Thursday Open Thread

Time for a new open thread, here it is, all topics welcome.

< Simon, Archie and the Innocence Project | George Floyd: Protests, Violence and Official Inaction >
  • The Online Magazine with Liberal coverage of crime-related political and injustice news

  • Contribute To TalkLeft

  • Display: Sort:
    Anyone else notice (5.00 / 3) (#15)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri May 29, 2020 at 11:30:17 AM EST
    That the internets have been strangely and blessedly troll free for the most part?  For a while now.  At least on sites like this where sanity usually rules.  So aparrently unlike some not entirely shameless.  Or maybe just smart enough to know when to shut up.

    While Trump crashed in flames and took the country with him.  While the people they had been enabling drove the country into a ditch it will take years to get out of.

    Not a peep.  Understandable.  I guess.  Pretty hard shi+ to defend and rationalize at this point.  So just not a lot for them to say.

    But they are back!  As soon as there's is an opportunity to spread disinformation and make excuses for the police state out they come from under their rocks.

    Like vile cicadas

    Maybe later (5.00 / 2) (#29)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri May 29, 2020 at 08:08:21 PM EST
    Foundatiional to the (5.00 / 2) (#31)
    by KeysDan on Sat May 30, 2020 at 05:20:39 PM EST
    voluble anger of the protestors is the galvanizing truth that liberation from oppression is a matter of life and death. Protesting is unsettling and disruptive to society but if America ignores the basic meaning of the reaction to George Floyd's death at the hands of a Minneapolis policeman,and in concert with three other officers, it does so at its own peril.

    Mr. Floyd was killed while in the care of the police over the, alleged, passing of a bogus $20 bill.  The nation-wide abhorrence is amplified by the fact that police officers who brutalize and even kill other people while wearing a badge so seldom end up facing rightful consequences shines a spotlight on how unjust the American legal system can be.

    And this reaction needs to be viewed in the context of the environment of condoning white supremacy and the witnessing of corruption over the past three years. Trump cronies or associates who might squeal are given special treatment. AG Barr, for example, has interceded on Michael Flynn's behalf despite his guilty pleas in open court. And, even now, with the release of the Flynn/Kislyak phone transcript, it appears that there was collusion between Trump and Russia, as well as supporting the lies of Flynn to the FBI.

    The George Floyd killing was appalling in its own right, but may be the spark of unrest as in the historical horror following the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand and his wife Sophie. But, this does not have to happen.  Not by a long shot.

    However, the fire in the bellies of many citizens begs for water, only to be given gasoline by Trump. "When the looting starts, the shooting starts." tweets Trump. But, it is police abuse of citizens that may lead to out-of-control protests.

    Unsatisfactory recourse by prosecutors and in the Courts, and resistance to reforming the way Americans are policed, will likely result in the continued taking to the streets. It is time for change in America. The heedless man occupying the office of president is seeing, to the detriment of the country, his chickens coming home to roost.

    Homecoming (5.00 / 1) (#32)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun May 31, 2020 at 12:04:56 PM EST
    Season 2 Prime

    Been doing this and its very good.  Funny, I started a couple of times and it just didn't jell for me.  I think there are "issues" with the first few minutes.  Another discussion.

    I kept reading about how good it was and was like, fine.  But it's really good.  After the first few minutes.

    Hong Chau (Lady Trieu) is just a force of nature.

    And it's rare when a tired old gimmick like split screen is used in such a clever way you go, wow, that was really cool.

    1/2 hour episodes.  Great for my ADHD.

    Finished your (none / 0) (#33)
    by KeysDan on Sun May 31, 2020 at 12:29:03 PM EST
    recommended series, Patriot.  It was great.  Now watching the PBS Masterpiece (Netflix) series, World on Fire.  Not the contemporary story, but during the first year of WW II.

    Watching (5.00 / 1) (#35)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun May 31, 2020 at 01:40:05 PM EST
    the Attack of the 50 Foot Woman off my DVR.

    The jokes about it's topical relevance write them selves.

    But I love it for something else.  It's a great source for one of my favorite 50s movie things.  When some movie composer tries to reproduce "rock and roll" with some collection of instruments none of which are a guitar or bass.


    You should see if (none / 0) (#36)
    by jondee on Sun May 31, 2020 at 02:13:46 PM EST
    The World's Greatest Sinner is available anywhere.

    The late, great, Timothy Carey as an unhinged rockabilly musician who proclaims himself the messiah and funds his project by seducing elderly wealthy widows.

    Scored by the, at the time unknown, young composer Frank Zappa, who proclaimed it "the worst movie ever made" on The Steve Allen Show.


    Prime (5.00 / 1) (#38)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun May 31, 2020 at 03:48:59 PM EST
    99 cents

    I'm so there


    Never heard of this (none / 0) (#37)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun May 31, 2020 at 03:44:41 PM EST
    I am truly intrigued

    We watched "50-Foot Woman" on Svengoolie (none / 0) (#39)
    by Peter G on Sun May 31, 2020 at 04:19:29 PM EST
    a few weeks ago.

    Watching "Elite" (none / 0) (#91)
    by KeysDan on Wed Jun 03, 2020 at 02:52:17 PM EST
    A Spanish series produced for Netflix.  An interesting teen and more social status and murder series.

    We've been watching (none / 0) (#95)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Wed Jun 03, 2020 at 03:29:22 PM EST
    What We Do In The Shadows.

    Described as "Delightfully absurd and ridiculously fun, What We Do in the Shadows expands on the film's vampiric lore and finds fresh perspective in its charming, off-kilter cast to create a mockumentary series worth sinking your teeth into."

    We watched Ep 6 of Season 1 last night.

    Tour de effen force


    The artist Christo has passed away. (5.00 / 2) (#40)
    by desertswine on Sun May 31, 2020 at 06:29:22 PM EST
    Christo Vladimirov Javacheff, who was known for his monumental environmental artworks with his late wife, Jeanne-Claude Denat de Guillebon, has died. He was 84 years old.

