Golden Globe Awards 2020

The Golden Globe awards are live. Here's their Twitter Feed. Unfortunately, Ricky Gervais is hosting again. The New York Times is keeping track here.

The NY Times critics didn't think much of Gervais' opening. With lines like this, I'm not suprised:

"I came here in a limo and the license plate was made by Felicity Huffman."

Check out Tom Hank's reaction. [More...]

Jennifer Aniston and Reese Witherspoon are both nominated for best actress in a TV drama for Apple TV's 10 episode "Morning Show" -- think of it like Matt Lauer redux. The only reason I made it through all of the episodes is that I like Jennifer Aniston. I didn't care for Reese Witherspoon or any of the other actors, or the show itself. It felt very last year to me. They could have (and I think should have) made it a 4 episode series, that's how redundant it was. Steve Carrell was overkill as the Matt Lauer-inspired character given how small his role was.

The entire show was Stereotype City. It was hard to care about any of the characters. In addition to Witherspoon, I really disliked the teen cast as Aniston's daughter, Billy Crudup, and especially the creepy weatherman guy. The director of the fictional show had one emotion, misery. He did nothing but fall apart the whole series. The only character I would have liked to have seen more of or learned more about was Aniston's husband, but they didn't give him the time of day.

Back to the awards. Succession won for best TV drama.

Is anyone here watching the show?

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    Buck Henry (1930-2020) (5.00 / 1) (#25)
    by desertswine on Fri Jan 10, 2020 at 12:05:42 AM EST
    I'm FFing while streaming (none / 0) (#1)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Jan 05, 2020 at 07:34:29 PM EST
    Succession totally deserved to win.  

    I'm glad Chernobyl (5.00 / 1) (#2)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Jan 05, 2020 at 07:35:53 PM EST
    Is getting some love.  It was amazing.

    Bryan Cox (none / 0) (#3)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Jan 05, 2020 at 07:50:59 PM EST
    Also wins for Succession.  Also totally deserved.

    I'm so glad Missing Link won (none / 0) (#4)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Jan 05, 2020 at 07:56:17 PM EST
    I haven't seen it but it was the only nominated movie that was not a sequel or a remake

    Tarantino won for screenplay (none / 0) (#5)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Jan 05, 2020 at 07:59:09 PM EST
    I will not be surprised if he gets director and best movie.

    1917 (none / 0) (#6)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Jan 06, 2020 at 08:00:59 AM EST
    Got both.  Can't wait to see it.

    Geez (none / 0) (#7)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Jan 06, 2020 at 12:22:22 PM EST
    I fell asleep.  

    Once Upon A Time did win in its category.  Very glad.  It's special.  Needs multiple viewings.

    And the screenplay was the best.


    You and I will just have to disagree. (none / 0) (#9)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Mon Jan 06, 2020 at 04:55:26 PM EST
    Because quite honestly, I find nothing special about racist historical revisionism that celebrates white male d*ck-swinging while also repainting in pleasant pastel hues the Mayor Sam Yorty / Chief William Parker era of L.A. history, which was actually anything but special for women, minorities of color and the then-mostly closeted LGBTQ community.

    Yeah, I know that director / screenwriter Quentin Tarantino meant "Hollywood" to be seen as satire, but that stated intent presupposes that the film is funny. It wasn't. Rather, I found "Once Upon a Time ... in Hollywood" to be often offensive and purposely mean-spirited, and ultimately pathetic.

    Tarantino slurred Hispanic Americans with the cringe-worthy line "Don't cry in front of the Mexicans," which he obviously meant for laughs. Instead, it made my wife noticeably squirm in her seat and received very few chuckles from the majority non-white audience at the showing we attended in Hilo, HI.

    He also openly mocked the memory of the late Chinese-American actor Bruce Lee by playing to racist stereotyping. Again, the majority non-white audience sat in near-total silence during that particular sequence. It clearly made most of them uncomfortable.

    Finally, in so cavalierly dispensing with the historical facts about the Manson Family murders of Aug. 1969, and further mischaracterizing its perpetrators as drug-addled buffoons who could -- SPOILER ALERT -- be easily dispatched by his white male action heroes in a particularly vicious orgy of Tarantino-esque violence (Leonardo DiCaprio's incineration of Manson cult member Susan Atkins with a flamethrower was a really nice touch), the director reduced the harsh reality of the actual atrocities to a light and frothy level of Hollywood cliché. The memory of the late Sharon Tate and her fellow murder victims deserved far better respect, as did their surviving kin.

