Friday News and Open Thread

The news is that despite getting both vaccines a year apart as recommended, I have somehow gotten pneumonia. I was expecting a cold after spending 5 hours in a tiny jail visiting room after Xmas with my client who blew through wads of tissues the entire time, but pneumonia?

I haven't seen any news since Monday because all my time has been spent writing motions to continue in all my cases. The antibiotics are so strong it's hard to concentrate and type for long periods.

Happily it's "atypical" pneumonia which means the antibiotics should do their job in about ten days, and I don't have to stay in bed, just take it easy (no jails or trips to court.) I'm also considered contagious for 10 days.

So that's my news. In TV news: [More...]

I wish it were next week so Grace and Frankie's next season was here. Also looking good: Babylon Berlin. What I'm not too interested in: David Letterman's new show that starts today with President Barack Obama. It's Letterman I don't care to watch. He really looks awful with that beard.

I do intend to post over the weekend and try and work on the new version of TalkLeft. Check it out and let me know if you have suggestions. I'll put a post up there asking for your thoughts, so you can test out the comments.

This is an open thread, all topics welcome.

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    So sorry Jeralyn. (5.00 / 3) (#1)
    by fishcamp on Fri Jan 12, 2018 at 05:54:18 PM EST
    Get some rest, get over it, and get back.  We'll take care of everything around here...🌴

    As a kid (5.00 / 1) (#76)
    by CST on Mon Jan 15, 2018 at 11:24:07 AM EST
    My favorite band in the world was the Cranberries.   They were the first concert I ever went to, I spent hours listening to them on my Walkman and later discman - every car trip I ever took growing up.

    RIP Dolores.  You had the most beautiful voice.

    That sucks. (none / 0) (#77)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Mon Jan 15, 2018 at 11:42:04 AM EST
    Way, way too young. She did have a wonderful voice.

    Cranberries.. (none / 0) (#80)
    by desertswine on Mon Jan 15, 2018 at 03:10:32 PM EST
    Released in 1993, "Zombie" is ... (5.00 / 2) (#82)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Mon Jan 15, 2018 at 04:07:31 PM EST
    ... arguably one of the best protest rock songs ever written. A powerful and timely howl against "The Troubles," that tragic period of ethno-nationalist conflict and asymmetrical warfare which had engulfed Northern Ireland for nearly 25 years at that point, Dolores O'Riordan's plaintive lyrics speaks to the folly of invoking present-day violence to avenge long-held grievances of the past:

    "Another mother's breaking heart is taking over.
    When the violence causes silence, we must be mistaken.
    It's the same old theme since nineteen sixteen,
    In your head, in your head, they're still fighting
    With their tanks, and their bombs,
    And their bombs, and their guns.
    In your head, in your head, they are dying."

    "Zombie" was The Cranberries' biggest hit.


    That's a great song (none / 0) (#83)
    by jondee on Mon Jan 15, 2018 at 06:16:37 PM EST
    Fire and Fury: Book Review (5.00 / 1) (#84)
    by RickyJim on Mon Jan 15, 2018 at 07:00:33 PM EST
    I finished it today.  If you want a chapter by chapter summary, Matt Taibbi does a decent job in Rolling Stone.  I will limit myself to some bullets of what remained with me after finishing it.

    ° Book is a series of vignettes about how various personalities behave.  There is next to nothing about policy decisions.

    ° Despite what its critics say, most of the important comments are attributed - Steve Bannon, Katie Walsh, Hope Hicks, Kellyanne Conway, Sam Nunberg, Dina Powell.  I haven't heard much outrage from any of them that they were misquoted so I think that the book is 90% or so accurate.

    ° 94 year old Henry Kissinger is an important foreign policy advisor to Jared Kushner.

    ° The main body of the book ends last September when Bannon was fired.

    ° The only place where I remember policy alternatives were discussed was about Afghanistan.  Some of Trump's advisors wanted a surge, others hiring contractors to take care of the mess.  Wolff didn't explain what was finally decided but he did tell a funny anecdote.  Trump said it would be better to ask the soldiers on the ground what to do about the 16 year old war.  He justified that by recalling that one his favorite restaurants, The Four Seasons, closed down for a year in order to figure out how to improve business.  After hiring expensive consultants, they hit on the idea of increasing the size of the kitchen, as any waiter would have told them.  