    Together, known simply as Christo and Jeanne-Claude, they wrapped iconic landmarks in fabric, such as the Pont Neuf in Paris in 1985 and the Reichstag in Berlin in 1995; and mounted thousands of orange gates in Central Park, redolent of Japan's sacred torii gates, in 2005.

    Arc de Triomphe to get posthumous Christo wrap (5.00 / 2) (#58)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jun 02, 2020 at 03:00:22 PM EST
    The world-famous war memorial was originally due to be wrapped in 25,000 square meters (270,000 square feet) of recyclable polypropylene fabric and 7,000 metres (23,000 feet) of red rope between September 18 and October 3 this year.

    But the coronavirus pandemic caused the project to be pushed back to the same dates in 2021.

    "The project is maintained. Its installation will begin on July 15, 2021 and it will have been fully taken down by October 31, 2021," Martin said.

    Christo came to Aspen years ago and (5.00 / 1) (#59)
    by fishcamp on Tue Jun 02, 2020 at 03:56:19 PM EST
    wanted to wrap the front of the ski mountain but the Aspen Ski Co said no.  So he went way down valley towards Rifle, Colorado and hung a giant orange curtain across the Colorado River and Interstate 70.  Some of us drove down to watch and it was a massive project.  He anchored a very thick cable from mountain to mountain and I don't know how he actually got the cloth onto it and across the River.  It was about 50 miles from home so I didn't see it again for some time.  Can't remember how long it was up, but it was quite beautiful in a strange way.

    I was living in NY (5.00 / 1) (#60)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jun 02, 2020 at 04:39:48 PM EST
    When he started trying to do the Gates Project.
    He was like a dog with a bone.  It didn't happen until after I left, pretty long after, I so wanted to see it.  And was so pi$$ed and the whiny "environmentalists" who worked so hard to stop it because it would make HOLES.



    But (none / 0) (#61)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jun 02, 2020 at 04:48:13 PM EST
    Btw that was called (5.00 / 2) (#62)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jun 02, 2020 at 04:53:46 PM EST
    The environmentalists (none / 0) (#131)
    by oculus on Sat Jun 06, 2020 at 02:24:01 PM EST
    blocked this one:

    Christo and Jeanne-Claude's vision for Over The River was conceived in 1992 and included 5.9 miles of silvery, luminous fabric panels to be suspended clear of and high above the water in eight distinct areas along a 42-mile stretch of the Arkansas River between Cañon City and Salida in south-central Colorado.


    A major work (none / 0) (#41)
    by Repack Rider on Sun May 31, 2020 at 08:02:13 PM EST
    Christo's "Running Fence" stretched across Sonoma county for about 20 miles. It was spectacular.

    There is an excellent Netflix anthology series (none / 0) (#44)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun May 31, 2020 at 08:48:24 PM EST
    Called Love Death and Robots.  Some of the most beautiful animated short films you will ever see.  One is an adaptation of an Alastair Reynolds story Zima Blue.  

    Always seem like an homage to Christo

    If you haven't seen Netflix's R-rated animated anthology series Love, Death & Robots, first of all, what are you waiting for? And secondly, you're missing out on excellent adaptations of award-winning stories by awards-worthy animators and filmmakers. David Fincher and Tim Miller brought the 18-episode epic to the content-streaming masses, but it fell to studios like Passion Animation and animators like the Oscar-nominated Robert Valley (Pear Cider and Cigarettes) to bring the individual stories to life, like the incredible short, "Zima Blue."

    This tale, adapted from Alastair Reynolds' own short story, just so happened to be my favorite of the bunch; you can see how I felt the other segments stacked up in my review. So imagine my delight when I had a chance to chat with Valley and Passion Animation Studios executive producer Cara Speller about "Zima Blue" and how it came to be. Below, you'll get insider insight on how the shorts-selection process for Love, Death & Robots came about, how Valley and Passion ended up adapting "Zima Blue", and just how long it took to settle on a design (and a specific color) for the title character. It's a must-read for fans of animation and all things Love, Death & Robots, now streaming on Netflix.,


    Lincoln Project (5.00 / 1) (#46)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Jun 01, 2020 at 07:35:48 AM EST
    Why Did the Chicken Cross the Road? (5.00 / 3) (#70)
    by KeysDan on Wed Jun 03, 2020 at 10:57:06 AM EST
    The NYTimes front page article (Wednesday, June 3), by Peter Baker and Maggie Haberman et.al., reports on Trump's now infamous walk in the park.  The lengthy reporting boils down to    Trump fuming that he was depicted as a weakling hiding out in a spider hole.  He needed action. So what is the most moronic thing to do?  Trump had an idea--send in the military to dominate. Discussion ensued.  Ivanka had a brainstorm--Daddy could walk across Lafayette park and go to the church

    The Trump Chamber of Deputies agreed. An unforeseen problem: the plan to expand the security perimeter had not yet been carried out.  AG Barr discovered this, the first of many mis-steps, and called for what became a burst of violence and mayhem.

    A glitch, but the plan was now on track.  The little speech in the Rose Garden something, something  law and order, and the gang was on its way. Ivanka's job was to bring the Bible, which she dutifully toted I her $1,540 Max Mara handbag.  All were stern looking fitting of the occasion.

    Mission accomplished, they made to the church.  But now what?  No one seems to have thought about that part.  Maybe, a nice prayer inside, but no, the church was boarded up.  Being a former star, he cunningly improvised--he held up the Bible so recently in the embrace of Max Mara and posed in most serious face for a photo. The purpose now a lasting part of presidential history, Trump and cohorts headed back passing by fresh graffiti saying "F**k Trump."

    Everyone should read that (none / 0) (#71)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Jun 03, 2020 at 11:01:44 AM EST
    It was online last night

    Link (5.00 / 1) (#73)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Jun 03, 2020 at 11:05:45 AM EST
    It was appropriate that they (none / 0) (#101)
    by desertswine on Wed Jun 03, 2020 at 04:11:12 PM EST
    should mention the new FU Trump graffiti as they were heading back to the WH.

