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    I can't breath (5.00 / 4) (#2)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Jul 17, 2019 at 02:57:58 PM EST
    Haven't seen this mentioned here

    Barr over rules his civil rights division

    The fact that the only person from this episode who is in jail is the guy who took the video pretty much tells you all you need to know.

    William Barr's actions (5.00 / 3) (#3)
    by KeysDan on Wed Jul 17, 2019 at 03:41:16 PM EST
    should take the nation's breath away. And, the officer, Daniel Pantaleo, is still on the NYC police force.

    Barr is carrying on as well on other fronts: The feds have ended the probe into hush money payments prior to the election/campaign finance violations related to Story Daniels and Karen McDougal.

    Since it appears that a Trump impeachment inquiry is not in the cards, there really does not seem to be any downside to opening impeachment inquires at lower ranks, from Barr down to Supervisory officers overseeing the squalid conditions and inhumane treatment of asylum seekers at the border.

    Attorney General Barr's role in the citizenship census fiasco, along with that of Wilbur Ross, needs to be investigated by the House. The presentation of "contrived" (i.e., false) information to the Supreme Court, and the shifting rationale presented for expedited hearing by the Supreme Court are among issues to be looked into. Contempt of Congress is going pretty slow, if it is going at all.

     Maybe, if we can't impeach high, we should start impeaching low. A chilling effect might result for those claiming to be just following orders. There will be individualized accountability. Trump may skate, but you will be the fall guy.


    The House voted to (5.00 / 3) (#6)
    by KeysDan on Wed Jul 17, 2019 at 05:35:07 PM EST
    hold two sitting cabinet officers in criminal contempt of congress for obstructing a probe into the administration's failed attempt to include a citizenship question on the 2020 Census form.  Barr and Ross withheld documents that that been subpoenaed.  The vote was 230 to 198, all Republicans and four Democrats voted no; Amash (l independent) and 229 Democrats voted yes.

    Barr had urged Speaker Pelosi to postpone the vote, shortly before the vote went to the full House.  A pretty serious action. Barr should be dis-barred, in my view.


    Tomorrow morning (none / 0) (#8)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Jul 17, 2019 at 08:30:09 PM EST
    Just before the Epstein show a judge in NY is unsealing all the previously sealed information around the hush money case Barr just shut down.  Including information the government wanted to keep sealed for the protection of "third parties".  The judge refused.  All of it is being released.  

    Could be good.  11 eastern.  Epstein 11:30


    Can't believe (none / 0) (#9)
    by KeysDan on Wed Jul 17, 2019 at 09:26:46 PM EST
    Barr will not be up early to throw some legal monkey wrench into the judge's decision.  

    Based on everthing I've read (4.00 / 3) (#33)
    by McBain on Fri Jul 19, 2019 at 04:24:55 PM EST
    this (no charges) is the correct decision.  Garner's death was the result of several factors including his physical shape and his decision to resist arrest.

    I'm shocked (none / 0) (#164)
    by Yman on Wed Jul 31, 2019 at 09:05:36 AM EST
    The white conservatives think that contemp-of-cop warrants summary execution.

    No way.


    "Send her back" (5.00 / 1) (#10)
    by MKS on Wed Jul 17, 2019 at 10:59:01 PM EST
    Godwin's law has been repealed for Trump, no?

    These rallies do have a precedent.

    Clearly the new boogy person (5.00 / 1) (#11)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jul 18, 2019 at 06:40:29 AM EST
    There is a thing going around about her that I will not repeat that I hope is not true.  Not because I think there is anything terribly wrong with what she is accused of doing but because it's the kind of thing that could allow them to destroy her public life.  Which would be a tragedy.

    Snopes lists it as "unproven".

    It's the kind of thing that could give them cover for this vile behavior.

    Trump repeated it in one of his driveway performances.  Probably other times.  Seems like a pretty easy thing to "prove" if true.  And if it is Trump will try to destroy her.  And it might work.


    Lucky for tRump (5.00 / 1) (#12)
    by jmacWA on Thu Jul 18, 2019 at 06:44:16 AM EST
    that he got one of the 'fake' news organizations to pose the question to him as he 'just happened' to be leaving for his rally.  Talk about setting up the chant for the evening... unfcuking believable

    Capt here is a link for you (1.00 / 1) (#43)
    by ragebot on Fri Jul 19, 2019 at 06:55:25 PM EST
    Omar does have a complicated past in terms of marriage.  One thing that stuck out to me is she seems to have had "religious marriages" and a "civil divorce"; but I am not up to speed on the legal meaning of these terms.

    The bottom line is there seem to have been some technical violations related to money from her campaign being used for some unspecified purpose that she got fined for and also had to repay.

    Since Omar has not, and most likely will not, released her tax returns the joint filing with someone she was not legally married to may never be fully understood.  She did have an accounting firm review her tax returns and they found issues which were retroactively fully corrected according to the firm.

    The local paper has started investigating several aspects of Omar's life.  This includes the corrected tax issues, the strange time line of her having kids with one guy, then marrying another guy while filing a joint tax return with the first guy (educated guess this was what the accounting firm had her correct), then divorcing the guy she married so she could go back to the first guy and have another kid and then marring the father of her kids.  Not to mention that for some period of time all three of them lived in the same house.

    I get it when Donald says some things are none of your business; problem stories like this get lots of eyeballs looking at them and the MSM will do almost anything to get eyeballs.  Especially since Omar seems to be trying to get in the spotlight.

    Omar's not releasing her tax returns and refusing to comment on some of the issues the MSM is asking questions about will only make the MSM dig deeper.  This link indicates some MSM outlets have been asking questions not just Omar and her campaign but contacting her family members in the UK.  I don't see this story ending anytime soon.


    Impressive (5.00 / 2) (#46)
    by FlJoe on Fri Jul 19, 2019 at 07:12:42 PM EST
    research on some one who is roughly the 3000th most important person in Washington.

    Do you get paid for doing the legwork for the hate machine or is just for fun?

    I'm sure "drawing eyeballs" away from more important players is the whole idea and of course the idiot media fall from it.

    Tax returns. Really???


    Truly appalling (5.00 / 1) (#47)
    by MKS on Fri Jul 19, 2019 at 07:36:42 PM EST
    Anything to support the racist rants of Trump.


     But I am pretty sure Hillary was too generous in her assessment about how many were in the "basket" she referred to.


    Yes (none / 0) (#44)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jul 19, 2019 at 07:05:32 PM EST
    Most of this is none of our business and nothing but clickbait.

    I'm pretty sure there are lots of politicians, most of them men, who would not want the details of their past romances/cohabitation

    As far as the campaign money stuff.  This stuff happens all the time.  Seems she did what she was supposed to do.

    To be clear

    I'm all in for Ilhan.  I like how she has handled this, mostly.  Tho I agree talking about it is probably inevitable.  I have never heard her say anything I disagreed with.  Saying Israel is an overly aggressive militaristic nightmare that rivals our own is not being "anti Jewish".  


    "It's all about the Benjamins, baby," (none / 0) (#53)
    by RickyJim on Sat Jul 20, 2019 at 09:16:47 AM EST
    Omar responded, a reference to Benjamin Franklin, whose face is on the $100 bill.

    That tweet generated a response from a Jewish journalist who asked Omar who she believed was "paying American politicians to be pro-Israel". The congresswoman replied: "AIPAC," referring to influential pro-Israel lobby group, the American Israeli Public Affairs Committee. Aipac does not contribute to political campaigns though there is a long tradition of lawmakers from both parties attending its annual conference and congressional trips to Israel.

    Omar later took back this statement.  Indeed, the kind of pressure that Israel supporters exert is much more varied than just financial.  So the "all" is wrong.  See, e.g., the book by Mearsheimer and Walt.

