Friday Open Thread

So, who made Joe Biden's "heart go boom" when he saw her standing there? And, will he pick his heart throb for his running mate or will his head take over and make him choose someone else?**

I've taken the week off from blogging. I'm Trump-ed out, Biden-ed out and virus-ed out. The attention being given to the selfish, ignorant segment of the American people who object to wearing masks is just so aggravating. When the respirator shortage comes, can we send them to the back of the line? (yes that's snark).

But on that topic, I really hoped more people would follow guidelines and stop congregating in large numbers without masks so states will not have to implement their Crisis Standards of Care guidelines, which determine whose life is most worth saving, when due to a shortage of respirators or other equipment or medicine, you can't save them all. Reading these guidelines may be the most depressing wake-up call of this pandemic yet. [More...]

Every state makes its own guidelines. You can google them for your state.

All of Colorado's Crisis Standards of Care guidelines are available here. Colorado's May, 2020 Crisis Standard of Care" guidelines for COVID-19 are here. Last month, they added guidelines for palliative care and hospices.

If you want the cheat sheet, here's the Triage Plan scoring sheet.

In political news, I saw an ad for Joe Biden last night. It looked like he was running for Pope instead of President, with all the crosses and religious symbolism. Not a memorable ad.

Donald Trump finally demoted his former website builder- turned- digital strategist turned campaign- manager, Brad Parscale,. Parscale was the manager of the digital media aspect of Trump's 2016 campaign. He and Kushner got instructed in Facebook micro-targeting and became experts. Parscale has always been under the protection of his "rabbi" Jared Kushner, but maybe the Tulsa debacle was the proverbial straw that broke the camel's back. Either that or the staff's resentment that he got to work from home in Florida and dial in to meetings while they were stuck in D.C.

Trump has put Bill Stepien, a Chris Christie alumni, best known for taking the 5th in response to a BridgeGate subpoena, getting dumped by Christie, and having an affair with his successor in Christie's administration, Bridget Anne Kelly, and then dumping her. (Kelly was one of two who went to trial in Bridgegate. Both were convicted and then the Third Circuit Court of Appeals reversed.

An independent report concluded Stepien had been told about the plan to close the bridge lanes ahead of time but not the reason (to punish a political adversary), so he didn't do anything wrong or get charged.

** I've been trying to find a relevant topic for this video for weeks. It's from the 1988 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction ceremony of the Beatles. RIP George Harrison, but look how many of these rockers are still with us 30 years later!

This is an open thread, all topics welcome.

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    You really (5.00 / 1) (#2)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Jul 17, 2020 at 06:40:53 PM EST
    didn't miss anything because like you said it's just more Trump garbage day in and day out.

    Biden back on Epiphany screed (5.00 / 2) (#4)
    by MO Blue on Fri Jul 17, 2020 at 11:52:12 PM EST
    Biden Says Republicans Will Have `Epiphany' If He Is Elected

    Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden predicted Friday that big wins for his party in November could lead to an "epiphany" that convinces Republicans to join Democrats in pulling the country out of crisis.

    "If we win as big as we possibly can, there's going to be a great, great epiphany that's going to take place, as we Catholics say," Biden told donors at a high-dollar virtual fundraiser.

    Meanwhile back in the real world, McConnell is plotting all the ways he can sabotage a Biden presidency if he is elected.

    Another Democratic President rehabilitating the Republican Party would be pure insanity. Please "Just Say No" to this sh!t.

    Everytime (5.00 / 3) (#7)
    by Ga6thDem on Sat Jul 18, 2020 at 07:15:22 AM EST
    I see this type of thing said by Biden I have Obama flashbacks of him getting run over by the GOP.

    Was Biden blind and mute for 8 years? I have to wonder sometimes.


    He also said this (none / 0) (#8)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Jul 18, 2020 at 07:25:59 AM EST
    July 14, 2020 at 10:45 am EDT By Taegan Goddard 175 Comments

    Joe Biden  signaled he would be open to the Senate ending its practice of imposing a 60-vote threshold for most legislation, a positional shift from the Democratic presidential nominee who spent more than 35 years as a senator, the New York Times reports.

    Said Biden: "It's going to depend on how obstreperous they become... But I think you're going to just have to take a look at it."

    There is a substantive (none / 0) (#19)
    by KeysDan on Sat Jul 18, 2020 at 10:42:06 AM EST
    difference, I believe, between a Republican epiphany that revitalizes a moribund ideology and sheds its unprincipled and undemocratic approach to governing, and a Democratic resuscitation of a corpse that the Constitution and its call to "promote the general welfare" can show no remorse.

    Trump and Trumpism are an outgrowth of a Republican Party long in the making and it will take quite the revelation (e.g., a big electoral loss)to just scamper onto the road to recovery. The party has to no longer put stone---Confederate monuments and Roger, above the lives, justice and welfare of citizens.

    President Obama seemed to feel, mistakenly,  that he could win Republicans over to cooperate and work together for the common good, as he may have found with some senate colleagues, such as Senator Tom Coburn (R. OK)---his "Brother in Christ" as he referred to him.  But, he found, after some unfruitful experiences, that friendship ends where the party line begins.

    Certainly, Joe Biden, as witness to the thwarting of Obama's agenda as well as present day Republicanism, is well aware of the situation and knows the crisis we are in cannot abide obstructionism.  My guess is that he is appealing to what many Americans still harbor, or at least still want to hear---that we all need to get along.


    I really (none / 0) (#22)
    by Ga6thDem on Sat Jul 18, 2020 at 11:29:50 AM EST
    hope the GOP can learn something but honestly I think it is going to take a couple of election cycles for them to get the message. I'm not even sure the GOP is going to exist before long and will go the way of the Whigs and there will be another party

    I respect your opinion (none / 0) (#33)
    by MO Blue on Sat Jul 18, 2020 at 01:37:34 PM EST
    Yet, I'm not convinced that Biden is truly aware that he cannot convince Republicans to work with him for the greater good. He is of the generation where some bipartisanship compromises were possible and I am concerned that he believes that HE can work with them once again.

    Hopefully,  he will become president and you are correct that Biden is not working under that misconception.


    ARGGGHHH (none / 0) (#5)
    by jmacWA on Sat Jul 18, 2020 at 05:08:23 AM EST
    I seriously hope this is not true, but seeing as how it's Biden I don't doubt it.  There should be no quarter give to ANY Selected or Elected member of the GOP.  They are the culmination of the rot introduced into the party by Regan, and we would be best if they would totally implode.

    I think one of two things is inevitable (none / 0) (#9)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Jul 18, 2020 at 07:37:11 AM EST
    The republicans are going to be crushed in Nov.  everyone is welcome to their opinion but that's what I think is going to happen.  Is happening.

    After that there will be two choices.  

    They will either go the way of my Senator who is laying plans to be the new Trump, which IMO will make them an irrelevant minority party and lead to some kind of conservative third party neither choice being great for their electoral chances,  or they will have what might be correctly called an "epiphany" and realize  they have to start talking about what matter to people.  As the famous 2008 "autopsy" advised.

    This is a perfect example of why the campaign he has been running is the best one for Biden.

    Just shut up and smile would be my advise.

    And BTW
    Mitch is very likely going to be a private citizen in Jan.


    KY senate (5.00 / 1) (#10)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Jul 18, 2020 at 07:40:21 AM EST
    Trump's polling, as bad as it is, (none / 0) (#31)
    by KeysDan on Sat Jul 18, 2020 at 12:35:09 PM EST
    continues to be disheartening.

    If an orange cotton-candy-haired man with orange make-up on his face obviously applied with a trowel, came and sat next to almost any American on a park bench, and started a rambling tirade about how windmills cause cancer, how government will be coming after your windows, how dogs and cats are fraudulently registering to vote, and that the battle of Yorktown was won because General George Washington took over the airports, they would quietly move over, quickly get up and, then, run away as fast as their legs could carry them.

    Yet, a large percentage of Americans are still willing, if not anxious, to return this man to the presidency for another four inglorious years. Why is this still a race of any kind?


    Very true (none / 0) (#32)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Jul 18, 2020 at 12:46:49 PM EST
    Very very true

    It is really the most frightens no part IMO.

    Big poll yesterday showed that only 30ish% believed anything he said about Corona virus

    And that same poll said 40ish% supported him.

    Honest to god.  What does that even mean?


    AP (none / 0) (#38)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Jul 18, 2020 at 03:14:49 PM EST
    "It's come to this for Republicans straining to defend their Senate majority in November's elections: They're air-dropping millions of dollars into races in Alabama, Kentucky and other red states where Donald Trump coasted during his 2016 presidential election triumph," the AP reports.



    That orange person (none / 0) (#84)
    by KeysDan on Sun Jul 19, 2020 at 02:06:13 PM EST
    on the park bench. As of today.  "We won two world wars. Beautiful wars..."

    If (none / 0) (#12)
    by FlJoe on Sat Jul 18, 2020 at 08:51:07 AM EST
    and when the Repugs get crushed, the only epiphany they will have is that tRump was never a true conservative. His(and their) incompetence will be brushed aside as a failure of big government.

    Sure they may trade the racial bullhorns back for the traditional whistles but not much else will change.


    That may be (none / 0) (#13)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Jul 18, 2020 at 09:02:27 AM EST
    And that would be something however meaningless.

    I'm not sure that's true.  Because I think the size of the wave is critical.  A small wave that barely gives democrats control of the senate and, for example, leaves Mitch in office, your scenario is possible.  Likely even.

    I do not think that is what's coming.

     Even smart republicans are saying the only thing that can save the party is to be routed crushed and humiliated.

