Tuesday Open Thread

It really did snow here yesterday -- the latest I can remember that happening. I have a cracked windshield (noticed it last week -- goes from top to bottom in an S type line) and am off to the windshied replacement place. My Jeep is 10 months old and has 2,100 miles on it. This shouldn't happen, but it did.

Here's a new open thread, all topics welcome.

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  • 75 years ago, ... (5.00 / 1) (#34)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Wed May 22, 2019 at 02:00:27 PM EST
    ... as the U.S. 7th Fleet sat at anchor in Pearl Harbor and was being provisioned for the upcoming invasion of Saipan in the war against Japan, an explosion occurred in the bowels of LST 353, one of 29 amphibious landing ships that were lined together in West Loch and heavily laden with ammunition.

    That set off a chain reaction of horrific explosions which rocked the entire line of ships. The noise was deafening, and could be heard clear across Oahu as far away as Haleiwa on the North Shore. The accompanying concussions were so massive that windows were shattered throughout the Pearl Harbor and Hickam AFB area, and human bodies were flung miles into the air, some subsequently landing in downtown Honolulu. By the time the smoke finally cleared the next morning, 166 sailors, soldiers and Marines had lost their lives, another 376 had been wounded, six ships had been sunk or destroyed and another 14 ships seriously damaged.

    The West Loch Disaster, as it's known today, delayed the invasion of Saipan by eight to ten weeks. And due to strict military censor restrictions, all news of it was embargoed so effectively that to this day, very few people have ever heard of it, even though it represents -- after the Japanese attack on Oahu in Dec. 1941 -- the second biggest loss of life in a single event in the history of the Territory and State of Hawaii. The wreck of LST 480, one of the ships destroyed in that tragedy can still be seen at West Loch today.

    As we approach Memorial Day, we ought to also take time to remember those members of our armed forces who lost their lives in service to their country in circumstances sometimes far less well known or compelling than active combat against an enemy, but no less tragic.

    I note that because the U.S. military was still racially segregated in the Second World War, with African Americans were often relegated to menial labor or provision and supply duty. As a result, most of the 166 men who were killed that day at West Loch 75 years ago were black. And their sacrifice clearly deserves commemoration, just as much as that of the Marines and soldiers who would later storm ashore at Saipan in August 1944.


    If you ever get the chance (5.00 / 1) (#46)
    by Abdul Abulbul Amir on Wed May 22, 2019 at 04:23:59 PM EST
    Read the Navy's ammunition handling publication.  To use a term, it is written in blood.

    On a personal note I was on an LST beached at Chu Lai, Vietnam with half of the 700 ton load of munitions stacked nearby on the beach. That night the GQ alarm sounded. The next few hours were quite the pucker factor. Changed my life.


    Of additional interest (none / 0) (#38)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Wed May 22, 2019 at 03:18:44 PM EST
    is that while clearing the loch of debris after the incident, they found a sunken Japanese mini sub, most likely from the Pearl Harbor attack 3 years prior.

    There had long been rumors ... (none / 0) (#59)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Thu May 23, 2019 at 02:40:41 AM EST
    ... that a Japanese two-man Type A Ko-hyoteki class submarine had somehow penetrated Pearl Harbor's security screen during the Dec. 1941 attack, and had further managed to fire two torpedoes at the battleship USS Oklahoma, which suffered catastrophic damage from multiple torpedo strikes and capsized at its berth, killing over 400 sailors.

    But the Navy would neither confirm nor deny those rumors and so they remained just that, because evidence of the small sub's wreckage within the harbor had been suppressed just as successfully as news about the West Loch Disaster. Its existence was only confirmed by the Navy in late 2009, 68 years after the Japanese attack.



    For every fighter in combat (none / 0) (#56)
    by ragebot on Wed May 22, 2019 at 09:29:13 PM EST
    there are normally 10 support personnel.  Ammo is made state side, shipped (often across the country), loaded on ships and shipped to more than one supply post, and then shipped again.  Once in a combat zone it is stored again and distributed.  All of this is done with paperwork in triplicate.

    That is just for ammo.  As the famous saying goes 'an army travels on it's stomach'.


    I understand people (5.00 / 1) (#70)
    by jondee on Thu May 23, 2019 at 11:02:42 AM EST
    in France and Belgium still get severely injured on occasion by accidentally uncovered live ordnance from WWI.

    Talk about the proverbial toothpaste that can't be put back in the tube.


    Today I had my first (5.00 / 1) (#43)
    by CST on Wed May 22, 2019 at 04:02:30 PM EST
    Lobbying gig. It's "Engineers and Land Surveyors Day at the Statehouse" which is apparently an annual thing I had never known about but the company I now work for encouraged us to go.  It was definitely an interesting experience.  Although at lunch we were discussing how everyone is always in favor of hypothetical infrastructure investment, yet somehow nothing ever changes.  At least the state has the excuse that they have to balance their budget.  Apparently at the federal level they just think it's more important for corporations to have tax breaks than safe roads and clean water.

    Very interested in (none / 0) (#62)
    by Militarytracy on Thu May 23, 2019 at 07:12:53 AM EST
    Your current and future insights on these issues.

    Right now (5.00 / 1) (#68)
    by CST on Thu May 23, 2019 at 08:58:38 AM EST
    Transportation funding is in a real bind.  We've relied almost entirely on the gas tax to fund transportation,  but as vehicles get more fuel efficient you have a lot fewer dollars for infrastructure. No one wants to promote the use of gas guzzlers, so we're trying to change how it gets funded but inertia is a hell of a thing. The biggest problem with water here is ancient infrastructure and the fact that it's out of sight/out of mind. No one cares that everything leaks as quantity is not the issue here, so it's more about disaster prevention.  Unfortunately prevention is always a hard sell.

    Christie's is auctioning off.. (5.00 / 2) (#58)
    by desertswine on Wed May 22, 2019 at 11:20:15 PM EST
    a trove of 50 love letters written by Leonard Cohen to his lover Marianne Ihlen.

    Cohen was a struggling poet when they first came together on the Greek island of Hydra in 1960. And Ihlen became his greatest muse, inspiring one of his emblematic songs, So Long, Marianne, and several others, including Bird on the Wire, while at the same time giving him the confidence to sing in public.

    Shortly before she died at 81, he was still reaching out to her. He wrote to her on her deathbed in her native Norway in July 2016: "Well Marianne, it's come to this time when we are really so old and our bodies are falling apart and I think I will follow you very soon. Know that I am so close behind you that if you stretch out your hand, I think you can reach mine.
    And you know that I've always loved you for your beauty and your wisdom, but I don't need to say anything more about that because you know all about that. But now, I just want to wish you a very good journey. Goodbye old friend. Endless love, see you down the road."

    Oh, I'm going teary.

    Went looking for garlic (5.00 / 3) (#73)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu May 23, 2019 at 11:21:58 AM EST
    Found some (yay) but I ran into a MAGA acquaintance.  It was interesting and instructive.  They are also beginning to panic.

    Recently in a conversation he asked me, sarcastically, if there was anything about the country I was not angry about.

    I said absolutely, I am proud of the courts.  The response was laughably programmed.  "Oh, you mean the 9th Circuit ."  

    No, I said, that really not how it works.  I went on to explain there were several things in the courts that Trump was going to lose.  Which got hearty guffaws.

    Today, no guffaws.  He appeared a bit pale and looked like he had not been sleeping well.

    He disappeared after a quick hello.

    It totally made my day.

    I loved watching Andrea Mitchell (5.00 / 1) (#75)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu May 23, 2019 at 12:37:37 PM EST
    Clutch her pearls because Pete called Bone Spurs a racist and a draft dodger.

    Greetings to all my old TLers (5.00 / 5) (#78)
    by Dadler on Thu May 23, 2019 at 02:36:48 PM EST
    And to new ones. Early copies of ADLERPOEMS now available from Small Press Distribution in Berkeley. Some people have been unable to order on their website, anyone who tries and fails please let me know. The "official" publication date, which means when it's available on Amazon is June 30th. Six months late. Oy. Thanks to all who even think about ordering a copy. If anyone is financially strapped and needs a free copy, email me at david adler at earthlink dot net and I'll get one to you. Peace & Love to all. Phuck Trump.

    Beautiful music from the Ukraine (5.00 / 1) (#80)
    by Dadler on Thu May 23, 2019 at 03:02:51 PM EST
    Just discovered these cats, seeing them next month at the SF Jazz Center. Haven't been so juiced for a concert in years. From free Kiev, and apparently on Putin's sh*tlist.

    DAKHABRAKHA - Yanky (live on festival stage)

    Monakh (live in studio)

    Peace & Love to all.

    Mayor Pete interview (5.00 / 1) (#85)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu May 23, 2019 at 04:00:37 PM EST
    that's causing all the clutched pearls

    It's pretty great.  Long.  The highlights are pretty much everywhere.

    THe fact (none / 0) (#87)
    by Ga6thDem on Thu May 23, 2019 at 07:45:41 PM EST
    that it makes Andrea Mitchell clutch her pearls makes me happy.

    Trump lies about (5.00 / 2) (#86)
    by KeysDan on Thu May 23, 2019 at 04:10:50 PM EST
    a $16 billion farmer's aid package to compensate for Trump Administration tariff policy damage to be paid through tariffs " coming in from China."

    Tariffs, of course, are paid by importers and passed on to American consumers. Although, it may be, in a way, correct if the Administration floats a loan from China to pay for the damage.  Republican farmers may grow weary of the damage, but most, probably, will stick with Trump so long as he......

    Friday.. (5.00 / 1) (#114)
    by desertswine on Fri May 24, 2019 at 02:53:28 PM EST
    Ancient Aliens - thank the stars.