    ° There was a battle between Jarvanka (for) and Bannon (against) the Comey firing.  It is suggested that the couple may have more to fear from the Mueller investigation than DJT.

    ° Wolff predicts that Nikki Haley, who has presidential ambitions, will replace Tillerson as Secretary of State.  Her replacement at the UN will be Dina Powell. The only thing that can derail Haley is the fact that she is much smarter than Trump, and he knows it.

    Excellent summary. (none / 0) (#86)
    by oculus on Tue Jan 16, 2018 at 09:55:28 AM EST
    That's awful (none / 0) (#2)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jan 12, 2018 at 06:26:10 PM EST
    But it reminds me to get the second  shot.

    Take care of yourself.  It can get more serious on ya.

    I got the second shot last year. (none / 0) (#3)
    by caseyOR on Fri Jan 12, 2018 at 06:31:09 PM EST
    Hoping it does the trick.

    So sorry to hear you are ailing, Jeralyn. Fish amp is right. Get rest and get well.

    I'm sorry (none / 0) (#4)
    by Ga6thDem on Fri Jan 12, 2018 at 06:38:11 PM EST
    to hear you are not feeling well. I hope it doesn't take the entire 10 days to get back to feeling normal.

    flu (none / 0) (#5)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jan 12, 2018 at 06:48:36 PM EST
    Flu Shot (none / 0) (#9)
    by MKS on Fri Jan 12, 2018 at 07:36:53 PM EST
    I just got one for the first time in a long time.....Good thing, apparently.

    i always get one (none / 0) (#11)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jan 12, 2018 at 07:43:21 PM EST
    i have been reading flu stories today and was a litte surprised to learn that they only expect them to be aboUt 30% effective.

    I read that the dominant strain of (none / 0) (#15)
    by caseyOR on Fri Jan 12, 2018 at 08:40:27 PM EST
    flu this year, the H3N2 virus, is an especially virulent strain. So, more people getting the flu and getting sicker from the flu.

    So true. The wife and I both got our flu shots (none / 0) (#17)
    by Peter G on Fri Jan 12, 2018 at 08:53:31 PM EST
    and she's been sick with flu for nine days now, sickest I can remember her being for longer than I can remember in the 44 years I've known her. Coughing, little appetite, sleeping 13 hours a day. And nothing to be done about it, according to the doctor, other than to wait for it to pass. She came in to work for two hours Friday afternoon, for the first time in a week, and had to go home to bed after that. I, on the other hand, have had only a little cough and no other symptoms.

    I hope she feels better soon (5.00 / 1) (#23)
    by Militarytracy on Fri Jan 12, 2018 at 09:46:42 PM EST
    Everyone my husband works with had to get a flu shot but it still got some of them too. Some pretty tough people in bed for days this year.

    i had somrthing in the fall (none / 0) (#20)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jan 12, 2018 at 09:00:56 PM EST
    the symptoms were more like yours.  i never got really really sick.  i just felt like low grade krap and coughed a lot.  a lot.

    the weird thing was it lasted for 4 or 5 weeks.  i eventually saw the dr and they said that was the deal.  a virus that lasted a month or so.

    i hope that was it.  maybe it will protect me now.


    I had that in fall, too (5.00 / 1) (#31)
    by Towanda on Sat Jan 13, 2018 at 10:59:02 AM EST
    and the coughing also went on for many weeks.  With interrupted sleep from coughing that went on for weeks, too. It was awful, and exhausting.

    Yes, it's a rough failing vaccine year (none / 0) (#22)
    by Militarytracy on Fri Jan 12, 2018 at 09:43:19 PM EST
    Watching Josh like a hawk. He came home with a fever this afternoon :( Gave him some Ibuprofen but I'm concerned that he's got it.

    I may have come "this" close to (none / 0) (#6)
    by Anne on Fri Jan 12, 2018 at 06:57:58 PM EST
    a bout of pneumonia, as well, but I'm not sure what I had was that much better. Last Tuesday, after dealing with this bad cold for almost a week, and coughing like crazy, I went to the acute care clinic, thinking I'd walk out after not too long with a prescription and be on my way.