    The stated goal of the Lincoln Project.


    Your optimism is nice (5.00 / 1) (#18)
    by MO Blue on Sat Jul 18, 2020 at 10:32:19 AM EST
    but recent history does not IMO support this premise.

    Substantial Blue Waves occurred in 2006 and 2008 which resulted in the Dems controlling the WH and both chambers of Congress in 2008. The current wisdom at the time was that the Republicans would be defeated for years to come.

    The Republicans stated tactics after their defeat was to obstruct any and all attempts of the Dems to govern. By 2010, the Republicans rode to victory in the House gaining majority control and swept to control in the Senate in 2014.

    The Democratic Party Got Crushed During The Obama Presidency. Here's Why

    When Obama took office, there were 60 Democratic senators; now there are 46. The number of House seats held by Democrats has shrunk from 257 to 188.

    There are now nine fewer Democratic governors than in 2009. Democrats currently hold fewer elected offices nationwide than at any time since the 1920s.

    The last thing the Dems need to do if they regain control is to play the "bipartisanship ship" game which only emboldens the Republicans. They, under no circumstances, should repeat the mistakes of 2020-2016. They need to do everything in their power to make sure that the Republicans stay "crushed."


    I'm not here to defend past (5.00 / 2) (#21)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Jul 18, 2020 at 11:08:02 AM EST
    Liberal spinelessness.   This is what I think is going to happen.

    After the perhaps literal civil war that will be necessary to remove Trump from the White House physically

    I think there will be a wave of progressive legislation unlike anything since the new deal.

    This Secrete Police thing for example.  Horrific.  The thing is I would guess 80% of the country would agree with that.

    And he is JUST getting started.  The more certain his losing becomes the more extreme his behavior will be.  Personally I expect him to star bombing someone.  Anyone if they allow him.  He will do anything.  Anything at all.  And the more crazy he gets the bigger the wave will be.

    Bad days ahead.  Then better ones.

    That's what I believe.  We won't need to wait long to see if I am right.


    ABC today (none / 0) (#28)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Jul 18, 2020 at 12:17:44 PM EST
    Can You Be More Specific? (none / 0) (#20)
    by RickyJim on Sat Jul 18, 2020 at 10:50:27 AM EST
    What should they do instead of "bipartisanship" to make sure that the Republicans will not rise again?  When they passed legislation like the ACA without Republican support they certainly weren't practicing bipartisanship.

    Not answering (5.00 / 1) (#26)
    by Ga6thDem on Sat Jul 18, 2020 at 12:01:04 PM EST
    for MO but I will give you my answer. The problem was that Obama kept begging the GOP to go along which they refused to do. So my answer would be put up popular legislation supported by the majority of Americans and let the GOP vote against it. Let them own what they are doing. Let them have to explain why they voted against reigning in secret police forces. It is leadership 101. Obama sorely lacked leadership skills. I hope Biden has them.

    The Dems spent (5.00 / 1) (#27)
    by MO Blue on Sat Jul 18, 2020 at 12:14:19 PM EST
    well over a year continuing to  weaken  the bill In an effort to get bipartisanship support. In the end, not one Republican voted for the legislation.

    The only result of the wasted time and effort was a weaker healthcare bill. So please don't try to push the meme of Dems not trying for bipartisanship support on ACA.

    What can Dems do? Push through good legislation that actually helps the citizens of this country and if need be, spend every waking hour telling people that they cannot have the things they need because the Republicans vote against them.


    The Republicans were never (5.00 / 3) (#29)
    by MKS on Sat Jul 18, 2020 at 12:28:49 PM EST
    going to support Dems health are legislation.  Never.

    The Dems attempted to get their support by not having a public option--and the GOP still voted against it.

    End the filibuster.  Ram through the legislation the majority supports. Screw the Trump supporting GOP.


    The ACA has taught everyone (none / 0) (#30)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Jul 18, 2020 at 12:34:48 PM EST
    Once you give people benefits it's a lot harder to take them away.   They were honest about the ACA.  They said if we let them have it we will never get rid of it.  They were right.  And it's not they didn't try.

    Kill the filibuster.  Make people's lives better and let them try to take it back.


    And (none / 0) (#25)
    by jmacWA on Sat Jul 18, 2020 at 11:53:52 AM EST
    When they passed legislation like the ACA without Republican support they certainly weren't practicing bipartisanship.

    Oh yeah... the the Republicans were?  Trying to paint the Republicans as non partisan is a hopeless task.


    And BTW (none / 0) (#14)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Jul 18, 2020 at 09:07:24 AM EST
    We should be hoping for an "epiphany" because this country needs two functioning parties that compete for the middle.

    I don't see how the country can continue in our system without that.


    But (5.00 / 1) (#15)
    by jmacWA on Sat Jul 18, 2020 at 09:23:23 AM EST
    We should be hoping for an "epiphany" because this country needs two functioning parties

    I am of the opinion that the country would be better off if the second party contained none of the current Elected or Selected Republicans.


    I think many might be of that opinion (none / 0) (#16)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Jul 18, 2020 at 09:46:50 AM EST
    It's not going to happen.  They are not going to all miraculously die or move to Sweden

    I don't think (none / 0) (#24)
    by Ga6thDem on Sat Jul 18, 2020 at 11:51:33 AM EST
    there will be a third party. What I think is the GOP if it still exists will nominate someone like Cotton who will get routed in a general election. For the next so many years there will be a fight for control.

    Yup. We will be right back to 2008 (none / 0) (#65)
    by ruffian on Sun Jul 19, 2020 at 10:32:47 AM EST
    as far as Republicans go. And they will count that as 'progress'. No one should trust them for a minute after what they have done to this country n the last 4 years.

    John Lewis (5.00 / 1) (#6)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Jul 18, 2020 at 06:52:16 AM EST
    has died

    Great man

    A national tragedy. And personal. (5.00 / 5) (#36)
    by Peter G on Sat Jul 18, 2020 at 02:39:54 PM EST
    My wife and I had the great privilege on April 29, 2007, along without our then-16-yr-old youngest daughter, of picking up Rep. Lewis at the Philadelphia Airport and driving him to give the keynote address for the 75th anniversary of a venerable local civil rights group, for which my wife served as a Board member. That private half hour with him was one of the highlights of my life, on a short list with our wedding, my one argument before the Supreme Court, the births of our children, etc. This morning, we found the photo of him with our daughter snapped on that occasion.

    You have had (5.00 / 1) (#40)
    by Ga6thDem on Sat Jul 18, 2020 at 03:35:42 PM EST
    such fascinating life experiences. You along with Fishcamp should think about writing a book one day.

    Agreed, both of them (5.00 / 4) (#41)
    by Jeralyn on Sat Jul 18, 2020 at 03:43:28 PM EST
    should write their memoirs.

    *along with our ... (none / 0) (#37)
    by Peter G on Sat Jul 18, 2020 at 02:41:21 PM EST
    Of course. Despite proofreading twice.

    Oh my god (none / 0) (#39)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Jul 18, 2020 at 03:17:50 PM EST
    These people

    Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) honored the late Rep. John Lewis (D-GA), who died yesterday, by posting a photo of himself with the late Rep. Elijah Cummings (D-MD), who died late last year, Business Insider reports.

    Rubio may (none / 0) (#43)
    by KeysDan on Sat Jul 18, 2020 at 04:11:04 PM EST
    have to tweet some bible verses about his mix-up.

    Rubio's a real Bozo. (none / 0) (#45)
    by desertswine on Sat Jul 18, 2020 at 04:20:04 PM EST
    Weird (none / 0) (#53)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Jul 18, 2020 at 06:31:53 PM EST
    Democrats in Georgia are mourning the passing of civil rights leader John Lewis, who passed away on Friday.

    But they also have to contend with legal deadlines to fill his seat in Congress and on the ballot.

    "Facing a tight legal deadline, Georgia Democrats are seeking online applications to succeed the late U.S. Rep. John Lewis. The state party said Saturday that potential applicants must complete an application by Sunday evening to be considered for the seat," The Atlanta Journal-Constitution reported Saturday.



    Maybe (none / 0) (#62)
    by Ga6thDem on Sun Jul 19, 2020 at 08:33:17 AM EST
    Stacey Abrams will jump into the fray for this seat. She has said she doesn't want to go to Washington but she would be a shoo in for this seat IMO.  

    That is a great idea. I hope she does. (5.00 / 2) (#66)
    by ruffian on Sun Jul 19, 2020 at 10:33:28 AM EST
    You would think (none / 0) (#77)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Jul 19, 2020 at 01:13:16 PM EST
    If she wanted it they would not be recruiting online.

    That is, I would think, a pretty safe blue district.  I would be surprised if she runs for the House.


    Five finalists (none / 0) (#101)
    by KeysDan on Mon Jul 20, 2020 at 12:29:14 PM EST
    (from 131 applicants) to fill the unexpired term of the late Representative, John Lewis, which ends in Jan 2021.  The state Democratic Committee has until 4:30 today to submit a candidate to the Secretary of State to insure the name on the ballot. The Governor has 10 days to call a special election and 30 days after that for the election.

    The finalists are 1. Park Cannon, a gay State Representative, 2. Andre Dickens,  an Atlanta City Council member, 3. Robert Franklin, an Emory University professor and former president of Morehouse College, 4. Nikema Williams, GA state senator and chair of the state Democratic Party, and 5. James Woodall. Head of GA NAACP.  


