Trump to Announce Temporary Deal on Shutdown

Donald Trump is making an a announcement that he has reached a deal to re-open the government for three weeks with border wall funding put to the side.

Press conference live here.

He claims Democrats agree a border wall is a necessary part of a security plan. Really?


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    The "democrats" (5.00 / 2) (#3)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jan 25, 2019 at 02:39:03 PM EST
    Are making it clear they agreed no such thing

    The first question (5.00 / 1) (#4)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jan 25, 2019 at 02:50:06 PM EST
    Is a stupid gotcha about power plays.

    Nancy totally takes the high road and says stop being azzhole.  The govt is open

    What a class act she is.

    Pizzagate man sez (5.00 / 1) (#7)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jan 25, 2019 at 03:07:48 PM EST
    it's over for him

    Ann Coulter

     Good news for George Herbert Walker Bush: As of today, he is no longer the biggest wimp ever to serve as President of the United States

    If he were (none / 0) (#8)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Jan 25, 2019 at 03:19:53 PM EST
    smart which we all know he isn't he would have just signed the bill that Nancy passed first off. What a CF. McConnell is part of the problem too. Instead of "protecting" his senators for 2020 he just made life a whole lot worse for them. Paul Ryan if he was in on this screwed the GOP over on his way out too. Talk about people walking out and throwing a bomb behind them while they are.

    Trump is a (5.00 / 1) (#24)
    by KeysDan on Sat Jan 26, 2019 at 11:30:29 AM EST
    big loser.  He will find that his Roy Cohn tutelage has its limits.  His operational mainstay of intimidation and bullying has been irredeemably blown accompanied by people being unafraid of him.  Damage to his reputation as being someone to fear may be optically fatal.  Of course, he will try to come back swinging, particularly to show-up Speaker Pelosi, maybe by announcing his emergency wall-building, farmer/rancher land confiscating powers at the SOTU.  And, with Speaker Pelosi right behind him, it would be better than a tweet response to lock-up Hillary.  No longer a bully, just a mess.

    11 billion and counting (5.00 / 1) (#28)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jan 29, 2019 at 09:24:26 AM EST
    Yeah! Let's do it again!

    Government shutdown costs the economy $11 billion, significantly dings Q1 GDP growth, CBO estimates

    As a side note I am totally sick of hearing Trump supporters whine about how "unfair" it is they are being "hurt" by Trump.
    Seriously? You freaking morons?
    You know what WOULD be fair?

    That quote from the one Trumper (5.00 / 3) (#32)
    by Yman on Tue Jan 29, 2019 at 04:01:24 PM EST
    ... represents them perfectly.

    `He's not hurting the people he needs to be hurting'

    Not only do they only care about themselves, they actually want him to hurt others.


    These are the people (5.00 / 3) (#34)
    by Chuck0 on Tue Jan 29, 2019 at 05:19:45 PM EST
    that believe that if someone else is succeeding, then they are failing. It's all about winners and losers. No such thing as a rising tide lifts all boats.

    I know but they (5.00 / 1) (#33)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue Jan 29, 2019 at 05:10:42 PM EST
    are essentially sadists that like to see certain groups of people suffer.

    Sicario : Day of the Soldado (5.00 / 1) (#35)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jan 31, 2019 at 11:58:28 AM EST
    Speaking of the Mexican border

    Just saw this.  It's running on STARZ.  It's the movie that made Cheeto think Islamic prayer rugs were being found at the border and women were being hauled across in duct tape.

    Really.  He tweeted these things are happening and as far as anyone can tell, including an investigation by border agents, this movie is the source.

    It's pretty good.  Great cast. I can almost see why he thought he was seeing a documentary.

    Here (none / 0) (#36)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jan 31, 2019 at 12:19:05 PM EST
    Sorry blocked video (5.00 / 1) (#37)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jan 31, 2019 at 12:25:29 PM EST
    After 21 days (none / 0) (#1)
    by ragebot on Fri Jan 25, 2019 at 01:42:37 PM EST
    what is the over/under on how many days before another shut down.

    There will not be another shutdown (5.00 / 1) (#2)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jan 25, 2019 at 02:20:48 PM EST
    Before the next election

    There (none / 0) (#5)
    by FlJoe on Fri Jan 25, 2019 at 02:50:34 PM EST
    are many Republicans who wish to excise the word shutdown from the English language.

    Absolutely (none / 0) (#6)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jan 25, 2019 at 02:51:42 PM EST
    They are not going here again.

    You can write that down.


    There will be (none / 0) (#9)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Jan 25, 2019 at 03:21:40 PM EST
    another shutdown only if the GOP decides that they want to blow up the GOP and start as another party with another name. Apparently Republicans are slow learners. For the last 25 years this has been a tactic and every time they've done it, it pretty much has blown up in their face.

    I don't think it (none / 0) (#10)
    by KeysDan on Fri Jan 25, 2019 at 05:23:43 PM EST
    is a good strategy to proclaim that Trump has "caved".  While this is the language of the media, primarily, it is not good for Democrats to pick up on it or to gloat.  Of course, it is true that Trump recognized that having a prolonged shut down and owning is not winning.  Nor, is the "let them eat cake" insouciance of Cabinet and family members.

    The "cave" represents the workings of democratic government and a strong, united and effective opposition and leaders.  That should be the message and the lesson.

     Of course, Trump should not be let off the hook for the damage he has done to individuals and the economy, but I don't see the need to throw salt in wounds all can already see; Republicans will, no doubt, be looking for opportunities to "get back", but there strong suits are lies, hate and divisiveness.  The country is on to them, at last. Or, at least, the indictments are shedding some light on their heroes.    

