may be that Justice Kagan was providing Chevron deference to a regulatory agency, and looking to the future to guard against reducing regulatory powers by impermissible delegation of authority by Congress.

     If it is not spelled out by Congress with no specifics left to experts in the agencies, no regulation...a conservative goal, it seems.


    Looking forward to seeing (none / 0) (#102)
    by Chuck0 on Wed Jul 08, 2020 at 09:16:48 AM EST
    babies delivered to the doorsteps of employers who refuse to have health insurance provide contraception. Let them raise'em since, well, you know 'jeeezzzuuuus'.

    Important thing is the grounds for (none / 0) (#105)
    by Peter G on Wed Jul 08, 2020 at 10:30:17 AM EST
    the decision: HHS had authority under language of ACA to issue the regulation to grant the exemption. Importantly, the Court did not rule that RFRA (1994 "religious freedom" act) requires that exemption. So under this decision Biden can repeal it by giving notice in the Federal Register. Which I have to assume is why Kagan and Breyer joined the majority.

    The list (none / 0) (#10)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Jul 05, 2020 at 08:07:41 PM EST
    here's the list of Trumps famous important people theme park

    Oddly I don't have a problem with most of it.

    I would even give him a Reagan for, say, a Woody Guthrie.  Or a Patton for a Frank Zappa.

    Scalia would require a bigger give.  Maybe a Paul Lynde or Rue Paul.  

    The American people (5.00 / 1) (#11)
    by MO Blue on Sun Jul 05, 2020 at 10:03:43 PM EST
    Need Healthcare, they need adequate food, affordable housing, good and affordable education, decent paying jobs, safe bridges, roads and damns. There are so many basic needs that people need and are not being provided.

    What we don't need is a Garden of Statues no matter who is included.


    True enough (none / 0) (#12)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Jul 05, 2020 at 10:22:35 PM EST
    Personally I'm for eating the 1%.  Then there would be plenty of money for all that and a garden of statues

    If you need (another) reason (none / 0) (#13)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Jul 05, 2020 at 10:39:59 PM EST
    Not to belabor the obvious (none / 0) (#14)
    by jondee on Sun Jul 05, 2020 at 11:28:11 PM EST
    but what the eff in any way qualifies Kanye to be President?

    Another thing Trump seems to have done: emboldened the narcissism in other narcissists.

    Musk also seems to have that, with a high degree of Aspergers thrown in.


    I would guess that it is hoped (none / 0) (#15)
    by desertswine on Mon Jul 06, 2020 at 12:11:07 AM EST
    that West would siphon African-American votes away from Biden.

    HEH (none / 0) (#16)
    by jmacWA on Mon Jul 06, 2020 at 05:28:29 AM EST
    If that's the case why not replace Pence with him. The slotus would go from Mother to MOTHER

    Doubt (none / 0) (#17)
    by MO Blue on Mon Jul 06, 2020 at 06:37:09 AM EST
    Trump's White Supremacists and Neo Nazis base would approve of an AA Vice President.  

    Pretty sure (none / 0) (#22)
    by CST on Mon Jul 06, 2020 at 09:23:30 AM EST
    He's 35 yesrs old and born in America.

    He'd probably be a better president than Trump.

    In all seriousness though I'm pretty sure his constituancy consists of maybe his inlaws and that's it.  He's not even going to be on the ballot.


    Trump and Republicans: (none / 0) (#70)
    by KeysDan on Tue Jul 07, 2020 at 05:24:53 PM EST
    But, the Confederacy is our legacy, we need to honor those heroes, good generals,  who fought and killed Union soldiers.

    For the USA, defeating the rebel Confederacy is our legacy. Killing US soldiers is not something to honor.

    (Also, see update: Putin's kill an American soldier for rubles.)


    Won't link (none / 0) (#20)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Jul 06, 2020 at 09:19:13 AM EST
    But Trump is tweeting this morning that Bubba should apologize for the "noose hoax" and talking about how much lower NSACARs rating were after the got rid of the confederate flag.

    That really happened.

    At what point did the orange clown (5.00 / 1) (#27)
    by Chuck0 on Mon Jul 06, 2020 at 11:12:50 AM EST
    succeed Jefferson Davis as President of the CSA.

    Doesn't it seem every time he says the word "American" it just sounds like he is saying "white people?"

    "American way of life," "American values." I just hear "white people" for some reason.


    Just saw this (none / 0) (#28)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Jul 06, 2020 at 11:43:06 AM EST
    I'm just trying to figure (5.00 / 1) (#29)
    by jondee on Mon Jul 06, 2020 at 12:15:51 PM EST
    out what a loud-mouthed NY hustler, who would sell a rat's as* to a blind man for a wedding ring, has to do with the so-called time-honored traditions and heritage of the South.