    It's weird (5.00 / 1) (#72)
    by CST on Wed Jun 03, 2020 at 11:03:23 AM EST
    But these protests have me more optimistic about America than I have been in 4 years.

    Also it's become clear that some police forces in America (looking at you NYPD) are the real terrorist organizations.

    Frank Rizzo came down today (5.00 / 1) (#74)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Jun 03, 2020 at 11:13:22 AM EST
    good riddance (5.00 / 1) (#75)
    by Chuck0 on Wed Jun 03, 2020 at 11:52:52 AM EST
    I read somewhere it was the most defaced piece of public art anywhere.

    I always likened it to putting up a statue of Der Fuehrer across the street from Holocaust Museum.


    Hopefully (none / 0) (#76)
    by FlJoe on Wed Jun 03, 2020 at 12:29:57 PM EST
    the youthful enthusiasm on display will extend until November, if they show at the polls like they have at the marches the GOP is doomed. Assuming we will have a free and fair election that is.

    We almost certainly won't (none / 0) (#77)
    by CST on Wed Jun 03, 2020 at 01:14:52 PM EST
    Have a free and fair election. Which is why it needs to be overwhelming so they can't cheat on the margins.

    Imagine for a moment (5.00 / 1) (#88)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Jun 03, 2020 at 02:02:49 PM EST
    You are Cheeto.

    You bring every tentacle of government power to bear in a effort to broadcast your stunning ONENESS and you are shunned and humiliated by Pat Feakin Robertson and then.......


    What must he be suffering?

    This (none / 0) (#89)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Jun 03, 2020 at 02:10:15 PM EST
    Tom Cotton Times OpEd today (5.00 / 1) (#100)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Jun 03, 2020 at 04:06:37 PM EST

    "One thing above all else will restore order to our streets: an overwhelming show of force to disperse, detain and ultimately deter lawbreakers. But local law enforcement in some cities desperately needs backup, while delusional politicians in other cities refuse to do what's necessary to uphold the rule of law."

    "The pace of looting and disorder may fluctuate from night to night, but it's past time to support local law enforcement with federal authority. Some governors have mobilized the National Guard, yet others refuse, and in some cases the rioters still outnumber the police and Guard combined. In these circumstances, the Insurrection Act authorizes the president to employ the military `or any other means' in `cases of insurrection, or obstruction to the laws.'"

    Watch out for this one

    From what I understand (none / 0) (#102)
    by CST on Wed Jun 03, 2020 at 05:31:28 PM EST
    The military has much stricter guidelines on appropriate use of force than most Police Departments in the U.S.

    While I do think the military is ideologically more conservative than not, I actually don't think they are quite as extreme in most cases as the police, it's a much wider swath of the population that goes into the military due to the benefits.

    In some ways I have more faith in individual members of the military than in the police.

    I have no faith in the leadership that will use them to create dangerous situations.


    You are right about the training part (none / 0) (#103)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Jun 03, 2020 at 06:06:27 PM EST
    And we already have militarized police.  The militarization of the police have been going on for years.  I have cops in my family.  
    If you take some redneck and dress him like a soldier and give him military style weapons and tell him he is fighting a war, on drugs or whatever else, not surprising they treat people like the enemy.
    Yes, at least the real military has some training.

    But whatever the question is, Tom Cotton is not the answer.


    cops and military is that the average military person has not spent day after day, month after month, year after year, of his/her career dealing with the "characters" of our society. Maybe cops should be limited in the number of years they can be cops.

    And we've all seen examples of military (none / 0) (#122)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Thu Jun 04, 2020 at 11:59:01 AM EST
    personel who get..."jaded"...after extended periods of interaction with the local populace in places like the mid-east.

    Well, peace officer retirement, at (none / 0) (#132)
    by oculus on Sat Jun 06, 2020 at 02:27:19 PM EST
    least in CA, is at age 55. Pretty sweet

    Pretty sweet indeed. (none / 0) (#134)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Mon Jun 08, 2020 at 12:35:30 PM EST
    It was the third of June... (5.00 / 1) (#116)
    by desertswine on Wed Jun 03, 2020 at 09:42:02 PM EST
    That cute tidy white house sliding (none / 0) (#117)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jun 04, 2020 at 07:51:10 AM EST
    Relentlessly into the roiling sea is a pretty good metaphor for our current situation here in the US of A

    Appears most of this videos (none / 0) (#118)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jun 04, 2020 at 08:28:44 AM EST
    Have been removed for some reason.

    this one might still work


    this one has (none / 0) (#119)
    by leap on Thu Jun 04, 2020 at 08:45:27 AM EST
    higher resolution. Plus, Norwegian. I would like to see a longer shot upslope to see the geography.

    well, that one is gone now, too. (none / 0) (#124)
    by leap on Thu Jun 04, 2020 at 03:10:24 PM EST
    But the Forbes link still works. ??

    I hate when they remove videos like that. (none / 0) (#120)
    by desertswine on Thu Jun 04, 2020 at 10:36:13 AM EST
    Trump is a vile but hapless fool (5.00 / 2) (#121)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jun 04, 2020 at 11:42:22 AM EST
    William Barr (speaking now) is the f'cking devil.

    I'm glad I won't live this long (none / 0) (#1)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu May 28, 2020 at 08:31:50 PM EST
    Scientists Think Cockroach Milk Could Be a New Superfood, And We Wish We Were Kidding

    It's more than four times as nutritious as cow's milk and the researchers think it could be the key to feeding our growing population in the future.

    Who knew (none / 0) (#2)
    by Peter G on Thu May 28, 2020 at 08:44:47 PM EST
    that cockroaches were mammals?