    What (none / 0) (#54)
    by FlJoe on Sat Jul 20, 2019 at 10:19:26 AM EST
    kills me is that tRump said essentially the same thing  
    In 2015, after all, Trump told a meeting of the Republican Jewish Coalition, "You're not going to support me, because I don't want your money." Speaking to the group this April, he called Benjamin Netanyahu "your prime minister."
    Just seconds ago I saw a CNN pundit dercry Omar's "anti-semitic statements for the umteenth time this week, while only occasionally noting tRump's equivalent ones.

    How is it that the leap is constantly (5.00 / 2) (#61)
    by Chuck0 on Sat Jul 20, 2019 at 05:16:00 PM EST
    made that criticism of Israel (you know, the GOVERNMENT) is anti-semitism? Because believe me, I have been critical of many of Israel's policies towards Palestinians for many years. And I am no fan of Netanyahu. Never have been.

    That said, I have no issue with Jewish people. AS a religion or race. Quite the opposite. Although I am a devout atheist and no fan of religion in general, I quite admire Jews. Their contributions to civilization are many and impressive.

    I believe Omar's prior statements were aimed at the government of Israel, not the Jewish people. I am tired of these things being equated as one and the same.


    FWIW (5.00 / 2) (#64)
    by Chuck0 on Sat Jul 20, 2019 at 09:15:11 PM EST
    Trumpenfuhrer is making the same leap with his minions. He is equating criticism of him and his administration with criticism of country. Sadly his minions are too stupid to understand the difference

    Agreed. (none / 0) (#76)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Mon Jul 22, 2019 at 01:57:23 PM EST
    One can certainly support Israel's right to exist as an independent nation, and also abhor and denounce the outrageous Apartheid-like policies of its corrupt Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, which have targeted not only the indigenous Palestinians of the occupied West Bank but also that country's own Israeli Arab citizens. The two are not mutually exclusive.

    In fact just this past week, Netanyahu authorized the displacement and removal of Palestinians from the east Jerusalem neighborhood of Wadi Hummus, presumably to accommodate the resettlement of even more Eastern European Jews recently arrived from Ukraine.

    This myopically bad policy actually undermines Israeli security over the long term, by further stoking the enmity of Palestinian Arabs who presently constitute nearly a quarter of Israel's population, in addition to those residing in the occupied West Bank.

    Equating the Jewish people overall with this militantly right-wing Israeli government is a grave disservice to the former.



    Well, then, Donald, I guess (none / 0) (#81)
    by Peter G on Mon Jul 22, 2019 at 04:55:22 PM EST
    that makes you an anti-semite. ;)

    Yes, I've been told that. (5.00 / 1) (#93)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Tue Jul 23, 2019 at 02:09:41 PM EST
    But speaking for myself only, a true friend of Israel ought to oppose Prime minister Netanyahu's corrupt and ultimately ruinous folly, and certainly shouldn't further facilitate or enable it.

    Meanwhile, over in the United Kingdom and thanks to a quirk in that country's political rules, 92,153 dues-paying members of the governing Conservative Party (less than 0.5% of the total British electorate) looked to Donald Trump and the Republicans, said "Ah-HAH! Two can play at that game!", and proceeded to elect the perpetually bombastic and disheveled Boris Johnson as the party's new leader -- and by default, the new British prime minister.

    We're seeing breakdowns in the West's democratic institutions by virtue of those institutions' limitations and our own failure to be vigilant. Let's face it, we let down our guard. And now in the near distance, we can hear the battle cry of the far-right: "Yah-HOOOoooo ...!!! I'm cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs - cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs - cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs ..."

    Despite all that, I'm still confident that we'll get through this period -- no doubt, certainly worse for wear, yet we'll nevertheless survive. But as the Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr. once cautioned us 56 years ago, "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity."

    It's likely going to take many years to repair the damage inflicted upon our body politic, thanks to this dangerously irresponsible exercise in self-assured governance by the emotionally immature and intellectually unbalanced. This is the price we pay for our failure to heed Dr. King's warning.

    Aloha. ;-D


    Dershowitz (none / 0) (#83)
    by jondee on Mon Jul 22, 2019 at 06:25:28 PM EST
    when he doesn't quite have grounds to call someone an antisemite, labels them Holaust minimizers.

    At least that's what he did with Norman Finkelstein, whose mother was a Holocaust survivor.


    He also disgustingly (none / 0) (#84)
    by jondee on Mon Jul 22, 2019 at 07:02:22 PM EST
    insinuated based on no evidence, that Finkelstein's mother had survived the camps by being a kapo, which was a prisoner who was entrusted by the SS with keeping the other prisoners in line.

    What is it with (none / 0) (#91)
    by MKS on Tue Jul 23, 2019 at 02:03:27 PM EST

    Doe he support Trump because he and Trump have similar Epstein problems?  


    Dershowitz has been acting (5.00 / 1) (#110)
    by jondee on Thu Jul 25, 2019 at 08:53:35 PM EST
    like Bibi has him on retainer for awhile now. He publicly condemned the Iran nuclear deal and has been talking up his relationship with his "dear friend" and big-time Trump supporter, the billionaire casino mogul Sheldon Adelson.

    All-in-all he's been doing his best recently to act like an anti-Israel conspiracy theorist's wet dream.


    As is the case for most curmudgeons, ... (none / 0) (#97)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Tue Jul 23, 2019 at 02:33:54 PM EST
    ... liberal and conservative alike, the times have simply passed Alan Dershowitz by and he's made little or no effort to keep up and adapt.

    We constantly remind our kids and other young people that the world doesn't owe them anything and that it's therefore critical to stay contemporaneously engaged. Guys like Dershowitz who wallow in their own nostalgia are a reminder that we really ought to follow our own counsel.

    I predict that when Dershowitz finally passes from the scene, he'll be replaced by Glenn Greenwald -- if he hasn't been already.



    Very interesting comment (5.00 / 1) (#98)
    by MKS on Tue Jul 23, 2019 at 03:07:03 PM EST
    I will mull that one over....

    Yes, one must always realize that no one is irreplaceable....and everyone must always adapt or perish...

    And Greenwald....he certainly likes to parade around his self-righteousness....


    ... in which we live, while we won't necessarily perish, we do run a serious risk of being left behind and becoming irrelevant.

    At one time, Alan Dershowitz was a renowned and celebrated civil libertarian, and there's absolutely no question as to his brilliant legal mind, which I still respect.

    But personally, I think the celebrity went to his head and he literally started to perceive and conduct himself as the smartest person in the room, particularly in matters outside his immediate field of expertise in which he was just another guy with a personal opinion.

    And in that regard, Dershowitz has since proved himself to be remarkably intolerant of dissenting viewpoints, particularly when the topic of discussion is Israel. His overt anti-Arab / anti-Palestinian bias is both shocking and disheartening to see in someone who otherwise still holds himself in high regard as a civil rights advocate.

    Speaking for myself only, I think Dershowitz is a Democratic Party dinosaur whose immediate frame of reference was arrested for loitering sometime in the late 1970s or early '80s, and has yet to be released on its own recognizance.



    He lost me (none / 0) (#104)
    by MKS on Tue Jul 23, 2019 at 06:15:07 PM EST
    when he supported torture.  Some civil libertarian.

    And that support for torture ... (none / 0) (#116)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Fri Jul 26, 2019 at 02:55:31 PM EST
    ... is directly reflective of Alan Dershowitz's overt Anti-Arab bias, in which he all too frequently refers to Arabic peoples in blatantly dehumanizing terms. I remember one recent public discussion on television in which he bluntly stated that they were little better than dogs.

    It's both ironic and sad that Dershowitz appears unable to recognize the parallels between his own demagoguery and that which was heard in Nazi Germany back in the 1930s, well before the Final Solution became an established Nazi government policy in 1941.