    Tis is a mystery that passeth all understanding.


    He is capable of making them think (5.00 / 2) (#31)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Jul 06, 2020 at 12:22:43 PM EST
    He believes it what they believe.  We know he is opportunistically racist.    I told one of my Trumpie friends who said I thought Trump was a racist that he was wrong.  I did not think he was a racist and I never said I did.  
    To be a racist you have to believe in something.  He has no beliefs.

    But he can make them think he does and it's getting creepy.


    I guess we have to be grateful (none / 0) (#33)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Jul 06, 2020 at 12:32:47 PM EST
    For a Trumps stupidity and amateurism.  If you plan some kind of Boogie Woooogie red neck rebellion broadcasting it for 3 1/2 years so that every element of opposition was on high alert for the slightest hint of, well, anything is not a good plan.

    I got (5.00 / 1) (#36)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Jul 06, 2020 at 02:02:46 PM EST
    to tell you I am so glad that Trump is all that you say because I have heard for years down here that they won't vote for someone because they are from NY or "up north". The fact that they have fallen for the ultimate grifter from NYC of all places makes me laugh and laugh and laugh.

    Up North (none / 0) (#39)
    by jondee on Mon Jul 06, 2020 at 02:20:24 PM EST
    I know. It's another what the?! moment in American history.

    You'd think he was the great great grandson of PT Beauregard from Hattiesburg, Miss born 'n bred.


    The Confederate past (none / 0) (#32)
    by KeysDan on Mon Jul 06, 2020 at 12:29:44 PM EST
    is prologue to the Trump and Republican present. The Confederate States of America Constitution (adopted March ll, 1861) was based, in large measure with some language lifted directly,on the US Constitution.  

    Major differences, of course, were in the protection and expansion of slavery and different guarantees of states rights.  However, the tone, then as now in Trumpland, is evident in the respective preambles: The US Constitution, includes ....in order to form a more perfect Union; The CSA Constitution reads, ...to form a permanent government. And, the US Constitution's .."to promote the general welfare", was omitted in the CSA Constitution.

    Trump and the Republicans have been hostile to the US Constitution's "to promote the general welfare", leaning to promoting the welfare of the favored and family. And, as a horrible example, eliminating health care to millions during a pandemic.
    The impeached president is now all in and gone all out for his 2020 version of White Supremacy. Indeed, Trump's campaign is, essentially, wrapped in the Confederate Flag. Jeff would be proud.


    Have you ever done a google of (none / 0) (#34)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Jul 06, 2020 at 12:48:34 PM EST
    Stone Mountain?

    I lived in GA for 4 years but never saw it.

    I did not know some of the really awful history.

    But beyond that is an eyesore.  It looks like an open sore on that spectacular rock formation.  Some kind of cancerous growth.

    It's ugly.  It's blatant.  I don't see how you get rid of it.  

    But a Trump event there is inevitable


    I have (5.00 / 1) (#37)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Jul 06, 2020 at 02:06:31 PM EST
    seen it and lived in GA over 30 years now and I honestly can say I never knew the awful history. It's not something that is played up at least here in the Atlanta area.

    Ironically the park has been privatized and does a light show talking about the total defeat of the confederacy against the backdrop of the soldiers. I have to tell you I went once as a child and the light show was nothing like that. It was a total lost cause story.


    No, don't (none / 0) (#35)
    by KeysDan on Mon Jul 06, 2020 at 01:49:22 PM EST
    know much about it.  From the link it appears that it is a bas relief sculpture that could be removed without too much damage.   Yes, a good place for a Trumpapooloza.

    I saw it. (none / 0) (#23)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Jul 06, 2020 at 09:37:24 AM EST
    Ugh. I hope when he is gone the press doesn't report on his tweets.

    This story (none / 0) (#25)
    by KeysDan on Mon Jul 06, 2020 at 10:44:24 AM EST
    Is two weeks old.  Trump is reaching back in his distraction file since this is Supreme Court Monday.  Not to mention the facts of the noose case showing that Trump is lying.

    "Mostly Peaceful Protest" (none / 0) (#40)
    by Abdul Abulbul Amir on Mon Jul 06, 2020 at 02:33:51 PM EST
    Leaves eight year old girl shot dead in Atlanta.

    Mostly Peaceful Protest™ in the media these days appears to mean less than a dozen shot, fewer than three fatalities, with only scattered arson.