    I have seen (none / 0) (#3)
    by MKS on Thu May 28, 2020 at 09:03:23 PM EST
    a lot of "cockroaches" who were "mammal-like."

    I guess if there can be "oat milk" and (none / 0) (#4)
    by Peter G on Thu May 28, 2020 at 09:12:02 PM EST
    "almond milk" then why not "cockroach milk". Lactose free, no doubt.

    Will there be (none / 0) (#5)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu May 28, 2020 at 09:24:08 PM EST
    Ice cream

    Problem with the MSM (none / 0) (#6)
    by ragebot on Thu May 28, 2020 at 11:25:15 PM EST
    is how they select what to cover.  This week Trump had a presser where he took credit for a massive lowering of prices for insulin.  Diabetes is the most common disease Medicare covers and this will lower the cost to literally millions of voters.  In some ways it reminds me of when Bush created Medicare Part D which ballooned the government cost for Medicare but made a lot of voters happy.  As Tip O'Neill famously said all politics is local, and lowering the monthly cost of insulin from sometimes four figures to $US35 a month will buy a lot of votes.

    You're spinning (5.00 / 1) (#7)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri May 29, 2020 at 06:07:02 AM EST
    What he did is use price caps to mandate lower insulin costs which conservatives are supposedly against because it's "big government" and it's only for people on Medicare not the entire country. I'm sure he did this because he is having very large problems with elderly voters these days due to conservatives basically asking them to die for the economy.

    Bingo (5.00 / 1) (#8)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri May 29, 2020 at 06:51:46 AM EST
    But it's true.  Insulin costs have been ridiculous.  I did not really know about this until my friend started talking about how he could not afford to retire because his insulin was 500 dollars a month with MC and excellent supplemental insurance.

    I expect it is an attempt to get some seniors back.

    But it sure won't make my friend vote for him and I expect that will be the case 99% of the time.  No one is going to vote for him because of this.  But he probably thinks they will.


    It is desperation (5.00 / 1) (#9)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri May 29, 2020 at 07:06:35 AM EST
    on the part of Trump. My Vitamin D prescription cost tripled this year. That's not a determining factor for me voting against Trump. It is just everything.  

    About that (none / 0) (#13)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri May 29, 2020 at 10:04:14 AM EST
    Had an interesting thing with vit D recently.

    I had also been taking a prescription.  Which my insurance would not pay for and which was really expensive.  

    I recently changed doctors and mentioned this.  The doctor looked and said "there is no reason for you to be taking this as a prescription". She said that at one point it was low and a prescription was needed but that the prescription should have been temporary.  Only while it was very low.  That now, and she said for a long time before that, I could have been taking OTC vit D which is a lot cheaper.

    I said why did my other doctor not tell me this.

    She shrugged.  

    Truth is he didn't tell me because he didn't care enough to look closely.

    It might be a good idea to get a second opinion.


    Last time (none / 0) (#16)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri May 29, 2020 at 12:47:51 PM EST
    I was in he told me I could just take OTC Vitamin D but it's fortunately covered by my flex spend which the OTC kind is not.

    It is the only reason I have not retired. (none / 0) (#18)
    by Chuck0 on Fri May 29, 2020 at 02:40:16 PM EST
    Prescription costs. I'm too young for Medicare. I take a couple of drugs that would run me over $1500 a month if I was paying out of pocket.

    Trump wonders if he should take insulin. (none / 0) (#20)
    by fishcamp on Fri May 29, 2020 at 03:29:32 PM EST
    He is allegedly not diabetic.  Didn't he say he knows more than doctors or something like that.  Brings to mind the famous Claus von Bülow attempt to murder his wife with an insulin overdose.  Maybe he will take himself down with his strange medical ideas..  A Clorox, quinine, insulin combo could do it.

    I met Claus briefly (none / 0) (#22)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri May 29, 2020 at 03:57:32 PM EST

    At studio54.  No shi+  


    Problem with wingers (none / 0) (#11)
    by Yman on Fri May 29, 2020 at 07:43:20 AM EST
    ... is they lump all actual new sources together as the "MSM" and then lie about them.

    How man y links would you like to the insulin story?  It was all over the "MSM", even in the middle of a pandemic/economic shutdown and police murder captured on video.  Not to mention the fact that the insulin move was nothing more than an attempt to stave off a larger reform on drug prices.


    This is actually funny (none / 0) (#10)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri May 29, 2020 at 07:33:06 AM EST
    Sick and sad but funny

    Gangs of Californian Children Are Not Actually Stealing Ballots

    Really, who among us has not spent many happy warm fall afternoons harvesting ballots.

    I couldn't get past (none / 0) (#14)
    by jondee on Fri May 29, 2020 at 10:29:13 AM EST
    Alex's clockwork elves. Too hilarious.

    Are they related to the elves that used to fix people's shoes at night while everyone slept?


    His claim is ridiculous, of course. (none / 0) (#17)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Fri May 29, 2020 at 02:17:50 PM EST
    But of interest to me as mail theft has actually become a thing over the past decade or so in my neighborhood. I ignored the reports from my neighbors for a long time until one day a couple years ago when my torn-open mail was found thrown in the dirt at the end of the street.

    The one thing they stole from the pile was the registration for a vehicle I had recently bought. What could you do with that? You can't use it on another vehicle. What good is it to someone else?

    Anyway, I replaced the box with a much better-looking and securely-locking model, and so far so good...


    The wonderousness of a PO box. (none / 0) (#19)
    by Chuck0 on Fri May 29, 2020 at 02:49:03 PM EST
    USPS does not provide home delivery in my village. It is not big enough for a route. So we all get a free PO Box. But I have been maintaining PO boxes for many years. Anytime I was planning a move, I would rent a PO box where I was moving to a couple of months ahead in order to have an address there and somewhere to have mail forwarded to. They is so low, I just ended up keeping the PO boxes. Never had to worry about my mail sitting on the street. I was a truck driver once also. PO box was invaluable.

