Trump vs.The World on Detaining Migrant Children

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Posted on Tue Jun 19, 2018 at 04:22:17 PM EST
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As if Donald Trump hasn't done enough to debase our country and its values, he's stepping in another pile of dung today. It will shortly be announced that the U.S. is withdrawing from the U.N. Human Rights Council.

Trump thinks he can trample on the rights of the disenfranchised, including children.He hopes to misdirect the conversation to lay blame on Democrats. It's a con game. The carnival barker is demanding Democrats pass an immigration bill with funding for his border wall.

McClatchy reports today that data shows officials may have lost track of 6,000 children. [More...]

Trump started this fiasco with his two immigration orders in early 2017. Those orders paved the way forJefferson Sessions' announcement of a zero-tolerance policy in April. ICE statistics show that by the end of May, more than 2,000 children have been locked up without their parents.

This is not okay. This is not acceptable. Read what this Pediatricians' organization had to say about it a year ago.

Republicans will rue the day they stood behind such an inhumane policy.

In the meantime, please contribute to the ACLU and immigration rights groups who can take Trump to Court, and groups that will provide financial and other support to the families affected.

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David Gergen just said on CNN (5.00 / 6) (#3)
by CaptHowdy on Tue Jun 19, 2018 at 05:57:21 PM EST

This is "Trumps Katrina" I've been hearing this all day.

But if I remember Trump already had a Katrina. Gergen probably did not pundit that much about Puerto Rico.

Katrina (5.00 / 3) (#5)
by FlJoe on Tue Jun 19, 2018 at 06:47:51 PM EST

unmasked incompetence, indifference and the usual whiff of racism. Basically generic Republicanism, exposed by a semi predictable disaster.

This is has unmasked a monster purposely created by the hands of Miller, Sessions, Bannon and Kelley and proudly unmasked the beast themselves.


Katrina (5.00 / 2) (#10)
by MKS on Tue Jun 19, 2018 at 09:04:54 PM EST

was the result of neglect.

This is deliberately malicious. They are proud in the White House of what they are doing. They delight in letting the world know how tough they are.


They are (none / 0) (#13)
by CaptHowdy on Tue Jun 19, 2018 at 09:09:54 PM EST

I believe their confidence in this particular effort is misguided. Actually, misguidedZILLA

I the baby jails story is horrifying

Unbelievable.


They have got to find (5.00 / 2) (#14)
by MKS on Tue Jun 19, 2018 at 09:18:41 PM EST

and get photos of the girls and toddlers.

They are hiding something.

How many have been lost or abducted already?


: We've got 3 baby jails in Texas (none / 0) (#15)
by Militarytracy on Tue Jun 19, 2018 at 09:32:36 PM EST

A 4th one going in in Houston.
Cuomo has listed 3 immigrant child jails being used in New York.

Yeah (none / 0) (#4)
by Ga6thDem on Tue Jun 19, 2018 at 06:44:14 PM EST

Rick Wilson said he got a DM from some big pro Trump pollster who said Trump has a week before everything collapses on him.

His horrible actions in Puerto Rico went virtually unreported after a point in time.

This is a lot like Katrina because once again it is POC that are being treated inhumanely.


Trump got a pass on everyone (none / 0) (#12)
by Militarytracy on Tue Jun 19, 2018 at 09:08:51 PM EST

He killed in Puerto Rico.

The press wasn't going to hear our screams until babies were screaming.

They still seem reluctant to not be complicit enablers


We are damned (5.00 / 6) (#8)
by CaptHowdy on Tue Jun 19, 2018 at 08:41:41 PM EST

Youngest migrants held in `tender age' shelters
By GARANCE BURKE AND MARTHA MENDOZA
19 minutes ago

Trump administration officials have been sending babies and other young children forcibly separated from their parents at the U.S.-Mexico border to at least three "tender age" shelters in South Texas, The Associated Press has learned.

Rachel just broke down on air reading this. It was real.

