Trump's Border Speech

Here is the text of Donald Trump's prime time border speech to the nation.

Repeating anything Donald Trump says just spreads his fear-mongering agenda and keeps it alive. I'm done with that. Just as I'm done with hearing his voice (the mute button is there for a reason).

Yes, it's important to read the legal documents (executive orders, proclamations and the like) he signs but it is absolutely a waste of time to read or listen to what he says or writes about them. He doesn't have the attention span to read the fine print and probably can only understand the Cliff Notes version.

Donald Trump doesn't even understand the government shutdown. I have no interest in watching a speech written by staffers who are pulling the strings of the puppet with a desk in the Oval office who acts like he was elected King.

If America is in a crisis, it's because of Donald Trump -- not refugees and asylum seekers or drug traffickers at and below the southern border.

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    Migrants and gang members (5.00 / 4) (#8)
    by fishcamp on Thu Jan 10, 2019 at 11:41:16 AM EST
    do not bring drugs across the border, unless they put something in their pockets.  Not much of a load there.  The drugs come through the normal border crossings in eighteen wheeler tractor trailers like they always have, or in containers at seaports.  His stupid border wall is not going to slow down drugs or even people coming into this country.  Trump's mind is walled up.

    Yes (none / 0) (#17)
    by MKS on Thu Jan 10, 2019 at 07:38:15 PM EST
    As AOC said, they come with only the shirts on their backs.  Not toting kilos of opium.

    After Cheeto solves the funding (5.00 / 2) (#11)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jan 10, 2019 at 05:13:58 PM EST
    He's going to have a whole new problem

    As Trump visits border, Texas landowners prepare wall fight

    The (5.00 / 2) (#12)
    by FlJoe on Thu Jan 10, 2019 at 05:49:24 PM EST
    thought of jackbooted thugs seizing the land of some Cliven Bundy types on behalf of the mad king they voted for is sweet.

    This is going to be quite a show (5.00 / 1) (#13)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jan 10, 2019 at 06:28:13 PM EST
    They are going to be nostalgic for Janet Reno.

    In other news you can't make up -

    1958 TV Show Had Conman `Trump' Selling Mystical `Wall' To Hysterical Townspeople

    The writer and animator Alex Hirsch on Thursday flagged a quirk of television history with an odd connection to present-day politics: In 1958, CBS aired an episode of the series "Trackdown" called "The End of the World," in which a confidence man named Trump attempts to sell a western town a "wall" -- in the form of supposedly mystical parasols -- to protect them from the fake threat of a meteor shower.

    Snopes did the fact-checking legwork: In the episode, "Dr. Walter Trump, DU MC SSR" -- or "Doctor of the Universe, Master of Cometry, Student of Stellar Reactions" -- whips a western town into a frenzy by tricking its residents into believing they'll be wiped out by a meteor shower before the day is done.

    As protection, he sells parasols with drawn-on mystical symbols, calling them a "wall" that can magically repel danger.

    Eventually -- despite Trump's threat of a lawsuit -- the show's protagonist, Texas Ranger Hoby Gilman, reveals that Trump is a fraud who's in cahoots with the town's sheriff, and midnight passes without any meteor-related deaths. Trump ends up dead, shot by the sheriff in an attempt to cover up the scheme.

    Another (none / 0) (#15)
    by FlJoe on Thu Jan 10, 2019 at 07:31:19 PM EST
    signpost were on the road to the twilight zone.

    That was unbelievable (none / 0) (#16)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jan 10, 2019 at 07:34:33 PM EST
    The dialog could be SNL

    Better and better (none / 0) (#18)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jan 11, 2019 at 07:59:06 AM EST
    From a conservative site

    if Ms. Cavazos doesn't want to negotiate a deal to have the wall on her property, let's pull the line back until we reach a piece of land that can be made available and build it there. In other words, all of the property owners along the border who don't wish to support protecting our border can be put on the other side of the wall.

    Can you imagine (5.00 / 1) (#39)
    by Zorba on Sat Jan 12, 2019 at 07:35:48 AM EST
    What these conservatives would have done if Obama had proposed such a seizure and forced sale of private property?

    They would have been screaming bloody murder about "private property rights."


    Finally (none / 0) (#19)
    by FlJoe on Fri Jan 11, 2019 at 08:19:18 AM EST
    the Jade Helm operation comes to fruition!

    Remember when Cards Against Humanity (none / 0) (#20)
    by Militarytracy on Fri Jan 11, 2019 at 09:15:34 AM EST
    Bought property on the border and then sold ownership off to thousands of people because each owner will have to be litigated seperately? And to think of the disrespect I've recently shown them.