    True that. (none / 0) (#21)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Fri May 29, 2020 at 03:39:21 PM EST
    Not as convenient, but safer.

    The Vast of Night (none / 0) (#12)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri May 29, 2020 at 09:53:48 AM EST
    Perry Mason (none / 0) (#23)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri May 29, 2020 at 04:14:56 PM EST
    Perry Mason (5.00 / 2) (#24)
    by MO Blue on Fri May 29, 2020 at 04:22:11 PM EST
    Will definitely have to check into that series. The original  Perry Mason was a favorite many eons ago.  

    That's a great cast (5.00 / 1) (#25)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri May 29, 2020 at 04:28:15 PM EST
    Both veterans of iconic series and all the others too.

    And Robert Downey behind it.


    I'm looking forward to (none / 0) (#48)
    by Jack E Lope on Mon Jun 01, 2020 at 02:44:36 PM EST
    ...Matthew Rhys as Ironside.  

    I learned more evidence law (5.00 / 2) (#30)
    by MKS on Fri May 29, 2020 at 10:39:08 PM EST
    watching Perry Mason than in Law School.  Used to watch reruns over the lunch hour:  "Objection, hearsay!"   "Sustained."

    But everyone hates us (none / 0) (#26)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri May 29, 2020 at 04:29:16 PM EST
    Vanity moment (none / 0) (#27)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri May 29, 2020 at 06:30:33 PM EST
    BIRTHMOVIESDEATH does an interesting bit on the news of the day  using one of my favorite screen credits.  Strange Days.

    The videos are hard to miss. Shaky camera-phone footage of police brutality, the contorted visage of white rage in the face of black people daring to live, a cop car barreling through a street protest, cities on fire. It's shocking to realize how mundane it's all become. It's here, on-demand, whether you like it or not. Every day on social media is a one-stop horror show of the depths of man's inhumanity to man. The only thing STRANGE DAYS got wrong about the future is thinking people would have to pay for it.

    This was a great time.  When it was still really fun.  It was my second film and it was a very small crew, not many effects, and we were all, like, best drinking friends.

    One quick story.  Like I said small group.  6 I think.  One of the major things we ended up needing to do, which was not in the bid or the staffing and only happened because Kathryn  Bigelow was so disorganized and loopy.

    If you were in LA in 1994 you might remember Camerons (it was really his movie - we called it the alimony movie, instead of paying his ex wife alimony he lets them take credit for a movie)  MILLENNIUM PARTY.  It was a big deal.  They blocked off most of downtown LA.  And the whole entire point was to have a real party in which to shoot the finale f the movie.

    Ok so Bigelow and her crew are on top of the Bonaventure hotel with the plan to shoot down at the crowd.  The crowd was like a character.  

    Getting to the point

    She was so crazy and disorganized, I know this because the leader of our crew and my best friend at the time, Karen, was up there too, that they never even got around to shooting that part of the movie till, like, 4 in the morning.

    The crowd had gone home.  So we had to replace the crowd with CG.  And we did.  In the movie the crowd you see at the end from the roof is little characters made, from bottom to top, of a cone a cube and a sphere fir a head.  And on every head is the face of one of the 6 of us.  Randomly applied.

    Party story (none / 0) (#28)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri May 29, 2020 at 06:48:12 PM EST
    7 minutes in, crowd 8 minutes in.


    Dana Boente (none / 0) (#34)
    by ragebot on Sun May 31, 2020 at 01:16:24 PM EST
    a name I can't recall hearing till now just resigned with a little help from higher ups at DOJ.

    Last month the Federalist reported Boente was opposed to releasing exculpatory documents in the Flynn case.

    According to the FBI official who spoke to The Federalist, FBI general counsel Dana Boente led the charge internally against DOJ's disclosure of the new materials. Boente, who briefly served as acting Attorney General after Trump became president, personally signed off on one of the federal spy warrants against former Trump campaign affiliate Carter Page.

    The Federalist? (5.00 / 1) (#42)
    by Repack Rider on Sun May 31, 2020 at 08:04:54 PM EST
    Is there a credible source for that?

    There are no "exculpatory documents" (5.00 / 1) (#45)
    by Peter G on Sun May 31, 2020 at 08:50:19 PM EST
    in the Flynn case. To be "exculpatory" a document would have to show that he did not in fact lie to the FBI when interviewed. I have not read of anything like that.

    The brief opposing mandamus on behalf (none / 0) (#49)
    by Peter G on Mon Jun 01, 2020 at 03:47:21 PM EST
    of Judge Sullivan in the Flynn case has now been filed (36-page PDF).

    The brief for the Department of Justice (5.00 / 4) (#133)
    by Peter G on Sat Jun 06, 2020 at 02:48:01 PM EST
    supporting Flynn's mandamus petition was filed on June 1. Here's an article by Neal Katyal et al. denouncing the brief, and which includes a link if anyone wants to read the actual document.

    "The Federalist" (5.00 / 1) (#47)
    by Yman on Mon Jun 01, 2020 at 09:50:58 AM EST


    Who said you don't have a sense of humor?


    RIP Christo (none / 0) (#43)
    by McBain on Sun May 31, 2020 at 08:31:58 PM EST
    I didn't know his full name...
    Christo Vladimirov Javacheff, who was known for his monumental environmental artworks with his late wife, Jeanne-Claude Denat de Guillebon, has died. He was 84 years old.

    "We pay with our money! No grants, no money from the industry," he said at the opening of "The London Mastaba" in 2018. "All these projects get initiated by us. Nobody asked us to do it. Nobody asked us to wrap the Reichstag. Nobody asked us to install floating piers. We decided that we do exactly what we like to do."

    George Will (none / 0) (#50)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Jun 01, 2020 at 05:22:11 PM EST
    "In life's unforgiving arithmetic, we are the sum of our choices. Congressional Republicans have made theirs for more than 1,200 days. We cannot know all the measures necessary to restore the nation's domestic health and international standing, but we know the first step: Senate Republicans must be routed, as condign punishment for their Vichyite collaboration."