    And so, I'll conclude by paraphrasing L.A. Times culture critic Mary McNamara's remarks from last July about "Once Upon a Time ... in Hollywood." We deserve better than MAGA-inspired nostalgia p0rn which openly pines for a non-existent era in America when men were truly men, women were frivolous eye candy (or b*tchy nags), Asians were suspicious and inscrutable, and the only people who spoke Spanish were the busboys, gardeners and housekeepers.

    That's all.


    You and I (none / 0) (#10)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Jan 06, 2020 at 05:52:47 PM EST
    And the Golden Globe voters.

    And I will predict the Oscar voters.  If it loses at Oscar time it will be to 1917.  I don't think it will.

    No offense but you didn't get it and apparently neither did a Mary.


    And it was funny. (none / 0) (#11)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Jan 06, 2020 at 05:53:53 PM EST
    Don't really feel the need to defend it (none / 0) (#12)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Jan 06, 2020 at 06:01:39 PM EST
    The week

    Once Upon a Time... in Hollywood gains momentum

    Once Upon a Time... in Hollywood, on the other hand, had a great showing, scoring the most wins of any film with three.

    This included the top Best Motion Picture - Musical or Comedy prize, while Quentin Tarantino also grabbed a screenplay award some thought would go to Marriage Story and Brad Pitt won for his supporting performance. Already a heavy favorite, Once Upon a Time... in Hollywood is looking more and more like the Best Picture frontrunner, especially with an Oscars voting body that loves films about the magic of the movies.

    Historical (none / 0) (#13)
    by FlJoe on Mon Jan 06, 2020 at 06:02:10 PM EST
    revisionism? Are you saying  the Hollywood of that era wasn't ruled by white male d**k swingers?

    Of course they lived in a pleasantly colored bubble, with tinsel even!

    Celebratory maybe, but only in a way that Hollywood would celebrate itself when forced to look in a mirror. I think Tarantino captured that, a very real fantasy land where fame and vanity were the only true virtues.


    Even more (none / 0) (#14)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Jan 06, 2020 at 06:12:53 PM EST
    It did an amazing thing.  A thing Tarantino has done before by changing the fate of Hitler in Inglorious Basterds.  Which was glorious.

    He took the absolute worst thing that ever happened in Hollywood and gave it a happy Hollywood ending.  Which is such a wonderful thing when, watching it,  you of course know what actually happened and you are braced for the worst and it doesn't happen.  And gave the loser killers exactly the fate they deserved.  With cartoonishly over the top violence.  To cal it revisionist really could not more completely miss the point.


    The Bruce Lee thing (none / 0) (#15)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Jan 06, 2020 at 06:13:34 PM EST
    Had me on the floor.

    Mike Moh on playing Bruce Lee (none / 0) (#16)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Jan 06, 2020 at 06:49:44 PM EST

    "I'm not going to tell you what the original script had exactly, but when I read it, I was so conflicted because he's my hero," Moh said. "Bruce in my mind was literally a god. He wasn't a person to me, he was a superhero. And I think that's how most people view Bruce."

    Moh spoke specifically about a scene in which he faces off with Brad Pitt's Hollywood stuntman Cliff Booth, a moment of comedy in the film but also one of challenging physical violence, according to the actor, who next appears in the upcoming "Killerman."

    "I knew from the jump, Tarantino loves Bruce Lee; he reveres him," Moh said. "In the film it was a challenge -- `best two out of three.' I got the first point -- I knocked him on his ass first. And Bruce at that time was so cocky and maybe got a little excited and he didn't know Cliff Booth has killed dozens of people with his bare hands -- and that's what people may not realize up until that moment in the film. It's a hugely important scene -- what better way to show how dangerous Cliff is than for him to show up and even match him for a little bit with Bruce?"