    It's funny what kind of ... (5.00 / 1) (#48)
    by Yman on Mon Jul 06, 2020 at 09:10:34 PM EST
    ... mind-numbing, garbage usually follows the phrase "appears to".

    Especially when the person using that phrase (none / 0) (#51)
    by Peter G on Tue Jul 07, 2020 at 12:54:28 PM EST
    does so dishonestly, as a form of snark rather than of analysis or to demonstrate insight.

    NPR (none / 0) (#118)
    by Abdul Abulbul Amir on Wed Jul 08, 2020 at 04:29:50 PM EST
    Try again (5.00 / 1) (#130)
    by Yman on Wed Jul 08, 2020 at 08:04:20 PM EST
    The article doesn't mention the driver's race because they hadn't yet identified the driver, including his name.  Or is that part of your tinfoil conspiracy theory as well?

    But it's interesting you're offended by them mentioning the fact that there have been many vehicle ramming incidents of protesters by rightwing whackjobs ... almost like you identify with them.


    abc news shows pictures (none / 0) (#132)
    by Abdul Abulbul Amir on Wed Jul 08, 2020 at 09:42:20 PM EST
    So the race is in the public domain.


    Foreign newspapers had the race as well.

    A black driver hitting white BLM protestors just doesn't fit the narrative.


    Psssstt ... Einstein (5.00 / 2) (#146)
    by Yman on Thu Jul 09, 2020 at 11:43:24 AM EST
    The NPR post was shortly after the incident before they had identified the driver.  The ABC article was posted 4 days later after the driver had been identified and charged.

    BTW - White, rightwing nutjobs threatening and attacking BLM protesters (including with cars) isn't a "narrative" - it's a pattern that's happened at least 18 times since May, with another 2 dozen under investigation.  But it's no surprise really, given how the wingnut "law and order" types think they're above the law.

    Let me know if you need links - always happy to educate.


    Why bother? (5.00 / 1) (#148)
    by leap on Thu Jul 09, 2020 at 11:58:45 AM EST
    White-wing nuts such as Abdul Abdul are not teachable. Save your energy for more important things, like lunch.

    Ennio Morricone... (none / 0) (#41)
    by desertswine on Mon Jul 06, 2020 at 03:49:56 PM EST
    I love the "Dollars Trilogy" music (5.00 / 2) (#44)
    by McBain on Mon Jul 06, 2020 at 06:23:06 PM EST
    Doo doo doo doo doo... (none / 0) (#91)
    by desertswine on Wed Jul 08, 2020 at 12:17:15 AM EST
    Wah wah wah

    The Danish National Symphony Orchestra (none / 0) (#109)
    by McBain on Wed Jul 08, 2020 at 11:14:36 AM EST
    does a good version of that and other film scores.

    It's very entertaining. (none / 0) (#133)
    by desertswine on Thu Jul 09, 2020 at 12:57:24 AM EST
    RIP Charlie Daniels (none / 0) (#52)
    by McBain on Tue Jul 07, 2020 at 02:14:04 PM EST
    I remember him most for his performance of The Devil Went Down to Georgia in the movie Urban Cowboy.

    One of my HS faves. (none / 0) (#56)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Tue Jul 07, 2020 at 02:27:49 PM EST
    Trump has (none / 0) (#54)
    by KeysDan on Tue Jul 07, 2020 at 02:21:38 PM EST
    officially given the necessary one-year notice for the US withdrawal  from the World Health Organization.  Effective July 6, 2021.  Biden should be able to get this reversed with his first executive order rescinding all of Trump's executive orders over his four-year term.  And, go from there.

    Meanwhile, Trump may impede the work of WHO and global cooperation and coordination in vaccine and pharmacological treatment efforts.  But, he does have a scapegoat for his lethal response to the pandemic and the economic devastation resulting from his incompetence and irresponsibility.

    I have been (none / 0) (#55)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue Jul 07, 2020 at 02:26:16 PM EST
    seeing Mary Trump's book discussed on TV.

    She says:

    1. Trump paid somebody to take the SAT for him.
    2. The family sent her father off to die by himself with nobody coming to the hospital. Donald went to a movie.
    3. Cheating is a way of life for Trump.

    "Trump paid somebody (5.00 / 2) (#89)
    by KeysDan on Tue Jul 07, 2020 at 10:34:20 PM EST
    to take the SAT for him".  So the mystery is solved.  Not Moscow Ritz-Carlton videos, not Oligarchs.buying Trump condos., not Deutsche Bank dealings.    Putin took his SAT for him.

    Thanks (none / 0) (#90)
    by MO Blue on Tue Jul 07, 2020 at 10:42:27 PM EST
    For the laugh.