    The Republican candidate (none / 0) (#102)
    by KeysDan on Mon Jul 20, 2020 at 12:46:47 PM EST
    Running against the Democratic finalist is Angela Stanton-King, who was pardoned by Trump last February after her 2004 conviction on federal charges involving her role in a car theft ring.  Ms Stanton-King is running on a "pro" right wing platform---pro-Trump, pro-God, pro- life, pro-women, pro-America, and pro-common sense.  I suspect there might be a few "anti's" lurking in that platform as well.

    The only one (none / 0) (#104)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Jul 20, 2020 at 12:55:11 PM EST
    I know is Nikema Williams. She would be a good pick. I am surprised that Lewis's primary opponent was not picked but then he did run against Lewis after all.

    The Democrats (none / 0) (#109)
    by KeysDan on Mon Jul 20, 2020 at 01:50:47 PM EST
    selected  the 41-year old Nikema Williams.  Her husband is a former aide to John Lewis.

    Trump's Secret Police invade Portland (5.00 / 3) (#11)
    by MO Blue on Sat Jul 18, 2020 at 08:36:15 AM EST
    Don't think this action normally just used by dictators is getting enough attention.

    Donald Trump's secret police': Portland fears a federal `occupying army' violating citizens' constitutional rights

    Both of Oregon's U.S. Senators and Two Congressional Reps Want Investigation of Federal Forces in Portland

    In the past week, those federal forces shot one protester in the head with crowd-control munitions and, according to reporting by Oregon Public Broadcasting,  allegedly pulled at least two protesters off the streets into unmarked vehicles.

    Those actions, conducted by forces answerable to Trump rather than local officials, prompted Democratic U.S. Sens. Ron Wyden and Jeff Merkley and U.S. Reps. Earl Blumenauer and Suzanne Bonamici (all from Oregon) to call today for the inspectors general of the U.S. Department of Homeland Security and the U.S. Department of Justice to investigate "the unrequested presence and violent actions of federal forces in Portland."

    Good Luck getting any action against this rogue administration. No way is this acceptable.

    Secret Police Nationwide (5.00 / 1) (#17)
    by MO Blue on Sat Jul 18, 2020 at 10:05:51 AM EST

    Seth Abramson
     · 10h
    MAJOR BREAKING NEWS: DHS Confirms Barr Will Be Deploying His Black Ops Interagency Army Nationwide twitter.com/joshtpm/status...
    Show this thread

    Need to contact Congresscritters. Citizens should demand answers from both Republican and Democratic politicians. Questions to ask: Do you support a Police State and did you take an oath to the Constitution or to a Trump Banana Republic.


    What the feds are doing in Portland (5.00 / 2) (#35)
    by Peter G on Sat Jul 18, 2020 at 02:26:53 PM EST
    is in blatant violation of the Tenth Amendment (the federal government only has those powers specifically enumerated and assigned to it in the Constitution; all other power, such as general policing, lies with the state and local governments) as a policy initiative, and of the Fourth Amendment as it is being implemented against individuals. I hope the lawsuit filed today by the State of Oregon against the feds is making both arguments.

    Here (none / 0) (#23)
    by FlJoe on Sat Jul 18, 2020 at 11:36:23 AM EST
    we go
    Today, Acting Secretary of Homeland Security, Chad F. Wolf, announced the establishment of the DHS Protecting American Communities Task Force (PACT), a special task force to coordinate Departmental law enforcement agency assets in protecting our nation's historic monuments, memorials, statues, and federal facilities.
     Apparently "The Gestapo" was already taken

    Portland my home town. (none / 0) (#34)
    by fishcamp on Sat Jul 18, 2020 at 01:47:39 PM EST
    Glad I'm not home.

    You and me both, fishcamp. (5.00 / 2) (#42)
    by caseyOR on Sat Jul 18, 2020 at 04:07:11 PM EST
    I was talking to a friend in Portland yesterday. She said everyone in the city is on edge. Unmarked cars driven by unmarked men in camo battle dress driving around grabbing people off the street is terrifying. And that's why the feds are doing it.

    They are not grabbing people who are committing crimes or even in the midst of a protest. The unmarked feds are going after people who are walking down the street.

    This will not end well.


    I fear that we are verging on the cusp (none / 0) (#44)
    by desertswine on Sat Jul 18, 2020 at 04:13:35 PM EST
    of a trumpian right-wing takeover.

    A good question would be (none / 0) (#46)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Jul 18, 2020 at 04:23:44 PM EST
    Why are they doing this.  I mean why other than they can.  It's pretty terrible PR.  I don't see how what I've read they have done could possibly even be expected to accomplish anything in any way productive for anyone.  And it has produced a pretty massive backlash.

    So why.

    Maybe they hope to produce a violent response.  A really bad incident.  Something they could use in a commercial.

    Open to other explanations.


    My take come from (5.00 / 3) (#63)
    by KeysDan on Sun Jul 19, 2020 at 09:47:00 AM EST
    Trump's words offered to all in the open: "I am a law and order president".  Republicans are not known for innovation, but Trump apparently feels that this blast from the past has currency.

    Another clue is that its execution is nuts, so we know it came directly from him, with the legal jujitsu of Barr and the muscle of the little green men of Homeland Security.

    The law and order is, of course, to be focused on cities with "weak" (the buzz word) Democratic mayors. Trump's campaign strategy is to secure his deplorable base and back-fill with whatever he can pick-up (e.g. the poorly educated he so loves). As for the base, he realizes that he is losing some of its elderly component--due to his botched handling of the pandemic which affects severely that age group.

    Many elderly seem to be focused on crime and celebrities. Trump gets a two-fer: he shores-up  his celebrity status with them while tackling crime in those "out of control"  Democratic cities with weak mayors.  He believes this is good P.R. for his purposes. Or, he thinks he will make it good.

    Portland is likely to be a pilot project for a scale-up coming soon to your Democratic neighborhood. Atlanta Mayor Bottoms is not only being sued by Governor Kemp over her mask mandate, but also, for an emergency injunction to "restrain" her from issuing her own press releases and speaking to the press about the issue.

     Trump and his henchmen are going full fascist. And, it needs to be called out for what it is. Every newspaper and media outlet should be calling for Trump's immediate resignation. Protests and demonstrations are just what Trump is seeking, so as to burnish his fascism.  And, they do not need to be violent. Trump is desperate and dangerous. This is his death rattle.


    We are trying to help Portland... (5.00 / 2) (#89)
    by desertswine on Sun Jul 19, 2020 at 05:13:44 PM EST
    Donald J. Trump
    We are trying to help Portland, not hurt it. Their leadership has, for months, lost control of the anarchists and agitators. They are missing in action. We must protect Federal property, AND OUR PEOPLE. These were not merely protesters, these are the real deal!

    It would not surprise me to learn that the instigating in Portland is being created by right-wing provocateurs.  But they will blame a phantom Antifa.


    Because persistent protest against police (none / 0) (#92)
    by Peter G on Sun Jul 19, 2020 at 06:37:04 PM EST
    brutality, racism and militarization would not be "real."

    Lincoln Project (none / 0) (#93)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Jul 19, 2020 at 06:53:43 PM EST
    This is how it starts

    There are some comments below about where and how LP is spending money.

    I think they are intentionally working around the edges right now.  The Biden campaign is spending big money on TV.  I think FB and the like is perfect for this stuff right now.  It is definitely not low profile

    Joe Biden is outspending President Trump this month with big TV ad buys in traditional swing states, as Trump focuses on digital ads to shore up his base in what should be Republican strongholds," Axios reports.

    "Biden and affiliated Democrats have outspent Republicans by $4 million in Michigan, $3.5 million in Pennsylvania, $2 million in Arizona and $700,000 in Wisconsin.

    New York, Chicago, Philadelphia.... (none / 0) (#94)
    by desertswine on Sun Jul 19, 2020 at 11:10:50 PM EST
    Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
     - 11 hours ago

    The Radical Left Democrats, who totally control Biden, will destroy our Country as we know it. Unimaginably bad things would happen to America. Look at Portland, where the pols are just fine with 50 days of anarchy. We sent in help. Look at New York, Chicago, Philadelphia. NO!

    Is this a threat?


    Something this week.. (none / 0) (#95)
    by desertswine on Sun Jul 19, 2020 at 11:44:53 PM EST
    President Donald Trump plans to assert new authority this week to dispatch federal law enforcement agents to American cities to quell "unrest," White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows said Sunday on Fox News.

    "Attorney General Barr is weighing in on that with [acting Homeland Security] Secretary [Chad] Wolf, and you'll see something rolled out this week, as we start to go in and make sure that the communities--whether it's Chicago or Portland or Milwaukee or someplace across the heartland of the country--we need to make sure their communities are safe," Meadows said.
       --  Mother Jones

    Keeping communities safe?  What happened to protecting monuments and statues?


    Goon squads coming... (none / 0) (#110)
    by desertswine on Mon Jul 20, 2020 at 03:18:25 PM EST
    The government is expected to send 150 agents to Chicago this week. White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany told Fox News that the Department of Justice and Department of Homeland Security would roll out specific plans of actions on deploying federal resources later in the day.

    I'm going to do something - that, I can tell you," Trump said. "Because we're not going to let New York and Chicago and Philadelphia and Detroit and Baltimore and all of these - Oakland is a mess. We're not going to let this happen in our country. All run by liberal Democrats."


    The way Lori Lightfoot responds (5.00 / 2) (#111)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Jul 20, 2020 at 03:29:45 PM EST
    Is going to be interesting.  She recently had this for Fascist  Barbie.

    After White House Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany called Lightfoot "the derelict mayor of Chicago" in a press briefing, the mayor hit back, tweeting "Hey, Karen. Watch your mouth."