    More garlic (5.00 / 2) (#172)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon May 27, 2019 at 10:56:01 AM EST
    Thought I would share a method I have found I like for crushing garlic.  I don't like slicing it and I don't really like crushers so I made this up.  Today I'm making one of my favorites sticky shiitake mushrooms


    You put the garlic in a baggie and you find something to smack it with I have an old heavy knife that works perfectly

    you bash it After bashing it a bit you use the narrow edge to bash it more finely

    You want to try to keep it away from the bad edges or it may burst an edge.  This is easy to do with the back of the knife. When you got it

    you cut the bottom off the baggie and deposit the garlic where ever you want it

    Happy memorial day

    Magnolia (5.00 / 1) (#191)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed May 29, 2019 at 09:08:01 AM EST
    Very cool (5.00 / 2) (#202)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed May 29, 2019 at 01:23:58 PM EST
    If you turn on the weather channel (none / 0) (#1)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue May 21, 2019 at 04:37:38 PM EST
    You will see closeups of my area.  There are twisters on the ground very close.  The whole state of MO has been declared a disaster area.

    The line is now minutes away and the sun is shining brightly and it's very hot.  That not good.

    If I'm still here in an hour I will check in.

    My dogs (5.00 / 1) (#10)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue May 21, 2019 at 09:24:29 PM EST
    Have been under the bed since about 5 but we are still here

    Hang in there (none / 0) (#11)
    by Militarytracy on Tue May 21, 2019 at 09:44:49 PM EST
    Just saw the weather

    Check in when/if you can.


    Jefferson City, MO was struck tonight ... (none / 0) (#60)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Thu May 23, 2019 at 02:58:57 AM EST
    ... by a large tornado described as "Max 13 velocity." I have no idea what that term actually means, but it sounds bad. And unfortunately, the most common adjective being used tonight in the CBS News coverage is "catastrophic," and it's being treated as a "mass casualty event." Let's hope those descriptions later prove to be overstated.

    Just heard (none / 0) (#64)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu May 23, 2019 at 07:29:22 AM EST
    There are no deaths known yet but lots of damage in Jef City but several dead and more expected in the Joplin area where a tornado was on the ground for more than an hour.

    I had a tiny crack in my windshield for (none / 0) (#2)
    by McBain on Tue May 21, 2019 at 04:42:23 PM EST
    several months then it grew exponentially overnight for some reason. My insurance has a $100 windshield deductible so it wasn't horrible to fix.  I think some carries cover completely.  

    As for weather, it's been unusually rainy in the SF Bay Area but nothing horrible.        

    Trumps taxes (none / 0) (#3)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue May 21, 2019 at 07:17:24 PM EST
    Executive privilege (5.00 / 1) (#5)
    by jondee on Tue May 21, 2019 at 08:20:33 PM EST
    the consecrated inner sanctum of the last refuge of the scoundrel.

    I cannot see how Executive Privilege could (5.00 / 4) (#8)
    by Peter G on Tue May 21, 2019 at 08:47:34 PM EST
    have anything to do with a House Committee subpoena to the IRS for the President's tax returns. Exec Priv protects the privacy of the President's consultations with his/her advisers, leading to presidential, Executive Branch policy and strategy decisions. That has nothing to do with the preparation or submission of the President's tax returns, even those filed while in office.

    Agreed. (none / 0) (#37)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Wed May 22, 2019 at 02:53:46 PM EST
    Given that the law in question was drafted and enacted in the wake of the infamous Teapot Dome scandal of the 1920s, its language is unambiguous and to the point, and the likely intent of its author(s) was to preclude any claim of executive privilege by members of the administration.

    Peter (none / 0) (#48)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed May 22, 2019 at 05:17:36 PM EST
    Today Chuck Rosenberg (link) said that an impeachment investigation would allow the dems to get grand jury testimony.  

    I don't think I have heard that before.  True?


    Chuck Rosenberg (none / 0) (#49)
    by KeysDan on Wed May 22, 2019 at 05:22:22 PM EST
    also mentioned that last night on one of the MSNBC shows.  

    Disclosure of grand jury material (none / 0) (#57)
    by Peter G on Wed May 22, 2019 at 09:42:24 PM EST
    is governed by Rule 6(e) of the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure. (The Federal Rules are promulgated by the Supreme Court.) I don't see anything in the rule addressing this question, which ordinarily would mean it is not authorized. But there very well may be something special about the powers of a Congressional committee that I am not aware of.

    "What Powers Does a Formal Impeachment (none / 0) (#69)
    by KeysDan on Thu May 23, 2019 at 10:19:12 AM EST
    Inquiry Give the House?" by Molly E. Reynolds and Margaret Taylor (Lawfare, Tuesday, May 21, 2019) is instructive generally, and addresses, grand jury information, specifically.

    ...."Impeachment proceedings may also give the judiciary committee a stronger case for obtaining certain materials protected from disclosure by statute, like the grand jury materials from SC. Robert Mueller's investigation."

    The authors go on to explain that there are certain exceptions to Rule 6(e) for specified purposes as well as precedent in the context of the Watergate impeachment proceedings.

    However, in that case, the court opinion relied largely on a theory of inherent judicial authority, rather than a specific exception in statute, so as to turn the Watergate "road map" over to the House judiciary committee.

    "But on April 5 (2019), the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit ruled that judges don't have inherent authority to release grand jury materials and must instead rely solely on exceptions outlined in Rule 6(e)."    "...so if such information is wanted, Chairman Nadler would likely need to convince the judge that release of the materials is preliminarily to or in connection with a judicial proceeding."

    Bottom line, according to Reynolds and Taylor: It is easier to argue that an open impeachment proceeding is akin to a "judicial proceeding" than it is to argue that any run-of-the-mill oversight activities are preliminary to a judicial proceeding.


    Maybe (none / 0) (#4)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue May 21, 2019 at 08:16:23 PM EST
    The law "might be read to preclude a claim of executive privilege"

    I wonder how much (none / 0) (#6)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue May 21, 2019 at 08:24:20 PM EST
    of a point that is going to be when NY releases his taxes to congress. Since I've never had to do NY taxes I wonder how much they differ from the feds and how much you will find out from them.

    More (none / 0) (#40)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed May 22, 2019 at 03:44:59 PM EST
    A federal judge in New York City on Wednesday said Deutsche Bank and Capitol One can turn over financial documents related to President Donald Trump and his businesses in response to subpoenas from House Democrats.

    Judge Edgardo Ramos's ruling came after a hearing at which lawyers for Trump, his three older children, and the Trump Organization argued that the subpoenas should be quashed.

    His decision came two days after another federal judge, in Washington, D.C., said Trump's accountants at the firm Mazars LLP had to comply with a congressional subpoena for his financial records

    Here in Atlanta (none / 0) (#7)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue May 21, 2019 at 08:28:24 PM EST
    cracks in windshields are the norm. It's such a big business we have people that will come to your house and fix your windshield. My husband had that done one time in the 90's and it was awesome.

    In Florida it is against the law (none / 0) (#136)
    by ruffian on Sat May 25, 2019 at 11:17:12 AM EST
    to have a large crack and the insurance companies have to cover it all. It is usually the only claim I ever make so I take full advantage.

    The guy came to my house to replace it a few months ago and I set him up mostly in the garage for the shade. He set the new windshield on a stand near the car, and while he was removing the old one he accidentally pressed the button on the rear view mirror that shuts the garage door, and it came down and smashed the new windshield. I was horrified I had forgotten to mention that button was there and to be careful. Lucky it was not worse and he was not hurt. After many mutual apologies I had to go into their shop anyway, that was faster than them sending out another one.

    Never a dull moment...I'm getting my roof replaced this week, I'm sure that will bring untold adventures. I am lucky there that it was not hurricane caused since that deductible is so much higher. Caught it after a major storm, but non-hurricane so it only costs me $1000 out of pocket.

    And as i type the dumpster is arriving! Let the games begin. Im sure my cats will love the pounding on the roof on Tuesday..


    Road warrior and 3 time (none / 0) (#9)
    by desertswine on Tue May 21, 2019 at 09:20:25 PM EST
    Formula One champion Niki Lauda has died.

    This is why people race -- to feel the speed, the car and the control.

    "Niki Lauda, the Austrian racecar driver who won three world championships in Formula One, the sport's highest level of international competition, and was regarded as one of the greatest speedway drivers of all time, died on Monday in Zurich. He was 70."

    Niki came very close (none / 0) (#17)
    by jondee on Wed May 22, 2019 at 09:31:23 AM EST
    to buying it at least once before. I remember that crash.

    He seemed like a good man. RIP


    I never followed the sport but I enjoyed (none / 0) (#23)
    by McBain on Wed May 22, 2019 at 12:09:10 PM EST
    the film Rush.  Good performance by Daniel Brühl as Lauda.

    Has anyone heard from CaptHowdy? (none / 0) (#12)
    by Militarytracy on Wed May 22, 2019 at 08:08:03 AM EST

    Hi! (5.00 / 5) (#13)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed May 22, 2019 at 08:20:57 AM EST
    We good.  The deck furniture was down the street visiting the neighbor. But it's back now

    Glad to hear (5.00 / 5) (#15)
    by Zorba on Wed May 22, 2019 at 08:40:49 AM EST
    That you're okay!

    Thank goodness (none / 0) (#16)
    by Militarytracy on Wed May 22, 2019 at 09:04:28 AM EST
    Sounds like it has been rough in your neighborhood.

    Most of the really bad stuff (none / 0) (#28)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed May 22, 2019 at 12:54:39 PM EST
    Missed us.  It was just loud and windy.  I don't mind either except there are some massive trees around my house that could squash it flat.  I need some tree trimming.  I think I will accelerate that.  Maybe.

    We are supposed to have several dry days (none / 0) (#14)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed May 22, 2019 at 08:24:55 AM EST
    Now.  I really hope so because my grass is totally outta control.  It's not just that mowing in the rain or even when it wet is bad but my yard is so steep it's actually quite unsafe to try it when it muddy or slick.