    Interesting idea (none / 0) (#51)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jun 02, 2020 at 08:17:10 AM EST
    Too many Bush family members (5.00 / 1) (#52)
    by MO Blue on Tue Jun 02, 2020 at 08:28:47 AM EST
    wanting political positions In the Republican Party for Dubya to  do this. Moral courage has never been one of his strong points IIRC. Actually IMO his only strong point is that he is not Trump.

    Probably true (none / 0) (#53)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jun 02, 2020 at 08:39:46 AM EST
    But it would be a pretty big deal and the point of the piece is that there's an active and growing sector of anti Trump republicans.  Many of them former Bush administration officials.

    The idea being a new post Trump Republican Party.  And expecting the current one to be wiped out in November.

    I agree if done it would be entirely out of self interest.  I think there could be good reasons to do it out of self interest.


    Maybe even more (none / 0) (#56)
    by KeysDan on Tue Jun 02, 2020 at 12:58:24 PM EST
    effective would be to crank up Reagan from the 1980 presidential debate with President Jimmy Carter.   Americans " are you better off today than you were four years ago?"

    100 years ago (none / 0) (#54)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jun 02, 2020 at 10:47:37 AM EST
    David Frum

    "If Trump seeks historical parallels for his reelection campaign, here's one that is much more apt. There was a campaign in which the party of the president presided over a deadly pandemic at the same time as a savage depression and a nationwide spasm of bloody urban racial violence. The year was 1920. The party in power through these troubles went on to suffer the worst defeat in U.S. presidential history, a loss by a margin of 26 points in the popular vote. The triumphant challenger, Warren Harding, was not some charismatic superhero of a candidate. He didn't need to be. In 2020 as in 1920, the party of the president is running on the slogan Let us fix the mess we made. It didn't work then. It's unlikely to work now."

    That bit is from a longer bit (none / 0) (#55)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jun 02, 2020 at 12:26:13 PM EST
    where Frum is talking about how Trump thinks he's Nixon and thinks he can use his re-election strategy

    David Frum: "Today, we know the Nixon of the secret tapes: crude, amoral, often bigoted. The public Nixon of 1968, however, behaved with the dignity and decorum Americans then expected in a president. Trump in 2020 occupies the place not of Nixon, but of Daley and George Wallace: Trump is the force of disorder that is frightening American voters into seeking a healing candidate--not the candidate of healing who can restore a fair and just public order."

    "The irony, of course, is that at the same time that Trump tweets bloodthirsty threats, he has turned off the White House lights and cowered in the bunker below. He joins noisy bluster to visible weakness--exactly the opposite of the Nixon formula in 1968. Trump will not repeat Nixon's success in 1968, because he does not understand that success. Nixon joined his vow of order to a promise of peace at home and abroad. Trump offers only conflict, and he offers no way out of conflict, because--unlike Nixon in 1968--Trump is himself the cause of so much conflict."

    "If Trump seeks historical parallels for his reelection campaign.....


    Thought I would add that cause Trump tweeted this

    Donald J. Trump

    It Election Day (none / 0) (#57)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jun 02, 2020 at 12:58:32 PM EST
    Several interesting Republican primaries, none more than Steve King.

    All our "thoughts and prayers" should be with Steve today as he fights for his political life.

    A win would be a Republican Party Top Ten Worst Nightmares given all that's going on and Herr Cheetos prime time performance yesterday.

    The funny thing is if he loses it won't be because he is a vile fascist racist moron.  But the crowded field could mean he wins

    Steve King's Racism Won't Be His Undoing
    Instead, the Iowa Republican's primary challengers have framed him as just another ineffective career politician.

    I don't have a good feeling (none / 0) (#63)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jun 02, 2020 at 05:46:57 PM EST
    About the rapidly approaching curfews and the 10s of thousands of people in the streets.

    Especially in DC.

    really afraid lives are going to be lost before this is over.

    Paralyzed (none / 0) (#64)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jun 02, 2020 at 06:30:49 PM EST
    Confronting a failed presidency after 100,000-plus COVID deaths and the protests that are still convulsing the nation this week, Donald Trump is venting to West Wing officials that Democratic governors are allowing civil unrest to rage in American cities to damage his reelection campaign. "He feels the blue-state governors are letting it burn because it hurts him. It's a lot like how he sees coronavirus," an outside White House adviser told me yesterday, shortly after audio leaked of Trump berating governors on a conference call about quelling the riots.

    Trump's sense of victimhood, and his view that the crisis ignited by George Floyd's gruesome death is largely a political problem, have resulted in a shambolic White House response, veering from Trump's retreat to the bunker as the protests neared the White House to the culmination of police using teargas on peaceful protestors so that he could walk through a park to stage a photo op in front of St. John's Church. "He's paralyzed," a former West Wing official told me.


    NOBODY (none / 0) (#65)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jun 02, 2020 at 08:49:01 PM EST
    Wants to own this.  Except maybe Barr and Trump

    Defense Secretary Mark Esper told NBC News he had no advance notice before President Trump led him and other senior administration officials to St. John's Episcopal Church for a widely criticized photo-op.

    Said Esper: "I thought I was going to do two things: to see some damage and to talk to the troops."

    He added: "I didn't know where I was going."

    Army Gen. Mark Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, also said he was caught by surprise when Trump led them to the church for a staged visit.

    Goodbye..... (none / 0) (#66)
    by desertswine on Tue Jun 02, 2020 at 11:28:25 PM EST
    and good riddance.

    After years of incendiary comments on race and other issues that lost him the support of many Republican Party leaders, conservative Iowa Rep. Steve King has lost his bid for reelection to a primary challenge by GOP state Sen. Randy Feenstra, the Associated Press projects.