    I look forward (none / 0) (#57)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jul 07, 2020 at 02:32:56 PM EST
    To hearing about the juicy bits but unless she has the specific location of a body and a weapon I don't think it will make a bit of difference.

    I don't think (none / 0) (#58)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue Jul 07, 2020 at 02:41:45 PM EST
    it will make a difference either but I do think it will be something else the GOP is going to have to defend. His sister even called Trump a clown.

    One of the things (none / 0) (#59)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jul 07, 2020 at 03:03:32 PM EST
    Everywhere is this

    "Donald has been institutionalized for most of his adult life, so there is no way to know how he would thrive, or even survive, on his own in the real world."

    I've not seen any explanation of what that means but it's an interesting bit.


    From a personal point of view, I am (none / 0) (#61)
    by Peter G on Tue Jul 07, 2020 at 03:18:14 PM EST
    very interested in what the book has to say about his sister Maryanne (the one who became a federal judge) and what it says she had to say about her brother. I have known her (not well and certainly not personally, but professionally on an ongoing basis) for decades, and always thought very highly of her intellect and probity.

    Some (5.00 / 1) (#62)
    by FlJoe on Tue Jul 07, 2020 at 03:34:12 PM EST
    President Trump's sister, Maryanne Trump Barry, has a lot to say about her brother in private, according to a new book by the president's niece, Mary Trump.

    And it's scathing.

    "He's a clown," Maryanne is quoted saying, according to a copy of the book reviewed by VICE News. Maryanne dismisses his then-burgeoning presidential campaign in 2015 as preposterous, saying: "This will never happen."

    He is a clown, (none / 0) (#77)
    by KeysDan on Tue Jul 07, 2020 at 07:00:34 PM EST
    on her way to vote for him, probably.

    Rachel just read a passage (none / 0) (#80)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jul 07, 2020 at 08:12:15 PM EST
    About how on Trumps instructions Roy Cohn called Ed Meese and lobbied to have her appointed a judge.

    She rose to be chief of the appellate section (none / 0) (#82)
    by Peter G on Tue Jul 07, 2020 at 08:31:00 PM EST
    in the U.S. Attorney's Office for the District of New Jersey. That's a big deal. A very good lawyer, tough but fair (I am speaking here of an adversary, understand). Highly qualified for the position of district judge to which she was appointed by Reagan, and likely on the radar for it regardless of her brother's connections. Same thing when Clinton elevated her 16 years later to the Court of Appeals. As I have said here many times, an excellent judge. (One of few where I was concerned, when I appeared before her, that she might ask a question about my case to which I didn't have a good answer. Alito was another.) And a real human being. I attended a wedding she officiated, where she broke down crying when talking to the couple about the meaning of the marital relationship. Clearly thinking of her second husband, the love of her life, who was a wheel-chair-bound lawyer who died in middle age. Cannot imagine her brother doing that under any circumstances.

    She also mentioned (none / 0) (#83)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jul 07, 2020 at 08:55:13 PM EST
    She resigned her position to avoid an ethics investigation.  

    I recommend the Rachel segment when it's online.  


    There is no basis to say she resigned (5.00 / 1) (#87)
    by Peter G on Tue Jul 07, 2020 at 10:04:27 PM EST
    "to avoid an ethics investigation." She chose to retire at age 81, after being a judge for some 35 years and in government service for almost ten years before that. She was more than entitled to retire. Yes, the NYT investigation of Tr*mp family taxes raised questions whether she took part in or sufficiently distanced herself from her brother's unethical maneuvers, and whether she benefited from them. From my own experience with her, I am more than willing to give her the benefit of the doubt on this score until and unless proven otherwise.

    That's does not I'm afraid (5.00 / 1) (#95)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Jul 08, 2020 at 06:38:53 AM EST
    As I said (none / 0) (#96)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Jul 08, 2020 at 06:44:52 AM EST
    Rachel explains

    "Tell all book renews attention on Trumps sisters ethics inquiry "


    The whole thing makes me queasy (none / 0) (#60)
    by Peter G on Tue Jul 07, 2020 at 03:15:42 PM EST
    Not the disclosure of family history so much -- that's fair game for someone who voluntarily thrusts himself into such a public position of power -- as the publication of a psychological /psychiatric analysis by one with a degree but not the professional distance, objectivity or perspective to render it.

    Ordinarily (none / 0) (#63)
    by KeysDan on Tue Jul 07, 2020 at 04:13:42 PM EST
    I would agree.  Former Senator Bill Frist (R. TN), and himself medically trained, did a disservice with his "video-tape" back seat driving in theTerri Schiavo case, as an example. However,  Mary's assessments of Uncle Trump may depend on how she qualifies (if she does)  her observations, such as being not unlike cases with which she has been involved.