    Walls work because wheels work???? (5.00 / 1) (#14)
    by Chuck0 on Thu Jan 10, 2019 at 07:14:07 PM EST
    How does this guy remember to breathe? How did someone this stupid live past puberty?

    And then there are flat tires (none / 0) (#21)
    by Militarytracy on Fri Jan 11, 2019 at 09:31:32 AM EST

    In case you wondered (5.00 / 2) (#30)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jan 11, 2019 at 07:18:35 PM EST
    Weird sourcing (5.00 / 1) (#31)
    by FlJoe on Fri Jan 11, 2019 at 07:48:10 PM EST
    But Trump's allies say the president is reluctant to hand Democrats a "win" by reopening the government after he's invoked emergency powers.

    This is more standard

    "He could say, `Look, I'm going to get what I want and then I'm still going to screw you,'" a former White House official told POLITICO.
    "It's making Democrats feel pain instead of declaring a national emergency, opening the government up, and making it so they don't have to give anything," the former official added.
     I would bet good money that ex-officials name rhymes with Heave Cannon.


    This is pretty amazing (none / 0) (#1)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Jan 09, 2019 at 07:51:33 AM EST

    Privately, Mr. Trump dismissed his own new strategy as pointless. In an off-the-record lunch with television anchors hours before the address, he made clear in blunt terms that he was not inclined to give the speech or go to Texas, but was talked into it by advisers, according to two people briefed on the discussion who asked not to be identified sharing details.

    "It's not going to change a damn thing, but I'm still doing it," Mr. Trump said of the trip to the border, according to one of the people, who was in the room. The border trip was just a photo opportunity, he said. "But," he added, gesturing at his communications aides, Bill Shine, Sarah Huckabee Sanders and Kellyanne Conway, "these people behind you say it's worth it."

    Looks like he wants an emergency and it was just window dressing.

    Chuck (Bothsiderism) Todd, (none / 0) (#2)
    by KeysDan on Wed Jan 09, 2019 at 12:58:10 PM EST
    in an interview with Chris Hayes, reported this off-the-record conversation stating he wanted to be careful not to divulge any grand confidences; however, he did, uncustomarily, if not astonishingly, levy criticism on Trump and his border boondoggle.  

    But, I wondered at the time why the media goes along with an off-the-record briefing, other than, perhaps, some real national security matter, such as the reason for requesting a delay in reporting on military plans.

     And, of course, having had this admission by Trump that it was just for propaganda purposes, the networks went ahead anyhow with providing air time.   Collusion, yes collusion, you're the collusion...air time for ratings.  Never mind that Trump used the occasion of an oval office speech as a campaign fundraiser, with solicitations not unlike that for reverse mortgages, and the tone of.. if you act now!

    This having been said, it does not appear that this helped him much, despite trying on his presidential demeanor, one he mockingly demonstrated during his earlier MAGA rallies, although, there was not so much sniffing then.

     Nothing new, same old lies, other than the new one about yielding to Democrats by changing concrete to steel in the barrier (wall was not mentioned, per se). He has not explained his national emergency and how a "wall" that would take 10 to 20 years to build will address those rapists and murderers crossing the Rio Grande in January 2019.  An emergency so dire that the government must shut down for months or years.


    The interesting thing (5.00 / 2) (#4)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Jan 09, 2019 at 06:24:16 PM EST
    About this "national emergency" thing is the door it seems to open for another president to do the same thing over, say, climate change or healthcare.

    I think smart republicans understand this.


    Yes, (5.00 / 2) (#10)
    by KeysDan on Thu Jan 10, 2019 at 03:19:24 PM EST
    and the longer Trump.waits to declare his national emergency and the more apparent its threat is as a means of bludgeoning his opponents into yielding to his policy preference, the weaker the sustainability of his national emergency argument.  And, too, the re-deployment of military troops from the border would suggest a lessening rather than an increasing need to break the glass and call 911.

    too bad I'm not a betting person. (none / 0) (#3)
    by leap on Wed Jan 09, 2019 at 02:56:34 PM EST
    This would have been a no-brainer bet.

    I love that in the Donald Dittoheads recounting (none / 0) (#5)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jan 10, 2019 at 09:22:11 AM EST
    Of how "polite" Trump was after passing out M&Ms that he said..

    "Ok Nancy, if we blah blah blah...."

    I would love to hear them whine if she walked into a room and said..

    "Ok, Donald....."

    These people are such an embarrassment.

