Trump Ordered to Turn Over Tax Returns

A federal judge in New York has ordered Donald Trump to turn over his tax returns to DA Cyrus Vance, rejecting Trump's argument that he is immune from criminal investigations.

The 75 page opinion is here

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    This should be interesting. (none / 0) (#1)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Mon Oct 07, 2019 at 03:13:50 PM EST

    In federal judge Victor Marreo's (none / 0) (#2)
    by KeysDan on Mon Oct 07, 2019 at 04:59:29 PM EST
    ruling dismissing the lawsuit filed by Trump seeking to block a grand jury subpoena obtained by the Manhattan District Attorney, the judge found the Trump challenge to be a "categorical and limitless assertion of presidential immunity."

    The judge vigorously shook that big old DOJ/OLC tree that a sitting president cannot be indicted or prosecuted leaving a leafless little sapling. The DOJ/OLC memo is not "backed up by the authority or the courts" and in this case, is "not warranted."

    Indeed, the judge noted that there is not one DOJ/OLC memo, but three.  The first two were crafted in regard to the criminal case of Vice President Spiro Agnew, referring to criminal procedure in one case, and criminal procedure in another. The third, was a later update, and specifically referred to indictment/prosecution.

    "A major problem with constructing a categorical rule founded upon hypothesizing and extrapolating from an abstract general proposition disembodied from an actual set of facts, is that the entire theoretical structure could collapse when it encounters a real-world application that shakes the underpinnings of the unqualified doctrine.  

    to propose as a blanket constitutional principle that a President cannot be subjected to the criminal process presupposes a faulty premise.  Implicit in that pronouncement is the assumption that every crime and every stage of every criminal proceeding, a any time and forum, whether involving only one or many other offenders --is just like every other instance of its kind.  The absolute proposition also presumes uniformity of consequences."  This case is about compliance with a grand jury subpoena.

    Hope the Circuit Court agrees with Judge Marrero's incisive analysis, and that the Supreme Court follows suit.

    Note: (none / 0) (#3)
    by KeysDan on Mon Oct 07, 2019 at 05:02:43 PM EST
    should read: Paragraph 3, lines 3 and 4:  ..criminal procedure in one case, and criminal process in another.  

    NPR (none / 0) (#4)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Oct 07, 2019 at 05:23:46 PM EST
    What is in those tax returns (none / 0) (#5)
    by Chuck0 on Mon Oct 07, 2019 at 06:11:23 PM EST
    that orange jesus is trying so hard to conceal?

    The appeals court (none / 0) (#6)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Oct 08, 2019 at 07:02:43 AM EST
    Is supposed to be fast tracking this with a decision likely this month

    Most seem to expect them to uphold the decision and for the SC to leave it.