    Dear Donald (none / 0) (#114)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Jul 20, 2020 at 05:51:17 PM EST
    CHICAGO -- Mayor Lori Lightfoot sent a letter to President Donald Trump urging the president not to send "secret federal agents" to Chicago.

    The mayor wrote that she will take the president at his word that he wants to help the fight violence, and asked for a "partner" that respects all Chicago residents "regardless of race, ethnicity, country of origin, religion, sexual orientation or ability."

    "Partnership includes respect that you have not shown our residents as of late in mocking the level of violence that challenges Chicagoans," the mayor wrote. "Please stop the rhetoric."

    Read the full letter below:



    "I have to see" (none / 0) (#64)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Jul 19, 2020 at 09:51:40 AM EST
    AP (none / 0) (#48)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Jul 18, 2020 at 05:11:03 PM EST
    Do (none / 0) (#49)
    by FlJoe on Sat Jul 18, 2020 at 05:25:23 PM EST
    you really think these guys give a fk about PR? Face it, this administration has been a parade of ugly from day one, OR be damned.

    Massive backlash, give me a break. Remember the Russian bounty or the Stone commutation, or further back kids in cages, Charlottesville, Helsinki? I could go on. Sure there was backlash for all those, some even lasted for more than a few days, but none of those really left a mark.

    Cruelty and lawlessness, no matter how counterproductive or petty is the whole point...it will get worse.


    Almost certainly get worse (none / 0) (#50)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Jul 18, 2020 at 05:39:36 PM EST
    I just said that.

    It is an election year.  Most politicians do have some passing interest in PR 5 months before the election.

    And no they do not seem to do that.  That was actually my point.  

    I get how desperate he is to distract from the daily death toll.  I do not think that is the only reason for this.

    Also, snatching people off the street in the middle of the night does seem a notch up from all that other stuff.

    At least to me.  And the backlash is just beginning.  Read the link above from the AP.   That will also get worse.


    Exactly (5.00 / 1) (#54)
    by FlJoe on Sat Jul 18, 2020 at 06:40:07 PM EST
    a notch up, see frog/boiling water.

    Unfortunately this backlash ends up being the filing of lawsuits, writing of letters and demands for further investigations, which even without the inevitable stonewalling will take months if not years. Meanwhile it's up another notch.

    You do point out the really scary part  

    Most politicians do have some passing interest in PR 5 months before the election.
    I know tRump is a total loose cannon, but there seems to be a concerted effort to stoke controversy and division

    The power structure around tRump would rather have a civil war than a free and fair election.


    I don't think they actually want (none / 0) (#55)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Jul 18, 2020 at 06:56:20 PM EST
    A civil war.  That IMO they would certainly lose.  I think they want to talk about it and whip up their mouth breathing fans.

    I think they want a big distraction.  And I think they probably hope to provoke some kind of violent incident that they can screech about on FOX.

    Also the mayor of Portland and the governor are not writing letters.  They are telling Trump to get his storm troops out of their city and state.

    And the AG

    Attorney General Ellen Rosenblum said she would file a lawsuit in federal court against the U.S. Department of Homeland Security

    I do not think we are hapless helpless victims.  Their will be growing push back.


    If (none / 0) (#57)
    by FlJoe on Sat Jul 18, 2020 at 07:34:32 PM EST
    the "they" includes Putin then they do want a civil war, if not a hot one they all certainly want the cold  one you essentially are describing. (The Senate Republicans are mortified,but will do nothing of course)

    They want diversion, they want chaos. Tearing this country apart is their one and only election strategy.

    Bottom line, we see the same thing but I am way more pessimistic about it then you seem to be, but then again we have been thru that before.


    I'm actually pretty pessimistic (none / 0) (#58)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Jul 18, 2020 at 07:55:18 PM EST
    At least in the short term.  As I said.  It's bad.  And it going to get worse.  Maybe a lot worse.  I have no illusions about the lengths to which Trump and his minions will go.

    But they are losing.  By every metric.  They are losing and that is also getting worse.  

    I think Trump might have had a lot more success with his little coup if this virus had not happened.  It has changed the world for him.  At that too sadly is going to get way worse.

    No one believes him.  No one trusts him.  Not even  his supporters.  And that's not going to change.

    Personally I am beginning to believe those who think he won't make it till November.  

    It's getting bad for republicans.  Eventually they will start thinking of saving themselves

    GOP senators sound alarm as coronavirus surges in home states


    What response should there be (none / 0) (#56)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Jul 18, 2020 at 07:00:08 PM EST
    Beyond going to court?

    Well, Tr*mp has proclaimed recently, (none / 0) (#52)
    by Peter G on Sat Jul 18, 2020 at 06:18:20 PM EST
    more than once, that if "Democrat" mayors don't restore order in their streets (i.e., put an end to demonstrations), then he will send in federal officers (troops? police of some sort?) to do it "for them," which will be "easy." I guess Barr and acting DHS sec'y Wolf felt they had to "prove" that he was correct in this. Or were ordered to. Thus, expect a fiasco.

    Phone call to governors, 2Jun.. (none / 0) (#61)
    by desertswine on Sat Jul 18, 2020 at 09:28:02 PM EST
    There's no retribution. So I say that and the word is dominate. If you don't dominate your city and your state, they're gonna walk away with you. And we're doing it in Washington, in DC, we're going to do something that people haven't seen before. But we're going to have total domination. -  Dear Leader

    While we're screwing around about wearing masks or not.  Il Duce is effectively dismantling government and is probably preparing to send his brownshirts to liberal urban centers.

    The Trump administration is trying to block billions of dollars for states to conduct testing and contact tracing in the upcoming coronavirus relief bill, people involved in the talks said Saturday.
    The administration is also trying to block billions of dollars that GOP senators want to allocate for the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, and billions more for the Pentagon and State Department to address the pandemic at home and abroad, the people said.  -- Wash. Post

    I meant to add (none / 0) (#47)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Jul 18, 2020 at 04:37:16 PM EST
    As you suggest it might just be dress rehearsal for martial law.  

    But protecting monuments?  Seems like creating a Secret Police Force is a politically fraught thing if the only point is to scare a few hippies.


    Renaming military bases. (5.00 / 5) (#97)
    by Chuck0 on Mon Jul 20, 2020 at 08:14:52 AM EST
    The orange doofus does not want to change the name of military bases named for traitors and enemy generals. He asked Chris Wallace, "who do we name them for, Al Sharpton?" Well no. But how about they be named for US soldiers and/or generals. You know, the ones that didn't turn on their country and take up arms against it.

    We don't have the Yamamoto US Naval Base anywhere. Or the Herman Goehring US Air Base anywhere either. Why does the US continue to have military installations named for traitors. Men who fought against the United States. It's lunacy. And the current occupant of 1600 PA is a lunatic.

    As to the confederate flags, this is the flag of traitors. It's not much different if Germans were running around Berlin waving Nazi flags. They don't do it, in fact, it is illegal.

    My ancestors fought for the confederacy. There is a gravestone in a cemetery in Brunswick, GA with my name on it. My ancestor who was a Lt. in the CSA Army. But I am an American. I recognize the CSA as a traitorous movement and I don't glorify them.

    The bases will be renamed under Biden (5.00 / 2) (#122)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Jul 20, 2020 at 10:15:41 PM EST
    Nobody we know is even mildly concerned about doing it. It was been a long ago made poor decision that has plagued our military in too many ways for generations. Lots of folks have wanted it done for forever but how would we come upon the will and the energy and the opportunity to do it? And here we are.

    When we took the train from Berlin to Warsaw though, I saw a yard flying several Confederate flags. I didn't understand, but our extended family in Poland explained that Nazis in Germany use our stars and bars crap flag as an identifier there because Nazi flags are illegal.


    So much of this stuff (none / 0) (#98)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Jul 20, 2020 at 09:50:27 AM EST
    Is so obviously intended to force people to think and talk about anything but the pandemic that it's tempting to say talking about it is just what he wants.

    And I suppose that's true but the crazy part is the stuff he wants us to talk about is just as bad.  For him.  

    I can't imagine what it must be like to be staring into the economic abyss millions of people are this morning.  While the senate piddles and diddles and scratch their butts.

    And the only reason it has not happened, maybe not the only but the biggest , is Trump.   It's not just this crazy wrapping himself in the confederate flag.

    He has said he won't sign a bill that does not have a "payroll tax cut".  Because, you know, everyone is worrying about their tax liability right now.  Republicans are freaked out about that.  No one wants it but Trump.  And maybe Rand Paul.

    Incredibly he is openly and actively trying to stop money for testing and tracing.  Republican Senators are freaking out about that.

    The pandemic benefits end this week.  If I was depending on them I would be outraged they waited till the last possible minute even if they pass something

    This is going to be an interesting week.  I think it might be the week we start to see republicans breaking from him.

    Or they can burn with him.  Either way works for me.


    I'm now on my way to Walmart expecting to see at least one showdown between management and a covidiot


    I think (none / 0) (#99)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Jul 20, 2020 at 10:54:51 AM EST
    they will still burn with him. Trump has done so much and yet they have continued to cling tightly.

    Another thing (none / 0) (#100)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Jul 20, 2020 at 12:20:49 PM EST
    This insanity about mail in voting is also freaking republicans out.

    For good reason.  More republicans usually vote by mail.
    You could be forgiven for thinking he is trying to sabotage the Republican Party.


    The Trumpers (none / 0) (#103)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Jul 20, 2020 at 12:53:25 PM EST
    screaming about how voting by mail is cheating has been making me laugh. Not only are they going to lose votes because of absentee but they are going to lose votes because their voters are going to be forced to go to the polling places and how many of them will be too sick in November?