    Ha!  So much for that theory.  I arrived around 3:30 and didn't get home til after 8:00.

    I got a chest x-ray, bloodwork, and because the doc heard wheezing, had 3 breathing treatments and a huge dose of prednisone.  Ended up with three prescriptions: 12 days of prednisone, a cough syrup with codeine for nighttime, a cough suppressant for daytime, and an OTC expectorant to loosen everything up and help make my cough more productive.

    Stayed home Wednesday and Thursday, and by that evening, I felt like maybe I had turned the corner, went to work on Friday and had a normal weekend -was still coughing, but felt fine.  Worked all this week with no problem - coughing from time to time, but not in a terrible way.  My voice still has not come back all the way, but it's better.

    Doctor says I can expect to deal with this for a good 4-6 weeks before it fully resolves - and in the meantime, hope I get nothing else!  Co-workers who got this in early December are still coughing.

    So, feel better, take it easy, stay away from germy people as much as you can.  

    Anne, I've been following your (5.00 / 1) (#10)
    by Jeralyn on Fri Jan 12, 2018 at 07:39:08 PM EST
    comments about your cold, and hope you get rid of it soon. I think the ailment is different depending on whether you have a dry cough or we cough. Mine is a wet cough, and I wasn't given any cough medicine (I also didn't ask for it, but I'm pretty sure my doctor would have said no, we're not trying to suppress the cough we want you to cough it up and the antibiotics will take care of the rest.) I hope she's right!

    Apparently what was happening with me (none / 0) (#13)
    by Anne on Fri Jan 12, 2018 at 08:17:01 PM EST
    is that the upper respiratory infection, that was producing large quantities of snot and post-nasal drip (I could hear the crackling in my upper chest), was causing the coughing, but all the coughing was irritating my bronchial tubes and causing them to narrow - thus the wheezing.  I wasn't aware of that - I wasn't short of breath or anything, I just couldn't stop coughing.  

    The night before I went to the doctor, I gave up trying to sleep in the bed and moved to the chair, to a more upright position, but it didn't help much.

    The codeine was a godsend, allowing me some sleep - I still coughed quite a bit, but I was able to conk out for short periods.  I didn't take the daytime suppressant but once - just made sure to take the expectorant as directed, which helped get things moving in the right direction.

    It's exhausting - and at work, I was so conscious of how people must be getting so tired of hearing me cough all the time.  I was sick of hearing myself cough!

    I think this week, I'm going to get the flu shot.  The firm used to bring someone in to give them, but decided this year that since our insurance covers it, they were just going to let us do it on our own.  Probably fewer of us got the shot as a result, but I think given the epidemic nature of it now, and having just come through the other side on this horrible upper respiratory thing, I don't want to take the chance I'd get the flu.


    live sience (none / 0) (#7)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jan 12, 2018 at 07:20:12 PM EST
    When someone is unable to breathe normally, that's a sign the flu may be progressing to pneumonia," and the person should definitely seek care, he said. Having difficulty breathing means that the infection has moved downward. Usually, the influenza virus infects the upper part of the respiratory tract, for example, the bronchi (the tubes that lead into the lungs), he said. If the infection moves down into the lungs and causes pneumonia, a patient can get worse very quickly

    on staying away from germs (none / 0) (#8)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jan 12, 2018 at 07:34:16 PM EST
    i called my doctor today about a perscription and there was one person in the office who said there were basically closed because everyone was sick.

    it really hitting here.  im trying to not leave my house.  when i go to the store i try to hold my breath and then slather on the purell.


    I hear you there. (none / 0) (#27)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sat Jan 13, 2018 at 02:40:40 AM EST
    Anne: "So, feel better, take it easy, stay away from germy people as much as you can."

    I caught a bad cold this week that kept me in bed all day Wednesday and Thursday. I'm much better today, still congested but at least I felt like getting up and working from my home office.

    I don't usually catch colds, and when I do, I tend to shake them off pretty quickly after one or two days. But oh my, for those one or two days, it's like I've been tagged by a knockout punch. I'm just this side of dysfunctional, and all I want to do is sleep it off. And so, that's exactly what I do. I hate missing work, but why expose my bug to everybody else?