    Moh detailed the motivations behind the scene. "At that moment when I get slammed, that's when Bruce realizes, oh shit, this guy is not just a stunt guy," he said. "Because Bruce didn't always have the most affection for stuntmen; he didn't respect all of them, because he was better than all the stunt guys. So after I got slammed, I get serious. And then we get into this scuffle, which is stopped -- so it's a tie. I can see how people might think Bruce got beat because of the impact with the car, but you give me five more seconds and Bruce would have won. So I know people are going to be up in arms about it, but when I went into my deep dive of studying Bruce, he more than anybody wanted people to know he's human."

    Tarantino slurred Hispanic Americans (none / 0) (#18)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Tue Jan 07, 2020 at 11:45:51 AM EST
    Tarantino slurred Hispanic Americans with the cringe-worthy line "Don't cry in front of the Mexicans," which he obviously meant for laughs. Instead, it made my wife noticeably squirm in her seat and received very few chuckles from the majority non-white audience at the showing we attended in Hilo, HI.

    It would seem Mexicans disagree with you.

    Por ejemplo, just some of 100's of similar comments:

    Jorge R. Gutierrez
    ‏Verified account @mexopolis

    My favorite line in the movie is "Don't cry in front of the Mexicans." I cried laughing.

    Gustavo Lopez
    5 days ago
    In Mexico, all people laughed at this scene when i saw it

    Gabriela Lopetegui
    1 week ago
    I was looking for this clip LOL! Loved this movie, I've seen it already 3 times and planning on watching it again soon. Also priceless soundtrack🥰🥰

    Rene Lopez
    3 months ago
    I'm Mexican myself. I laughed because traditionally we've been known for our machismo and for seeing men crying without being drunk as being a sissy. I don't see it that way because I'm from another generation, but my grandparents' generation was brought up that way in Mexico. This is one of my new favorite movies from Tarantino. I love the way he depicts Mexicans in his films, even though he hardly uses them.

    fyi. Despite your apparent observation of some vague similarity in skin tone, the non-white Hawaiians you sat in the theater with = / = Mexicans.


    True (none / 0) (#19)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jan 07, 2020 at 11:49:30 AM EST
    About the soundtrack

    Just found this about Tarantino/Lee (none / 0) (#20)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Tue Jan 07, 2020 at 12:41:48 PM EST
    I had no idea.

    "Bruce Lee was kind of an arrogant guy," Tarantino told press about depicting the actor in such a cocky manner. "The way he was talking, I didn't just make a lot of that up. I heard him say things like that to that effect. If people are saying, `Well he never said he could beat up Mohammad Ali,' well yeah he did. Alright? Not only did he say that but his wife, Linda Lee, said that in her first biography I ever read. She absolutely said that."

    I have read that (none / 0) (#21)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jan 07, 2020 at 12:50:33 PM EST
    About Ali

    Not sure OUATIH (none / 0) (#22)
    by ragebot on Wed Jan 08, 2020 at 12:10:22 PM EST
    needs multiple viewings.  I found it strangely attractive but am not sure I will view it again; at least for a while.

    Several times while watching it thought, wait a sec did it really happen that way.  Of interest to me was that Tarantino reached out to Roman and Sharon's sister and after them viewing the script got their blessing.  

    Also had contact with the Lee camp and maybe/kinda/sorta changed the script so the fight was a draw rather than a clear win for Pitt.  Hard for me to watch lee get thrown into the side of a car hard enough to bash the door in and think it was a draw.  As a senior in high school I snuck into the Miami Beach Convention Center after the Clay/Liston fight started and managed to get an autograph from Clay.  I still remember the name change to Ali and always liked and respected Ali; so when Lee boasted about being able to beat Ali I thought he was a jerk.  While I never thought Lee was a dancer like some martial arts guy Ali was bigger, stronger, had a longer reach, and mimicked the way martial artists punched.  I view Ali as one of the all time great boxers who would have easily beaten the smaller and weaker Lee in the ring.

    I first started paying attention to Taratino after seeing Pulp Fiction.  Even with all his other work my favorite effort from him was From Dusk Til Dawn.  He did write the screen play and did a decent job of acting in a major role; even if it was directed by Rodriguez.  Due to massive delays, Taratino started working on From Dusk Til Dawn before Reservoir Dogs, only was released in 1996.  But to me From Dusk Til Dawn was classic Taratino.  Over the top fantasy (vampires who can shape shift at will to human form fighting bank robbers and a pastor in crisis and his family in a very strange bar built on the top of an old Aztec temple).  Not to mention plenty of blood and gore and in the end a basically happy ending with all the vampires being killed in the sun light.