    Trump as (none / 0) (#105)
    by Zorba on Mon Jul 20, 2020 at 12:59:32 PM EST
    The Manchurian Candidate.

    Trump (none / 0) (#118)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Jul 20, 2020 at 08:10:36 PM EST
    and the Republicans

    Trump and Republicans divided on key pieces of coronavirus relief
    GOP senators are strongly resisting Trump's demand for a payroll tax cut.

    Senate Republicans are also pushing for tens of billions of dollars in funding for testing for the states and additional funds for the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, in addition to spending boosts for the State Department and Pentagon -- money that the White House so far has resisted including in the new package.

    Masking (none / 0) (#121)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Jul 20, 2020 at 09:16:51 PM EST
    I was very pleased to be wrong.  No conflict to see.  Everyone masked.

    I was very surprised to see nearly 100% masked everywhere inside and out.   Did not expect that.

    Very very different from my last trip out in the world.


    Political advertising. (5.00 / 1) (#125)
    by Chuck0 on Tue Jul 21, 2020 at 09:26:38 AM EST
    Orange doofus is selling nothing but fear. No one answering 911, your children will be shot in the streets if Joe Biden wins, etc.

    Lately I've seen Biden commercials where they don't even use the orange doofus' name. The ads talk about leadership and righting the ship.

    Interestingly, the only commercial I've seen on TV for my congressional district is from the incumbent Scott Perry. I loathe this guy. He has, in the past, been a right winger thug. Now, suddenly he is running TV commercials touting his bi-partisanship in dealing with COVID-19. All touchy feely and "working across the aisle." I hope this is a sign that they are running scared. I am looking forward to Eugene DiPasquale becoming my congressman.

    Truly rich (none / 0) (#127)
    by jmacWA on Tue Jul 21, 2020 at 10:35:20 AM EST
    touting his bi-partisanship

    A GOP member touting his bipartisanship means he didn't vote to impeach Obama... never mind that Obama was never impeached, the fact that he wasn't and Perry didn't vote for it shows it.


    Today is the day (5.00 / 2) (#138)
    by KeysDan on Tue Jul 21, 2020 at 05:30:41 PM EST
    Trump became president.  It is OK to wear masks, as he has always, always said.  Believe me.

    Had to switch channels when Ari Melber started to echo that line--- Trump was not alone at the podium even though he was alone, he was with Dr. Fauci and the CDC.

     No thought to his polls.  It's one of those presidential pivots, a catastrophe too late.

    Ivanka, or someone, had his meds well-titrated, but his calm Trump.is scarier than his raging and ranting Trump.  Of course, as soon as he went off script, he reverted-- the virus will disappear per the usual.  And, as the Captain reported, he wished Ghislaine Maxwell well.  Or, was it he wished the virus well and Ghislaine will disappear.  One or the other, can't recall.

    I almost can't watch (5.00 / 2) (#139)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jul 21, 2020 at 05:34:35 PM EST
    Ari Melber

    Lucid dreaming and isolation (5.00 / 1) (#193)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jul 23, 2020 at 02:29:15 PM EST
    Mentioned lucid dreaming before and heard it was weird.

    I don't think it's really that weird.

    Many lucid dreamers greatly enjoy the experience, particularly in the third of cases where they experience some control over the dream's direction. Just over half of Aspy's participants had lucid dreamed before, and were keen to learn to do it more frequently.

    However, Aspy says the benefits go deeper. Many lucid dreamers describe using their dreams to solve problems that defeat them when awake, or practice for challenging situations.

    I F'ing Love Science

    Expedited (none / 0) (#1)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jul 17, 2020 at 06:32:51 PM EST
    The U.S. Supreme Court put a clash over a grand jury subpoena for President Donald Trump's financial records on a fast track, formally returning it to the appeals court level ahead of schedule," Bloomberg reports.

    "Manhattan District Attorney Cyrus Vance had asked the justices not to wait 25-plus days, as they normally do after issuing an opinion.


    I flagged this procedural issue (none / 0) (#3)
    by Peter G on Fri Jul 17, 2020 at 07:20:20 PM EST
    MLB non-gratis (none / 0) (#51)
    by Natal on Sat Jul 18, 2020 at 06:04:13 PM EST
    in Toronto due to covid-19 risks from US.  Blue Jays playing most likely Buffalo.  Players reluctant to setup in Florida.

    Mary L. Trump - Too Much and Never Enough (none / 0) (#59)
    by RickyJim on Sat Jul 18, 2020 at 08:01:24 PM EST
    How my family created the world's most dangerous man.  I finished listening to the author read this book yesterday.  It is only about a third the length of the recent Bolton memoir which I also reviewed here.  I am afraid it isn't much better.  Do we really need to be told that Trump is a lying, narcissistic SOB?  The main claim is Donald got that way because his father Fred had the same characteristics.  While Bolton's book had a generous picture section, Mary's only had one of a young Donald on the cover and a young Mary in the About the Author section.  However, the latter has an excellent index in the PDF version so it is easy to check details.  

    What I really would like to see is a serious book explaining Donald's talents in conning people during his business and political career. Such abilities are thankfully not common at all.
    Most people would be slapped down immediately if they tried any of it.

    The settlement of Fred Trump's estate where his 4 surviving children got hundreds of millions while the two children of the late Fred Jr (Freddy) were shut out, has been previously reported.  Those two children Mary L and Fritz are, according to some news reports, feuding over the book.  Fritz says Mary L has violated a non disclosure agreement they both had to sign to get something from the old man's estate.  But since we never are told in the book, exactly what they got, maybe it really hasn't been violated.  Fritz may be mad because Mary reported on how Donald and the others originally cut off medical treatment for Fritz's son who was born with cerebral palsy.  Apparently they are now giving help and that whole business was supposed to stay confidential.

    Mary gives very little information about herself as an adult.  She has PHD in Psychology as does a cousin David Desmond Jr, Judge Maryanne Trump Barry's son from her first marriage.  I would be curious to see if some reporter can get him to comment on her cousin's book.  Mary mentions in a few places that she raised a daughter after a same sex marriage, that she seems to have kept hidden from the family, ended in divorce.

    I keep telling myself, "No more Trump books,  You have so much more important stuff on your bucket list to read." Well we will see.

    Despite my huge list of (5.00 / 1) (#68)
    by ruffian on Sun Jul 19, 2020 at 10:42:23 AM EST
    book to read, I listened to the audiobook of this. In some ways it was not new information, but hearing the family dynamics  from her perspective was fascinating to me.  I am always interested in such things - my own wacked out family also drove me to a degree in psychology.

    In some ways the book was basically like a wine and whine session with my girlfriends where we dissect Trumps psyche and political horrors in minute detail. She does not have the 'reporter's filter' at all that you get from a lot of the articles and books.  She is a little more authoritative on the subject then your average smart experienced woman, because I assume she got a lot of details of the early years from her aunt.

    I can't comment of whatever legal issues she has and I hope her brothers' family is not retaliated against, but he should have figured out a long time ago that any support he gets from he family can be ripped away at any time for any reason. He undoubtedly got more money int he settle meant than any of us will ever see, so if he did not use it to make sure his son is taken care of, I don't know what to say.


    It has haunted me how I struggle at times to understand Trump. The book has fixed that for me. I know who he is in my foo now LOL. I know who his dad and his mom are too. He has been demystified for me. I owe Mary Trump a debt.

    Actually (none / 0) (#71)
    by FlJoe on Sun Jul 19, 2020 at 11:44:13 AM EST
    yes we do  
    Do we really need to be told that Trump is a lying, narcissistic SOB?
    Maybe you are willing to brush it aside as unimportant or old news, but it should be shouted from the rooftops day and night until him and his enablers(including people willing to brush away his obvious flaws) are driven from power.
    What I really would like to see is a serious book explaining Donald's talents in conning people during his business and political career.
    Maybe the real question is why anybody thinks he had any "talent" in the first place.

    You don't think Trump (none / 0) (#74)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Jul 19, 2020 at 12:56:44 PM EST
    Has a talent for conning people?

    I have to disagree


    Not (none / 0) (#78)
    by FlJoe on Sun Jul 19, 2020 at 01:29:50 PM EST
    really, his cons were crass and clumsy his "success" was achieved by the idiot media doing most of the heavy lifting. It's easy to con idiots.

    The Wall - Lincoln Project (none / 0) (#60)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Jul 18, 2020 at 08:37:22 PM EST
    IMO (none / 0) (#72)
    by FlJoe on Sun Jul 19, 2020 at 12:09:15 PM EST
    every Democratic PAC should fire their media shops and syndicate these gems.

    BTW: What happened to Bloomberg, wasn't he going to drop some big money into taking down tRump? Not a peep from him that I know of.


    He dropped 18 million (none / 0) (#73)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Jul 19, 2020 at 12:55:14 PM EST
    A month or so ago.  I'm sure there is more where that came from.

    Democrats are smashing fundraising records and out raising republicans everywhere.  Including  Biden.  

    I don't think money is our biggest worry.


    Some (none / 0) (#79)
    by FlJoe on Sun Jul 19, 2020 at 01:41:08 PM EST
    would argue that dumping 18 million on the DNC is not the best use of money. He is apparently ditching his independent efforts. Kind of a shame because I thought his ad campaign was top notch.

    I believe he offered and they were not interested (none / 0) (#80)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Jul 19, 2020 at 01:49:41 PM EST
    There was a whole drama after the primary.

    Also declining the service of Hawkfish his digital operation.