    And, too, the niece has seen Uncle Trump up close (ugh) even  though it may have been a while ago. Moreover, Trump's behaviors are so grossly abnormal and glaringly transparent a psych 101 student is likely to nail it.

    This is probably not the case, but the cynic in me regarding the Trump family, makes me want to be sure to rule out another grift---with Uncle Trump getting his cut of book sales and movie rights.  Sort of like the old Nigerian Prince email scams, they just keep coming for more.


    I barely passed Psych 101, and never took (5.00 / 1) (#72)
    by Peter G on Tue Jul 07, 2020 at 06:12:23 PM EST
    another course in that so-called "discipline." I learned all my real psychology in law school clinic and in criminal defense practice. That said, I nailed Tr*mp as having a "text book narcissistic personal disorder" on Day One (and there is probably evidence in the Talk Left archives to verify this). Don't need no stinkin' Ph.D. to call that one.

    Crazy (5.00 / 1) (#76)
    by FlJoe on Tue Jul 07, 2020 at 06:24:30 PM EST
    I know it when I see it.

    personality disorder, that is (none / 0) (#74)
    by Peter G on Tue Jul 07, 2020 at 06:20:54 PM EST
    not "personal disorder". Sorry about the proofreading slip-up.

    The shocking (none / 0) (#78)
    by KeysDan on Tue Jul 07, 2020 at 07:03:50 PM EST
    thing about the niece's book is that we are not shocked.

    Got a problem with that? (none / 0) (#64)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jul 07, 2020 at 04:38:20 PM EST
    Former Sen. Judd Gregg (R-NH) offers a conspiracy theory in The Hill in which he warns of a "coup" in which "socialist" and "far left" figures in the Democratic party install a running mate for Joe Biden and then use the 25th Amendment to topple Biden.

    Republicans have nothing. (none / 0) (#65)
    by KeysDan on Tue Jul 07, 2020 at 05:02:03 PM EST
    Their only slogan is vote for us, and we promise to do nothing. And, do it corruptly and incompetently. And, we are the swamp. Not a good crowd pleaser, however. So, send in the loons.

    I had forgotten (none / 0) (#66)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jul 07, 2020 at 05:08:29 PM EST
    About that

    Please, please by all that is holy (none / 0) (#85)
    by MO Blue on Tue Jul 07, 2020 at 09:14:48 PM EST
    Don't repeat that insanity in the Biden administration.

    Merrick Garland hopefully has cured that self destructive tendency in the Democratic Party.


    Which of Them are Far Left? (none / 0) (#67)
    by RickyJim on Tue Jul 07, 2020 at 05:13:05 PM EST
    Maybe Elizabeth Warren but not Kemala Harris or Susan Rice, I think.

    Liz Warren is certainly on the Left of (none / 0) (#73)
    by Peter G on Tue Jul 07, 2020 at 06:16:42 PM EST
    the American political spectrum, but anyone who calls any elected Democrat "far left" (as Tr*mp so often does) has never met anyone on the actual far Left. As I and many of us on this blog no doubt have, much to our frustration when we ever tried to get anything progressive accomplished.

    The whole world laughs (5.00 / 4) (#79)
    by MO Blue on Tue Jul 07, 2020 at 07:19:17 PM EST
    The whole world, outside of the US, laughs when politicians discuss the "far left" here in the US. Even our most progressive politicians, do not register on the "far left" spectrum of other countries.

    The Lincoln Project (none / 0) (#68)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jul 07, 2020 at 05:15:10 PM EST
    That ad (5.00 / 1) (#69)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue Jul 07, 2020 at 05:22:56 PM EST
    is for an audience of one it seems. I await the rage tweeting about it and how they are "losers".

    At (5.00 / 1) (#75)
    by FlJoe on Tue Jul 07, 2020 at 06:23:40 PM EST
    this point the occupancy rate in tRump's head is way higher than his hotels ever had.

    Story Hour (5.00 / 1) (#175)
    by MO Blue on Thu Jul 16, 2020 at 07:23:54 PM EST
    The Lincoln Project is really messing with Trump's head with this one. Not even a hint that the ad has any other purpose.

    story hours


    Episode 2 is up tonight (none / 0) (#177)
    by Peter G on Thu Jul 16, 2020 at 09:06:32 PM EST
    "Your own mother was an immigrant. Shame on you."