    The roots of the Holocaust are anchored in Adolf Hitler's anti-Jewish policies from the early years of his rule -- the normalization of discrimination and hate speech, then the detention of Jewish rabbis and teachers as "criminals," followed by the denial of basic rights to Jews that were enjoyed by other German citizens, and finally, the wholesale stripping of their citizenship and loss of their property rights.

    How was that any different from the xenophobic and dehumanizing policies that the Netanyahu government are presently pursuing, which target both Palestinian residents in Gaza and the occupied West Bank and Israeli Arab citizens in majority-Arab cities like Nazareth and Beersheba -- or, for that matter, the Trump regime's cruel persecution of Central American refugees along our own southern borders?

    There isn't any difference, as far as I'm concerned. I'm someone who is very reticent to use Nazi analogies, given the propensity of some to fling the term "Nazi" cavalierly at others for the mere temerity of have disagreed with them politically. But I think it's wholly appropriate to note that 85 years ago in Germany, Alan Dershowitz would not have been allowed to espouse his views in the media. And 75 years ago, he would not have been allowed to live.

    Remembering the gradual progression of Germany's anti-Semitic policies, from the race-baiting rhetoric and harassment in the early 1930s to outright state-sanctioned genocide less than a decade later, makes it all the more imperative that we bear public witness to what we are seeing today in real time, if the term "Never Again" is to have any real meaning beyond that of a trite historical cliché recited by rote at Holocaust remembrance ceremonies.



    And (none / 0) (#55)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Jul 20, 2019 at 11:30:52 AM EST
    They are both right

    The (none / 0) (#59)
    by FlJoe on Sat Jul 20, 2019 at 03:06:39 PM EST
    pro Israel lobbies are among the oldest and strongest in DC, yet they are treated as sacred by both sides.

    Do you, now? (none / 0) (#100)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Tue Jul 23, 2019 at 04:10:45 PM EST
    ragebot: "I get it when Donald says some things are none of your business[.]"

    Do you really? Because your gossipy post about Rep. Omar certainly suggests otherwise. Look, some families have complicated personal lives. Whether or not that's by their own doing is entirely beside the point and irrelevant.

    I know that my own family is certainly no different. My mother, three siblings and I have 12 marriages between us. Throw in my five cousins and aunt on my mother's side, and that number bumps up to 22. Suffice to say that we've experienced some hot messes which are best left private.

    Everyone deserves a zone of privacy in their lives by which they can conduct themselves as they see fit. I don't care whether the person in question is a politician, a celebrity, a royal from Britain's House of Windsor or merely your next-door neighbor. Nothing good comes from prying into the personal affairs of others, particularly when such matters are really none of your concern. So, if you don't appreciate unwarranted intrusions into your own life by nosy busybodies, then please extend to others the same courtesy and respect which you would demand for yourself.



    The thing about Omar (none / 0) (#14)
    by CST on Thu Jul 18, 2019 at 09:14:27 AM EST
    Is that her identity means she's safe in her district but also not going anywhere else politically. Not with a scarf on. Someone like that is someone that Trump has no power over.  No power to give and no power to take away.  Her strength is her own.

    A woman like that makes him crazy.   Pelosi is a bit different because her role means she has to try and work with him.

    He can't really hurt her politically. As long as she has armed guards of course...


    I hope so (none / 0) (#16)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jul 18, 2019 at 12:04:42 PM EST
    At the very least it could give the Trumpenfuror the perfect target.  It has everything, Islam, immigration, woman of color.

    Trumpenfuhrer. (5.00 / 1) (#17)
    by Chuck0 on Thu Jul 18, 2019 at 01:10:35 PM EST
    I like that. Can I use that instead of Bone Spurs?

    I'm here in MN (none / 0) (#18)
    by Ga6thDem on Thu Jul 18, 2019 at 01:24:23 PM EST
    My aunt lives in her district. They would love to get rid of her but Trumps attacks only help her.

    I have no doubt (none / 0) (#19)
    by CST on Thu Jul 18, 2019 at 02:17:55 PM EST
    That there are people in that district who would prefer someone else but it's no accident that she was elected in the same district that was previously held by Keith Ellison.  There are a lot of people in Boston who are upset that Pressley beat Capuano - but she still won - and I would agree the attacks from Trump have only helped her shore up support.

    There's something to be said for having a large cohesive base in a primary.  It's also the youngest district in the state and trending younger.


    It is (none / 0) (#21)
    by Ga6thDem on Thu Jul 18, 2019 at 04:09:45 PM EST
    The antisemitism that they have a problem with. I remember Ellison got accused of it but never used antisemitic tropes like she has and apparently constituent services are not good. She would have to be taken out in the primary since the district is deep blue. She only got 48% in the primary.

    48% (none / 0) (#22)
    by CST on Thu Jul 18, 2019 at 04:43:28 PM EST
    In a six person race, and 18% more than any other candidate.  I'm not saying its not possible but as you said, Trump attacking her is only going to increase her chances of reelection.  He can't hurt her politically, and she has her base in the primary. You don't need everyone, especially in lower turnout races, you just need people who will show up for you.

    There is a reason (none / 0) (#23)
    by Repack Rider on Fri Jul 19, 2019 at 10:20:54 AM EST
    Fake news. (none / 0) (#24)
    by Chuck0 on Fri Jul 19, 2019 at 11:09:49 AM EST
    They were all paid to be there.



    Yeah! (none / 0) (#26)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Fri Jul 19, 2019 at 01:10:47 PM EST
    And they were probably bused in from Chicago, too, by the Obamas and Hillary Clinton. Lock them up.



    Like I said (none / 0) (#25)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Jul 19, 2019 at 11:13:21 AM EST
    Trumps attacks have helped her.

    CaptHowdy: "There is a thing going around about her that I will not repeat that I hope is not true. Not because I think there is anything terribly wrong with what she is accused of doing but because it's the kind of thing that could allow them to destroy her public life. Which would be a tragedy."

    ... and I'd really like to keep it that way. It's a despicable rumor that'd been merrily spread within the far-right diaspora by the pathetic and sorry-a$$ed likes of former Oxycontin addict Rush Limbaugh, convicted felon Dinesh D'Souza and trust fund baby-turned-white supremacist Tucker Carlson. That should tell you everything you need to know about it.

    Sometime in the near future, I think we as a society would do well to reacquaint ourselves with the term, "It's none of my business," learn to seriously embrace it as one of life's primary guiding principles, and then use it to shut down the gossip-mongers.



    Well, sure (none / 0) (#37)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jul 19, 2019 at 06:20:58 PM EST
    My point was not everyone agrees and the "thing" is the kind of thing that could make the fake birth certificate thing seem harmless.

    I have not rechecked snopes but "unverified" is not the kind of thing they probably would have said about the birth certificate.  

    Certainly it's none of our business.  As are most of the things that destroy the lives of politicians

    I do think so far this has sadly been good for both her and Trump.  I do think if unverified becomes true that could change.


    I just heard (none / 0) (#38)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jul 19, 2019 at 06:24:01 PM EST
    Trumps approval is 49.

    Which just absolutely blows my mind.  I don't want to believe it but here we are.


    That scared (none / 0) (#50)
    by KeysDan on Fri Jul 19, 2019 at 09:49:05 PM EST
    me.  Checked at Fivethirtyeight which reports 42.7%.  Some individual pollsters have him up, such as Rasmussen ---which usually runs higher.

    I think that was NBC (none / 0) (#51)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jul 19, 2019 at 10:12:39 PM EST
    RCP (none / 0) (#52)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jul 19, 2019 at 10:15:41 PM EST
    is 45

    Rass is 50


    As her brother's sister, Omar already had ... (none / 0) (#77)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Mon Jul 22, 2019 at 02:15:25 PM EST
    ... the right to sponsor his entry into this country, so the odds are better than even that the story is not true. The bottom line here is that there is no such thing as "good gossip." Gossip is maliciously and heedlessly destructive, even if that's not necessarily the intent of those who are discussing such topics passively, as we're doing here. Far better to just tell the gossip-mongers in our lives to STFU.