    So we hoping for a dry spell.


    This Rise Garden thing (none / 0) (#18)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed May 22, 2019 at 10:40:42 AM EST
    Happening right now is utterly bizarre

    I have never heard a public official sound so desperate and panicked

    Chuck and Nancy (none / 0) (#19)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed May 22, 2019 at 10:44:03 AM EST
    Are about to respond.  Seriously, if you have a tv turn it on.

    We are being told (5.00 / 2) (#20)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed May 22, 2019 at 10:53:09 AM EST
    This was a spontaneous event caused by Nancy saying he was involved in a coverup.

    But they just HAPPENED to have a little placard that was clearly professionally printed.  

    Even with current desktop technology there is no f'ing way that was made between Nancy's statement and that performance

    This is clearly some kind of plan.  I think he really is trying to goad them into impeachment.

    They should give him what he wants.


    Ill say this (none / 0) (#21)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed May 22, 2019 at 10:57:43 AM EST
    By saying we ain't doin nothing until you stop investigating he has once again given Nancy the high road and a chance to say with weight he is the one stopping anything from happening and democrats are seriously trying.

    Maybe Nancy knows what she is doing.


    McConnell (none / 0) (#25)
    by KeysDan on Wed May 22, 2019 at 12:24:00 PM EST
    may have had a hand in the plan.  The Republicans in the Senate were unlikely to buy into the Democrats ideas to build roads, bridges, clean energy grids, or electric cars.  Saves the turtle and his gang getting a bad rap on defeating popular programs.

    Trump and the Republicans prefer to bring back those good coal mining, elevator operator, and gas pumping/windshield wiping attendant jobs.  Oh well, there goes another Trump Infrastructure Week.


    Oh sure (none / 0) (#27)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed May 22, 2019 at 12:30:44 PM EST
    Nancy called it by saying he was never going to do this and this is just excuse number infinity.

    But what he did....
    That takes us to a whole new place.  We really are in a new world now.  I can't imagine Mitch is happy with the possibility that now there might not be a budget deal or a deal for disaster aid or anything else.

    If I was giving the benefit of a doubt and guessing I might guess Nancy's plan is to hold off until he defies a court order.  Which we all know is coming.  It's coming.

    Then we will be in another new world.


    She did an event after that (none / 0) (#29)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed May 22, 2019 at 12:59:27 PM EST
    Where she went farther on the impeachment talk than she ever has.

    I think the plan this morning was to kick up the rhetoric and keep the pressure on.  

    Judging by Trump completely losing his shi+ in the Rose Garden it's hard to say it's not working.


    I (none / 0) (#30)
    by FlJoe on Wed May 22, 2019 at 01:02:18 PM EST
    know there is plenty of angst on our side about when and if to impeach, but imagine what it is like on the other side. They are not only wondering what Nancy is going to do but they are surely on pins and needles wondering what the moron in chief is going to do next.

    Professor Lawrence Tribe (none / 0) (#31)
    by KeysDan on Wed May 22, 2019 at 01:12:06 PM EST
    foresees Judge Mehta's ruling in the Mazars Accounting case being upheld not only at the appellate level, but also, by the Supreme Court (assuming the Court takes the case) 9 to 0.

    President Toddler again proves (none / 0) (#32)
    by desertswine on Wed May 22, 2019 at 01:14:00 PM EST
    that he can't play with the big boys and girls.

    Even his boyfriend Lindsey (none / 0) (#33)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed May 22, 2019 at 01:20:25 PM EST
    Is freaked out.

    We have not (none / 0) (#50)
    by KeysDan on Wed May 22, 2019 at 05:24:29 PM EST
    had a toddler in the White House since John John.

    I had to watch (none / 0) (#53)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed May 22, 2019 at 07:37:35 PM EST
    it after you posted this. I'm not sure if that was a good decision on my part or not.

    Maybe, (none / 0) (#22)
    by KeysDan on Wed May 22, 2019 at 12:04:31 PM EST
    Nancy knows what she is doing, but does he?  

    Beats me (5.00 / 1) (#24)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed May 22, 2019 at 12:21:05 PM EST
    That was one of the crazies things I have ever seen.  It was like a bad movie about politics that would be completely unbelievable

    I think what he did was on its face a terrible political decision.  Will it work for him?

    Who knows.  But I do think "I pray for the president" will be in the history books.


    Yes, (5.00 / 1) (#26)
    by KeysDan on Wed May 22, 2019 at 12:27:12 PM EST
    Nancy's prayers for the president were nice.  

    Nancy Pelosi is slow-boiling a frog. (5.00 / 1) (#36)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Wed May 22, 2019 at 02:47:29 PM EST
    She knows exactly what she's doing, and far better than most of her critics in the east coast punditocracy know what they're talking about.

    To offer an otherwise inappropriate firearms analogy, if American democracy is a gun, then impeachment is the last bullet in the chamber. Speaker Pelosi just wants to make sure she has a clear shot before pulling the trigger.



    When the creators of "South Park" ... (none / 0) (#35)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Wed May 22, 2019 at 02:39:16 PM EST
    ... came up with the inspiration for the term "Derp," it wouldn't surprise me at all if they had Alan Dershowitz in mind. It's highly unlikely that this self-absorbed Fox News rodeo clown ever even bothered to read the Mueller Report. His fanciful vision of Trump as both the victim of hyper-prosecution by the Hateful Left and a poster child for American civil liberties is reflective of a man who's content to live off the residual fat of his own once-formidable reputation. He should seriously consider retirement.

    Has anyone noticed a garlic shortage? (none / 0) (#39)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed May 22, 2019 at 03:40:20 PM EST
    For the second time I have gone to two different big supermarkets and Walmart and the is no loose fresh garlic.

    Only the kind in little mesh bundles.

    This is unacceptable.   I need my garlic.

    Ever had garlic ice cream? (5.00 / 1) (#128)
    by Chuck0 on Fri May 24, 2019 at 07:55:46 PM EST
    I tried it at the garlic festival in Gilroy, CA many years ago.

    My kids say it's not as good as fresh (none / 0) (#41)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Wed May 22, 2019 at 03:50:58 PM EST
    It is absolutely not (none / 0) (#42)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed May 22, 2019 at 04:00:43 PM EST
    As good as fresh.  Not even close.

    They are correct.


    We've got a great source (5.00 / 2) (#47)
    by jondee on Wed May 22, 2019 at 04:43:51 PM EST
    here. A big organic farm that takes particular pride in their garlic. The kind with the purple stripes on the outside. It's the next thing to the staff of life.

    You must (none / 0) (#52)
    by Ga6thDem on Wed May 22, 2019 at 05:42:08 PM EST
    have some fantastic farms up there. I've only had the apples but they are wonderful.

    The apples in the late fall (5.00 / 1) (#55)
    by jondee on Wed May 22, 2019 at 09:03:52 PM EST
    here are the best I've ever had. And we've got a great public market here and a lot of roadside farm stands that are loaded with fresh goodies in mid-to-late summer.

    Definately one of life's tender mercies.


    I'll be honest (none / 0) (#44)
    by CST on Wed May 22, 2019 at 04:04:53 PM EST
    I've started keeping a jar around (in water though).   I still have fresh garlic but I only use it when I want whole cloves, for minced I started going the lazy route.

    Yup. Me too. (5.00 / 1) (#74)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Thu May 23, 2019 at 12:06:55 PM EST
    I'm kind of a garlic addict (none / 0) (#45)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed May 22, 2019 at 04:09:19 PM EST
    And I use huge amounts.  When a recipe calls for a clove I normally use most or all of a bulb.  

    I mention it here because I just did a search and there's nothing but some stuff about a shortage in 2016.

    It must just be some weird thing about distributors locally I guess.


    I went to the store this morning (5.00 / 1) (#51)
    by Zorba on Wed May 22, 2019 at 05:25:32 PM EST
    And there was plenty of loose garlic.
    I can't cook without garlic.  I put it in almost everything.  Except dessert.

    In the immortal words (5.00 / 1) (#54)
    by jondee on Wed May 22, 2019 at 08:42:44 PM EST
    of Frank Z, our kitchen usually emits a garlic aroma that could level Tacoma.

    Garlic, (none / 0) (#66)
    by Zorba on Thu May 23, 2019 at 08:42:43 AM EST
    Also onions and shallots.
    I wouldn't know how to cook without the allium family.

    Looking up allium now (none / 0) (#67)
    by jondee on Thu May 23, 2019 at 08:53:22 AM EST
    Yes! (none / 0) (#71)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu May 23, 2019 at 11:04:34 AM EST
    Onions, white and yellow, garlic, shallots, leeks yum.

    And red (none / 0) (#72)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu May 23, 2019 at 11:05:04 AM EST
    Love red onions

    And even (none / 0) (#76)
    by Zorba on Thu May 23, 2019 at 02:08:00 PM EST
    Chives.  I like those, too.

    And green onions (none / 0) (#77)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu May 23, 2019 at 02:35:50 PM EST
    Not exactly the same as chives, right?

    A southern favorite of mine that come to think of it I haven't had in ages is wilted lettuce salad.  With radishes and green onions fresh from the garden.


    Scallions/Green Onions (5.00 / 1) (#98)
    by jmacWA on Fri May 24, 2019 at 05:26:15 AM EST
    If you have never had them grilled you should give it a try, simply trim them up and put in a small grill pan on the BBQ and baste with olive oil.  MMM

    peeling garlic (5.00 / 3) (#130)
    by leap on Fri May 24, 2019 at 10:56:39 PM EST
    I usually use a whole bulb of garlic when I cook things with garlic. I learned this method about six or seven years ago and wondered then, why did no one teach us this decades ago??? It should be taught in grade school. Home Ec, for sure. It's so slick! I bought two metal bowls just for peeling garlic. Well, I do use them for other things, but that's why I initially got them.