    Former New York Mayor Mike Bloomberg has decided against creating a super PAC that was expected to spend unlimited sums to take on President Trump and instead is transferring $18 million to the Democratic National Committee.

    "While we considered creating our own independent entity to support the nominee and hold the president accountable, this race is too important to have many competing groups with good intentions but that are not coordinated and united in strategy and execution," Bloomberg's team wrote in a memo to Tom Perez, the chairman of the DNC.

    As it turns out it does not look like it's going to matter.  And I'm pretty sure if his deep pockets were needed he would be there.


    The LP is doing fine (none / 0) (#76)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Jul 19, 2020 at 01:05:05 PM EST
    The (none / 0) (#81)
    by FlJoe on Sun Jul 19, 2020 at 01:50:45 PM EST
    problem seems to be they are not exactly spreading the word far and wide
    As far as spending goes, the Lincoln Project is hardly blitzing the nation with those ads. Since the group launched, the group has spent $2.75 million on TV ads, as well as another $1.2 million on Facebook ads -- far short of the tens of millions some larger super PACs have planned for 2020.

    It's july (none / 0) (#82)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Jul 19, 2020 at 01:53:38 PM EST
    Facebook (none / 0) (#90)
    by Ga6thDem on Sun Jul 19, 2020 at 06:08:20 PM EST
    is where all the Trumpers hang out. So LP spending money there is probably a good thing.

    Do Progressives Have a Free Speech Problem? (none / 0) (#67)
    by RickyJim on Sun Jul 19, 2020 at 10:38:07 AM EST
    One of the more egregious recent examples of left-wing illiberalism is the firing of David Shor, a data analyst at the progressive consulting firm Civis Analytics. Amid the protests over Floyd's killing, Shor was called out online for tweeting about work by Omar Wasow, an assistant professor of politics at Princeton, that shows a link between violent protest in the 1960s and Richard Nixon's vote share.

    Shor was accused of "anti-Blackness" for seeming to suggest, via Wasow's research, that violent protest is counterproductive. (Wasow is Black.) "At least some employees and clients of Civis Analytics complained that Shor's tweet threatened their safety," reported New York Magazine's Jonathan Chait. After an internal review, Shor was let go; he was also kicked off a progressive industry listserv.

    Civis has denied that Shor was fired for a tweet, but an employee told The Atlantic's Yascha Mounk that the company's chief executive said, in a staff meeting, "something along the lines of freedom of speech is important, but he had to take a stand with our staff, clients, and people of color."


    Where does left wing liberalism come in here? (5.00 / 1) (#69)
    by ruffian on Sun Jul 19, 2020 at 10:45:31 AM EST
    The Atlantic is hardly left wing, nor are most black Americans.

    Also, from Ms Goldberg's same (none / 0) (#70)
    by KeysDan on Sun Jul 19, 2020 at 11:18:45 AM EST
    article.   "Surely one reason this episode has been invoked so often is that there aren't many comparable examples of such obvious social injustice overreach."  NYTimes, Sunday, July 19, 2020.

    This seems weird (none / 0) (#75)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Jul 19, 2020 at 01:02:23 PM EST
    I guess I have to take our bowl (none / 0) (#106)
    by Zorba on Mon Jul 20, 2020 at 01:01:28 PM EST
    Of change in to the bank and ask what they'll give me for it.

    No longer having networks (none / 0) (#83)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Jul 19, 2020 at 02:05:50 PM EST
    Spared me from having to watch Trumps FOX news Sunday interview.  But boy, it was apparently something.  Chris Wallace did better than you would expect.  It's being described as "testy".  At one point he said, "I don't believe I'm fake news"

    Could not find the full interview but the greatest hits are being played non stop on CNN and MSNBC.  


    Link is broken (none / 0) (#85)
    by Ga6thDem on Sun Jul 19, 2020 at 03:57:57 PM EST

    Not for me (none / 0) (#86)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Jul 19, 2020 at 04:04:41 PM EST

    When I first saw your comment (none / 0) (#87)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Jul 19, 2020 at 04:22:14 PM EST
    I clicked the link and it worked.   And I checked it worked before I hit post.

    I just tried again and it did not.

    Who knows.  Maybe they decided it was fake news

    Here's another

    The `best' Trump interview yet? Fox News host Chris Wallace cheered -- and also blasted -- for his grilling of the president


    Wallace (none / 0) (#91)
    by Ga6thDem on Sun Jul 19, 2020 at 06:27:29 PM EST
    actually did a decent job. What I should say is he did his job. This is what all the journalists should be doing 24/7. When Trump lies stop him right there. He can't handle it.

    My theory (none / 0) (#107)
    by Zorba on Mon Jul 20, 2020 at 01:03:42 PM EST
    Is that his deceased dad Mike Wallace visited him, smacked him upside the head, and told him to start acting like an actual journalist.

    The Alienist (none / 0) (#88)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Jul 19, 2020 at 05:12:18 PM EST
    Hillary and Biden (none / 0) (#96)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Jul 20, 2020 at 08:01:00 AM EST
    Will appear on Joy Reid's new show at 7 eastern on MSNBC.

    That's a great kickoff. (none / 0) (#108)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Mon Jul 20, 2020 at 01:35:20 PM EST
    Joy Reid has been such a trooper for MSNBC, pinch-hitting for hosts whenever needed in addition to hosting her own weekend show, so I think it's awesome that network management's finally inserted her into the prime-time starting lineup. Unfortunately for me, she'll be  airing right in the middle of my workday at 1:00 p.m. HST, so I'll instead have to catch portions of her show online.

    Just watching Joe (5.00 / 1) (#115)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Jul 20, 2020 at 06:14:18 PM EST
    He Is surprisingly good.  Definitely "on" tonight.

    The comparison to Trump is pretty stark.


    Hillary is great of course (5.00 / 1) (#116)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Jul 20, 2020 at 06:23:39 PM EST
    I wonder if she would be SoS again.

    Cleaning up the mess Pompeo has made will take some juice.


    Biden will (5.00 / 1) (#119)
    by KeysDan on Mon Jul 20, 2020 at 08:59:49 PM EST
    be looking for some new.faces in the administration, but he is going to need some experienced hands, at least for the first year or so.   The thought of Hillary as SOS also occurred to me as I watched her great interview.

    She just sounded (5.00 / 1) (#120)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Jul 20, 2020 at 09:02:52 PM EST
    Like a Secretary of State

    Lincoln Project after Trump (none / 0) (#112)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Jul 20, 2020 at 03:50:36 PM EST

    In an interview with the Washington Post's Greg Sargent, one of the founders of the Never-Trumper Lincoln Project said he is personally seeking "atonement" for some of the Republicans he once helped into office, and that the group is making plans to eliminate all traces of Trumpism once the president is gone.

    Lumped in with those "traces" are the GOP lawmakers who have enabled the president.

    I believe that (5.00 / 1) (#113)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Jul 20, 2020 at 05:14:27 PM EST
    is John Weaver and I have thought for quite a while now he has had a change of heart. Some of the others like Rick Wilson will probably go right back to the GOP.

    They will (none / 0) (#124)
    by Militarytracy on Mon Jul 20, 2020 at 10:24:44 PM EST
    Fortunately (none / 0) (#128)
    by FlJoe on Tue Jul 21, 2020 at 12:03:02 PM EST
    barring a disaster, the GOP are going to be seriously fractured
    A meeting between House Republicans on Tuesday reportedly got "heated" after several hardline conservatives went after Rep. Liz Cheney (R-WY) for her occasional criticisms of President Donald Trump.

    Sources tell Politico reporter Melanie Zanona that Reps. Matt Gaetz (R-FL), Thomas Massie (R-KY), Chip Roy (R-TX), Louie Gohmert (R-TX), Andy Biggs (R-AZ), and Jim Jordan (R-OH) all took turns calling out Cheney for assorted disagreements.

    The spawn of the devil against six morons, it hardly seems fair.

    Best part (none / 0) (#130)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jul 21, 2020 at 01:33:35 PM EST
    Rep. Andy Biggs (R-AZ), the head of the Freedom Caucus, even accused Cheney of undermining the GOP's ability to win back the House and said that if someone has a problem with Trump, they should keep it to themselves.

    Make (none / 0) (#149)
    by FlJoe on Wed Jul 22, 2020 at 09:29:03 AM EST
    that seven
    Sen. Rand Paul, a long-time critic of Rep. Liz Cheney, joined the conservative pile-on of the Wyoming Republican, saying on Wednesday: "I don't think she's good for the country" and accused her of trying to "sabotage" President Donald Trump's foreign policy.

    This is the Fort Sumter (none / 0) (#150)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Jul 22, 2020 at 09:44:36 AM EST
    of the battle for the Republican Party post Trump.

    Liz is very smart to do this IMO.  

    I think her side will win.  


    Correct (5.00 / 1) (#154)
    by FlJoe on Wed Jul 22, 2020 at 11:38:00 AM EST
    IMO she will battle with Cotton for dominance in the neo-con wing of the party, some anti-tRump cred will help lure the never-tRumpers and other lapsed repugs to her.

    I expect Romney to hold the squishy middle/"big business uber alles" crowd. He also has cred with his impeachment vote and his less than impressive string of furrowed brows.

    As to the remaining tRump cult, who the heck knows who will step up?


