Democratic Debate: Live Thread

Elizabeth Warren got the first question on the economy. Her answer sounded like she's given it a million times.

Amy Klobuchar on student debt. Good speaking voice. Mentions Donald Trump.
Beto O'Rourke: Economy question, shows off his Spanish. Won't commit to a 70% tax rate.

Booker: Role of corporations like Amazon and the economy. Introduces race in his answer.

Back to Warren on the monopolisitic corporations

Julian Castro: women and wages. His mother was single and raised him and his brother. He would pass the Equal Rights Amendment and an equal pay law. [More...]

Gabbard: Touts her accomplishments, turns economy question into one about peace.

Blasio: Talked too fast to hear what he was saying

7:20 pm: Changing to health care. Ask for raise of hand as to who would abolish private insurance for a government program. Only a few raised their hands -- Warren and the guy on the far left among them.

Another question for Warren, she's getting a lot of time. She wants Medicare for All. (I don't -- whatever happened to giving everyone the same coverage as members of Congress?)

Beto: I hate when candidates use a single, specific person none of us know to make a point. Pointless. Tall guy on the left jumps on him. Short bald guy who sounds like mediator jumps in on both.

Gabbard: Makes sense, stop talking about one bill over the other and talk about the objective. She supports Medicare for All.

Booker: Supports Medicare for All, brings up race again. He's really playing for the African-American vote.

Julian Castro: Reproductive justice, not just reproductive freedom. Talks about rights of transgers. Believes in right to have an abortion. Would appoint judges to federal bench who appreciate Roe v. Wade.

Warren: It's not enough to rely on courts to protect the right. Roe v Wade should be made federal law.

Opioid question: Booker would jail the Pharma companies. Beto answered by talking about the incarceration rate especially of drug offenders. Then said he'd hold Pharma accountable.

First commerical: Who's making their presence known? I like Beto and Castro so far -- I'm disappointed that Warren sounds programmed.

Immigration up next. Julian Castro has a good response. Would repeal Section 1325. Cheers. He rolls his "r"s perfectly. Then Booker answers, also shows off some Spanish. Booker seems like he's trying too hard. He doesn't offer a solution, just says current policies should end.

Tall guy on the left blames corporations and the 1% for our immigration problem.

Beto vs Castro: YEA Julian! Beto: Fail. Castro wipes the floor with Beto on Section 1325. Beto wants to help those who are seeking asylum. Castro wants to protect all who cross the border. Klobuchar also falls on her face. She wants to uphold "the law." She turns the question to one about the economy. Guy who is second on the left agrees with Castro -- he's very passionate. Booker talks about our over-criminalization of social problems. He gave a good response.

Female NBC host says she hasn't heard an answer to what they would do on day one about immigration. False, Julian Castro said on day one he'd repeal every immigration order issued by Donald Trump.

7:50 pm: Who is making the biggest splash? In my view: Julian Castro. Klobuchar looks like a goody-two shoes, I'm not responding well to her. Warren has to learn to loosen up connect individually, using ordinary words. Booker is also a little too stiff. Beto doesn't seem spontaneous or able to adapt to sudden shifts in topics. I never heard of Tulsi Gabbard before today and I'm already tired of her touting her accomplishments.

Break time, please feel free to update in comments and give us your impressions.

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    Castro eating up Beto (5.00 / 1) (#5)
    by MKS on Wed Jun 26, 2019 at 08:34:16 PM EST
    on immigration.  Beto living up to his reputation by staying stuck on platitudes.

    Booker can't "pass" the ERA... (5.00 / 2) (#10)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Thu Jun 27, 2019 at 01:18:49 AM EST
    as President. It is up to the States to ratify the ERA and Congress to extend the now passed deadline for doing so.

    Sadly, even after all these years, we still need one more State to ratify.

    I'll let John Oliver explain.

    My take: (5.00 / 1) (#19)
    by KeysDan on Thu Jun 27, 2019 at 01:42:17 PM EST
    Elizabeth Warren towered over the other nine candidates, eclipsing them in presence, intellect, and, yes, in plans.  Feasible plans, even Medicare For All, if more time was available to explain.

    Julian Castro was passionate but measured as evidenced by his reasonable approach to address immigration problems.

    Beto, seemed fidgety as if being suppressed by the constraints of the podium.  And, more importantly, unconfident.  

    Bill de Blasio's purpose seemed to be to influence the Democratic Party platform rather than to champion his own candidacy. But, if it was the latter, he did not succeed.