    The (none / 0) (#42)
    by FlJoe on Fri Jul 19, 2019 at 06:38:10 PM EST
    speed in which the hate machine is revved up, from top to bottom and back up again is terrifying.

    Today's press gaggle was a "two minute hate" fest, everybody shrugs, things keep getting darker by the day.


    Yes (none / 0) (#45)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jul 19, 2019 at 07:10:33 PM EST
    The "media" loves this.  The more lurid the better.  The more edgy and dangerous.  I honestly think they would like nothing more that to have a couple of weeks of solemn mourning and custom graphics for "a sad unfortunate death".  There would be hours and hours of clueless "debate" about who's fault it was.

    Yesterday (5.00 / 4) (#13)
    by FlJoe on Thu Jul 18, 2019 at 08:13:59 AM EST
    blatant racism became a central campaign tactic, normalized by the press and at least tacitly approved by at least90% of Republicans.

    Congresswoman Ilhan Omar (none / 0) (#56)
    by KeysDan on Sat Jul 20, 2019 at 11:37:03 AM EST
    became a US citizen about six years before Melania (nee Knavs) Trump.  On August 9, 2016, Trump stated that Melania would hold a news conference "over the next couple of weeks" to address reports that she violated immigration laws when she first came to the U.S. Melania was born in Slovenia.  "she has it so documented,"  Trump said.

    Of course, that was the conference that never was. And, Trump's in-laws subsequently became US citizens through family-based/chain immigration.

     This is of no concern to Republicans and other Trump deplorables, since their xenophobia is specialized on the basis of immigrants/asylum seekers who are black or brown.


    I have (none / 0) (#60)
    by Ga6thDem on Sat Jul 20, 2019 at 04:30:44 PM EST
    wondered the same thing. Where is Melania's immigration papers?

    She does not need papers (none / 0) (#62)
    by MKS on Sat Jul 20, 2019 at 07:34:18 PM EST
    Because people from places like Norway are preferred.  White?  Let 'em on in....

    It is all out in the open. Penn Law Professor has said, that America "better off with more whites and fewer nonwhites".


    Law Prof. Amy Wax (none / 0) (#63)
    by MKS on Sat Jul 20, 2019 at 07:34:51 PM EST
    Maybe she's campaiging (none / 0) (#65)
    by jondee on Sat Jul 20, 2019 at 09:15:28 PM EST
    to fill the Dershowitz's quest legal expert slot on Fox, for when Alan gets too hot to handle. Which could be soon.

    The whole (none / 0) (#66)
    by Ga6thDem on Sun Jul 21, 2019 at 06:22:26 AM EST
    college professors are liberal is really a myth.

    I haven't heard of (none / 0) (#75)
    by jondee on Mon Jul 22, 2019 at 01:41:48 PM EST
    any left-leaning organizations that encourage students to monitor their right-leaning professors and report on what they say in class.

    One would think that kind of thing would be unnecessary in the age of social media and lightning-fast communication, but apparently some conservative "think tanks" and foundations don't think so.


    Because (none / 0) (#80)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Jul 22, 2019 at 03:44:53 PM EST
    liberals don't think they need to monitor people who spew noxious thoughts into the public is the reason I would guess. Most of those people just end up shooting themselves in the foot.

    Truly with social media I honestly don't know why conservatives continue down that road but then I think most of them are struck in a mid 20th century mindset.


    Shades of Nuremberg. (5.00 / 2) (#15)
    by Chuck0 on Thu Jul 18, 2019 at 10:16:03 AM EST
    Louisiana cop (5.00 / 3) (#71)
    by Chuck0 on Sun Jul 21, 2019 at 07:10:26 PM EST
    suggests AOC should be shot.

    Someone, somewhere is going to end up dead over the BS. And the a$$hole at 1600 PA will deny any culpability.

    I am seeing a lot of stories of incidents of darker complected people being told to go back where they came from.

    I am running of out of ways to process this stuff anymore. I need to find some way to tune this garbage out. It is something new and more disgusting every day. This country is becoming the $hithole. It's not just trumpenfuhrer, but all those that support him. I don't want to live next door these people. Hell, I don't want to breathe same air as them. "Deplorable" was being nice.

    ... are members of our own families. I've already told more relatives than I'd like to admit -- mostly on my father's side, many of whom are indeed racist -- that if they truly value their continued relationship with us, then they should cease injecting their noxious anti-immigrant rhetoric and right-wing politics into our conversations because my own children are half-Latino and further, my own father- and mother-in-law were initially undocumented migras from Mexico before becoming U.S. citizens in the late 1980s.

    Mark A.R. Kleiman, 1951-2019 (5.00 / 1) (#72)
    by Peter G on Sun Jul 21, 2019 at 07:40:25 PM EST
    Founder of my other favorite blog, The Reality Based Community, a good friend of mine since college days, leading scholar of criminal justice policy, died today while attempting a kidney transplant. A sad day for marijuana policy reform, sentencing reform, and research-based progressive ideas in general.

    Sorry to hear of your friend. (5.00 / 3) (#74)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Mon Jul 22, 2019 at 11:46:08 AM EST
    His blog is very well-written and interesting.

    On another note. (5.00 / 1) (#73)
    by Chuck0 on Sun Jul 21, 2019 at 07:56:12 PM EST
    Happy National Ice Cream Day. I'm having some Ben & Jerrys this warm evening.

    The Nick Sandmann.. (5.00 / 3) (#127)
    by desertswine on Fri Jul 26, 2019 at 07:34:29 PM EST
    And dismissed (5.00 / 3) (#130)
    by KeysDan on Fri Jul 26, 2019 at 08:42:05 PM EST
    With prejudice......a final decision.p

    Ah, yes (5.00 / 1) (#131)
    by Repack Rider on Fri Jul 26, 2019 at 11:10:13 PM EST
    Let's harken back to those halcyon days on this very site just a few months ago, when some of our more cough conservative cough contributors were spiking the ball on the fifty yard line about this.

    Disappointing in my opinion but not surprising (none / 0) (#137)
    by McBain on Sat Jul 27, 2019 at 07:32:34 PM EST
    The media gets a lot of protection, even when they're awful

    First Amendent Protections (5.00 / 1) (#138)
    by MKS on Sat Jul 27, 2019 at 08:45:06 PM EST
    Killer Heat (none / 0) (#1)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Jul 17, 2019 at 02:48:35 PM EST
    `Off-the-charts' heat to affect millions in U.S. in coming decades

    Without any action to reduce global carbon emissions, parts of Florida and Texas would experience the equivalent in days of at least five months per year on average when the heat index--which includes humidity in its calculations--exceeds 100 degrees Fahrenheit. Most of those days will surpass 105 degrees before the end of the century.

    Right now, here, the heat index is 113.  It's so humid my one single pane window is steamed up on the outside.

    House votes to table (none / 0) (#4)
    by KeysDan on Wed Jul 17, 2019 at 05:17:32 PM EST
    Congressman Al Green's (D TX)article of impeachment--voting to table: Dem. 137 yea,95 nay, l present, 2 n.v.
    Rep. 194 yea, 0 nay, 3 n.v.
    Ind. l yea.
    Lopsided vote, but maybe a look at things to come.

    And, Judiciary Chair Nadler, was among the 95 nays. Nadler's spokesperson said the Chairman voted against killing the bill because it should have first come to his committee for consideration.

    I think it probably should have (none / 0) (#5)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Jul 17, 2019 at 05:33:47 PM EST
    That said, not sure Al's resolution was well timed or considered.