Tweet (none / 0) (#9)
by CaptHowdy on Tue Jun 19, 2018 at 08:54:55 PM EST

All from this Associated Press story that broke while I was on the air tonight, but which I was unable to read on the air:

Again, I apologize for losing it there for a moment. Not the way I intended that to go, not by a mile


: This is actually worth watching (none / 0) (#17)
by CaptHowdy on Wed Jun 20, 2018 at 07:44:07 AM EST

a rare moment of actual humanity on cable news
I saw it happen and found moving

Child abuse!!! (none / 0) (#11)
by Militarytracy on Tue Jun 19, 2018 at 09:06:44 PM EST

Damage, long term damage


Corey Lewandowski mocks disabled girl (5.00 / 3) (#21)
by Yman on Wed Jun 20, 2018 at 10:05:09 AM EST

He was sitting on a panel when someone was relating the story of a 10 year old girl with Down's Syndrome who was taken from her mother. His reaction was to roll his eyes and say "Womp, Womp."

There's a special place in he// for scumb@gs like this.

My fear is that they will not be able to (5.00 / 4) (#29)
by ruffian on Wed Jun 20, 2018 at 11:05:17 AM EST

reunite the families, even after they come to their senses and stop doing this. I have no faith that decent records have been kept.

These "people" don't give two sh*ts... (5.00 / 3) (#46)
by MileHi Hawkeye on Wed Jun 20, 2018 at 10:43:11 PM EST

about these kids or their health or well being. Witness this...

President Donald Trump's zero tolerance policy is creating a zombie army of children forcibly injected with medications that make them dizzy, listless, obese and even incapacitated, according to legal filings that show immigrant children in U.S. custody subdued with powerful psychiatric drugs.

Conducting medical experiments on kids forcibly removed from their parents and put in camps - words fail me. Can we call them what they truly are - nazi's - yet?

On a related note (none / 0) (#1)
by CaptHowdy on Tue Jun 19, 2018 at 05:22:17 PM EST

UN condemns Trump policy on child separation as abuse

: If I had clicked the link first (none / 0) (#2)
by CaptHowdy on Tue Jun 19, 2018 at 05:24:02 PM EST

I would have seen that was in the sub head.
My bad

This is not (none / 0) (#6)
by Ga6thDem on Tue Jun 19, 2018 at 07:33:16 PM EST

the first time the GOP has supported child separation. Remember Elian Gonzalez anyone?

: Yes. That was awful. The media didn't help. (5.00 / 1) (#7)
by Donald from Hawaii on Tue Jun 19, 2018 at 07:52:05 PM EST

While I realize that Attorney General Janet Reno probably cost Democratic presidential nominee Al Gore a lot of votes in Florida's Cuban American community, she nevertheless stood on principle and absolutely did the right thing by ordering the FBI to barge into that house and seize the boy to return to his father back home in Havana. Lázaro and Marisleysis González's 15 minutes were up.

News (none / 0) (#16)
by linea on Tue Jun 19, 2018 at 11:26:00 PM EST

Re: U.S. is withdrawing from the U.N. Human Rights Council

My opinion, this is getting more attention in Europe than the US. It's front page on SVT News with a photo of UN Ambassador Nikki Haley.

My interpretive translation (not exact):

Donald Trump's administration in the United Statss seems to rate one thing higher than anyone else -- while the UN Human Rights Council has played an important role in countries such as North Korea, Syria, Myanmar (Burma) and South Sudan, all the trumpets seem to be attentive to is defending Israel.

If any of you actually believe (none / 0) (#18)
by Chuck0 on Wed Jun 20, 2018 at 08:38:05 AM EST

that Bone Spurs will back down from this, you are all sadly delusional. He will not. He will never, ever admit it was wrong, or that it was a mistake. Never. At best, he will lay the blame on Sessions and use it as an excuse to finally fire him. But I have my doubts. This is a political move, plain and simple. It is leverage to force a bill that completely funds his wall. Why do you think he's blaming Democrats in Congress. Why is he lobbying Congress so hard all of a sudden. He believe this will get his wall.