    The Mother Of All Pregnant Pauses (none / 0) (#67)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Jun 03, 2020 at 09:55:44 AM EST
    Justin Trudeau

    when did everyone except me, d-swine and an occasional Dan stop commenting in open threads?

    There is an announcement soon (none / 0) (#68)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Jun 03, 2020 at 10:42:22 AM EST
    On charges for the other three.  

    So they say.  

    Or NOT charges (none / 0) (#69)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Jun 03, 2020 at 10:43:56 AM EST
    But that seems unlikely

    Second degree (none / 0) (#78)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Jun 03, 2020 at 01:16:13 PM EST
    Charges for the others

    2nd degree for Chauvin as well. (5.00 / 1) (#79)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Wed Jun 03, 2020 at 01:20:04 PM EST
    Betting pool (none / 0) (#81)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Jun 03, 2020 at 01:33:54 PM EST
    On who cuts a deal?

    Everything is on video, no?

    Intent (none / 0) (#83)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Jun 03, 2020 at 01:47:21 PM EST
    They say

    They have been saying (none / 0) (#84)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Jun 03, 2020 at 01:53:28 PM EST
    One or more of the others were "cooperating".  
    Saying unflattering things about  Officer Knee.  This would explain, they say, the change in the charge.  Intent.

    So, previous comments by Knee? (none / 0) (#85)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Wed Jun 03, 2020 at 01:55:19 PM EST
    I wonder (5.00 / 1) (#87)
    by CST on Wed Jun 03, 2020 at 01:59:00 PM EST
    If it has to do with the fact that they might have known each other from outside employment.

    They must be or already have (none / 0) (#90)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Wed Jun 03, 2020 at 02:12:31 PM EST
    interviewing the other employees from that nightclub.

    Or comments in real time (none / 0) (#86)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Jun 03, 2020 at 01:57:22 PM EST
    Live witnesses who were the defendant's friends (none / 0) (#94)
    by Peter G on Wed Jun 03, 2020 at 03:29:18 PM EST
    or colleagues ("snitches") are always better than video or audio alone. The witness can narrate the playing of the tape, generally to good effect. Is done in drug distribution conspiracy cases in federal court all the time. I would expect Ellison to offer a deal (but probably not immunity) to the officer who was not leaning on Floyd's back.

    Thank you (none / 0) (#96)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Wed Jun 03, 2020 at 03:34:06 PM EST
    P Wire (none / 0) (#80)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Jun 03, 2020 at 01:20:26 PM EST
    Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison "plans to elevate charges against the former Minneapolis police officer who knelt on George Floyd's neck while adding charges of aiding and abetting murder against the other three officers at the scene," the Minneapolis Star Tribune reports.

    See informative article I linked (none / 0) (#92)
    by Peter G on Wed Jun 03, 2020 at 03:22:43 PM EST
    the other day on the significance of the difference between 2d Degree and 3d Degree under Minnesota law.

    Trump's "Emergency Partial Physical" (none / 0) (#93)
    by KeysDan on Wed Jun 03, 2020 at 03:27:27 PM EST
    performed in November 2019 at Walter Reed, has been completed.  All tests were "positive" as Dr. Bornstein might report and if believed, you are Marie of Romania

     B.P. 121/79; HR. 63; total cholesterol 167 (ref range, 0-200); HDL 70 (23-92; LDL 91 ( less than 99); AIC normal range (below 5.7).   244 lbs 6'3".  

    Apparently, the second half was not conducted at Walter Reed. Maybe, something to do while in the bunker.

    Dude, stop digging (none / 0) (#97)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Jun 03, 2020 at 03:44:33 PM EST

    Trump: I Was in the Bunker for 'an Inspection'

    Note, that link is to NEWSMAX

    "I was there for a tiny, short little period of time," he said, adding it was "more for an inspection."

    Trump said any report of him being in the bunker at night is "false."

    But people familiar with Trump's trip to the bunker say that isn't the case. Sources told CNN that Trump was hauled off to the bunker for his own protection for about an hour as protests got heated near the White House on Friday night. A law enforcement official and another source told CNN that first lady Melania Trump and their son, Barron, also were moved to the bunker.

    I was thinking about this.  I can imagine the Secret Service, who probably detest him, whispering

    "Hey, lets see if he will go to the bunker!"


    He was inspecting his shorts (none / 0) (#98)
    by jondee on Wed Jun 03, 2020 at 03:52:14 PM EST
    to see if he'd soiled himself.

    And, he did not really gas his (none / 0) (#99)
    by KeysDan on Wed Jun 03, 2020 at 04:05:17 PM EST
    own people or use rubber bullets to clear the park, either.

     And, I am old enough to remember the pandemic of 2020, and tear gas, in addition to its effect on eyes, causes irritation to the lungs, possibly making an individual exposed more susceptible to coronavirus. And, those low-flying helicopters may do wonders to disseminate droplets.

    Trump's doctor did indicate that he did take hydroxychloroquine for two weeks. He was monitored by EKG.  

    Not a good idea, however,  hydroxychloroquine is a gateway drug to lysol.


    More (none / 0) (#104)
    by FlJoe on Wed Jun 03, 2020 at 06:15:04 PM EST
    not antifa
    "The report continued: "They were arrested Saturday on the way to a protest in downtown Las Vegas after filling gas cans at a parking lot and making Molotov cocktails in glass bottles, according to a copy of the criminal complaint obtained by The Associated Press"
    "The complaint filed in U.S. District Court in Las Vegas on Wednesday said they self-identified as part of the `boogaloo' movement,

    Wow (none / 0) (#105)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Jun 03, 2020 at 06:16:41 PM EST
    James Mattis Denounces President Trump, Describes Him as a Threat to the Constitution
    In an extraordinary condemnation, the former defense secretary backs protesters and says the president is trying to turn Americans against one another.

