Rudy's Rendevouz in Vienna

So Rudy told an Atlantic reporter he couldn't meet her because he was flying to Vienna -- this is one day after the indicted Giuliani associates tried to leave the U.S. but got arrested instead. They had one way tickets to Vienna.

Trump of course says he doesn't know the indicted pair. When shown pictures of him with them and Rudy, he says so what? I have pictures of me with everyone. [More...]

Trump is also ramping it up a notch on the campaign trail. In Minnesota, he was outdone only by his son Eric, who led the crowd in a "Lock him up" chant -- saying it's time to move from Hillary to Biden.

I can't decide whether Trump and his children have gone from lame to insane or are just so spectacularly tone deaf they do stupid things.

Encouraging supporters to chant "lock him up" is just taunting the G-ds of Fate. In a heartbeat, any of the Trumnp children who work for Trump International or for Trump in the White House, or who are assiting with his reelction campaign, could be frog-marched on camera to the nearest federal courthouse.

As for Rudy, he reportedly told a journalist he isn't worried at all that the two Russians will flip on him. Really? And there are reports Rudy's finances are under investigation. Is he just as sure former wife Judy with whom he had a very bitter divorce won't be the first to line up and sell him out?

Place your bets: Who will be left laughing when Donald Trump's time in the White House is up? Trump and his children and those doing his dirty work like Rudy, or everyone else in the world?

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    Third (5.00 / 1) (#3)
    by FlJoe on Fri Oct 11, 2019 at 10:40:32 AM EST
    rate bromance, low rent rendezvous.

    Listening to Nancy (5.00 / 4) (#20)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Oct 17, 2019 at 10:17:41 AM EST
    Describe the meeting it totally sounded to me like she intentionally baited him.

    As in, this guy is spinning on the edge.  Let's give him a little push.

    She hit him with all the Russia stuff.  She was very clear about that.  She said, answering the question what she was saying in that now iconic pic, she was saying "All Roads Lead to Putin with YOU"

    Of course he exploded.

    Just speculation.  If true, I love you Nancy.  Good job.

    Randy Rainbow (5.00 / 1) (#24)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Oct 17, 2019 at 05:14:51 PM EST
    DC Appeals court (none / 0) (#1)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Oct 11, 2019 at 09:06:10 AM EST
    Just ruled in favor of the dems and their subpoena for Trump financial records.

    Only full appeals court or the SC

    This seems big.

    "Lock him up" (none / 0) (#2)
    by Repack Rider on Fri Oct 11, 2019 at 10:38:21 AM EST
    It's ironic that by publicly accusing individuals of crimes, Trump has given them a get out of jail free card. In the extremely unlikely event anyone he names is ever brought to trial, they will walk on the basis of a corrupted the jury pool. Richard Nixon almost let Charlie Manson walk by referring to his "guilt" before the court established it.

    A swan song for Rudy (none / 0) (#4)
    by hilts on Fri Oct 11, 2019 at 09:22:11 PM EST
    Rudie Can't Fail - The Clash

    SNL's "Giuliani & Associates": (none / 0) (#5)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Mon Oct 14, 2019 at 07:34:18 PM EST
    "At Giuliani & Associates, we may not have passed the bar, but we've definitely lowered it."

    Fifty years ago (none / 0) (#8)
    by Repack Rider on Mon Oct 14, 2019 at 11:57:59 PM EST
    ...Rudy passed the bar.

    He never made that mistake again.


    Wow Bolton speaks (none / 0) (#6)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Oct 14, 2019 at 10:07:11 PM EST

    Mr. Bolton instructed Fiona Hill, the senior director for Russian and Eurasian affairs, to notify the chief lawyer for the National Security Council that Mr. Giuliani was working with Mick Mulvaney, the acting White House chief of staff, on a rogue operation with legal implications, Ms. Hill told the investigators, according to two people familiar with her closed-door testimony.

    "I am not part of whatever drug deal Rudy and Mulvaney are cooking up," Mr. Bolton, a Yale-trained lawyer, told Ms. Hill to tell White House lawyers, according to the testimony


    I hope this doesn't require me (5.00 / 5) (#7)
    by Peter G on Mon Oct 14, 2019 at 10:42:43 PM EST
    to modify my longstanding and very low opinion of Bolton.

    Not really! But Republicans have this tendency ... (5.00 / 3) (#9)
    by Erehwon on Tue Oct 15, 2019 at 07:22:32 AM EST
    To perpetually place lower and lower people next to very low people like Bolton. It's like that children's riddle: how do you make a stick longer without touching it? Just place a shorter stick next to it!

    Yeah (5.00 / 4) (#10)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Oct 15, 2019 at 07:36:39 AM EST
    It's an interesting political object lesson.

    We see the difference between a guy who literally represents the polar opposite of every political position you can possibly imagine and is the poster boy fir everything we hate looking pretty good next to these characters.  Showing clearly the difference between policy and policy makers we hate and a bunch of criminal morons who have no political beliefs

    Also can't wait to hear Hannity and Tucker describing Bolton as the Deep State.


    In other words (5.00 / 2) (#12)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Oct 15, 2019 at 07:55:38 AM EST
    The difference between the Bushs and the Trumps.

    I am juggling (5.00 / 2) (#14)
    by KeysDan on Tue Oct 15, 2019 at 10:35:02 AM EST
    Bolton's penchant to have never seen a country he did not want to bomb, with his well-honed bureaucratic survival skills.  I look forward to buying his forthcoming book as soon as it makes it to the dollar bin of a used book store.    I suspect that book will be quite revelatory since I have long believed his treasured mustachio houses a device for surreptitious recordings.

    Juggling (none / 0) (#15)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Oct 15, 2019 at 11:33:34 AM EST
    I get it

    But John f'ing H-Bomb Bolton is the adult in the room.