    Just that after all the illegal unconstitutional stuff he has done impeaching him because he said some dumb racist things sort of tends to detract from the real problems.

    Not that the president saying dumb racist things is not a problem but conspiring with a hostile foreign power to win an election, among other things, is way worse and that should be the center of anything that proceeds.


    Ran across this (none / 0) (#7)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Jul 17, 2019 at 07:06:21 PM EST
    It seems to explain a lot

    Unskilled and unaware of it: How difficulties in recognizing one's own incompetence lead to inflated self-assessments.
    © Request Permissions
    Kruger, Justin,Dunning, David
    Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, Vol 77(6), Dec 1999, 1121-1134
    People tend to hold overly favorable views of their abilities in many social and intellectual domains. The authors suggest that this overestimation occurs, in part, because people who are unskilled in these domains suffer a dual burden: Not only do these people reach erroneous conclusions and make unfortunate choices, but their incompetence robs them of the metacognitive ability to realize it. Across 4 studies, the authors found that participants scoring in the bottom quartile on tests of humor, grammar, and logic grossly overestimated their test performance and ability. Although their test scores put them in the 12th percentile, they estimated themselves to be in the 62nd. Several analyses linked this miscalibration to deficits in metacognitive skill, or the capacity to distinguish accuracy from error. Paradoxically, improving the skills of the participants, and thus increasing their metacognitive competence, helped them recognize the limitations of their abilities.

    Ah, yes - the "Dunning-Kruger Effect." (5.00 / 2) (#20)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Thu Jul 18, 2019 at 04:07:28 PM EST
    It's also known in the vernacular as "Mount Stupid." The folks who run Fox News are doubtless highly skilled practitioners of Dunning-Kruger, since they have their entire evening prime-time lineup and its loyal audience convinced that they are the best-informed people in America, when the God's-honest truth is completely otherwise.

    In that sense, I think we all know people who are so ignorant and stupid that they're rendered utterly incapable of realizing just how ignorant and stupid they actually are. It's an often insufferable characteristic which is often compounded by an overinflated sense of ego. (See also "Palin, former Alaska Gov. Sarah" and "Trump, Donald Sr. and Jr.")

    Self-awareness of one's own weaknesses and limitations is actually a valuable personal asset and a strength. And having worked in both the public and private sectors, one consistent trait I've noticed in egotistical bosses in a marked tendency to overestimate their own importance and worth to an organization or agency while concurrently undervaluing the contributions of their subordinates.

    It's a tried-and-true formula for demoralization and inefficiency, as employees who feel unappreciated tend to seek other opportunities and move on to greener pastures the first chance they get. Further, high turnover rates in staff tend to get one noticed by one's own superiors and / or board whose members are tasked with oversight, because having to constantly replace staff and train new employees both impedes production and costs money.

    Electing such intellectually self-crippled people to public office usually turns out very badly.

    Aloha. ;-D


    Credit scores (none / 0) (#27)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jul 19, 2019 at 02:46:31 PM EST
    Are so weird.  Mine just took a big leap in the positive direction and I have no idea why.

    It's another Trump economy (5.00 / 1) (#28)
    by jondee on Fri Jul 19, 2019 at 03:18:49 PM EST
    talking point, soon to be expounded upon in a series of tweets.

    Minority credit scores haven't been this good since the War of 1812.


    Ok, so (none / 0) (#29)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jul 19, 2019 at 03:21:26 PM EST
    There are Trump moles in Equifax altering credit scores to make the economy look better?

    I'm not arguing.  I guess it's as good an explanation as any.


    I haven't checked my credit score (none / 0) (#30)
    by desertswine on Fri Jul 19, 2019 at 03:54:32 PM EST
    ever.  Although the car salesman did when I bought my last car.  I don't have any idea what it was.

    Credit Karma (none / 0) (#31)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jul 19, 2019 at 04:21:42 PM EST
    Is easy and free

    Wouldn't be a bad idea.  I found this out almost by accident but it's kind of life changing.  Without saying the beginning or end the change was over 100 points.

    And as I said, I have no idea why.


    Hopefully that didn't break any rules (none / 0) (#32)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jul 19, 2019 at 04:22:41 PM EST
    Most credit cards now (none / 0) (#39)
    by Chuck0 on Fri Jul 19, 2019 at 06:33:45 PM EST
    offer you your credit score online when you log into your account. I know I can get mine from at least 4 or 5 different accounts.

    The Twitler campaign is selling (none / 0) (#34)
    by desertswine on Fri Jul 19, 2019 at 05:03:42 PM EST
    plastic straws that say Trump on them.  The dimwitted will spend $15.00 for 10 plastic straws. Apparently they have sold out.

    "Liberal paper straws" lol (5.00 / 1) (#35)
    by jondee on Fri Jul 19, 2019 at 05:38:43 PM EST
    I'm going to see if I can market toaster-friendly metal utensils with Trump's face on them to these people.

    Gawd (none / 0) (#40)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jul 19, 2019 at 06:34:26 PM EST
    Swapping paper for plastic turned out to be the last straw for Donald Trump, who said Friday there are "bigger problems" than plastic drinking straws -- the day after his reelection campaign manager promoted branded ones on Twitter.

    The president made his position clear to reporters at the White House when, between questions about Iran and China, one asked him about growing efforts to ban plastic straws.

    "I do think we have bigger problems than plastic straws," Trump replied.

    A liberal death (none / 0) (#41)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jul 19, 2019 at 06:36:49 PM EST
    Woman Dies After Being Impaled by Reusable Metal Straw

    I really never understood straws.  Even for milkshakes.


    Trump is quite correct. (none / 0) (#90)
    by Jack E Lope on Tue Jul 23, 2019 at 01:05:36 PM EST
    That we do have problems bigger than a drinking straw.

    His Administration contains many of those big problems.

    Someone might want to counter the Trump plastic straws with some paper straws that say, "Drain The Trwamp" - or something like that.


    Rachel just did a segment (none / 0) (#48)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jul 19, 2019 at 09:06:15 PM EST
    On the reporting the Post has been doing on opioids.  Including this database.

    It's pretty jaw dropping.  You can see state by state, county by county, town by town, literally drug store by drug store where the opioids are going.

    So out of curiosity because of my addicted family members I checked it out.  

    In my former county, where those family members live the second highest on the list in that county was my former drug store.  Which the family uses.  Over the tracked time more than 1 and a half million pills.  The population of the town is 936.

    They said there was a total of 63 pills per day per person in the county.

    In my current county the highest is WalMart.  As they are in many countys

    You should check this out.

    Sorry (none / 0) (#49)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jul 19, 2019 at 09:09:29 PM EST
    That's per person per year

    Gibson bakery attorneys (none / 0) (#57)
    by Abdul Abulbul Amir on Sat Jul 20, 2019 at 11:41:06 AM EST
    Awarded $6.5 million


    Does the money go straight to the lawyers (none / 0) (#58)
    by McBain on Sat Jul 20, 2019 at 02:27:07 PM EST
    or does it go the Bakery so they can pay the legal fees and expenses?  I was assuming the lawyers were already paid. Whatever the case, it's nice to see the good guys win here.

    Depends on the (none / 0) (#92)
    by MKS on Tue Jul 23, 2019 at 02:07:12 PM EST
    agreement between counsel and the client.

    A standard term in contingency fee contracts is that all recovery, including for fees, is subject to the contingency, i.e, counsel and the client split the fees according to the formula for damages in general.


    Not the good guys imo (none / 0) (#96)
    by MKS on Tue Jul 23, 2019 at 02:22:50 PM EST
    They did very well (none / 0) (#99)
    by Abdul Abulbul Amir on Tue Jul 23, 2019 at 03:32:37 PM EST
    for their clients who were the victims.