And I tell you, should the Democrats cave over this issue and become complicit in funding this waste of time and money, I will never, ever vote for a Democrat for what is left of my life. Never. They have been cowards for too long, afraid to fight dirty, afraid to fight in the trenches.

Yes, this policy is abominable. I agree with MKS that this administration should charged with Crimes Against Humanity. But if the Democrats cave and give him the wall over this, what's next? There is no depths to the depravity of this worthless excuse of human excrement. And that extends to Sessions. What despicable action will the oompah loompah take next to get something he promised his looney tune followers?

DO NOT CAVE TO THIS BLACKMAIL.

You are right (none / 0) (#19)
by CaptHowdy on Wed Jun 20, 2018 at 08:53:01 AM EST

He will never "back down"

But I really think he will find a way to blame someo else, Neilsen, Sessions, and reverse this.

IMO the most remarkable bit from last night's meeting with the peanut gallery was his admission the his daughter, the Nazi princess, had come to him and explained that this "looks bad"

Honest to god. Not that it WAS BAD. Not that it was horrific and inhuman and a abomination but that it "looks bad".

It's starting to sink in to this TV president that Miller and Bannon were wrong. This is not a winning issue.

He is IMO desperately flailing to find a way, a goat, a sacrifice.

I completely agree if democrats cave they do not deserve to win. Unlike you I think - for once - they might JUST understand this.

As the backlash grows I become more hopeful.

I said before this will not stand.

By the end of the week it will be fixed.


If nothing else (5.00 / 1) (#20)
by CaptHowdy on Wed Jun 20, 2018 at 09:10:01 AM EST

Cheeto and Eva, I mean Ivanka, understand that video of the baby jails is coming.

They are evil. Not stupid.


At the time of (5.00 / 1) (#24)
by KeysDan on Wed Jun 20, 2018 at 10:19:13 AM EST

the "feckless Ivanka" matter, and the Madonna pose holding her children in her arms, I believed it was a signal to white mothers not to be concerned, the Trump policy was for brown children...white mothers be not concerned.

Not to push Godwin's rule, but symbols were needed at that time to re-assure just who were the scapegoats, and just too much of Trump is following that script.


Toldyaso (5.00 / 1) (#25)
by CaptHowdy on Wed Jun 20, 2018 at 10:45:20 AM EST

Reversal coming today

Google it


Yep, got to get (5.00 / 1) (#27)
by KeysDan on Wed Jun 20, 2018 at 10:48:44 AM EST

ahead of those inevitable photos of the toddler's gulag.


The (5.00 / 2) (#38)
by FlJoe on Wed Jun 20, 2018 at 04:03:35 PM EST

Mask is carefully reapplied to the monsters face, the blood is scrubbed from his tiny hands, spin doctors and apologists huddle in cramped offices, crafting the next big lie. By this time next week they will be telling the world that it was tRump and tRump alone that was able to thwart the deep state's child snatching.

Hopefully the pundits won't ever let this go but I wouldn't put much money on it. Even more hopefully enough Republicans will discover a shred of decency to actually stand up to this monster, but I would probably bet against that in the long run.

Maybe just maybe this actually the hill he dies on, or maybe the monster can't be slayed and we are doomed. If this ugliness is allowed to pass and fade into the turbulent wake, then ........


I think there is slim chance of fading (5.00 / 1) (#39)
by CaptHowdy on Wed Jun 20, 2018 at 04:34:32 PM EST

Thousands of children are now in limbo. Many may never be reunited with their family again. This will be a story for months if not years. These children will be followed and bioed and advocated for.

I think more importantly in a political sense a significant number of red state republicans were about to flip on Trump. They really were. And they made it clear. Their red constituents had signaled they could. That in the end is the only reason this happened

I think that is huge. Possibly the most significant political event since the election.

I believe we have found the bottom.


: The June 30 event (5.00 / 1) (#40)
by CaptHowdy on Wed Jun 20, 2018 at 04:36:42 PM EST

Will still happen for a start.