    From Kevin Drum at Mother Jones: (5.00 / 2) (#18)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Tue Oct 15, 2019 at 03:30:30 PM EST
    "There are two important things to take away from this. First, as much as we on the left dislike Bolton, he is, in fact, a professional diplomat of longstanding and a very competent player in interagency politics. He also plans to continue his career long beyond Trump's presidency.

    "Second, he's not a Trump man. His joke about the 'drug deal' shows his disdain for the Trump inner circle, who he considers little better than dilettantes looking for a big score."

    I share your contempt for John Bolton's worldview, Peter. But there's also no denying that per recent revelations, he viewed Rudy Giuliani's most totally excellent Ukraine adventure with justifiable alarm, and correctly foresaw its rich potential to result in devastating legal and political consequences for the Trump administration if it blew up. Which, of course, it has.

    Bolton sounded the alarm, and it's certainly not his fault that nobody inside the Trump clown car paid any attention. Now, I think Adam Schiff & Co. need to learn the real reason why Bolton was fired by Trump this past September 10.



    I think we should start a dead pool (none / 0) (#11)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Oct 15, 2019 at 07:47:43 AM EST
    These guys have, as lawyers say, divergent interests.  They are going to start turning on each other.  

    A betting pool on who goes first.  Rudy being squarely in the barrel will probably be first.  Imagine Cheeto and Rudy turning on each other.  And smile.

    But I put Pence way up top.  


    Watch (none / 0) (#13)
    by FlJoe on Tue Oct 15, 2019 at 08:42:13 AM EST
    Pompeo and Pence looking to CYA while trying to keep their power.

    Of course (none / 0) (#16)
    by KeysDan on Tue Oct 15, 2019 at 11:49:50 AM EST

    Strange (5.00 / 1) (#17)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Oct 15, 2019 at 11:54:44 AM EST
    Bedfellows in my experience are the memorable ones .

    Simply Rudy, Part MMCMLVII: (none / 0) (#19)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Tue Oct 15, 2019 at 08:05:16 PM EST
    "Rudy Giuliani repeatedly argued to Trump in 2017 that the U.S. government should eject Fethullah Gulen from the country, multiple former administration officials familiar with the discussions said."

    And now Rudy's tied to into Gen. Mike Flynn's hapless efforts as an undeclared foreign agent for Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan.


    My favorite (none / 0) (#21)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Oct 17, 2019 at 10:25:18 AM EST
    "Fire the writers" story (after Lev and Igor) was this quote form Lindsey.

    Graham argued that if Obama were to have made this same decision, Republicans would be on full attack.
    "I can imagine if Obama said that what Republicans would be saying now," Graham said. "So I'm going to say it with Trump, that is just unfair dangerous. And quite frankly, (it) is just horrible for us to abandon the Kurds. I would say that if Obama did it."

    Yeah sweetie.  
    Yeah that's exactly what you would say if Obama did it.

    Graham (none / 0) (#22)
    by Ga6thDem on Thu Oct 17, 2019 at 04:42:48 PM EST
    looks absolutely horrible when I have seen clips of him on TV lately.

    DO OVER (none / 0) (#23)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Oct 17, 2019 at 04:55:14 PM EST
    Will Mulvaney (none / 0) (#25)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Oct 18, 2019 at 08:31:27 AM EST
    Be excreted with the Friday news dump?

    Rick Perry says (none / 0) (#26)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Oct 18, 2019 at 10:51:55 AM EST
    He wants to spend more time with his wife and his dog.

    No, apparently, he really said that.


    And, (none / 0) (#27)
    by KeysDan on Fri Oct 18, 2019 at 03:16:16 PM EST
    not necessarily in that order.   I hope, for the wife's sake..

    Dmitri Firtash : Rudy's friend in Vienna (none / 0) (#28)
    by BGinCA on Fri Oct 18, 2019 at 04:22:56 PM EST

    Spoke to my evangelical brother a bit (none / 0) (#29)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Oct 19, 2019 at 10:09:24 AM EST
    Yesterday.  We have not spoken much because he has been a tireless shameless MAGA.  We (I) agreed to disagree.  Miles apart.
    The thing is he seems to be really "troubled" by this Doral thing.

    Wait, what?  kids in cages are ok but this is a problem?

    But I zipped it.  I think we are going to have to treat these people like addicts or cult members waking up.

    Resist saying WTF took you three years and just encourage them.

    Along these lines, (none / 0) (#31)
    by KeysDan on Sat Oct 19, 2019 at 12:46:33 PM EST
    It is interesting to note the Never-Trump Republicans.  Among features: they would like to pick the Democratic candidate--some nice Centrist.  Better, center right;  Brett Stephens, the former WSJ editorial writer and now NYT op ed columnist has laid out the case for impeachment and removal after being "skeptical" (ie opposed) before.  Because Mulvaney.  But he suggests a censure-like resolution would be better because it would force Republicans to vote in favor.  Guess a soft landing would be good.  On Maher's show, a VP of the American Enterprise Institute claimed to be a never Trump, but given the choice of Trump or Warren she would vote for neither.  Sam Siein, another panelist, called her out as not really a never Trumper-- just sort of.

    And, David Brooks wrestled with the dilemma of Trump, the
    corrupt, ignorant Russian asset/agent, and Elizabeth Warren who threatens to assure health care for all, finally came down on the side of Warren.  With reluctance, but with confidence that her plans could be thwarted.


    Denazification (none / 0) (#32)
    by Ga6thDem on Sat Oct 19, 2019 at 07:19:59 PM EST
    Is a likely model to follow. They really have to come to the conclusion themselves and yes staying nothing is probably best.

    War Crimes (none / 0) (#30)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Oct 19, 2019 at 10:37:46 AM EST