    I was talking about (none / 0) (#105)
    by MKS on Tue Jul 23, 2019 at 06:16:04 PM EST
    the clients.

    Today in creepy tick news (none / 0) (#67)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Jul 21, 2019 at 11:28:17 AM EST
    Maybe (none / 0) (#94)
    by MKS on Tue Jul 23, 2019 at 02:10:49 PM EST
    you might consider one of those pre-announcements that you may want to turn down the sound on your t.v. or get the children out of the room for the next segment, because what will follow will be really disturbing.

    You know, otherwise, brain bleach may be needed...


    Sorry (none / 0) (#103)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jul 23, 2019 at 05:35:00 PM EST
    I admit to being sort of obsessed with the new tick plague.  Ticks on your ear drum.  Ticks on your eyeball.  Weaponized f'ing ticks.  Seems like something we really didn't need right now.  Considering the rest of the news.

    Maybe it's my location.


    I actually lived in Lyme (none / 0) (#106)
    by jondee on Wed Jul 24, 2019 at 11:03:57 AM EST
    for a number of years as a kid. And yes, there were ticks everywhere. If you were a big coffee drinker, you got nervous ticks, which are even worse. But seriously, it was country enough there that our half-wild dog would take off for hours in the woods and then we'd have to spend an hour picking ticks off him after he scratched at the door at dinner time.

    A lot of people used to get "mono" back then, and I'm pretty sure a lot of the time it was in fact Lyme Disease.


    Electoral College Analysis by (none / 0) (#68)
    by ragebot on Sun Jul 21, 2019 at 01:02:25 PM EST
    NBC claims Trump could lose the popular vote by five million and still win the EC.

    Maybe 15 years ago I was doing some research about congressional districts in Florida.  There was a software program that was designed to predict the winner based on the number of registered voters in each party, and past results, as the district lines changed.

    Thing was that the dems had huge majorities in a few districts in heavily populated urban areas which would run up their popular vote total while the pubs had more narrower but still comfortable wins in more less populated suburban and rural districts.  One thing the program did was automatically make the most compact districts with a polygon with the fewest number of sides.  The result was an even more lopsided pub victory than Florida already has with its current Gerrymandering.

    I can remember after the 2016 election there were some precincts that had over 95% of the votes for dems and some had 99%; one in PENN had 100% IIRC.  As the NBC article points out Clinton got well over a million more votes in 2016 than Obama did in 2012 in CA and current demographics indicate in 2020 that could double.  Thing is CA is not really in play; no one doubts it will be blue.  On the other hand the Great Lakes states Trump won by narrow margins have not seen much of an increase in non white populations and if Trump pulls off another narrow win in a few, but not all of them, he could win the EC by two votes while losing the popular vote by well over five million.

    The NBC article is well worth a click.

    What you have described (5.00 / 2) (#69)
    by Repack Rider on Sun Jul 21, 2019 at 01:46:54 PM EST
    ...in Florida is successful gerrymandering.

    Pack all the Democrats into a few districts, and even though they outnumber the GOP voters, they end up with fewer members of congress.

    Surely that didn't escape you when you read the article.


    Well (5.00 / 3) (#70)
    by Ga6thDem on Sun Jul 21, 2019 at 04:02:17 PM EST
    if a few more states enact national popular vote the electoral college will be just another relic of slavery to be put in the dustbin of history.

    And if polling is correct, WI and MI are gone for Trump.


    That is good news (none / 0) (#79)
    by MKS on Mon Jul 22, 2019 at 02:46:43 PM EST
    National popular vote legislation would be great.   Let's see, Wisconsin, Michigan and Penn would be a good place to start.   I think Dems may control all three....

    Despite a large voting majority, the Dems (none / 0) (#82)
    by Peter G on Mon Jul 22, 2019 at 04:57:51 PM EST
    do not control either house of the legislature in Pennsylvania. Can you guess why?

    There was (none / 0) (#95)
    by MKS on Tue Jul 23, 2019 at 02:12:23 PM EST
    that GOP state legislator who years ago, circa 2012 iirc, who said they had accomplished great things in limiting the vote in PA.....

    UK gets their very own Trump (none / 0) (#85)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jul 23, 2019 at 06:46:02 AM EST
    Boris Johnson wins race to be Tory leader and PM
    3 minutes ago

    And it's not even just the long ties baggy suits and troll hair.

    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jul 23, 2019 at 10:41:06 AM EST
    this is so stupid.  

    Arkansas is the latest state to ban calling veggie burgers "veggie burgers"

    The argument is consumers might be confused by the word "burger" and not realize is not neat.  Even tho it's called, you know, a veggie burger.

    The scary thing is it's not impossible.

    The ACLU is going to step in.

    Meat and dairy companies (5.00 / 1) (#87)
    by jondee on Tue Jul 23, 2019 at 11:01:08 AM EST
    regulating the healthier competition off the shelves, looks like.

    I thought they were all about deregulation in red states?

    But not when it comes to sovereign citizen's rights to morbid obesity, high blood pressure, and hardened arteries.


    You can eat one with (none / 0) (#88)
    by Chuck0 on Tue Jul 23, 2019 at 11:50:40 AM EST
    Freedom Fries!

    Maybe they could (none / 0) (#101)
    by Zorba on Tue Jul 23, 2019 at 04:39:17 PM EST
    call them "veggie berders."

    Covfefe brand veggie berders? (5.00 / 1) (#108)
    by Jack E Lope on Wed Jul 24, 2019 at 03:38:03 PM EST
    Now with more condom mints!

    Chris Kraft.. (none / 0) (#89)
    by desertswine on Tue Jul 23, 2019 at 12:46:17 PM EST
    the creator and long-time leader of NASA'S Mission Control, has died, 2 days after the 50th anniversary of the moon landing.

    Also, Rutger Hauer 75... (none / 0) (#107)
    by desertswine on Wed Jul 24, 2019 at 02:12:39 PM EST
    Then he releases a dove and dies while sitting in a rain storm.

    "I've seen things, you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I've watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time. To die."

    ... an underappreciated film which was a box office bust at the time of its initial 1982 release, but gradually found its audience over time. "Blade Runner" is a film that makes you ponder afterward who the bad guys really are in this world, once you realize that Rutger Hauer's murderous Roy Batty is actually the film's moral compass.

    "I want more life, Father." And when Roy couldn't have it, he took his creators' lives instead. It was a shocking fate for Tyrell and Sebastian, to be sure, but also in retrospect a wholly appropriate and well-deserved one, coming as it did the hands of their dubious work product.

    What a great movie!


    Nancy on the meeting with AOC (none / 0) (#111)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jul 26, 2019 at 11:07:46 AM EST
    "There is no "hatchet" to bury.  We have differences.  That should be celebrated....."

    What a concept.

    For what it's worth, I begin to suspect Nancy has a plan.  And it includes an "Impeachment Inquiry".

    But I'm, you know, a hopeless optimist

    To clarify (none / 0) (#112)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jul 26, 2019 at 11:19:47 AM EST
    I think Nancy expects that enough members are going to hear about impeachment over the next 45 days things will change by the time they return.   I think there will ( quite possibly) be an impeachment inquiry started by Nadler (who is on tv right now making the case).  An INQUIRY

    I think she will allow that.

    I could be wrong.


    The important thing just happened (5.00 / 1) (#118)
    by CST on Fri Jul 26, 2019 at 03:14:17 PM EST
    Which is they told the courts it's an impeachment inquiry.   That's how you get around "executive privilege" arguments in court. You pull the "congressional privilege" card.

    Moscow Mitch took money... (none / 0) (#128)
    by desertswine on Fri Jul 26, 2019 at 07:41:00 PM EST
    from voting machine lobbyists before squashing 2 bills to ensure voting security.