    I think Nancy and Chuck (5.00 / 3) (#11)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jan 25, 2019 at 05:29:00 PM EST
    And other dems politicians should take your advise.  And they are as evidenced by my comment about Nancy in the presser.

    That said, nothing on earth will prevent my happy dance.  And it sholdnt prevent yours.

    In my opinion.


    My idea is not (5.00 / 1) (#20)
    by KeysDan on Fri Jan 25, 2019 at 08:41:55 PM EST
    intended to be inconsistent with anyone's happy dance, mine included.   I am proud of the Democrats and, particularly, Miss Nancy.

    Trump is vindictive and, to him, being a good winner is weakness.  But, I don't care about him, do you? (see Melania apparel.) He will always be an azz.


    I agree and (5.00 / 2) (#12)
    by Chuck0 on Fri Jan 25, 2019 at 06:08:28 PM EST
    just said exactly that to the Mrs. They need to stop with "cave". Bone Spurs is a vindictive little toddler. No reason to unnecessarily inflame him.

    Most of the "cave" talk I've seen (5.00 / 2) (#13)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jan 25, 2019 at 06:16:21 PM EST
    Is from the right.

    CNN (none / 0) (#15)
    by FlJoe on Fri Jan 25, 2019 at 06:34:08 PM EST
    is pretty much all in on his caving, rather gleefully too.

    I honestly don't think it's reasonable (5.00 / 1) (#16)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jan 25, 2019 at 06:43:44 PM EST
    To expect reasonable people, particularly one who have been slimed and smeared for two years like CNN, to not be gleeful

    And honestly I'm rethinking the idea we should even try.

    Do we honestly think anything we say will matter?   Think that's a little silly frankly.

    Trump and his fans only care, heck they only hear, what comes from the right.

    I think it's been a helluva long time we had anything to celebrate.  And I say fu@k it.  Celebrate.

    They damn sure would.


    This is bloomberg (5.00 / 2) (#17)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jan 25, 2019 at 06:47:28 PM EST
    I agree

    In a rambling Rose Garden statement, Trump still held out the threat of another shutdown when this bill runs out on Feb. 15. He also suggested he could invoke emergency powers to build his wall if the conference committee doesn't come up with the funding. Neither is very likely. Support for Trump's position has collapsed among Hill Republicans after Thursday's votes demonstrated his weak position, and as the air traffic control system started more visibly eroding Friday morning. Given that, it's hard to believe that Senate Republicans would shut down the government again, only to find themselves in exactly the same situation.

    Fu@k him


    While I agree 'neither is very likely' (none / 0) (#21)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Jan 26, 2019 at 08:35:53 AM EST
    I think Trump trying to declare a national emergency is almost a certainty.  He will learn quickly if he tries another shutdown he will be humiliated again.  This time by republicans.

    It's all he's got.  And he is raging.  He has to show Lou Dobbs and Ann Coulter and Sean Hannity and his other masters he is in charge

    I don't think it will get far in the courts but I don't think he really cares that much about that.  None of this has ever been about an actual but about his valiant fight for a wall.


    Unfortunately (none / 0) (#18)
    by FlJoe on Fri Jan 25, 2019 at 06:57:33 PM EST
    CNN will revert to their bothsiderism soon enough.

    I'm sure when the next fight occurs they will be asking every Democrat why it's not their turn to cave.


    It's probably why some (none / 0) (#14)
    by jondee on Fri Jan 25, 2019 at 06:19:03 PM EST
    of the right-wing, like Milo Coulter, is talking about it.

    Trying to goad Trump into worse behavior down the road.


    Trump did not cave (5.00 / 2) (#19)
    by MKS on Fri Jan 25, 2019 at 07:08:10 PM EST
    He got the ability to give a big speech at the State of the Union.

    That was what motivated him to end the shutdown.   Not empathy for the federal workers.


    I wonder (5.00 / 1) (#22)
    by Ga6thDem on Sat Jan 26, 2019 at 09:16:02 AM EST
    if Nancy has been working with the same psychologist that Hillary used dealing with Trump during the debates. There's nothing worse for an NPD than missing a time to be in front of a crowd and to actually be on TV in front of millions? That's a massive bargaining chip to use with NPD.

    Also, (none / 0) (#23)
    by KeysDan on Sat Jan 26, 2019 at 09:38:02 AM EST
    The. Super Bowl.

    Except, it turns out, he will not be able (none / 0) (#25)
    by Peter G on Sat Jan 26, 2019 at 10:02:10 PM EST
    to give it on the originally scheduled date, this coming Tuesday. Some other time, sez the Speaker.

    Best thing on the Sunday shows (none / 0) (#26)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Jan 27, 2019 at 09:24:02 AM EST
    So far....

    David Bossie on THIS WEEK.


    You know (none / 0) (#27)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Jan 28, 2019 at 06:41:59 PM EST
    I'm starting to wonder if the republicans actually might be lame and stupid enough to shut down the government again.

    It seems impossible but we live in impossible times.

    They do seem to have some kind of death wish.

    It couldn't (none / 0) (#29)
    by KeysDan on Tue Jan 29, 2019 at 11:04:03 AM EST
    happen again.  Only a fig moron would even think about it.

    I believe Bone Spurs (5.00 / 1) (#30)
    by Chuck0 on Tue Jan 29, 2019 at 11:40:53 AM EST
    is ALL IN on another shutdown. Based on that, the spineless toadies in the GOP will fall in line and go along.

    Incredibly (none / 0) (#31)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jan 29, 2019 at 11:44:50 AM EST
    It could be so.

    House definitely all inm


    SITE VIOLATOR (none / 0) (#39)
    by Yman on Thu Feb 07, 2019 at 08:30:58 PM EST