    Oh sure. Federalist Society to Mitch: (none / 0) (#117)
    by oculus on Mon Jul 20, 2020 at 07:28:06 PM EST
    Kings ex on all the judges.

    did you see the Colbert show's (none / 0) (#126)
    by leap on Tue Jul 21, 2020 at 09:51:44 AM EST
    interview with Rick Wilson by animation characters? Colbert gets it. He doesn't trust the Lincoln Project people, either. Look how LP spends their donated monies, too. Just keep in mind, these people are damned Republicans, and mostly people from the WBush Error who never paid the penalty for their evils. As soon as the Dims gain power, they'll be doing this $h!† to the Dims. And the Dims will just try to get along, by-gones be by-gones. Ugh.

    Watching Biden now (none / 0) (#129)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jul 21, 2020 at 01:20:07 PM EST
    I have to say, he really might be better at this than I have given him credit for.

    Maybe it's just that he sounds so real when he talks about family and illness and the stuff that requires empathy.

    Maybe my bar has been lowered by Trump but I was impressed with the speech.

    NPR (none / 0) (#131)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jul 21, 2020 at 01:57:30 PM EST
    Concerned (none / 0) (#132)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jul 21, 2020 at 03:46:40 PM EST
    YEsper is concerned


    Defense Secretary Mark Esper has raised concerns within the administration about federal agents patrolling the streets of U.S. cities in camouflage uniforms similar to those worn by troops in war zones, his spokesperson said Tuesday.

    Yesper (5.00 / 1) (#133)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jul 21, 2020 at 03:50:54 PM EST
    We are nearing (none / 0) (#134)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue Jul 21, 2020 at 04:29:03 PM EST
    the end of this dark tunnel hopefully. At this point I am only surprised if they do something right. I have come to expect the worst from everybody in the Trump administration.

    182 days to Jan 20, 2021 (none / 0) (#141)
    by Chuck0 on Tue Jul 21, 2020 at 06:06:35 PM EST
    103 days (none / 0) (#144)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed Jul 22, 2020 at 06:26:23 AM EST
    until the election. Mary Trump says if Donald loses bad enough that he will not hang around the oval office being a "loser". So lets work on shortening the number of days.

    Interestingly Trump I think it was said that he would not be going to the inaugural if Biden wins.


    George Will (none / 0) (#145)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Jul 22, 2020 at 06:54:55 AM EST
    Last night predicted it will be a big enough loss that we will not have to wait for mail in ballots.  That we would know by midnight eastern time on Nov 3rd Biden has won.

    I have been thinking the same thing.


    What a coincidence. I am concerned (none / 0) (#135)
    by Peter G on Tue Jul 21, 2020 at 04:45:36 PM EST
    about that also.

    Mr President..... (none / 0) (#136)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jul 21, 2020 at 05:02:07 PM EST
    ...you need to show compassion.

    Yeah, ok.  Got it.

    "I just wish her well."

    -- President Trump, quoted by Reuters, when asked about Ghislaine Maxwell, who prosecutors say conspired to entice girls as young as 14 to engage in illegal sex acts with Jeffrey Epstein.

    I think this (none / 0) (#140)
    by KeysDan on Tue Jul 21, 2020 at 06:01:40 PM EST
    "Compassion" is really a preparation for an eventual pardon or commutation  when sentenced.  As with Roger Stone, the.hints are rolled out so that when it happens, everyone says, well we knew that was coming.  Just normalized.

    Given her line of work (5.00 / 1) (#142)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jul 21, 2020 at 06:08:33 PM EST
    I would say she might have way better stuff on Donald than Stone.

    Good point being made is (5.00 / 1) (#146)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Jul 22, 2020 at 07:11:56 AM EST
    When have you - ever - heard Trump wish a woman well that was not his wife of daughter.

    Yes, Trump (none / 0) (#151)
    by KeysDan on Wed Jul 22, 2020 at 10:31:11 AM EST
    was sending a message to Ghislaine---don't spill the (Goya) beans and you will be taken care of with a pardon on my way out the door.

    Hoooold on to your butts (none / 0) (#137)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jul 21, 2020 at 05:23:57 PM EST
    6 weeks

    The first absentee ballots will be sent out in North Carolina starting on Sept. 4. Voters in Pennsylvania will be able to request, fill out and turn in absentee ballots in person starting on Sept. 14, followed by voters in Michigan on Sept. 19.

    Teeny cracks (none / 0) (#143)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jul 21, 2020 at 09:10:54 PM EST
    I love she think that makes it ok.  
    I mean, you know, of course I would not have supported him if I was running for reelection

    Sen. Susan Collins (R-ME) declined last week to back President Trump for reelection, saying she would focus on her own race while suggesting that she only picked sides in 2016 because she was not on the ballot, CNN reports.

    Said Collins: "I was not up for reelection. I didn't have my own race to worry about at that point."

    Those evil devious republicans of Lincoln Project (none / 0) (#147)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Jul 22, 2020 at 07:18:34 AM EST
    A little news (none / 0) (#148)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Jul 22, 2020 at 08:20:04 AM EST
    We are told the "corona virus briefing" today will not be about Corona virus.  It will instead be a discussion of

    "OPERATION LEGEND - Combating Violent Crime In American Cities"

    Might be worth hearing.

    Trump appears to be (5.00 / 1) (#152)
    by KeysDan on Wed Jul 22, 2020 at 10:45:46 AM EST
    taking a page from the Nazi playbook---Ernst Rohm's Brownshirts or Stormtroopers (paramilitary bully boys) provoked violence among demonstrations resulting in the claim that the Weimar Republic was weak and could not maintain law and order.  Only Hitler could keep the peace.

    I can't believe (5.00 / 1) (#155)
    by MO Blue on Wed Jul 22, 2020 at 01:30:19 PM EST
    that they think  beating and gasping protesters who proudly proclaim they are mothers is good political strategy.

    Their federal goons are no longer just attacking black and brown people. They are attacking a large group of women, consisting of a large segment of white women,  whose great offense is singing.

    Can they really believe that this works for them. I'm old and not in good health but if they send these Storm Troupers here, I will join the protest line. Already wrote my Republican Senators on how unacceptable this is. Told them their silence indicates their consent.  Plan to keep up the letters about their stupidity in turning this country into a Banana Republic. .


    They beat (5.00 / 1) (#159)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed Jul 22, 2020 at 03:00:38 PM EST
    a Navy veteran and a graduate of Annapolis the other day. I can't imagine this is good PR either but maybe it's not about PR. It's about instilling fear in the populace.

    Doesn't look like FEAR (none / 0) (#160)
    by MO Blue on Wed Jul 22, 2020 at 03:21:25 PM EST
    is the end result of the Storm Trouper tactics in Portland.

    The the number and diversity of the protesters continue to expand. Mothers singing cannot be creditably depicted as a destructive mob and the violence being used against them and the courageous vet just highlights the complete wrongness of Trump's attacks on the citizens of this country. The Fed militarized forces are clearly looking like the terrorists that they are.  


    Yes, and the Navy (none / 0) (#162)
    by KeysDan on Wed Jul 22, 2020 at 04:20:55 PM EST
    veteran sustained broken bones.

    And, at Trump's today's coronavirus presentation which will not discuss coronavirus, he will announce sending in stormtroopers to more cities.  

    Apparently, Trump has determined that the Portland pilot project is a great success and should be expanded.  Of course, Trump will continue until he gets the violent confrontation he is seeking. He is clearly looking for a civil war.

    I am wondering if demonstrations should be called off, to the extent possible, for the next three months unless they are in the form of a national strike; "pocket protests" or city-by-city demonstrations are just what Trump and his thugs are looking for so as to effect his coup and be the savior of law and order.

     Points have been made, and the only real issue remaining is to kick Trump out. Trump is ineffective when the fight is not on his terms.  Biden's measured campaign is working and Trump is befuddled.

    Maybe, all the efforts and energy of concerned Americans should be put into voter registration and getting out the vote.


    Should be (none / 0) (#156)
    by MO Blue on Wed Jul 22, 2020 at 01:31:35 PM EST
    "beating and gassing"

    I am so proud of the people of Portland -- (5.00 / 2) (#158)
    by Peter G on Wed Jul 22, 2020 at 02:45:32 PM EST
    especially the "wall of mothers" (a tactic that is both brilliant and brave) -- pushing back nonviolently and apparently effectively against this Administration's fascist tactics.

    We are heading towards no election. (none / 0) (#157)
    by desertswine on Wed Jul 22, 2020 at 02:22:01 PM EST
    Watch for him to say (none / 0) (#153)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Jul 22, 2020 at 11:12:56 AM EST
    They will be providing security at polling stations.

    St. Louis County, MO (none / 0) (#161)
    by MO Blue on Wed Jul 22, 2020 at 03:46:29 PM EST
    has developed a downloadable sign for businesses to require masks. No masks.  No service

    face covering required

    Clearly states: Those who do not comply with the Public Health Order SHALL(my emphasis) be denied service or entry and will be asked to leave the premises until properly masked.

    Joe names it (none / 0) (#163)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Jul 22, 2020 at 05:21:53 PM EST
    Joe Biden called President Trump the country's first racist to be elected to the White House, the Washington Post reports.

    Said Biden: "No sitting president has ever done this. Never, never, never. No Republican president has done this. No Democratic president. We've had racists, and they've existed, they've tried to get elected president. He's the first one that has."

    As obvious as it is it's a kind of remarkable thing for one presidential candidate to say about another.

    At least Tr*mp won't be able to call Biden out (5.00 / 1) (#171)
    by Peter G on Wed Jul 22, 2020 at 06:43:27 PM EST
    on what a historically ignorant comment that is. First openly racist candidate to be elected president? Ridiculous:  Andrew Jackson, Rutherford B. Hayes, Woodrow Wilson, at a minimum, come immediately to mind. When was the first openly *non*racist candidate (or anti-racist) elected? Teddy Roosevelt, arguably. Truman, perhaps? LBJ, in his own way. What a silly remark.

