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Rudy Strikes Out with Law Firm

Rudy Giuliani and his law firm have parted ways. Rudy says it is because he needs to devote all his time to Donald Trump and the Russia investigation.
His law firm, Greenberg Taurig (once home to Jack Abramoff) adds another reason. It disagrees that using law firm funds to pay off an adult entertainment star who claims to have had an affair with a client is routine procedure, when the client has not approved it. (Trump has publicly said he didn't know of the payment beforehand.) Not only isn't it routine, the firm announced in a statement, it isn't acceptable.

“Speaking for ourselves, we would not condone payments of the nature alleged to have been made or otherwise without the knowledge and direction of a client.”

What does "or otherwise" mean in this context?

The only person striking out more than Rudy this month is Michael Cohen.

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    I read that lawyerese syntax (5.00 / 1) (#1)
    by Peter G on Thu May 10, 2018 at 04:21:00 PM EST
    as attaching the "otherwise" to the words that follow, that is: "or otherwise without the knowledge and direction of the client." In other words, a lawyer does not act professionally when s/he spends the lawyer's own funds (or a law firm's own funds) on a client's behalf, at least not without the client's knowledge and direction, whether it involved circumstances "of the nature alleged" in the Cohen case or for the purpose allegedly involved in the Cohen case, or not, that is, "or otherwise."

    Means of payment (none / 0) (#5)
    by sphealey on Thu May 10, 2018 at 07:02:38 PM EST
    Interesting.  I read that to mean there may have been additional payments made using means other[wise] than those already revealed, or that the firm is attempting to insulate itself if such other means of payment are revealed in the future.

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    Now that he has used the (5.00 / 2) (#2)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu May 10, 2018 at 04:46:05 PM EST
    "Devote all his time to Trump" excuse what will the excuse be when Trump throws him under the bus bad fires him?

    More time with his family?  

    What family? Isn't he estranged from (none / 0) (#3)
    by Anne on Thu May 10, 2018 at 04:50:51 PM EST
    his children, and isn't he now in the middle of another divorce?

    When even your family doesn't want anything to do with you...

    As an aside, Greenberg Traurig is the law firm of Jack Abramoff, for heaven's sake - maybe GT pitched Rudy over the side to keep the spotlight off their firm.

    I figure pretty soon, Giuliani's just going to be doddering down Manhattan streets mumbling about 9/11.

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    Even (none / 0) (#4)
    by FlJoe on Thu May 10, 2018 at 05:26:10 PM EST
    the wingnut welfare train will be leaving him at the station.

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    Rudy (none / 0) (#8)
    by KeysDan on Fri May 11, 2018 at 02:40:05 PM EST
    may have made amends with young Andrew (son of Rudy and wife #2, Donna Hanover).  Rudy possibly may have had something to do with Andrew Giuiliani's current job as Public Liaison Assistant to Trump.

    Don't know what experience or competency is needed for such liaising but it may be Andrew's pugnaciousness as noted in his federal law suite against Duke University over his golfing coach kicking him off the golfing team.  A US Magistrate Judge recommended dismissal saying that the suit did not make par; the dismissal was granted, subsequently, by a federal judge.

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    He's getting divorced (none / 0) (#7)
    by Militarytracy on Fri May 11, 2018 at 08:08:39 AM EST
    So he can spend more time with Trump

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    A song for Rudy Giuliani (5.00 / 1) (#6)
    by hilts on Thu May 10, 2018 at 08:01:12 PM EST
    courtesy of the Clash
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEK9oK02D1M

    Giuliani is a first class jerk, but I love this song


    Instant aphrodisiac (5.00 / 1) (#9)
    by Militarytracy on Fri May 11, 2018 at 06:05:19 PM EST
    Get you and your husband to a pub, and over a nice nitro poured pint gaze at your husband and list all the ways in your head that he is a little like Michael Avenatti. It really works, swear. I'm going to shave his head when he falls asleep tonight.

    Bwahaha! (none / 0) (#10)
    by Zorba on Fri May 11, 2018 at 06:16:22 PM EST
    n/t

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    He reminds me of Mary Matalin's (none / 0) (#11)
    by ruffian on Sat May 12, 2018 at 10:35:44 AM EST
    Affectionate nickname for her husband James Carville- Serpent Head

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