    "I have watched this week's unfolding events, angry and appalled," Mattis writes. "The words `Equal Justice Under Law' are carved in the pediment of the United States Supreme Court. This is precisely what protesters are rightly demanding. It is a wholesome and unifying demand--one that all of us should be able to get behind. We must not be distracted by a small number of lawbreakers. The protests are defined by tens of thousands of people of conscience who are insisting that we live up to our values--our values as people and our values as a nation." He goes on, "We must reject and hold accountable those in office who would make a mockery of our Constitution."

    Better (none / 0) (#106)
    by FlJoe on Wed Jun 03, 2020 at 06:21:32 PM EST
    late than never I suppose, at least he pulled no punches
    "Donald Trump is the first president in my lifetime who does not try to unite the American people--does not even pretend to try. Instead, he tries to divide us," Mattis writes. "We are witnessing the consequences of three years of this deliberate effort. We are witnessing the consequences of three years without mature leadership.

    That's gonna (none / 0) (#107)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Jun 03, 2020 at 06:26:03 PM EST
    Leave a mark

    Ha (none / 0) (#108)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Jun 03, 2020 at 06:27:00 PM EST
    They just said that on cnn.

    He (none / 0) (#109)
    by FlJoe on Wed Jun 03, 2020 at 06:39:52 PM EST
    even went Godwin on him
    Instructions given by the military departments to our troops before the Normandy invasion reminded soldiers that "The Nazi slogan for destroying us...was `Divide and Conquer.' Our American answer is `In Union there is Strength.'" We must summon that unity to surmount this crisis--confident that we are better than our politics.
    a closet antifa?

    Mouthpiece Kayleigh McInanity.. (none / 0) (#110)
    by desertswine on Wed Jun 03, 2020 at 06:45:10 PM EST
    compared trump to Winston Churchill.

    "Like Churchill," McEnany continued. "We saw him inspecting the bombing damage. It sent a powerful message of leadership to the British people.

    Yes, like Churchill....   Hahahahahahahhahaha


    She also said (none / 0) (#111)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Jun 03, 2020 at 06:50:09 PM EST
    Calling that a photo op was "questioning his faith"

    Meanwhile in some batshi+ interview Sean Spicer (really?) ASKED him about his "faith"

    In his chat with Sean Spicer, the president is asked if he prays, if he's grown in his faith, and what religion means to him.

    "So I think maybe I have, from the standpoint that I see so much that I can do. I've done so much for religion."

    Sorry (none / 0) (#112)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Jun 03, 2020 at 06:53:03 PM EST
    I think that was Kelly Sue or Kelly May or whatever

    Some (none / 0) (#113)
    by FlJoe on Wed Jun 03, 2020 at 07:00:07 PM EST
    people say I've done more for religion than Jesus.
    That Moses guy was overrated and Mohammed was a terrorist.

    Ask not what religious values can do (none / 0) (#114)
    by Peter G on Wed Jun 03, 2020 at 07:02:16 PM EST
    for you, but what you have done and delusionally believe you can do "for" religion.

    2 things (cracks) (none / 0) (#123)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jun 04, 2020 at 12:42:34 PM EST
    Murkowski `Struggling' Over Support for Trump

    June 4, 2020 at 1:01 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard 119 Comments

    Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-AK) broke with many of her Republican colleagues, applauding comments by General James Mattis that condemned President Trump's actions this week, CNN reports.

    Murkowski added that she wasn't sure if she would support Trump in November: "I am struggling with it. I have struggled with it for a long time I think you know that. I didn't support the President in the initial election, and I work hard to try to make sure that I'm able to represent my state well that I'm able to work with any administration and any president."

    Most Republicans Shrug Off Mattis' Criticism of Trump

    June 4, 2020 at 12:56 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard 79 Comments

    "Republican senators are dismissing the scathing criticism leveled against President Trump by his former defense secretary, James Mattis, the latest sign that Republicans by and large are showing unwavering support for the leader of their party during this high-stakes election year," CNN reports.

    Pathetic cracks.

    But cracks.

    Cracks (none / 0) (#125)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jun 04, 2020 at 05:06:44 PM EST
    "Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-IA) said that he will block the confirmation of two of President Trump's nominees until the White House provides `adequate explanations' for why the inspectors general for the intelligence community and State Department were ousted in the past two months," Axios reports.

    "It's a rare attempt by a Republican to hold Trump accountable for his recent purge of federal watchdogs."

    I remember saying a while ago here (none / 0) (#126)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jun 04, 2020 at 05:13:11 PM EST
    That I thought the Trump show would work until it didn't.

    And that when it stopped it would happen quickly.  The bottom would drop out.  I think it will.

    I have absolutely no idea what that means will happen, when the bottom drops out,  but I would bet this; what ever happens in the next few months will have never happened before.  Ever.  We are in for some "where no one has gone before" shi+.

    So you could say we are cursed to live history but look on the bright side.  If you survive it will be a great story for the grandchildren.


    Ever (none / 0) (#127)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jun 04, 2020 at 05:18:52 PM EST
    In this country, I should say.

    538 (none / 0) (#129)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jun 04, 2020 at 07:59:50 PM EST

    This is one of those rare moments of uncertainty when it's possible that the wall of Republican support sheltering Trump finally crumbles. It is still unlikely to happen, but as I've written before, if it does happen, it will happen suddenly.

    Most likely, Senate and House Republicans will eventually find a way to defend Trump's actions, as they have done before (remember the impeachment trial?). Trump may not be perfect, they may say, but the Democrats are much worse. This is the prevailing rationalization of our zero-sum politics.

    But in moments like this, when nobody knows exactly what to say or do, a few unlikely public critiques of Trump could have a surprising cascade effect. And if the president continues to transgress widely-shared democratic values -- putting congressional Republicans in an increasingly difficult electoral position -- we may yet see a consequential crack in the Republican Party.



    Don't ever even think it can't get worse (none / 0) (#128)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jun 04, 2020 at 07:05:23 PM EST
    Some shaking in the Mammoth, CA, area too (none / 0) (#130)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Fri Jun 05, 2020 at 11:25:03 AM EST