    That is impressive (5.00 / 2) (#131)
    by Ga6thDem on Sat May 25, 2019 at 05:44:27 AM EST
    I cook all the time and never thought to learn that there might be a better way to deal with garlic. I have not made 40 garlic clove chicken in a long time for the very reason of peeling garlic.

    Off the subject of garlic, (5.00 / 1) (#132)
    by Zorba on Sat May 25, 2019 at 07:10:42 AM EST
    Although still about peeling.
    You can peel hard-boiled eggs easily by putting an egg in a mason jar with an inch of water, put the lid on, and shake the heck out of that jar.
    The peel practically flies off the egg.

    Another quick tip -- Mango (5.00 / 3) (#133)
    by jmacWA on Sat May 25, 2019 at 07:26:17 AM EST
    I am enjoying my Mango smoothies a lot more since I found this method of peeling mangoes.  IMO the 10 seconds is a bit of an exaggeration, but it certainly is quick.

    I learned the garlic trick (none / 0) (#134)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat May 25, 2019 at 07:51:47 AM EST
    A while back.  I only recently learned the egg trick from the inter tubes

    Mangoes galore down here. (none / 0) (#146)
    by fishcamp on Sat May 25, 2019 at 04:10:22 PM EST
    Thanx for the great tip.

    Now that is genius! (none / 0) (#145)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Sat May 25, 2019 at 03:23:21 PM EST
    A lot of the country's garlic ... (none / 0) (#61)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Thu May 23, 2019 at 03:20:37 AM EST
    ... is grown in northern California, and they've had an awful lot of rain there this winter, which may have affected the harvest.

    Are local conditions in Arkansas conducive to the possibility of growing your own garlic?



    I could only find the (none / 0) (#63)
    by Militarytracy on Thu May 23, 2019 at 07:14:29 AM EST
    Little mesh bags a couple weeks ago too.

    Maybe Donald is right (none / 0) (#65)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu May 23, 2019 at 07:30:02 AM EST
    Not sure about growing

    We have mesh-bag garlic bulbs (none / 0) (#138)
    by Peter G on Sat May 25, 2019 at 11:25:04 AM EST
    It says they're from Spain. I haven't noticed any basis to complain. Perhaps my tongue is not sophisticated enough.

    The mesh bags (none / 0) (#139)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat May 25, 2019 at 11:44:26 AM EST
    Are still sort of fresh

    Not really sure what the deal is with that  but I know the loose fresh garlic is better.  Fresher.  The bags appear here when the fresh is not around.

    Maybe because it come fro Spain and the other comes from CA.


    Also (none / 0) (#141)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat May 25, 2019 at 11:50:31 AM EST
    For whatever reason the stuff in the mesh bags does not works as well with the easy peeling method mentioned above.

    At least in my experience.


    Yes, I have been making (none / 0) (#148)
    by Militarytracy on Sun May 26, 2019 at 02:45:47 AM EST
    Garlic aioli and confit to drizzle, so I need large juicy bulbs and the bagged seems pretty dry.

    Like Howdy I notice that the loose (none / 0) (#147)
    by Militarytracy on Sun May 26, 2019 at 02:25:55 AM EST
    Bulbs have a longer shelf life and are juicier.  I get used to working with them and then the smaller bagged garlic feels like I'm having to endure a downgrade. I think I'll read up on planting and do it if it discourages woodchucks.

    The other day (5.00 / 1) (#151)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun May 26, 2019 at 07:51:16 AM EST
    In the market I asked about loose garlic and the produce guy said "it weird, we haven't had any fresh garlic in a couple of days.  We only have the little bags"

    Cording to the Guardian, Trump slapped (none / 0) (#115)
    by oculus on Fri May 24, 2019 at 02:58:14 PM EST
    a tariff on Chinese garlic

    How are we going to keep (none / 0) (#116)
    by desertswine on Fri May 24, 2019 at 03:48:02 PM EST
    the vampires away?

    That is probably (none / 0) (#129)
    by Militarytracy on Fri May 24, 2019 at 07:56:19 PM EST
    Where the garlic went.

    It looks like Cheeto (none / 0) (#79)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu May 23, 2019 at 02:53:12 PM EST
    Is having an event promoting a giveaway to people in cowboy hats.  Sound down watching prime.

    I have a cowboy hat.  Where's mine?

    Do (5.00 / 1) (#82)
    by FlJoe on Thu May 23, 2019 at 03:21:17 PM EST
    you have any big agra stocks?
    Do you know any crooked foreign oligarchs?
    The Department of Agriculture cut a contract in January to purchase $22.3 million worth of pork from plants operated by JBS USA, a Colorado-based subsidiary of Brazil's JBS SA, which ranks as the largest meatpacker in the world...

    But previously undisclosed purchase reports obtained by the Daily News this week reveal the administration has since issued at least two more bailouts to JBS, even as Trump's own Justice Department began investigating the meatpacker, whose owners are Joesley and Wesley Batista -- two wealthy brothers who have confessed to bribing hundreds of top officials in Brazil.

    Both brothers have spent time in jail over the sweeping corruption scandal.

    If not you are out of luck.

    All that sweet "free" money from Jhina out of reach,sad.


    Speaking of Prime (none / 0) (#81)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu May 23, 2019 at 03:03:32 PM EST
    I discovered something I really like.  It's a series based on a popular podcast called LORE.  I'm liking this trend of making tv from podcasts.

    Just as the most effective lies often hold a grain of truth, the most terrifying stories are usually grounded in reality. Imagine hearing tales of European noblewomen torturing, killing, and biting the flesh off the bodies of young girls, practitioners of voodoo in the French Quarter who could predict financial success as well as the survival of sick children, mysterious cases of humans spontaneously bursting into flame -- and then being told that the stories were not stories at all, but that they actually happened. The nonfiction horror podcast "Lore" does just that, sneakily teaching its audience the ugly parts of history and unveiling the lasting effects of past injustices under the guise of a typical ghost story.

    "Lore" is narrated, written, and produced by a single man: Aaron Mahnke. After the wave of acclaim surrounding the podcast's initial release in 2015, Mahnke's investigations into scary, real events have been adapted into a collection of books as well as a horror anthology series on Amazon Prime. The latest chapter of "Lore" is Episode 98: Never Alone, released on Oct. 15, detailing the formation of Seattle Underground in the mid-1800s, a seedy collection of gambling parlors and brothels that resided beneath the shiny, new downtown Seattle that was constructed after a devastating fire burnt most of the city to the ground.

    Assange (none / 0) (#83)
    by FlJoe on Thu May 23, 2019 at 03:23:18 PM EST
    just hit with 17 new charges.

    We are going to have to be supportive (5.00 / 1) (#84)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu May 23, 2019 at 03:49:12 PM EST
    Of you-know-who

    Actually now that I know more about it (5.00 / 2) (#88)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu May 23, 2019 at 08:07:58 PM EST
    We may have that most rare area of agreement

    This sounds pretty grim from a first amendment perspective.

    Congratulations to the Trump DOJ for doing yet another unbelievable thing of making Julian f'ing Assange a sympathetic figure.


    I hope this means that Chelsea Manning (5.00 / 3) (#89)
    by Peter G on Thu May 23, 2019 at 09:13:10 PM EST
    Will be released again - and immediately - from her latest hit for contempt of the Assange grand jury.

    I don't (none / 0) (#91)
    by NoSides on Thu May 23, 2019 at 10:07:33 PM EST
    see that this helps Mannings case at all.
    How do you see it helping her?

    Once the grand jury returns an indictment (5.00 / 1) (#92)
    by Peter G on Thu May 23, 2019 at 10:29:18 PM EST
    its function is over. and the refusal of any witness to testify before that grand jury is moot. Incarcerating Manning for civil contempt can no longer serve its coercive purpose, so she should be released.

    Yes (none / 0) (#93)
    by NoSides on Thu May 23, 2019 at 10:33:49 PM EST
    She should be released.

    But could you tell me how the new indictments against Assange helps that?

    I don't understand the connection.



    Oh.. I understand.. (none / 0) (#96)
    by NoSides on Thu May 23, 2019 at 10:56:00 PM EST

    The indictments were rendered by a Federal Grand Jury - so Manning's testimony would no longer be required.

    But I must admit I will be surprised, albeit pleasantly, if Manning is indeed released.


    At last! (none / 0) (#90)
    by NoSides on Thu May 23, 2019 at 10:05:32 PM EST
    Sanity and courage from the New York Times regarding the persecution of Julian Assange:

    "Julian Assange's Indictment Aims at the Heart of the First Amendment.

    The Trump administration seeks to use the Espionage Act to redefine what journalists can and cannot publish."

    I'm sure that there are people here who are sympathetic to and have profited from the work of Assange, but I have only read contempt. I think it is time to rethink that while there is still time.

    Give us a break professor (5.00 / 2) (#99)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri May 24, 2019 at 08:30:39 AM EST
    The NYTimes doesn't give a rats azz about Assange and I dare say no one here give one either.

    He is not a journalist. No one cares.

    What we care about is the first amendment.  Every criticism of the DOJ that will come in the coming weeks will come while holding back a gag that it requires defending a slime bucket like Assange.

    But it's not unusual for smart fascists to choose a hated figure as a vehicle to push there authoritarian BS.  It quite a common tactic to hope no one will defend them.  They are wrong.
    And so are you.

    So please, spare us the lectures we have Assanges number and we have yours too.


    Using Assange (5.00 / 1) (#103)
    by KeysDan on Fri May 24, 2019 at 09:38:06 AM EST
    to go after publishers sounds like advice given by Victor Orban during his offensive visit to the White House.  Not that Trump needs fascism lessons, but the creeping authoritarianism in Hungary was, no doubt, good for him to hear.