    Amy Klobuchar makes a good senator, as does Corey Booker.  It is like the successful architect who wants to be a great violinist, but really should stick to architecture.

    Tim Ryan came across as a lightweight, and maybe, more mean, that passionate.  Delaney is a total reject--he knows how to create jobs because he is a businessman. We need bipartisanship..  I saw this movie and did not like it, maybe OK for Turner Classics, but not a 2020 release.  

    My only knowledge of Gabbard was her past anti-gay positions.  However, she claims to have changed. Guess, confession and forgiveness are a Christian thing to do, otherwise Jesus would have had a bad weekend for nothing.  There is also penance involved...her's could be to drop out and remain a reconstructed congresswoman, adding a needed voice to peace with Iran.

    I have liked Jay Inslee, having the experience of a US congressman and two-term governor. And, of course, his emphasis on climate change.  But, his passion was tinged with anger, making as a presidential candidate, a old guy shagging kids off the lawn. That scenario, I thought, would be for tonight's debate.

    Look forward to the second group, tonight.  Hoping that Mayor Pete will answer each question in a different language, starting with the language of Trump's favorite country, Norwegian.

    Warren and Amy were visually dwarfed by (none / 0) (#24)
    by oculus on Thu Jun 27, 2019 at 04:24:14 PM EST
    all the tall males.

    I did not realize what a giant of a man (none / 0) (#25)
    by Peter G on Thu Jun 27, 2019 at 05:53:20 PM EST
    DiBlasio is. And Gabbard is a very tall woman -- much taller than Castro, in fact.

    "Hasta la victoria, siempre!" (none / 0) (#33)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Fri Jun 28, 2019 at 12:30:31 PM EST
    Not that Castro (none / 0) (#34)
    by Peter G on Fri Jun 28, 2019 at 09:45:33 PM EST

    You are way ahead of de Blasio.

    In Miami, de Blasio said four words in Spanish. Slight problem: They were Che's words

    Elizabeth Warren is ON IT! (none / 0) (#1)
    by Militarytracy on Wed Jun 26, 2019 at 08:01:17 PM EST

    I like Warren (none / 0) (#15)
    by john horse on Thu Jun 27, 2019 at 10:13:29 AM EST
    I thought most of candidates were good but I liked Warren the best.  She is smart like Obama but much more progressive.

    Tulsi Gabbard?? (none / 0) (#2)
    by Chuck0 on Wed Jun 26, 2019 at 08:07:47 PM EST
    Try answering the question at hand.

    Castro (none / 0) (#3)
    by MKS on Wed Jun 26, 2019 at 08:29:11 PM EST
    on immigration....good.

    Good discussion to have....

    Booker has terrible (none / 0) (#4)
    by MKS on Wed Jun 26, 2019 at 08:32:26 PM EST
    Spanish btw.    It is a gimmick....

    Seriously (none / 0) (#11)
    by Ga6thDem on Thu Jun 27, 2019 at 03:53:42 AM EST
    this has come up before. If you're not good at speaking in Spanish just don't go there and stick to English.

    All these candidates (none / 0) (#6)
    by MKS on Wed Jun 26, 2019 at 08:39:30 PM EST
    are really good with a couple of exceptions....

    Which one (none / 0) (#21)
    by Abdul Abulbul Amir on Thu Jun 27, 2019 at 02:02:58 PM EST
    Do you think offered the most free stuff?

    As (5.00 / 1) (#22)
    by FlJoe on Thu Jun 27, 2019 at 02:44:25 PM EST
    far as I can tell no one offered any free stuff to our corporate overlords, try not to be disappointed.

    At least they were not told (5.00 / 2) (#23)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jun 27, 2019 at 03:02:33 PM EST
    Mexico would pay for it.

    No one offered a free (5.00 / 1) (#26)
    by jondee on Thu Jun 27, 2019 at 06:36:25 PM EST
    piled-high platter of steaming horsesh*t about gun-grabbers, freedom, and traditional christian values, so I'm guessing you were turned off very early on.

    Nobody (5.00 / 2) (#27)
    by Ga6thDem on Thu Jun 27, 2019 at 06:49:34 PM EST
    said we need to do legislation to make 11 year old little girls be birthing slaves for pedophiles so I am guessing you would not be interested.

    And the only people offering "free" stuff is conservatives. George W. Bush gave away more free stuff than anybody in the history of the country.


    Stop trolling (none / 0) (#28)
    by MKS on Thu Jun 27, 2019 at 07:00:07 PM EST
    Take your Fox framing and.....