    The plans would likely burden the two largest electronic voting machine vendors in the United States, Election Systems & Software and Dominion Voting Systems, with new regulations and financial burdens. Together, the companies make up about 80 percent of all voting machines used in the country and both have far-reaching lobbying arms in Washington D.C. Many of those lobbyists have contributed to the McConnell campaign, reported Sludge last month, an investigative outlet that focuses on money in politics.

    The US has become a sick place.


    And (none / 0) (#113)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jul 26, 2019 at 11:46:46 AM EST
    Moscow Mitch is her greatest ally in blocking simple basic election protection.

    Mitch is going to hear about that.


    I, too, believe (none / 0) (#115)
    by KeysDan on Fri Jul 26, 2019 at 12:42:13 PM EST
    there will soon be an impeachment inquiry. Oversight investigation subpoenas risk coming up short in the Court as additional testimony is sought as follow-ups to the Mueller Report, including the suggestions of Trump and family financial quid pro quo aspects of collusion with the Russian government.

    This is an unnecessary risk. An impeachment inquiry puts the power of the House subpoenas at its zenith--and not using their best shot may be seen as irresponsible given the now televised revelations of ethical, unpatriotic, and, very likely, crimes, of Trump et. al.

    And, too, the gloves have been peeled off. The hearing underscored that while Trump may not be federally indicted while in office, he may be after leaving office--putting the options for Trump to (a) get re-elected, by hook or crook, or (b)risk a retirement of tweeting from a jail cell.

     Hopefully, the Democrats realize that they need to prepare for the crook's hooks.

    On a different front, DOJ will not bring any prosecutorial action against AG Barr or Commerce Secretary Ross for criminal contempt of congress, as voted by the House based on failure to comply with subpoenas related to the attempt to include a citizenship question on the Census. Not a surprise, but a building block in the Court case.


    I have more optimism (none / 0) (#120)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Jul 26, 2019 at 04:08:35 PM EST
    after the Mueller hearing. I don't care what the stupid pundits say. I see many a campaign ad being made from Schiff's questioning of Mueller. The GOP has to know this. There is a reason why they tried to get rid of him with their bogus Trump is cleared of Russian collusion lies.

    I agree. (none / 0) (#121)
    by KeysDan on Fri Jul 26, 2019 at 04:37:25 PM EST
    With the Senate Intel Committee report, Moscow Mitch's recalcitrance, the Democratic primary candidates on the trail, and core findings of the Mueller Report-- indicating Trump coordination and interaction with Russia's efforts to intervene in, and influence, the 2016 election so as to help Trump and hurt Clinton, the lies, witness tampering, and other obstruction by Trump associates and Trump, himself, to cover-up their duplicitous and illegal actions---is not going away.

     And, Trump is calling the Mueller Report "treasonous", in accord with his psychological-projection.


    My (none / 0) (#123)
    by FlJoe on Fri Jul 26, 2019 at 05:28:26 PM EST
    optimism was ticking up, until moments ago when(per CNN) the Supremes just handed tRump a huge victory giving him the right to build his wall with money stolen from the military, the power of the purse be dammed.

    Chalk up another one for the fascists.


    Well, even (none / 0) (#124)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Jul 26, 2019 at 05:44:21 PM EST
    that doesn't bother me all that much. First of all that stupid wall is never going to be built. Secondly down the drain goes all their nonsense about the military when it is now obvious that Trump has stolen their money.

    The supreme court has become a joke since Kavanaugh. I agree with those that in order to restore respect to the courts we are going to have to pack them.


    Chalk one up (none / 0) (#129)
    by MKS on Fri Jul 26, 2019 at 08:02:40 PM EST
    for supporting the emergency powers of a President.

    So, if a Dem gets elected POTUS, there is a real chance for significant action on climate change. We wouldn't need a filibuster proof majority in the Senate, or even a majority in the Senate at all.

    Conservatives will rue this day.  


    They (none / 0) (#133)
    by FlJoe on Sat Jul 27, 2019 at 07:37:13 AM EST
    are not conservatives, the are fascists. They never intend to lose power and they would sell their soul to the devil to make it so.

    As soon as Trump is gone and there (none / 0) (#134)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Jul 27, 2019 at 08:10:23 AM EST
    Is a dem president all the republicans will be united in stopping the abuse of executive power.

    The media will join them and the dems will fold.

    At least he's taking the money from the military and not from food stamps or something.


    OMFG (none / 0) (#114)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jul 26, 2019 at 12:04:46 PM EST
    Velshi AND Ruhel are on vacation.  Or something.


    MSNBC has become the "Velshi & Ruhel channel".

    I f'ing hate them.  Seriously.  I f'ing hate them.

    This is a good day.

    So, what did they do? (none / 0) (#117)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Fri Jul 26, 2019 at 03:02:44 PM EST
    Like the Morning Joe crew, Velshi and Ruhel are on the air in the wee hours in Hawaii when I'm still fast asleep. It's only 10:15 a.m. out here right now, whereas it's practically Happy Hour by you.

    They did what they do (none / 0) (#122)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jul 26, 2019 at 05:13:08 PM EST
    They have three hours a day every day to wallow in bothsiderism

    They each have a 1 hour show and they have a 1 hour show together.

    All that's left is to give them a 4th hour called Ruehl & Velshi.


    Andrew Yang (none / 0) (#119)
    by CST on Fri Jul 26, 2019 at 03:17:43 PM EST
    Is not my preferred candidate but he is apparently a great twitter troll.


    WATCHMEN (none / 0) (#125)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jul 26, 2019 at 06:12:29 PM EST
    Sounds better all the time.

    There are some similarities to the comics, Lindelof revealed, including that the government shut down social media before it took off, which explains the lack of smartphones in the series.

    One key difference is that instead of a Cold War setting, the governmental conflicts are on American soil.

    "What in 2019 is the equivalent of the nuclear standoff between the Americans and the Russians? It is race and the police," Lindelof said.

    And we are going to get Robert Redford playing himself as president.

    CBR (none / 0) (#126)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jul 26, 2019 at 06:42:10 PM EST
    Redford has boarded the upcoming comic book series, despite declaring his retirement from acting last year. This follows Deadline's initial report that the character of President Robert Redford would play a role in HBO's Watchmen.

    In the 12th and final issue of Alan Moore and Dave Gibbons' original Watchmen graphic novel, allusions are made to Robert Redford becoming President of the United States following the events of the comic, which was later confirmed by Doomsday Clock.

    Watchmen showrunner Damon Lindelof previously explained that in the canon of the show, Redford became president in 1992. Thanks to Richard Nixon abolishing presidential term limits during his earlier presidency, Redford has remained in office up until 2019, when series take place.

    Must See TV... (none / 0) (#132)
    by desertswine on Fri Jul 26, 2019 at 11:40:57 PM EST
    On Netflix - "The Great Hack"  
         Cambridge Analytica. Brexit. Facebook. Trump. Elections. Bannon. Data rights.

         Very creepy. A horror movie really. Are honest and free elections even possible anymore?

    Free money (none / 0) (#135)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Jul 27, 2019 at 05:07:09 PM EST
    Is anyone taking the 10 years of free (none / 0) (#136)
    by McBain on Sat Jul 27, 2019 at 07:16:49 PM EST
    credit monitoring option? I read if you want the $125, you have to verify that you already have a credit monitoring service.  

    Option 1: Take the money after signing up for six months of monitoring, and keep whatever is left over after six months. To request the $125, you need to certify you are using a credit monitoring service on the date you submit your claim and will keep it for six months. Credit-reporting services can cost $10 to $30 a month -- or you could use a free service like the one from Credit Karma -- but if you choose one of the lower-priced services, you can walk away with $60 or so.

    Option 2: Sign up for 10 years of credit monitoring and sleep better. $125 is a good sum. Ten years of a credit monitoring service could add up to $1,200 up to $3,600 total over time. Which is a larger sum.