    Last GOT post for a while (none / 0) (#94)
    by ragebot on Thu May 23, 2019 at 10:39:18 PM EST
    Trump gives new powers to Barr (none / 0) (#95)
    by ragebot on Thu May 23, 2019 at 10:49:50 PM EST
    As prez Trump can declassify anything at will and he has delegated that power to Barr in relation to investigations about how Mueller was appointed.

    I got a kick out of Shift saying releasing documents was part of a cover up.

    "The coverup has entered a new and dangerous phase," Schiff said in a statement released late Thursday. "This is un-American."

    You (5.00 / 2) (#97)
    by FlJoe on Fri May 24, 2019 at 04:58:24 AM EST
    don't suppose that the released info will be a bit cherry picked?

    You think ? (5.00 / 1) (#100)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri May 24, 2019 at 08:43:17 AM EST
    You think he will declassify the stuff that makes the Orange Monkey look good while fighting in court to conceal the classified stuff that everyone wants and needs to see.

    Unamerican is an understatement I think.

    I can't think of another time when the full force of the DOJ has been deployed against the administrations political enemies out in the open clearly stated and being run by an AG who makes Nixon's men look like amatures

    This is I think of a piece with the new Assange charges.  They are trying to make sure none of the damning information we all know exists makes it out.

    I doubt they will succeed.  But they are going to give it a good try.


    No doubt (none / 0) (#101)
    by ragebot on Fri May 24, 2019 at 08:59:16 AM EST
    a lot of very embarrassing information will be disclosed.

    As I have posted multiple times before Florida has some of the strongest Sunshine Laws in the US.  I am always in favor of releasing more documents.  While I do understand the issue of cherry picking it is clear to most folks that there is a serious problem with confidence in the intelligence community.

    I have to say my spending for popcorn will definitely go up once things start getting released.


    If you honestly think (5.00 / 4) (#102)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri May 24, 2019 at 09:19:10 AM EST
    Disclosures supervised by Barr will be "good" for anyone but Trump and Barr it's really worse than I thought.

    But have fun.  By all means.


    A serious matter (none / 0) (#104)
    by KeysDan on Fri May 24, 2019 at 10:03:24 AM EST
    such as this would in saner times be neither red nor blue---fundamentals of national security would be paramount.  But no, just another attempt to own liberals.  And, with the despicable and lying Barr given the keys.   Republicans will stick with the corrupt and self-serving Trump so long as he ___.  

    I'm very curious to see how (none / 0) (#105)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri May 24, 2019 at 10:08:20 AM EST
    For example, the FBI responds to this.  Something tells me they have been punched in the face enough.

    Yes (5.00 / 1) (#109)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri May 24, 2019 at 10:33:46 AM EST
    you can start to see the exasperation on the FBI and intelligence community lately. The counterintelligence investigation against Trump must basically show he is a Russian asset if Barr and Trump are going to this length.

    Yes, or (5.00 / 1) (#111)
    by KeysDan on Fri May 24, 2019 at 11:07:52 AM EST
    a Russian agent.  As Barr did to save the Republican Party for Daddy Bush, so too is Barr attempting to save the Republican Party for Trump.   The scope given to Barr is obviously disproportionate to an "Oranges" investigation of the investigators.

    Barr, apparently Opus Dei, or Opus Dei -adjacent, is radicalized in his religious march to sustain holy Republicanism  and keep Democrats at bay.  For Opus Dei, the end justifies the means.  Hence, trickery and deceit are his guideposts.  The contempt of Congress voted out of committee needs to be taken, immediately, to the floor for vote.  This action tarnishes his metal and may justify restricted  cooperation by patriots.  And, how about instituting an impeachment inquiry for this dangerous liar.


    I'm (none / 0) (#106)
    by FlJoe on Fri May 24, 2019 at 10:27:13 AM EST
    wondering about the CIA, he wants them to give up their human resources in Russia, pretty much the crown jewels of their agency.

    Plus Coats and others (none / 0) (#107)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri May 24, 2019 at 10:28:03 AM EST
    This is going to get interesting

    Coats (5.00 / 1) (#123)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri May 24, 2019 at 06:20:07 PM EST
    The Director of National Intelligence has just issued a thinly-veiled warning to Attorney General Bill Barr to not overstep now that President Trump has created unprecedented, sweeping powers for the head of the Dept. of Justice. Thursday night the intelligence community and intel experts were stunned when Trump announced he had given Barr total authority to declassify any information related to any investigation of the 2016 election.

    Dan Coats, the Director of National Intelligence (DNI) warned Barr in a public memo to work "in accordance with the long-established standards to protect highly-sensitive classified information," and not "put our national security at risk."

    He (none / 0) (#108)
    by FlJoe on Fri May 24, 2019 at 10:32:43 AM EST
    has directly accused Comey, Mccabe, Strozk and Lisa page of treason.

    The longtime dream (none / 0) (#110)
    by KeysDan on Fri May 24, 2019 at 10:39:43 AM EST
    of a Trump Tower-Moscow is heading to reality.  

    They now need to subpoena Mueller (5.00 / 1) (#112)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri May 24, 2019 at 11:08:15 AM EST
    For public testimony.  Screw his concerns about political spectacle

    I'm over Muellers delicate sensibilities


    Absolutely. (5.00 / 1) (#113)
    by KeysDan on Fri May 24, 2019 at 11:31:27 AM EST
    It is rich that he does not want to be seen as political or is concerned by the mean or grandstanding House committee members--Democrats or Republicans.  

    Mueller prepared summaries of his report for the public, the entire report has been published, and he referred his work to Congress.  Accordingly, it is critical for the public to hear from the horses mouth, so to say, for clarifications and the thinking behind his judgments. Mueller, too, is an old and sophisticated witness before Congress.  Transcripts are nice but fall into the same category as the written report---scant readership of important information.  And, he knows that.

    I suspect more going on here. Apologies to the Saint Mueller fans, but I believe Mueller does not want to go against Barr. Mueller's rapid "correction" of the Buzzfeed story was a give away.  Jailing the likes of the felon Manafort, or the hapless Papadopouls is one thing, sending the Republican Party the way of the Whigs is another.


    "No doubt"? (5.00 / 1) (#122)
    by Yman on Fri May 24, 2019 at 06:08:54 PM EST
    Heh.  Wingnuts and their tinfoil conspiracy theories are funny.

    While I do understand the issue of cherry picking it is clear to most folks that there is a serious problem with confidence in the intelligence community.

    I love when you guys pretend to speak for "most folks".  The intelligence community is order-of-magnitude more credible than the pathological liar you guys support, along with his puppet at DOJ.

    Save some of that popcorn money for the 20 or so investigations that spun off of the Mueller investigation.  Not to mention those that will conclude once Trump can actually be indicted.


    No Substitute for the Real Thing. (none / 0) (#117)
    by KeysDan on Fri May 24, 2019 at 04:38:33 PM EST
    The current proxy for the initiation of an impeachment inquiry is Speaker Pelosi's declaration "no one is above the law, including the president, and we believe the President engaged in a cover-up" And, stinging retorts such as Trump needing an intervention.

    Tough talk may hold many Democrats who believe the House needs to move to an impeachment inquiry at bay as well as ameliorate stalwart Congressional supporters, such as Jackie Speier (CA) and Jamie Raskin (MD).

    However, assertions of a "cover-up" are more than tough talk---it is an assertion of a misdeed, a breach of trust, or a crime. A possible article of impeachment admitted the Speaker which does not seem in correspondence with the need to "follow the facts" before we have an impeachment inquiry. The Mueller Report, redacted, has pages of factual material ready for their close-up.

    The strategy is bolstered by recent favorable Court rulings. However, risks cannot be ignored---rulings yield wins and losses. Readings of the law may seem clear-cut, but the law is what the Courts say it is.

    The strategy is to investigate all the same, just without any impeachment labeling. Patience is called for, but the acme of resources are needed to effectively address the clear and present dangers.

    It is understandable, too, that impeachment, just in the name of the inquiry, may freak out a portion of the electorate and office holders---dooming prospects for 2020.  But, the past is not always prologue.  It is claimed that the 2018 Democratic victory in 2018 was not about Trump.  It was about health care.  

    No, it was not about health care, it was about Trump and Republicans' threats and attempts to take health care away, including coverage for preexisting conditions.  Trump was not on the ticket in 2018, yet he was.

    I totally agree (none / 0) (#118)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri May 24, 2019 at 05:02:39 PM EST
    The idea that the last election or the next one is about anything but Trump is delusional.  The idea they are going to be able to cut through the Trump show by passing reasonable legislation that has zero chance of even being voted on in the senate, while admirable, is detached from reality.

    The can not go around Trump.  They can not go over or under him.  They can only go through him.  The next election goes through Trump.  Period.

    That said, I am somewhat in sync with the idea Trump desperately wants the house to start impeachment hearings.

    That may or may not be in itself delusional.  That's a harder question.  But he wants it.  And I think he and the republicans could make a lot of hay with it.

    My impression after the last few days is Nancy knows what she is doing.  She has a singular ability to get in his head.  I'm currently ok with keeping a firm hold on his short hairs and watching him flail.

    The Barr in charge thing is very troubling but my gut says it's as much for show and for the base as it is intended to have any real attainable goal.

    These people they are attempting to herd are not accustomed to being herded.  I think there is ample opportunity for blowing up in their face.


    Here's my argument. (5.00 / 1) (#149)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sun May 26, 2019 at 05:37:29 AM EST
    Five different House committees are already engaged in investigations of Trump and his administration, campaign and business interests. They should first complete their work and submit their findings of fact to the Speaker and the House Judiciary Committee, before any impeachment inquiry is formally convened.