    They are raising lots of money (none / 0) (#178)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jul 16, 2020 at 09:23:54 PM EST
    did you see Colbert's take (5.00 / 1) (#182)
    by leap on Thu Jul 16, 2020 at 11:23:08 PM EST
    Just saw Rachel Bitecofer (none / 0) (#81)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jul 07, 2020 at 08:25:42 PM EST
    Talking to Chris Hayes about the senate.  Rachel, not a person known for hyperbole, made it sound very possible the Democrats could win as many as 10 seats or more.  Including Lindsey Graham who she says is at best a toss up for a variety of reasons.

    And she didn't even talk about the ones that are beginning to give Republicans reflux.  Like Cornyn, Mitch and the ones in GA.

    She talked about how her models had been looking good for Democrats for months but the pandemic has made it all go off the charts.

    On that subject

    As Bad as it Gets

    Cook political report (none / 0) (#97)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Jul 08, 2020 at 08:56:20 AM EST
    Meanwhile... (none / 0) (#92)
    by desertswine on Wed Jul 08, 2020 at 12:52:07 AM EST
    Et tu Rasmussen? (none / 0) (#114)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Jul 08, 2020 at 02:44:52 PM EST
    Tomorrow (none / 0) (#117)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Jul 08, 2020 at 04:29:03 PM EST
    Don't know (none / 0) (#121)
    by KeysDan on Wed Jul 08, 2020 at 05:55:17 PM EST
    if he got it from one of his sage taxi drivers, but Tom Friedman (NYTimes, Jul 8) argues that Biden should not debate Uncle Trump unless he releases his tax returns, as Biden has already done.  

    As for, the Supreme Court rulings tomorrow, it will be surprising if the public gets to see Trumps financials any time soon, I.e., before the election.  The NY case may get them for the grand jury or investigation and Congress' getting them is ify.   Hope I am wrong for several reasons including for the sake of the institution of the Supreme Court.


    Seeing him lose (5.00 / 1) (#123)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Jul 08, 2020 at 06:14:38 PM EST
    Wouldl be quite enough for tomorrow.

    The staff (5.00 / 1) (#126)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed Jul 08, 2020 at 06:38:04 PM EST
    probably would hide his phone. Maybe they already are getting ready to hide it.

    Maybe Mary Trump has some advise on how to handle him. Treat him like a toddler is what I would do.


    It is probably (none / 0) (#122)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed Jul 08, 2020 at 06:01:37 PM EST
    a decent idea but Trump doesn't want to debate anyway and that would give Trump an out.

    That (5.00 / 1) (#124)
    by KeysDan on Wed Jul 08, 2020 at 06:32:42 PM EST
    Might be OK.  

    I doubt the details of his possible tax crimes (none / 0) (#131)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Jul 08, 2020 at 08:40:07 PM EST
    Or whatever else would have a huge effect on the election.  At this point anyone who is still with him seems unlikely to be moved by such things.

    What might move votes is what he does if he loses.  How he reacts.  Which one can only imagine.  The only reliable prediction is it won't be pretty.

    That said, if congress get his taxes and even half of what is suspected is in there about, for example Russia comes to mind, I can see a lot of pressure being felt and applied about the responsibility to share at least some of it with voters before the election.


    Supreme Court, 7-2, upholds the authority (5.00 / 1) (#135)
    by Peter G on Thu Jul 09, 2020 at 09:06:04 AM EST
    of the NY grand jury to subpoena Tr*mp's tax returns. Opinion by the Chief Justice.

    And actually unanimous in rejecting (5.00 / 1) (#136)
    by Peter G on Thu Jul 09, 2020 at 09:08:00 AM EST
    Tr*mp's claim of absolute immunity to any state court process.

    The mind boggles at the potential here (none / 0) (#125)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Jul 08, 2020 at 06:37:19 PM EST
    A potential new addition to President Trump's future rallies: statues.

    The idea has been discussed by White House and Trump campaign aides, but no final decision has been made, sources familiar with the planning told ABC News. It's also not clear who exactly the statues would resemble, but sources say one idea was for "America's Founding Fathers."


    I can see it now (none / 0) (#127)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed Jul 08, 2020 at 06:40:14 PM EST
    paper mache statues that are easily tipped over by a wind. Talk about looking like making rallies look like a cult ritual.

    Trump the Redeemer (none / 0) (#128)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Jul 08, 2020 at 07:12:29 PM EST
    I had not (none / 0) (#134)
    by Ga6thDem on Thu Jul 09, 2020 at 03:59:47 AM EST
    been on Ebay in forever. LOL. I see there is a plethora of Trump garbage you can buy.