    Equifax (5.00 / 1) (#139)
    by BGinCA on Sat Jul 27, 2019 at 10:51:22 PM EST
    You do not have to verify that you already have credit monitoring, merely assert this.

    I submitted mine (none / 0) (#142)
    by Jeralyn on Sun Jul 28, 2019 at 07:31:33 PM EST
    First you plug in some info and they tell you if your info has been compromised. Then you can take 6 years of monitoring or if you already have monitoring, $125. Since I have triple bureau monitoring that I pay for, I took the $125. It took all of five minutes.

    If you say you have monitoring, they can ask for more information, so be truthful. But even the free monitoring is worth filling out the claim for.


    Ain't none of us (none / 0) (#165)
    by Chuck0 on Thu Aug 01, 2019 at 11:50:14 AM EST
    getting that $125. They weren't required to set aside enough money. I believe I read, there is only enough money to pay around 400,000 people the full $125. I think we'll be lucky to get $25. If that.

    Shouldn't surprise anyone. The credit reporting agencies have been screwing the American public for decades. Not including the data breach. So much wrong information is in those files, they aren't worth the disk space they consume.

    Mine has wrong addresses, wrong names, wrong dates, etc. Probably because I used to move around a lot. I guess if you stayed in the same place most of your life the data may be somewhat accurate. But certainly not in my case.

    The information isn't detrimental, so it's not worth the time trying to fix. But it's just wrong.


    Total BS (5.00 / 1) (#166)
    by jmacWA on Sat Aug 03, 2019 at 04:55:17 AM EST
    Yes... the settlement is not going to pay us much if anything.  My initial thought was who cares it's only $125... then I read the captain's post and agreed equifax needs to be punished, so I checked and found out I was eligible.  I never thought I would be because I froze my credit reports (all 3) over 10 years ago, but having the reports frozen didn't prevent the hack, just prevented them from doing much with the data (I HOPE).  This is another sellout by the politicians that was totally over hyped by the Major Media.  I haven't seen too many front page articles explaining that, now you will be lucky to get anything from Equifax, and they will just continue on their merry way

    A while back (none / 0) (#140)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Jul 28, 2019 at 02:43:21 PM EST
    I got addicted to dried gourmet shrooms.  There are many sites.  FungusAmongus is mine.  But I did this today and it's really good.

    Chicken Soup with Ginger and Shiitake Mushrooms

    I , after experimentation add, onions garlic and some stock, find this excellent

    Oh (none / 0) (#141)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Jul 28, 2019 at 02:50:13 PM EST
    White meat please

    No thighs here.

    Personal choice


    Have to say (none / 0) (#143)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Jul 29, 2019 at 12:06:59 PM EST
    My opposition to capital punishment is being tested by the garlic festival shooter.

    Any word (none / 0) (#144)
    by MKS on Mon Jul 29, 2019 at 01:41:13 PM EST
    on shooter's motivation.  Random nut or any ideological bent?

    Sounds like (none / 0) (#145)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Jul 29, 2019 at 04:27:00 PM EST
    another Timothy McVeigh clone.

    More deranged (none / 0) (#146)
    by jondee on Mon Jul 29, 2019 at 05:13:07 PM EST
    eff the world nihilism, I'm guessing.

    I'm upset and disappointed and you're all gonna pay.

    Of course, the equivalent of Rage Inc is always in full-swing online to nudge those teetering on the edge over the edge.


    Apparently his favorite (none / 0) (#147)
    by jondee on Mon Jul 29, 2019 at 05:30:33 PM EST
    book was Might Makes Right, which is a Nietszchean Superman gone amok affair, as I understand it.

    If that counts as an ideology.


    I just saw a picture (none / 0) (#148)
    by jondee on Mon Jul 29, 2019 at 06:11:51 PM EST
    of that little boy with the beautiful smile.

    Of course, if that psycho hadn't killed him and shot fifteen others in a minute with an AK47, he would've done it with a knife. Right?


    Excellent TV coming (none / 0) (#149)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jul 30, 2019 at 08:38:03 AM EST
    In Aug we get

    Lodge 49
    The Terror on AMC

    The Boys
    The Righteous Gemstones HBO

    The Dark Crystal Netflix

    Lots more stuff coming in Sept

    The really good stuff Watchmen, His Dark Materials this fall

    On tv (none / 0) (#150)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jul 30, 2019 at 08:39:58 AM EST
    Just watching this weeks LEGION.

    This takes a bit of effort, yes, but there is nothing better or more timely than this on tv right now.


    AVClub (none / 0) (#151)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jul 30, 2019 at 10:18:20 AM EST
    The rap battle between Oliver and Jerome is maybe the single silliest thing Legion has ever done. Sillier than a lip-synching mouse, sillier than any droll witticism or stomping on a previously enormous delusion creature or any of it. On an episode already experimenting with a far lighter and more playful tone than just about every episode that's preceded it, it pushed the series into a downright goofy realm. But circumstances aside, if you can't enjoy a ridiculous rap battle between Jemaine Clement and Jason Mantzoukas, I'm not sure I want to know you.


    So Sydney returns, and gathers Cary and Kerry in her attempt to enter the time stream and stop David, with the Time Eaters hot on their heels. Which leads us to maybe the most moving moment of the entire episode, so powerful precisely because it shows instead of telling, discarding the entire fairy-tale apparatus that preceded it and just demonstrating everything Oliver and Melanie were talking about. Cary takes on Kerry's pain, knowing full well it might cripple him, because it's the right thing to do. He takes on another's pain, because love drives him to do so. It's great that Syd had the help of an entire other lifetime to give her the emotional resources necessary to press on. But she had a perfect example of empathy right there on the ship, all along.

    "Don't forget chlamydia!"


    Btw (none / 0) (#154)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jul 30, 2019 at 10:43:27 AM EST
    "Cary" is in real life is the amazing Bill Irwin in the part he was born to play.

    The Boys (none / 0) (#155)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jul 30, 2019 at 01:51:12 PM EST
    Is Amazon.  Not HBO.

    Hey MT... (none / 0) (#152)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jul 30, 2019 at 10:36:59 AM EST
    what's the bottom line on Hayden and that whole thing.  

    HAYTEN (none / 0) (#153)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jul 30, 2019 at 10:37:43 AM EST
    Hayten, damn spell check.

    The CNN Democratic debate tonight (none / 0) (#156)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jul 30, 2019 at 02:01:58 PM EST
    is in WAYNE COUNTY

    somewhere Divine is smiling.

    On that (none / 0) (#157)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jul 30, 2019 at 02:32:47 PM EST
    If you need a break, or an alternative, or a toddy when it ends, TCM is doing a pretty killer all night SciFi thing starting at 7 with Close Encounters then Star Wars Ep IV, The Wrath of Khan, Solaris (1972), Logan's Run, Westworld and 2010.

    The Russian Solaris (none / 0) (#158)
    by jondee on Tue Jul 30, 2019 at 02:44:33 PM EST
    is supposed to be pretty awesome. I've never seen it.

    Yes (none / 0) (#159)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jul 30, 2019 at 02:50:44 PM EST
    It is long boring and awsum

    Compared to the Clooney Soderberg (none / 0) (#160)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jul 30, 2019 at 02:58:47 PM EST
    Version that was just boring and tedious

    I prefer the Soderberg version (none / 0) (#163)
    by McBain on Wed Jul 31, 2019 at 08:33:26 AM EST
    thought it was underrated

    I remember that description (none / 0) (#161)
    by jondee on Tue Jul 30, 2019 at 02:59:17 PM EST
    being applied frequently to Kubrick's 2001.

    Boring and awesome, I mean (5.00 / 1) (#162)
    by jondee on Tue Jul 30, 2019 at 03:00:33 PM EST