    Let's please remember that the House did not formally open an impeachment inquiry regarding President Nixon and Watergate until May 9, 1974, after a year of fact-finding by various congressional standing and select committees, a special prosecutor and a grand jury. That inquiry served as the culmination of the congressional oversight and investigatory process, not its commencement.

    With relatively few exceptions, nearly everybody in the Beltway's babbling punditocracy thinks they know exactly what the political consequences of impeachment would be for everyone involved, the truth of the matter is that nobody really knows at all. The best anyone can offer at this point is an educated guess. Pull the trigger on impeachment too early before the facts are gathered, and Democrats risk playing Trump's game and not theirs. The more deliberate and thorough the process, the greater the likelihood of a successful outcome.

    That's why it's important to stand with Speaker Pelosi and let her lead us on this matter. She knows that opening an impeachment inquiry is not necessarily conducive to investigation and fact-finding. Rather, it's the process by which the House Judiciary Committee formally opens its deliberations and debate amongst its members about impeaching the president, which means that the evidence should already be before them.

    The 1974 inquiry was about 11 weeks long, and ended on July 30, 1974 when the Judiciary Committee approved articles of impeachment and referred them to the House for its members' consideration. President Nixon announced his resignation nine days later.



    It All Boils Down To (none / 0) (#156)
    by RickyJim on Sun May 26, 2019 at 10:08:14 AM EST
    Would a formal impeachment inquiry hasten the acquisition of evidence that Trump and Co. are doing their best to hide from investigators?  I have seen arguments (especially in the Wash Po) on both sides of this.  The naysayers state that he would still stonewall after such a house resolution.  My basic assumption is that once the truth is all out, Trump's Republican support would crumble.

    Given Trump & Co,'s behavior thus far, ... (none / 0) (#163)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sun May 26, 2019 at 04:33:52 PM EST
    RickyJim: "Would a formal impeachment inquiry hasten the acquisition of evidence that Trump and Co. are doing their best to hide from investigators?  I have seen arguments (especially in the Wash Po) on both sides of this.  The naysayers state that he would still stonewall after such a house resolution.  My basic assumption is that once the truth is all out, Trump's Republican support would crumble."

    ... I would offer that such a question is entirely rhetorical. As far as your assumptions about Trump's Republican support is concerned, I can only note that I once similarly assumed -- and in obvious hindsight, quite erroneously -- that despite all my other concerns about them, Republicans would still never hand their party's presidential nomination over to such a malevolent and vicious rodeo clown. Therefore, suffice to say it's probably best that we not further assume anything about what Republicans will do from this point forward.

    Rather, we would instead do well to remember that even as the House Judiciary Committee approved articles of impeachment against President Richard Nixon on July 30, 1974, he still retained the support of a majority of Republicans on that committee, with only six of the seventeen GOP members voting to impeach. Further, Nixon still had a 30% public approval rating when he resigned his office.

    All of this, of course, belies the popular revisionist opinion regularly voiced by MSNBC host Brian Williams just as recently as last Thursday evening that "Republicans were the heroes of Watergate." The actual evidence does not even come close to supporting that silly and fatuous contention.

    On the contrary, what it does show is that for all of Nixon's malfeasance and criminal behavior, his impeachment was never a slam dunk, and that our democracy was actually hanging in a far more tenuous and delicate balance back in 1973-74 than I daresay most people presently like to remember.

    Yes, "the Constitution works," as President Gerald Ford first intoned during his initial remarks in the White House East Room following his taking of the oath of office after Nixon's departure. But that was only because enough principled people like Sen. Sam Ervin (D-NC), Rep. Barbara Jordan (D-TX) and Special Prosecutor Leon Jaworski worked very hard to ensure that it actually did.



    It is Much Harder to Excuse (none / 0) (#164)
    by RickyJim on Sun May 26, 2019 at 04:45:17 PM EST
    bank fraud and money laundering, than it is to belittle the obstruction of justice charges, even for a rabid Republican.

    There was plenty of evidence ... (5.00 / 1) (#166)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sun May 26, 2019 at 06:39:04 PM EST
    ... regarding bribery, money laundering and bank fraud in Nixon's case, yet he was ultimately brought down by felony obstruction charges once the public heard his incriminating conversation with White House Chief of Staff H.R. Haldeman as recorded on the Oval Office tape dated June 23, 1972, which was only six days after the attempted break-in and bugging at DNC HQ in the Watergate hotel and office complex.

    And as we now know, the grand jury investigating the Watergate scandal in March 1974 went so far as to draft a proposed four-count felony indictment of President Nixon for obstruction of justice. When prosecutor Leon Jaworski learned about it and polled its nineteen members, they voted unanimously in favor of filing it with the court.

    Jaworski instead talked grand jurors into rewriting that proposed indictment as a report to be submitted to the House Judiciary Committee, which it was two months later. That's what led to the articles of impeachment.

    The bottom line here is that for all our prognosticating, we really don't know what if anything will convince some Republicans to support Trump's impeachment and removal. And when we don't know, we shouldn't therefore assume.



    Why folks discounting red state dems (none / 0) (#119)
    by vicndabx on Fri May 24, 2019 at 05:41:42 PM EST
    who won in 2018, I don't know.

    Win the battle, lose the war.  Impeachment is polling at some number below 50%.

    The MOST important thing we can do is retain and gain power. I agree, let's let the professionals handle this.


    I think (none / 0) (#135)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat May 25, 2019 at 10:01:24 AM EST
    She might be planning to wait until Trump defies a court order.

    I'm not sure can be held off that long.  Or even that it should since we all know its just a matter of time until he does that.


    The Speaker's (none / 0) (#142)
    by KeysDan on Sat May 25, 2019 at 12:16:05 PM EST
    retorts to the bullying Trump are heartening, clearly getting under his thin, orange skin. His schoolyard taunts and middle-school name calling are no match for the intellect and zingers of Mrs. Pelosi.

    However, they need to be measured.  An early morning tweeting exchange, for example, will be counter-productive to her strategic concerns for 2020. In may just play into the mindless assessment of the Chuck Todds and portions of the electorate that "both sides do it," or "why can't we all get along and get something done," "no differences between parties," "Washington is broken", on and on.

    Bite the bullet, take the Constitutional route--- that is what needs to be done. It is going high to Trump's going as low as he can his muck. The democracy is in increasing jeopardy with each passing day.


    Deepfake video (none / 0) (#120)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri May 24, 2019 at 05:48:10 PM EST
    Just in time for 2020 off the shelf technology now makes it point and click easy to make completely fake videos of anyone you have a picture of (check out the moving Mona Lisa) saying anything you want them to say.

    The fake videos of Pelosi posted by Trump in the last 24 hours looking drunk or crazy (I won't link to them but they are everywhere) are really nothing compared to this.

    Deepfaking Mona Lisa

    You really should watch this video.

    Several recent works have shown how highly realistic human head images can be obtained by training convolutional neural networks to generate them. In order to create a personalized talking head model, these works require training on a large dataset of images of a single person. However, in many practical scenarios, such personalized talking head models need to be learned from a few image views of a person, potentially even a single image. Here, we present a system with such few-shot capability. It performs lengthy meta-learning on a large dataset of videos, and after that is able to frame few- and one-shot learning of neural talking head models of previously unseen people as adversarial training problems with high capacity generators and discriminators. Crucially, the system is able to initialize the parameters of both the generator and the discriminator in a person-specific way, so that training can be based on just a few images and done quickly, despite the need to tune tens of millions of parameters. We show that such an approach is able to learn highly realistic and personalized talking head models of new people and even portrait paintings.

    Similar audio tech (none / 0) (#121)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri May 24, 2019 at 06:06:42 PM EST
    Has been around for a while

    Get your kicks on Rt. 90?... (none / 0) (#124)
    by desertswine on Fri May 24, 2019 at 07:00:51 PM EST
    "It's either going to be bloodshed or Liberty State."

    The far-right gathered in Spokane Valley to push for the creation of Liberty State, a 51st US state that is intended to be something of a wildlife sanctuary for Christian conservatives, the Spokesman-Review reported Friday.

    Gonna need more than popcorn.

    Just saw this (none / 0) (#125)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri May 24, 2019 at 07:25:07 PM EST
    Part of me think it's not a bad idea.  BUILD THAT WALL.

    They can totally have the southern half of my state.


    My thinking (5.00 / 1) (#127)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri May 24, 2019 at 07:41:09 PM EST
    is Why Are They Not Setting Up a State that includes south GA, South Alabama and South MS. They could take southern AR too maybe if they too the entire state of MS. I would think the people in those areas are much more amenable to what they are doing than Washington and Oregon. The only reason I can come up with is apparently they think there are too many black people in those areas and that's why they are not going there.

    This is the area where (none / 0) (#126)
    by Peter G on Fri May 24, 2019 at 07:38:12 PM EST
    my wife grew up. Looking forward to seeing some of these folks up close and in person at her 50th high school reunion this summer.

    I also have the dubious duty (none / 0) (#144)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat May 25, 2019 at 03:14:31 PM EST
    Of a 50 year reunion this summer.  I found this interesting.

    The apocalypse of 1969: 50 years ago, modern America was born

    The very mention of this year summons indelible memories. Woodstock and Altamont. Charles Manson and the Zodiac Killer. The televised events of the moon landing and Ted Kennedy's address after Chappaquiddick. The Amazin' Mets and Broadway Joe's Jets. The Stonewall Riots and the Days of Rage. Americans pushed new boundaries on stage, screen, and the printed page. The first punk and metal albums hit the airwaves. Swinger culture became chic. The Santa Barbara oil slick and Cuyahoga River fire highlighted growing ecological devastation. The nationwide Moratorium and the breaking story of the My Lai massacre inspired impassioned debate on the Vietnam War. Richard Nixon spoke of "The Silent Majority" while John and Yoko urged us to "Give Peace a Chance." In this rich and comprehensive narrative, Rob Kirkpatrick chronicles an unparalleled year in American society in all its explosive ups and downs.