    Bye-bye. (none / 0) (#6)
    by KeysDan on Thu Jan 10, 2019 at 10:06:58 AM EST
    Gail Collins, NYT. January 10 Op Ed, writes: "OK, this one is pretty clear. The meeting was was brief.  After only about 30 minutes , he who says "bye-bye" is the culprit."  Although, Trump did a neat trick of putting himself in a corner in the Oval Office.  The art of the deal....give out candy instead of sweet talking.

    I wonder if anyone (none / 0) (#7)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jan 10, 2019 at 11:07:47 AM EST
    Has considered starting a go-fund-me to create a fund to help govt employees?

    How do you drive a moron crazy? (none / 0) (#9)
    by Chuck0 on Thu Jan 10, 2019 at 02:37:56 PM EST
    Put him in an oval room and tell him to pee in the corner.

    So now Trump is backing away from (none / 0) (#22)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jan 11, 2019 at 04:02:46 PM EST
    An emergency declaration.  

    This is bad.  He is not rational.  You can't negotiate with a lunatic.  I wonder if they should not just give him his 5billion and get the government running again.

    Seems to me if they frame it right they could do it and still win.  And from the comments above that would be far from the end of the problems with the wall.

    Honestly at this point nothing is being accomplished but inflicting pain on thousands of families.  

    And Trump could care less.  That's what makes this different from ant time before.  Be doesn't give a rat's butt for the pain it's causing.

    For him it's just a great distraction from all the legal problems.

    It's a pickle

    I totally get how dangerous it would be to let him win.  But when you wrestle with a pig you get dirty and the pig enjoys it.

    No (5.00 / 4) (#23)
    by FlJoe on Fri Jan 11, 2019 at 06:27:21 PM EST
    no, no, no and again no.

    Just because you can't negotiate with a lunatic means you should give into him.

    IMO the Democrats are accomplishing plenty. The power of the purse is specifically assigned to Congress for a good reason, abdicating that power in this manner would be a constitutional disaster.

    Giving in would only embolden him and his base and solidify the position of his enablers in Congress.

    Sure there would be relief for the current victims, but who would be next? The debt limit fight comes up soon.

    IMO this IS the hill to fight on.

    PS. The pig only enjoys it until he becomes bacon. Fire up the grill!


    Probably right (5.00 / 3) (#25)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jan 11, 2019 at 06:39:40 PM EST
    Just seeing if anyone was awake

    Yes (none / 0) (#32)
    by MKS on Fri Jan 11, 2019 at 07:54:32 PM EST
    Dems have the high ground in this fight.   Trump said it was his shutdown.   The public does want a wall.   The Republicans are taking on water.

    If the Dems give up here and try to fight on the debt limit, they would be in a worse position.

    The Dems do not need to convince Trump, just the GOPers in the Senate.   When a veto proof majority is hit, then Trump will cave.``

    Trump caved on Syria an so he will here too.

    Dems cannot vote for an emblem or monument to racism, ignorance and bigotry.


    I agree. (none / 0) (#33)
    by Chuck0 on Fri Jan 11, 2019 at 08:03:15 PM EST
    Democrats should not cave. This has been my concern with Schumer. He has proven himself to be spineless time and again. I have faith Mrs. Pelosi will stand her ground. I think she has no choice. Otherwise her Speakership would be over as soon as it started.

    This is Gettysburg (5.00 / 2) (#34)
    by MKS on Fri Jan 11, 2019 at 08:59:47 PM EST
    The Dems have to hold the line against the bigots and racists.

    I guess we have to get ready (5.00 / 1) (#38)
    by jmacWA on Sat Jan 12, 2019 at 05:34:45 AM EST
    for Bigot's charge

    Pelosi needs (none / 0) (#35)
    by MKS on Fri Jan 11, 2019 at 09:30:26 PM EST
    to be Chamberlain at Little Round Top.

    The reason Trump (none / 0) (#36)
    by MKS on Fri Jan 11, 2019 at 09:38:51 PM EST
    insists on a a wall is because it symbolizes the racist attempt to make America White Again.

      If it were truly about border security, then the wall would not be so important.

    So, Trump is insisting that The Democrats agree to erect a monument to white racism.   This we cannot ever do.   In spite of all the pain, this we cannot do.


    Word of the day.. (none / 0) (#37)
    by desertswine on Fri Jan 11, 2019 at 09:49:00 PM EST
    kakistocracy (ˌkækɪˈstɒkrəsɪ)
    n, pl -cies
    a government by the least able or worst citizens

    The Wall is (none / 0) (#40)
    by MKS on Sun Jan 13, 2019 at 11:34:57 AM EST
    like the Confederate Battle Flag--either you hoist it or bring it down.  There is no compromise.