    I'm not the first racist! (5.00 / 1) (#172)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Jul 22, 2020 at 06:54:13 PM EST
    There have been plenty.

    Doesn't seem like a good argument.


    What do you think about this? (none / 0) (#173)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Jul 22, 2020 at 07:07:31 PM EST
    I think the reporter for Politico (5.00 / 1) (#174)
    by Peter G on Wed Jul 22, 2020 at 07:21:22 PM EST
    should know the difference between "disbursement" and "dispersal."  As for the bar complaint, it is political posturing. Not that I disagree with what they say.

    I would (none / 0) (#164)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed Jul 22, 2020 at 05:36:19 PM EST
    qualify that with openly racist because others certainly have been racists. As long as it works I guess it doesn't matter.

    Openly and (none / 0) (#175)
    by KeysDan on Wed Jul 22, 2020 at 08:59:54 PM EST
    proudly racist.

    Someone (none / 0) (#165)
    by FlJoe on Wed Jul 22, 2020 at 05:37:36 PM EST
    called Trump a "race-baiting xenophobic bigot" last cycle. Pretty harsh, but all is forgiven, now they are golfing buddies.

    Did Hillary actually (none / 0) (#166)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Jul 22, 2020 at 05:44:49 PM EST
    call him a racist ?

    I really don't remember it stated that plainly.  But I don't doubt it.  Quotes are not necessary.

    Also the comment you mention was a Republican.  They say a lot of nasty shi+.  

    Democrats don't generally do that.


    As (none / 0) (#169)
    by FlJoe on Wed Jul 22, 2020 at 06:03:26 PM EST
    far as I remember Hillary never called him racist, hell she was pilloried endlessly for using the word deplorable.

    Of course it was Lindsey Graham, but it does set a recent precedent and the fact that it's was his own party almost gives it more force.

    Turning some of that nasty sh!t right back on them is more than fair game, but you are right it is pretty bold for a Democrat.


    Does Anybody Think Biden Believes That? (none / 0) (#183)
    by RickyJim on Thu Jul 23, 2020 at 11:01:37 AM EST
    Unfortunately, that probably won't be the last really ignorant thing Biden will say during the campaign.  As usual, we will have the choice to pick the least bad candidate this November.  The bizarre way that choice is determined has as little chance of changing soon as does the bizarre doings of the adversary system in courtrooms.

    So my paranormal is working today (none / 0) (#167)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Jul 22, 2020 at 05:49:38 PM EST
    I'm wondering, ok, these goons are being sent to states run by democrats.  

    Governors control the state national guard right?  I wonder what would happen if a democratic governor called out the state national guard to protect demonstrators from federal troops.

    Ha (none / 0) (#168)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Jul 22, 2020 at 05:50:50 PM EST
    That too

    But I meant PARANOIA


    Paranormal (none / 0) (#170)
    by FlJoe on Wed Jul 22, 2020 at 06:13:33 PM EST
    Paranoia; tRump calls up the ghosts of Robert E Lee and his band of traitors to raise the rebel flag over those dirty Yankee cities.

    Happy ending though, The Ghostbusters show up and save the day.

    I'm working on the script right now, I tell you it could be made into a monster.


    Here comes Hurricane Douglas. (none / 0) (#176)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Thu Jul 23, 2020 at 02:22:41 AM EST
    It's presently a Category 2 storm but is expected to strengthen tomorrow into a Category 3. And unless and until it changes course, it will pass directly over Hilo and the Big Island on Sunday.

    Why not a hurricane?

    I just called the county clerk (none / 0) (#177)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jul 23, 2020 at 08:04:49 AM EST
    About voting by mail.  I did not know what to expect since there has been no discussion I know of about voting by mail because of corona virus but I was very honest.

    She said anyone who wants to vote by mail is being allowed to do so.  I think they may intentionally be trying to do it quietly so no one tries to stop it.

    She said on the app there are three choices

    You can't be there

    You can't be there for health reasons

    You are in an extended care facility.

    She said most people pick one of the first two and they are not questioned.

    I'm telling everyone I know.

    It could be county by county (none / 0) (#178)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jul 23, 2020 at 09:28:42 AM EST
    I just spoke to a friend who lives in another county, less than a mile away, who said the clerk gave the same information without mentioning the fact nobody is checking or really cares if you are being completely honest.

    It's just interesting because his county, though close, is quite different than mine.  I know that because I lived there until I moved here.

    It is older.  Less educated.  Lower population.  This area, my county,  has lots of out of state retirees.   More money, education and entitlement.  I can see why my county clerk, an elected position, might be more inclined to voting tolerance than the one in the next county.

    But I told my friend I still doubt if anyone checks to see if you are really sick or away.

    They are giving no then to anyone who wants one but they might be required to do that.


    That sounds more like an absentee ballot (none / 0) (#179)
    by Peter G on Thu Jul 23, 2020 at 09:43:01 AM EST
    than true "vote by mail." An absentee voting law, as exists everywhere, typically requires an excuse. In PA, however, we now have "no excuse absentee voting," which does sound like "vote by mail" under another name, even though vote-by-mail, per se, did not pass.

    Sorry. Yes (none / 0) (#180)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jul 23, 2020 at 10:11:36 AM EST
    THats exactly what it is.  I voted absentee when I lived in many places.

    The point I meant to make is we DO NOT have no excuse absentee voting.

    But my county clerk at least is personally transforming it to no excuse absentee voting.  She almost literally said that.  I was surprised.  As I said I had no idea what to expect when I called.  But I was very clear I just wanted to vote by mail.

    She told me how.


    I recommend that you do not give (5.00 / 1) (#184)
    by Peter G on Thu Jul 23, 2020 at 11:10:13 AM EST
    a reason that is false. That would, after all, actually be voter fraud. And do not urge anyone else to lie on their absentee ballot application for that matter. Just a little free legal advice.

    Got it (none / 0) (#187)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jul 23, 2020 at 11:22:34 AM EST

    I suppose a day trip (none / 0) (#192)
    by Chuck0 on Thu Jul 23, 2020 at 02:00:11 PM EST
    to another county or even town, would qualify as "away."

    Absentee balloting (5.00 / 1) (#186)
    by KeysDan on Thu Jul 23, 2020 at 11:21:48 AM EST
    that requires a reason may be among Trump's election result challenges on the basis of perjured voting.  Not that the excuses could or would ever be proved to be untrue, but a threat before Election Day could be intimidating and after, a way of creating chaos and tying everything up.  

    Maybe, a tutorial that indicates that the voters can assess their  own health or capabilities to safely make it to the polls, especially during the pandemic.  I fear long established absentee voting with reason will be yet another norm to be put on the Trump chopping block,  Trump is already claiming dogs and cats will be voting.   As the saying goes, a cornered rat is the most dangerous.


    It won't work (5.00 / 1) (#188)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jul 23, 2020 at 11:26:27 AM EST
    What ever he does.  It won't work.  It will cause chaos but it won't work.

    There are far to many people who will vote by mail.

    The votes will be counted.


    Missouri added a new category (none / 0) (#190)
    by MO Blue on Thu Jul 23, 2020 at 12:22:19 PM EST
    for absentee ballots this year.

    For an election that occurs during the year 2020, the voter has contracted or is in an at-risk category for contracting or transmitting severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (COVID-19)

    Being 65 or older, qualifies you to vote absentee.


    I got the feeling (none / 0) (#191)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jul 23, 2020 at 12:34:34 PM EST
    That was a goal here

    Yes, Republicans in MO (none / 0) (#194)
    by MO Blue on Thu Jul 23, 2020 at 06:44:43 PM EST
    definitely want the seniors to vote since they believe they will overwhelmingly vote for Trump. The senior vote may be a little less Trumpian this year even in a Red State like MO. Don't doubt that the Rs will win the state but the percentages might be a little less.

    person woman man camera tv (none / 0) (#181)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jul 23, 2020 at 10:40:42 AM EST
    there will be a book.  A movie and a tv miniseries called person woman man camera tv



    Exactly as Jeralyn and I called it at the time (none / 0) (#185)
    by Peter G on Thu Jul 23, 2020 at 11:20:41 AM EST
    First Amendment retaliation, unconstitutional basis to revoke his home confinement. Did not help that the govt lawyer tried to lie to the judge about why the suggested condition, and why the arrest and recommitment to prison. I still want to see it disclosed from whom the order came to try and add a condition to Cohen's home confinement that he not publish his unethical book. As if I didn't know.

    One more reason (none / 0) (#182)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jul 23, 2020 at 10:58:23 AM EST
    A new Brilliant Corners Research and Strategies poll found 60% of Millennial and Generation Z voters in seven key swing states -- Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin, Florida, North Carolina, and Nevada -- say it's important Joe Biden pick a Black woman to be his running mate.

    What a disaster (none / 0) (#189)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jul 23, 2020 at 12:06:24 PM EST
    Just worth remembering millions are hanging on to every word of news like their lives depended on it.

    "What an abject disaster of a morning for the three Ms: Steve Mnuchin, Mark Meadows and Mitch McConnell."

    "After a few weeks of anticipation, the Senate GOP leadership had to abandon its plans to release a Covid relief bill after disagreements on policy with the Trump White House."

    "To put this in context: Republicans can't even get on the same page with each other for a bill that is simply meant to jumpstart negotiations with Democrats. In other words, the bill that the White House and Senate GOP leadership are arguing over will never get a vote. Now think about how hard it will be for Republicans to put together a big package with Democrats over the next few weeks."