    Ryan looks like a deer in the headlights. (none / 0) (#7)
    by Chuck0 on Wed Jun 26, 2019 at 08:44:57 PM EST
    Kind of an empty suit. I saw him on Bill Maher and he had nothing of substance to offer. I'm not in anyone's camp yet but I know who is a no.

    Beto no. Go back to Texas and run for Senate again.

    Gabbard. Big no.

    De Blasio. No.

    Inslee. Meh.

    The rest I want to hear more. Even Delaney.

    Donald from Hawaii -- can you fact-check (5.00 / 1) (#12)
    by Peter G on Thu Jun 27, 2019 at 09:31:22 AM EST
    Gabbard for us on LGBTQ rights? Were her past hostile statements really so long ago that they can be attributed to growing up in a "socially conservative family" (itself quite an understatement, as I recall)? Did her military experience really cause her to change her opinions (i.e., a decade ago), or was it (more recent) political expediency?

    Interesting data point from (none / 0) (#17)
    by ragebot on Thu Jun 27, 2019 at 10:47:54 AM EST
    FOX News.  Gabbard won the google search poll far and away.

    She also had the third least speaking time.  She did a great job dealing with Ryan.


    It should (5.00 / 2) (#20)
    by Ga6thDem on Thu Jun 27, 2019 at 02:01:41 PM EST
    surprise no one that Gabbard scored on internet searches or that Fox News reported such a thing. Gabbard is Putin's gal and I'm sure his minions were flooding the internet for her.

    Conservatives never disappoint when it comes to carrying water for the Kremlin.


    RWNJs (none / 0) (#29)
    by KeysDan on Thu Jun 27, 2019 at 07:28:11 PM EST
    want to see Gabbard  in the Trump Administration---from Secretary of State to Veteran's Affairs.   They like her.

    Well, of course (none / 0) (#32)
    by Ga6thDem on Thu Jun 27, 2019 at 07:46:44 PM EST
    Water carriers for the Kremlin are always gonna like other water carriers for the Kremlin.

    RWNJs (none / 0) (#30)
    by KeysDan on Thu Jun 27, 2019 at 07:32:16 PM EST
    want to see Gabbard in the Trump Administration---from Secretary of State to Veteran's Affairs.  They like her.

    Rigged poll (none / 0) (#31)
    by MKS on Thu Jun 27, 2019 at 07:38:54 PM EST
    Right Wingers spammed the poll.



    I agree that Beto (none / 0) (#8)
    by MKS on Wed Jun 26, 2019 at 08:49:00 PM EST
    and Klobuchar disappoint.

    Castro really good.  Inslee and the guy from Youngstown good too.

    Booker looks lost....like he can't figure out how to get air time or time his responses....

    Warren has a plan, plan, plan....Okay.

    The Senators (none / 0) (#9)
    by MKS on Wed Jun 26, 2019 at 09:49:59 PM EST
    Warren, Booker and Klobuchar did best imo at the end.....

    So Warren and Castro (none / 0) (#13)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jun 27, 2019 at 10:01:58 AM EST
    I actually thought Amy was OK but maybe not enough.

    Tonight should be more interesting.  Bernie is grumpy.

    I'm jealous (none / 0) (#14)
    by CST on Thu Jun 27, 2019 at 10:06:18 AM EST
    That Jeralyn had never heard of Tulsi before.   You keep good company.

    Honestly I tuned out about halfway through. Generally I thought Castro raised his profile, Beto lowered his, and everyone else was more or less a wash. For the next debate we could kick out everyone but Warren, Castro, Booker, Klobacher, and Inslee, and we'd all be better off for it.

    Also poor Delaney, not even the moderators wanted to hear from him.

    Lets face it (5.00 / 2) (#16)
    by jondee on Thu Jun 27, 2019 at 10:46:02 AM EST
    if Liz was a dynamic, handsome, 40 or 50 something man, it would be all over but deciding between Julian and Corey for veep.

    Beto (none / 0) (#18)
    by NoSides on Thu Jun 27, 2019 at 11:37:28 AM EST
    dissembles and is evasive. A closet conservative.
    Wouldn't give a straight answer to the NYTimes about withdrawing troops from Afghanistan.

    Warren seemed programmed.
    Booker too calculating.

    Liked Castro best. The most human of the lot imo.

    Liked Tulsi.
    Liked Amy.

    All elected officials, and all candidates vying for public office should be made to ride public transportation daily to and from work as a condition for employment. Without that experience, they can't have a clue about what it is like to be a citizen of the US of A.