: True (none / 0) (#41)
by Ga6thDem on Wed Jun 20, 2018 at 04:54:22 PM EST

because even if he actually stops separating families from now on there's still a couple of month's worth of carnage from his policy.

Yep, got to get (none / 0) (#28)
by KeysDan on Wed Jun 20, 2018 at 10:49:03 AM EST

Does that mean (none / 0) (#31)
by MKS on Wed Jun 20, 2018 at 12:24:52 PM EST

He gets the Nobel Peace Prize? After all, he solved a problem he reated. Just like Korea. He is getting kudos for reducung tensions that he escalated.


: "Created" (none / 0) (#33)
by MKS on Wed Jun 20, 2018 at 12:25:57 PM EST

Does that mean (none / 0) (#32)
by MKS on Wed Jun 20, 2018 at 12:25:06 PM EST

I don't know, Captain, evil as they come, but (none / 0) (#42)
by KeysDan on Wed Jun 20, 2018 at 05:25:46 PM EST

you have to be good at evil..Trump, Feckless Ivanka, et al. are not all that bright. The executive order just released, the one that Trump has been saying for weeks that he could not do, misspelled separate. Not a big deal in and of itself, but symbolic of their incompetence that is the hope of our democracy. But, you are right they are smart enough when their very survival is at stake.


: What, you expect these "people" (5.00 / 2) (#44)
by Peter G on Wed Jun 20, 2018 at 05:52:44 PM EST

to have graduated from seventh grade?

: I saw that (none / 0) (#43)
by CaptHowdy on Wed Jun 20, 2018 at 05:29:58 PM EST

add it to list I guess

Congress will give it to him (5.00 / 1) (#22)
by Yman on Wed Jun 20, 2018 at 10:08:54 AM EST

They'll pass something which he will be able to point to and say, "See? I told you we needed Congress to pass a law to fix this horrible situation, which I had nothing to do with and which is all the Democrat's fault!".

His supporters will actually believe it.


: His supporters (5.00 / 4) (#35)
by Ga6thDem on Wed Jun 20, 2018 at 02:15:03 PM EST

will believe anything. I don't care about what they think. It's the other 65% of the population that I am concerned with.

: Yep (none / 0) (#23)
by CaptHowdy on Wed Jun 20, 2018 at 10:15:46 AM EST

: Yes, they will go (none / 0) (#26)
by KeysDan on Wed Jun 20, 2018 at 10:45:58 AM EST

from jailing parents and children separately to jailing them together. Which is Republican progress. And, yes, whatever happens, from blaming the Democrats, to claiming only 3 percent ever show for hearings will be believed by his supporters, because Trump is the best..liar. He has a lifetime of practice and knows no other way.

There are reports now of drugged children (none / 0) (#47)
by Militarytracy on Thu Jun 21, 2018 at 03:09:24 AM EST

And children held in solitary confinement nude.

Trump will likely need someone to blame.

He regrets so many of his past firings now I think he will drag his feet holding anyone accountable. If he does fire someone please let him fire Nielsen!


: It is so hard to decide (5.00 / 3) (#48)
by Peter G on Thu Jun 21, 2018 at 07:24:14 PM EST

what should be Article I in the bill of impeachment. I cannot fathom how detaining minors in government camps, for any reason at all -- and worse, if these new stories are true -- rather than placing them in foster care (which is bad enough) is remotely constitutional.

The beginning of the backpedal in underway (none / 0) (#30)
by CoralGables on Wed Jun 20, 2018 at 12:20:17 PM EST

Well, I'm just waiting for the next.. (none / 0) (#34)
by desertswine on Wed Jun 20, 2018 at 12:58:32 PM EST

outrage.


As far as I am concerned, Tr*mp is the (5.00 / 2) (#37)
by vml68 on Wed Jun 20, 2018 at 03:07:00 PM EST

: Indeed. (none / 0) (#45)
by desertswine on Wed Jun 20, 2018 at 07:44:10 PM EST

Give him 24 hours (none / 0) (#36)
by CoralGables on Wed Jun 20, 2018 at 02:27:56 PM EST