    Truth be told Once Upon A Time In Hollywood's ending paled compared to what happened in the "happy ending" of From Dusk Til Dawn.

    As for Tarantino's status I will point that simply looking at the cast of his movies should raise eyebrows.  Hard to think of anyone else who could amass that many first tier talent.


    I guess it's about how you love movies (none / 0) (#23)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Jan 08, 2020 at 12:25:22 PM EST
    I have seen it 2 and something times.  It's running now.

    There are so many movie in jokes that if you are into in jokes you simply don't get them all the frist time.  It IS a movie about movies and how they effect us.

    I seriously just noticed this moments ago.  I have actually left comments here about how much it irks me that the only time anyone coughs in a movie they are dying.

    Leo hacked through the whole thing



    Show biz kids making movies (none / 0) (#24)
    by ragebot on Wed Jan 08, 2020 at 01:26:10 PM EST

    Of themselves you know they
    Don't give a fU** about anybody else

    With credit to the Dan.  I get your point and am aware of what I will call insider jokes like coughing and dying.  On the other hand it seemed very reasonable for Leo to be coughing after a hard night of drinking and smoking.  In fact I sometimes wondered how he failed to make the connection between taking a drag on a cigarette and quickly coughing right after doing it.


    You can say that about just about every show (none / 0) (#8)
    by McBain on Mon Jan 06, 2020 at 01:15:21 PM EST
    They could have (and I think should have) made it a 4 episode series...

    I didn't watch the GG but I did catch some of Gervais.  I thought his opening was pretty good.

    Didn't watch the show (none / 0) (#17)
    by CST on Mon Jan 06, 2020 at 09:16:00 PM EST
    I did see Michelle Williams speech which I was a fan of although it's obviously not for everyone.

    I just got through Succession and I like it a lot, more than I thought I would. To be honest I don't really get all the fuss about Once upon a Time. I thought it was fine, even good, but not great. But that's generally my opinion of Tarantino with Inglorious Bastards being the exception of the post-2000 era.

    OSCAR nominations in one hour (none / 0) (#26)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Jan 13, 2020 at 06:59:27 AM EST
    The Oscars 2020 nominations announcement for all 24 Oscar® categories will be take place in a two-part live presentation on Monday, January 13. Actor and producer John Cho and actor/writer/producer Issa Rae will host the two-part live presentation from approximately 5:18am PT to approximately 5:41am PT, via global live stream on Oscar.com, Oscars.org, the Academy's digital platforms-Twitter, YouTube, Facebook-a satellite feed and local broadcasters. You can watch the Oscar nominations announcement live stream below and, following the announcement, find the full list of Oscar nominees 2020 here on Oscar.com.

    Here they are (none / 0) (#27)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Jan 13, 2020 at 08:33:19 AM EST
    Hollywood Reporter

    Joker could be a dark horse for best picture.  Like, really dark.

    'Joker' leads the nominees with a total of 11 mentions, including best picture, where it'll compete alongside '1917,' 'Ford v Ferrari,' 'The Irishman,' 'Jojo Rabbit,' 'Little Women,' 'Marriage Story,' 'Once Upon a Time in Hollywood' and 'Parasite.'

    I would love for Joker to win (none / 0) (#28)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Jan 13, 2020 at 08:47:00 AM EST
    Also love if Cynthia Erivo wins for playing Harriet Tubman.  Also love it if 1917 wins for its invisible effects..

    None of this is likely.  Invisible effects never win against cute furry animals even tho it's a helluva lot more difficult.


    Watching The Lighthouse right now (none / 0) (#29)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Jan 13, 2020 at 09:13:56 AM EST
    Ha (none / 0) (#30)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Jan 13, 2020 at 03:17:33 PM EST
    Ok, I got through that.

    What the hell did 'The Lighthouse' even mean?

    The events that take place defy the confines of plot summary, let alone any clear explanations for what it all means.

    Nah, it's like he took a h0moerotic Eraserhead and made it into the best Twilight Zone episode EVAH.