    As the Great Communicator said (5.00 / 1) (#41)
    by Peter G on Sun Jan 13, 2019 at 01:07:02 PM EST
    Tear Down that Wall!

    With the snoarting adderall revelation/thang (none / 0) (#24)
    by Militarytracy on Fri Jan 11, 2019 at 06:39:07 PM EST
    Shouldn't we just consider Trump a tweaker and incapable of higher brain functions because he fried himself long ago?

    I do wonder (5.00 / 1) (#26)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jan 11, 2019 at 06:45:10 PM EST
    How many saying fight fight fight have ever wondered where their next meal was coming from.

    Or how they were going to feed their children.

    Or faced destruction of their credit etc etc

    Just read 78% of people live from paycheck to paycheck

    This is something that does not exist in Trump world.  Even if he could understand he wouldn't give a sh!t

    All that said, letting him win would be bad


    I actually think (5.00 / 1) (#27)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jan 11, 2019 at 06:52:52 PM EST
    They should just walk off the job.  

    Oh yeah? (none / 0) (#28)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jan 11, 2019 at 06:55:45 PM EST
    The Atlantic

    The law prohibits public employees from striking, forcing them into what one union leader called "involuntary servitude" during the government shutdown.

    You pass a law saying it's "necessary" I work?  Fine pass another saying it's necessary to pay me or F off.


    I (none / 0) (#29)
    by FlJoe on Fri Jan 11, 2019 at 07:03:35 PM EST
    would say most of tRump's opponents have a good deal of empathy for the working class many of having lived that life at some time.

    Democrats should boycott (none / 0) (#42)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Jan 16, 2019 at 10:39:22 AM EST
    The State of the Union unless the government is opened.

    I'm loving Nancy so much (none / 0) (#43)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Jan 16, 2019 at 11:03:44 AM EST
    Right now.

    What (5.00 / 1) (#44)
    by FlJoe on Thu Jan 17, 2019 at 05:50:21 AM EST
    a tag team
    "The president of the United States needs an invitation, and today House Speaker Nancy Pelosi told the president because of the government shutdown that he created, she cannot extend an invitation to him to deliver his State of the Union address in the House of Representatives to a joint session of Congress," O'Donnell noted.

    "And Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez put the blame for the shutdown right where it belongs as of now, and that is in the United States Senate," he continued. "And she did that by exercising her floor privileges and walking right in to the United States Senate chamber to deliver a letter to Mitch McConnell -- telling him to bring the government funding bills that have already passed the House of Representatives to a vote in the United States Senate, where those bills would pass if Mitch McConnell would simply allow a vote."

    Where's (none / 0) (#45)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jan 17, 2019 at 07:01:35 AM EST
    The next time an idiot bobble head (none / 0) (#46)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jan 17, 2019 at 09:40:49 AM EST
    Like HALLEY JACKSON asks a democrat if they are taking a paycheck during the shutdown the answer should be

    "Yeah.  I am.  Are you?  You are making a helluva lot more off the shut down than me? If you are so GD high and mighty and pure as the driven fu@king snow maybe YOU should donate YOUR paycheck to charity"

    I would be such a terrible politician.

    Yeah. I saw that. (none / 0) (#47)
    by Chuck0 on Thu Jan 17, 2019 at 11:41:16 AM EST
    I thought that was low. Putting Durbin on the spot, asking if he was going to give his paycheck to charity. I work for a defense contractor. I'm getting paid. And no, I'm not giving my paycheck to charity. I have a mortgage and two car payments.

    Just read on ABC News (none / 0) (#48)
    by fishcamp on Fri Jan 18, 2019 at 12:00:39 PM EST
    that 376 asylum seekers dug seven little tunnels and crossed under an older section of the border wall, in Arizona, and voluntarily turned themselves in.  So much for Trump's wall.  Trump the chump.

    If they're really concerned about drugs (none / 0) (#49)
    by jondee on Fri Jan 18, 2019 at 12:28:20 PM EST
    "pouring into" the U.S, maybe it's time to start doing an in-depth examination of all the factors feeding into the emotional pressure cooker in this country that leads millions of people to feel the need to self-medicate in the first place.

    The traditional GOP anodynes of more Jee-zus and a return to the 19th century economy are the deadest of dead-ends, but that's pretty much their entire playbook in a nutshell. Oh, and they're "un-pc", we can't forget that.

    Right now it's as if the country opted to put neanderthal man with his stone tools in charge of the particle accelerator. More evidence that the religion-opioid cocktail impedes one's critical thinking and decision making abilities.