    NY does not win outright (none / 0) (#137)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jul 09, 2020 at 09:08:21 AM EST
    Going back to the trial court.

    I think I read that was the questionable one and the Congress case was more likely a loss for Trump.

    No, no. The opposite. Many justices seemed (5.00 / 1) (#140)
    by Peter G on Thu Jul 09, 2020 at 09:17:48 AM EST
    to feel the justification for the Congressional subpoena was sketchy, that is, no real legislative purpose. Another 7-2 by Roberts. Court remands for deeper consideration of the separation of powers implications.

    Thanks (none / 0) (#142)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jul 09, 2020 at 09:19:44 AM EST
    Good news for Trump there I guess (none / 0) (#144)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jul 09, 2020 at 09:23:05 AM EST
    Less so for the NY case I would think.  

    More important, claim of absolute immunity is (5.00 / 2) (#143)
    by Peter G on Thu Jul 09, 2020 at 09:21:55 AM EST
    absolutely rejected. So Tr*mp remains under active criminal and congressional investigation for the duration of the campaign season (as well as for the rest of his miserable life).

    Neal Katyal (none / 0) (#145)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jul 09, 2020 at 10:27:59 AM EST
    Pretty smart guy, said he thinks Cy Vance will move much more quickly than some are predicting.

    Meaning more public information sooner.  


    From Neal's lips (none / 0) (#147)
    by Yman on Thu Jul 09, 2020 at 11:46:38 AM EST
    Let's hope so.  I doubt it would make a bit of difference among Trump's base (he was spot on with his "shoot someone on 5th Avenue comment), but it might make a difference with true independents.

    Tom Winter says (none / 0) (#138)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jul 09, 2020 at 09:14:20 AM EST
    Vance will probably get what he wants but it could be months.

    It was a 7 to 2 decision saying he has no special proviledge.


    Thomas and Alito (none / 0) (#139)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jul 09, 2020 at 09:14:57 AM EST
    Are the 2

    Congressional case also being sent back (none / 0) (#141)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jul 09, 2020 at 09:18:57 AM EST
    To the lower courts.  

    The House Democrats Waited Too Long (5.00 / 1) (#149)
    by RickyJim on Thu Jul 09, 2020 at 01:37:25 PM EST
    Maybe at least a year before subpoenaing Trump's tax returns.  I agree with Bolton that there was incompetence on their part in betting everything on the Ukraine situation.

    Chuck Woolery, again (none / 0) (#153)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jul 16, 2020 at 12:58:01 PM EST

    "Former game show host Chuck Woolery announced his son has tested positive for COVID-19, just days after Woolery accused medical professionals and Democrats of lying about the virus in an effort to hurt the economy and President Trump's reelection chances," The Hill reports.

    "Woolery has since deleted his Twitter account following the announcement about his son."

    I'd never heard of "Chuck Woolery" (none / 0) (#154)
    by leap on Thu Jul 16, 2020 at 01:21:38 PM EST
    before, what, maybe a week or two ago when that name suddenly emerged into some sort of news-worthiness. I thought it was a cartoon character's name, like Foghorn Leghorn, and people were using that character as some sort of metaphor. I still don't understand why he is newsworthy. And I'm still convinced it's a cartoon character.

    We'll be back in 2 and 2 (none / 0) (#155)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Thu Jul 16, 2020 at 01:40:32 PM EST
    I forget how that show worked (none / 0) (#160)
    by McBain on Thu Jul 16, 2020 at 03:02:56 PM EST
    Something to do with the audience voting on who the guest should date?

    2 & 2 is all I remember (none / 0) (#161)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Thu Jul 16, 2020 at 03:10:17 PM EST
    the show was not really my jam

    I met him once (none / 0) (#162)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jul 16, 2020 at 03:16:56 PM EST
    At Peter Marshals ( Hollywood Squares) House.

    Long story.  He married my best friends (younger) sister.  


    BTW (none / 0) (#163)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jul 16, 2020 at 03:43:58 PM EST
    Peter is also a rabid right winger.  Although he kept a lower profile about it.  And Laurie became one.  So much so that back when I was still on FaceBook I unfriended her, after several warnings, because of the krap she kept putting up.

    And I haven't actually spoken to her since.  Tho I have spoken to Dons Mom and two of his other sisters who were are confused by Laurie's swerve to the right as I was.

    But I find it hard to believe either would be Trump supporters.  But not that hard.


    You made me look him up on wiki (none / 0) (#166)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Thu Jul 16, 2020 at 04:57:50 PM EST
    he's been married many times...