    Pot beer whisky wine
    We're the class of 69


    What, it's not named Gilead? (none / 0) (#137)
    by ruffian on Sat May 25, 2019 at 11:18:07 AM EST
    That's what I was thinking (none / 0) (#140)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat May 25, 2019 at 11:45:10 AM EST
    If they had any balls they would just call it what it is.

    No kidding (none / 0) (#143)
    by Zorba on Sat May 25, 2019 at 01:27:26 PM EST
    But "Liberty" sounds so good to those yo-yos.  It harkens back to the Patrick Henry "give me liberty, or give me death!" quote.

    It's not actual liberty they want- it's "liberty" from the government laws protecting the rights of minorities and women.  What they seem to envision is more along the lines of a white supremacist Christianist sharia law state.


    A wildlife sanctuary LOL (none / 0) (#152)
    by Militarytracy on Sun May 26, 2019 at 07:58:24 AM EST
    Free range fanatics (none / 0) (#153)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun May 26, 2019 at 08:15:11 AM EST
    "Miracles do happen." (none / 0) (#150)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sun May 26, 2019 at 06:13:16 AM EST
    After missing for 17 days in the Makawao Forest Reserve, an expansive wilderness area covering the northwest slopes of Haleakala, Amanda Eller has been found by rescuers who never gave up the search for her. She's now listed in good condition at Maui Memorial Medical Center in Kahului, being treated for dehydration, a fractured tibia from a fall off a 20-foot cliff, and an infection on her legs that was a result of a prolonged and severe sunburn.

    She's really lucky. (none / 0) (#161)
    by desertswine on Sun May 26, 2019 at 03:44:35 PM EST
    It looks like there's dinosaurs in those forests.

    People need to remember that ... (none / 0) (#165)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sun May 26, 2019 at 05:20:20 PM EST
    ... while nature can be both seductive and beckoning, you answer its siren calls at your own peril. You show respect for nature by not taking uncalculated risks.

    Hawaii's mountain and valley forests are beautiful, but can be very foreboding. The forest canopy, which is both high and thick, often renders any aerial search for lost parties very problematic unless those parties can find their way to a high point or clearing, as Amanda Eller eventually did. Many people have entered our forests only to never be seen again.

    Now, Ms. Eller is a longtime Maui resident who had run the forest trails of Makawao countless times before, and yet she still managed to somehow become disoriented and get lost in ostensibly familiar territory. Even then, her experience with and knowledge of that forest's environment likely saved her. Our island visitors don't have that particular advantage.

    The joyous yet relieved look on the face of Amanda's mother, who had flown out from Maryland two weeks ago when word first came that her daughter was missing, tells us all that Amanda is indeed a very lucky woman.



    I propose a moratorium on the term (none / 0) (#154)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun May 26, 2019 at 08:30:10 AM EST
    "Walk and chew gum at the same time"

    Just (5.00 / 1) (#155)
    by FlJoe on Sun May 26, 2019 at 08:41:26 AM EST
    had the same thought.

    Here's a thought, when some wag say's that Democrats are doing nothing but investigations call it a lie and move on, no more trite sayings, please.

    The Republican party is literally a house of lies, the media needs to call every lie out in real time.


    HOMECOMING (none / 0) (#157)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun May 26, 2019 at 11:49:35 AM EST
    I just finished this Prime series.  I liked it very much.  Everything about it was good.  The writing the acting the cinematography (especially) and I really like the sly use of recognizable musical riffs from many different sources, movies and tv from Alien to the Twilight Zone to Silence if the Lambs, that come off not a plagiarism but homage

    I only have one question.  Why Julia Roberts.  It's not that her performance was not good.   It was.  But at the risk of sounding ageist her age kept pulling me out of the story.  First we have the budding romance between her and the main soldier character who was (I checked) literally less than half her age.  Then we have her mother being played by (amazingly) by Sissy Spacek who (again, I checked) is technically old enough to BE her mother, barely, but they really look quite close to the same age in the show.  Finally we have the position he holds.  Which is sold in the script as them wanting someone not with experience but a young go getter. She is 51.

    I just don't get it.  It's not like there are not thousands of actors who would have fit the character better.  Even some big names I'm sure.  There were some very serious names associated with this.

    And don't get me wrong I'm all for aging actors being given roles that stretch their abilities to sell it.  And she really did sell it, more or less.

    I just think it was a very odd choice and I think it would have been better with a younger actor and yes I know she got some awards and nominations, that she deserved for the role.  I wonder if anyone else has seen this and felt the same.

    Maybe (none / 0) (#159)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun May 26, 2019 at 12:44:39 PM EST
    Roberts was definitely featured (none / 0) (#173)
    by oculus on Mon May 27, 2019 at 01:54:57 PM EST
    in the run-up in Times Square.

    Almost everything was a little odd about that show (none / 0) (#160)
    by McBain on Sun May 26, 2019 at 01:52:04 PM EST
    which is probably why I enjoyed it. The short episodes, the music and even the casting.   It was good seeing Shea Whigham playing a good guy for a change.

    It's Hollywood. (none / 0) (#168)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sun May 26, 2019 at 07:28:05 PM EST
    And as you undoubtedly know from having worked in the business, the ability of Hollywood to sell its stories really depends in large part on the willingness of the audience to suspend their beliefs while viewing its products.

    Thus, Clark Gable is cast as a 40-year-old businessman in "It Happened in Naples" when the young and voluptuous Sophia Loren falls for him, even though he looked every inch of his 58 years. And remember when 38-year-old Angela Lansbury was cast in "The Manchurian Candidate" as Mrs. Icelin, the conniving mother of 37-year-old Laurence Harvey? Or how about casting 38-year-old Frank Sinatra as Maggio, the 20-year-old ne'er-do-well Army private / male hustler in "From Here to Eternity"?

    I've always found it amusing that audiences generally tolerate and accept May-December romances between older men and younger women, and Hollywood will even shower such stories with awards. (See "As Good As It Gets" with 60-something Jack Nicholson and 30-something Helen Hunt.)

    Yet the reverse does not tend to hold true for onscreen romances / trysts between older women and younger men, unless it's portrayed as something terribly sad and / or perverted. (See "Sunset Boulevard" with 50-year-old Gloria Swanson and 31-year-old William Holden, and "The Roman Spring of Mrs. Stone" with Vivien Leigh, 48, and Warren Beatty, 23.)

    At such times, I just laugh and recall Holden's final line to Swanson in "Sunset Boulevard":

    "Norma, you're a woman of 50, now grow up. There's nothing tragic about being 50 -- not unless you try to be 25."



    That really not it Donald (none / 0) (#169)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun May 26, 2019 at 07:30:31 PM EST
    I would have made the same criticism if a man had played an eager young employee who looked older than his father.

    ... actors being miscast by age. And my point was that it happens all the time in Hollywood. That's why I noted Angela Lansbury playing a character much older than she really was in "The Manchurian Candidate," and a middle-aged Frank Sinatra cast as Maggio in "From Here to Eternity" even though the character in James Jones' book was half Sinatra's age.

    More recently, a then-41-year-old Emma Thompson stretched the bounds of credulity as a 19-year-old ingenue in "Sense and Sensibility," and at the other end of the spectrum, Jennifer Lawrence barely looked a day older than her 20 years when she was cast as Christian Bale's estranged wife -- who had a 7-year-old son, no less -- in "American Hustle."

    None of that stopped Hollywood from showering praises on them for their work. All four received Oscar nominations for their work, although Sinatra was the only one who actually won. (Thompson did win the Oscar for best adapted screenplay, though, for translating Jane Austen's novel for the big screen.)

    Further, need I add that when John Travolta, Olivia Newton-John and Stockard Channing were cast in lead roles as high school students for the 1978 movie musical "Grease," they were actually 25, 31 and 33 years old, respectively? LOL! Star power won out over common sense in that film.



    And btw (none / 0) (#170)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun May 26, 2019 at 07:33:50 PM EST
    Suspension of disbelief was exactly my point.  They either made the odd choice of wanting it to be a noticeable part of the story, which I do not think they did, or it was a choice made for her so called star power as was suggested.  

    Which was probably pointed out since she is not coming back for season 2.


    RIP (none / 0) (#162)
    by desertswine on Sun May 26, 2019 at 03:59:43 PM EST
    Bart Starr.  Thanks for the thrills.

    The funniest thing about this (none / 0) (#167)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun May 26, 2019 at 07:12:41 PM EST
    Wow, A Lot Of People Googled How To 'Cancel HBO' After Game Of Thrones Finale

    Is that you would need to "google" how to cancel HBO

    This doc about the making of (none / 0) (#171)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun May 26, 2019 at 09:09:02 PM EST
    The final season really does help you understand what it means to do a movie for every episode.  Especially if you have any idea what really goes into making an effects movie.

    It helps you be a bit less hysterical about a Starbucks cup or a water bottle.


    RIP Bill Buckner (none / 0) (#174)
    by McBain on Mon May 27, 2019 at 03:05:07 PM EST
    Great baseball player who was treated horribly by fans and media.  He was 69.
    "After battling the disease of Lewy Body Dementia, Bill Buckner passed away early the morning of May 27th surrounded by his family," Buckner's wife, Jody, said in a statement to ESPN's Jeremy Schaap. "Bill fought with courage and grit as he did all things in life.

    However, the same can't be said for the rabid Boston Red Sox fans, who unfairly heaped mounds of abuse on him as the goat in the team's 1986 World Series loss to the New York Mets. Truth be told, there was more than enough blame to go around. In my opinion, managerial ineptitude in Game 6 hung that albatross around Buckner's neck. It should never have come down to that one play.