    Indeed (none / 0) (#167)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jul 16, 2020 at 05:11:58 PM EST
    We all sniggered a little when they started dating but Laurie is nobody's trophy.  She is very smart.  5 languages.  Worked as an interpreter at the UN for a while.  And she has her own money.

    Once we were drinking and kidding her about him and she said "at least he's not after my money"

    Which is probably a big thing for a very attractive girl with money.

    Peter is in fact a very charming guy.  Very funny.  I can see why she did it.  Heck, I might have married him.


    I don't know without checking (none / 0) (#168)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jul 16, 2020 at 05:13:41 PM EST
    Exactly how old Laurie is but I know she would go out drinking with Don and me when we were at least late 20s and she was in HS.

    Peter is 94.  I did check that.


    You made me look (none / 0) (#187)
    by Yman on Fri Jul 17, 2020 at 10:42:06 AM EST
    I always knew he was a conservative, but turns out he's a gun nut and active in the "Christian" ministry.  Currently on wife number 4, who is 17 years younger than him.  Surprised it's not a bigger age difference.

    Talking about Chuck (5.00 / 1) (#193)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jul 17, 2020 at 11:37:38 AM EST
    I think.



    If you are talking about Peter (none / 0) (#190)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jul 17, 2020 at 11:12:24 AM EST
    I believe he's been married 3 times and there is a lot more than 17 years between him and Laurie his current wife.

    I would guess about 40 years difference or more.


    Serial killers (none / 0) (#174)
    by Peter G on Thu Jul 16, 2020 at 06:50:45 PM EST
    Tr*mp and Barr do it again. Final words: "This sanitized murder really does not serve no purpose whatsoever."

    I like the old guy (none / 0) (#179)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jul 16, 2020 at 09:25:45 PM EST
    Mary Trump (none / 0) (#180)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jul 16, 2020 at 09:34:41 PM EST
    Might not be Donald's biggest problem but she is definitely a problem.

    I watched the Rachel interview.  It was shocking.   She is very articulate.  She makes a pretty devastating case.

    Her book sold almost 1 million copies in one day


    I watched the interview too. (none / 0) (#183)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Jul 17, 2020 at 05:48:54 AM EST
    She pretty much makes the case that he is a monster but in a lot of ways it's not his fault he is a monster. He was created in the Trump monster laboratory.

    I also found it interesting that the NYT came knocking at her door and she was reluctant at first to hand over information regarding the taxes. And then when she did it was 40 or so boxes.

    It seems everybody who has read the book says it is a good read and very instructive.

    Also I found interesting the fact that she said if Trump is routed in November he probably will not pull anything. The only thing that works in Trump's favor to rile up the troops is a close Biden win.


    Cook political report (none / 0) (#184)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jul 17, 2020 at 09:00:45 AM EST
    Cook Political Report: "President Trump's abysmal polling since the pandemic began is seriously jeopardizing down-ballot GOP fortunes. We may be approaching the point at which dozens of House Republicans will need to decide whether to cut the president loose and run on a `check and balance' message, offering voters insurance against congressional Democrats moving too far left under a potential Biden administration."

    "This week, we're shifting our ratings in 20 races, all reflecting movement towards Democrats."


    this is why

    The Post's Matt Viser nicely captured the vibe when he observed that Trump's comments had `the stream-of-consciousness feel of the third hour of AM talk radio.'"


    Hello Jamaal goodbye Eliot (none / 0) (#188)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jul 17, 2020 at 11:05:17 AM EST
    Jamaal Bowman has defeated House Foreign Affairs Chair Eliot Engel in New York's 16th congressional district's Democratic primary, which took place on June 23, Axios reports.

    RBGs liver cancer has recurred (none / 0) (#189)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jul 17, 2020 at 11:06:29 AM EST
    Pete Williams is talking about this as breaking news.  Don't know if it's up on the nets yet.

    Send you good vibes

    Justice Ginsburg Chemotherapy. (5.00 / 2) (#191)
    by KeysDan on Fri Jul 17, 2020 at 11:25:14 AM EST
    The liver malignancy is responding satisfactorily to the chemotherapy that has been underway.  Not related to the possible infection for which she has recently been hospitalized.   Best wishes to her.

    Daily Kos - Kerry Eleveld (none / 0) (#200)
    by desertswine on Fri Jul 17, 2020 at 03:18:55 PM EST
    Oregon (none / 0) (#201)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jul 17, 2020 at 05:28:58 PM EST
    The U.S. attorney in Oregon wants an investigation into "constitutionally questionable arrests in Portland" by officers from U.S. Customs and Border Protection, according to Oregon Public Broadcasting.