    If anyone's forgatten... (none / 0) (#179)
    by desertswine on Mon May 27, 2019 at 11:15:55 PM EST
    This is what Bucker said (none / 0) (#184)
    by McBain on Tue May 28, 2019 at 10:26:55 AM EST
    in the article I linked....
    "I really had to forgive, not the fans of Boston, per se, but I would have to say in my heart I had to forgive the media," Buckner told reporters then. "For what they put me and my family through. So, you know, I've done that and I'm over that."

    Even today, they still can't help but bring up a moment in his career that made him miserable.

    There's a good documentary about Buckner and Cubs fan Steve Bartman called Caching Hell.  


    Good News (none / 0) (#175)
    by ragebot on Mon May 27, 2019 at 07:50:51 PM EST
    If you find a schedule (none / 0) (#183)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue May 28, 2019 at 09:26:43 AM EST
    Post it please

    Will do (5.00 / 1) (#190)
    by ragebot on Wed May 29, 2019 at 08:53:33 AM EST
    If it is in the SE maybe we can meet face to face.

    I've been watching the HBO series (none / 0) (#178)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon May 27, 2019 at 10:34:26 PM EST

    It haven't been easy.  It's incredibly well made.  You will definitely be hearing about it at awards time.  But not easy to watch.  A real true life horror story.

    The odd thing is I watched week after week all the human suffering but this week it followed an "animal control" unit.  Who's job it was to go from village to village and kill all the pets, load them on trucks and dump them in big holes to be sealed in concrete.

    This week was without question the most disturbing and difficult to take.  I can't even say why.

    Does that make me a bad person?

    The Happiness of All Mankind (none / 0) (#180)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon May 27, 2019 at 11:26:02 PM EST

    `Chernobyl' Producers Understand If You Need to Skip a Few Brutal, but Essential Scenes

    While the tension in some areas of Pripyat is controlled by a stopwatch, "The Happiness of All Mankind" introduces another element to the "Chernobyl" story, following a group of liquidators patrolling the surrounding neighborhoods and villages. As these men follow through on their brutal task to eliminate all living creatures inside the evacuation zone, it's another side of the near-impossible, all-encompassing effort faced by those looking to ensure that the aftermath of Chernobyl did not leak out into the greater population.

    Whether it's the unassuming people of Pripyat going about their daily lives the morning after the accident or the small group of puppies that a pair of liquidators (Barry Keoghan and Fares Fares) encounter during a sweep of a rural building, it's difficult to see innocent lives become victims of a crisis that none of them chose to partake in. After multiple installments of dealing with the living cost of Chernobyl, Mazin understands if Episode 4 is one that might be too much for viewers at certain points.

    "Watching people watch it now for the first time, I'm struck. Sometimes I almost get a little paternal, like, `OK, if you don't want to watch this part, you don't have to' or `This is going to be a little hard now,'" Mazin said. "But almost to a person, they say this is a tough thing to watch, but it's important to watch it and that's the highest praise of all, I think."

    You do kind of get that feeling.


    OMG (none / 0) (#181)
    by Militarytracy on Tue May 28, 2019 at 12:13:13 AM EST
    I have been watching it, but not the latest episode. On the road.

    I also think it is very well done.

    I had not pondered what must have happened to everyone's pets. So much life lost.

    The pets were hopelessly innocent though. A person might have had an inkling to get away quickly from that strange light. All the animals though, no clue, and in yards and houses. They couldn't get away even if they did have a clue, and later were then "contaminated". Poor things

    The most amazing line for me so far, when the bureaucrat asked the scientist what affect the radiation was having on them and the scientist told him they would both be dead inside 5 yrs. And the helicopter that flew directly over the core, blasted with radiation, then hit the crane and crashed. Terrible, and really did happen.


    There is a lot of great (none / 0) (#182)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue May 28, 2019 at 09:16:47 AM EST
    Use of language.  Consciously or not of finding ways to say things without really saying them.  More on that later.

    Last night had two main subplots.  The one I mentioned and another of the task of clearing the roof of the fantastically contaminated graphite that was blown onto the roof in the explosion.  The stuff so toxic that we are shown in the first episode if you pick up a chunk with you hands even with thick heavy gloves your hand basically just melts instantly.  

    So there are three sections of the roof each with different toxicity levels caused by the amount of graphite.  They give them names Katya, Nina and Masha.  They must be cleared before they can make a containment structure.

    They say early on they have to do it with robots because we are told 2 minutes in full protection gear would cut your life expectancy in half 3 and you are dead in a couple of months.  More on that later.

    So they manage to clear the first two but when they get to Masha the largest area the robots won't work because the radiation is so bad it frys electronics.  After a few failed attempts they are shown sitting drinking which they do a lot talking about trying to find better robots which they know is impossible and one says in that creative use of language "we will have to use `biorobots'".  They all know what that means.  

    So after learning the limits of exposure time I mentioned above they decide on 90 seconds.  Each man will run out on the roof and pick up these chunks and toss them into the core for 90 seconds.

    Which is shown is some amazing single shot sequences.


    Screenrant (5.00 / 1) (#185)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue May 28, 2019 at 12:53:43 PM EST
    Recession? (none / 0) (#186)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue May 28, 2019 at 08:07:14 PM EST
    Morgan Stanley says economy is on `recession watch' as bond market flashes warning

    Many recent reports reflect April data, "which means it weakened before the re-escalation of trade tensions," Wilson continued. "In addition, numerous leading companies may be starting to throw in the towel on the second half rebound--something we have been expecting but we believe many investors are not."

    Wilson was one of the most bearish stock strategists last year, defending his initial S&P 500 call of 2,750 for year-end 2018 without adjusting it throughout the year. By the end of the year, his call was the most accurate of any strategist tracked by CNBC.

    This (none / 0) (#187)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue May 28, 2019 at 08:21:26 PM EST
    Companies ranging from manufacturers like Deere and Polaris Industries to computer chip maker Microchip and toolmaker Snap-On have all bemoaned the Trump administration's escalated trade war with China and have warned it could impact their business. The White House bumped the tariff rate on $200 billion of Chinese imports to 25% from 10% earlier this month, drawing a similar response against American goods from Beijing.

    While the number of companies explicitly airing their trade grievances remains comparatively small, they likely represent a larger number of American companies set for pain as bilateral tariffs threaten their bottom lines.

    Like I said (none / 0) (#188)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue May 28, 2019 at 08:28:06 PM EST
    in the other thread companies are already announcing layoffs starting in August. They are expecting 2nd quarter results to not be great and are going to start the layoffs.

    Mueller to speak today at 11AM (none / 0) (#189)
    by ragebot on Wed May 29, 2019 at 08:52:51 AM EST
    This could be really good (none / 0) (#192)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed May 29, 2019 at 09:17:00 AM EST
    Or really bad

    Hard to imagine it not being one or the other.  He can start an investigation in earnest or kill one.


    He is still a DOJ employee (none / 0) (#193)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed May 29, 2019 at 09:19:06 AM EST
    That's not good.

    I have a bad feeling (none / 0) (#194)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed May 29, 2019 at 09:29:46 AM EST
    About this

    I (none / 0) (#196)
    by FlJoe on Wed May 29, 2019 at 09:46:28 AM EST
    also have a feeling of dread.

    I believe we were wrong (none / 0) (#197)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed May 29, 2019 at 09:57:36 AM EST
    This is sounding very very good

    I go (none / 0) (#195)
    by KeysDan on Wed May 29, 2019 at 09:34:09 AM EST
    with bad.  My guess is his explanation why he does not want to testify in open hearings because politics.  Must be a lot of pressure on Mueller to say something. Maybe even shamed by the courage of a right winger who puts country ahead of party---Justin Amash.  

    I do not think his (none / 0) (#198)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed May 29, 2019 at 10:09:09 AM EST
    Statement that if I testify I will basically read the report is bad news.   I have been saying I don't really see a huge need for him or McGahn or others to testify publicly

    That everything they need to know is in the report in sworn testimony in black and white.

    He is basically saying congress do your f'ing job.  No I could not say he did not commit a crime and no I could not indict him.

    All contradicts everything Trump,Barr, Rudy and others have been saying.


    Could not have been more clear (none / 0) (#199)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed May 29, 2019 at 10:15:23 AM EST
    In spite of what Barr explicitly said that it was absolutely justice department policy that prevented him from indicting.

    It was said this was not "at all" about the new Wolff book that says there was a Trump indictment created.

    Not sure about that.


    Sometimes good to have (none / 0) (#200)
    by KeysDan on Wed May 29, 2019 at 11:04:23 AM EST
    low expectations and not be disappointed.  Mueller's presentation, while not covering any territory not in the Report, underscores how important it is to have the information televised.  Even if Mueller just comes and reads his Report at an opening hearing, it will be powerful and rekindle the investigation.

    Mueller, in his little presentation, made it glaringly apparent that there was no exoneration, no statement of no collusion,  and that there was an interaction between Vol I  (insufficient evidence to charge broader conspiracy) and Vol II (because of obstruction and lying).

     And Mueller's body language, including his observable nervousness, revealed the misrepresentation of the report by Barr (sugar coated by his applause for making the Report, LARGELY, available to the public.

    And, the nervousness, may have been generated by his, in the face of no indictment of a sitting president for crimes, referred to the other remedy: the Constitutional process.  A referral to Congress for consideration of impeachment.


    I think it's notable (5.00 / 1) (#201)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed May 29, 2019 at 11:08:20 AM EST
    Barr was not there.

    This is going to kick impeachment talk into overdrive.


    Leon Redbone ... (none / 0) (#203)
    by desertswine on Thu May 30, 2019 at 02:28:10 PM EST
    Geez, hadn't thought about that cat (none / 0) (#204)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Thu May 30, 2019 at 02:48:59 PM EST
    for year. RIP Mr. Redbone.

    years (none / 0) (#205)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Thu May 30, 2019 at 02:50:47 PM EST