    Hope that you and Jeralyn feel better soon.


    Kamala Harris (none / 0) (#12)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jan 12, 2018 at 07:44:45 PM EST
    is on Rachel

    Get better fast Jeralyn... (none / 0) (#14)
    by desertswine on Fri Jan 12, 2018 at 08:20:14 PM EST
    chicken soup, hot tea, old movies, and no stress.  Respiratory infections seem to be all over the place this winter.  I've been fighting off a cold for weeks.

    Chicken soup, yes, that's traditional, but (5.00 / 1) (#19)
    by Peter G on Fri Jan 12, 2018 at 08:58:46 PM EST
    honestly, we have come to swear by hot & sour soup from the Chinese take-out.

    Re: paying off the adult film star (none / 0) (#16)
    by Anne on Fri Jan 12, 2018 at 08:44:54 PM EST
    Can't imagine who would even want to admit they'd had a sexual encounter with Trump; they'd have to pay me to come forwrd, not to keep quiet.

    Not sure how (none / 0) (#25)
    by Repack Rider on Fri Jan 12, 2018 at 10:06:24 PM EST
    ...the WSJ got such an exact figure, but that suggests they had a source with knowledge.  It's hard to move that kind of money without leaving tracks.

    If the WSJ knows it, Mueller knows it.

    Apparently it is a documented fact that the lawyer paid the woman a lot of money for something. She has produced a letter that says she never did that thing they say. Because everyone writes a notorized document about something they didn't do.

    Tricky thing to my IANAL eyes is that she can probably shoot her mouth off all she wants. Worst case, they ask for the money back and she triples it with the book.

    If they say she has violated an agreement by going public, she can say, "So sue me."  Mr. Trump never follows through, especially now when discovery would be a huge problem for him.


    Klan Killer dies in prison... (none / 0) (#21)
    by desertswine on Fri Jan 12, 2018 at 09:31:12 PM EST
    at long last.

     Edgar Ray Killen, a 1960s Ku Klux Klan leader who was convicted decades later in the "Mississippi Burning" slayings of three civil rights workers, has died in prison at the age of 92, the state's corrections department announced.

    Take care Jeralyn (none / 0) (#24)
    by Militarytracy on Fri Jan 12, 2018 at 09:49:56 PM EST
    I hope you feel well soon.

    The last Jedi (none / 0) (#26)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jan 12, 2018 at 11:23:30 PM EST
    Meets the real dark side


    Star Wars: The Last Jedi has managed to stir up every corner of the Star Wars fandom, with opinions starkly divided on whether it's the best Star Wars movie ever, or the worst.

    But now it seems that a portion of the fandom lashing out against Rian Johnson`s film has been heavily manipulated. An alt-right group is claiming responsibility for manipulating the Star Wars: The Last Jedi Rotten Tomatoes audience score.

    Star Wars: The Last Jedi has the distinction of boasting the largest critic-to-fan difference on Rotten Tomatoes, with critics giving the film a 92% certified fresh rating, while audiences gave it a measly 54% as of Thursday. There were some rumors going around claiming that this low score was manipulated, but there was no confirmation on whether this was true. But now ,the moderator of an alt-right Facebook group called Down With Disney's Treatment of Franchises and its Fanboys, has admitted to The Huffington Post that it used bots to flood the website with negative reviews for The Last Jedi.

    I kinda sorta feel sorry for people ... (none / 0) (#28)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sat Jan 13, 2018 at 02:56:17 AM EST
    ... whose personal political orientation is such that they can't turn it off, and it precludes them from even enjoying a movie by twisting their intercranial synapses 24/7, like one's wringing out of a wet dishrag. I mean, for Heaven's sake, wingbats, it's just Star Wars!

    If I feel better tomorrow, we're going to see "The Post."


    YES! This is why I put Facebook down (none / 0) (#29)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Jan 13, 2018 at 08:17:54 AM EST
    And haven't picked it up again. The platform can be used too easily to skew. I have better things to do than sheeple.

    Sympathies, Jeralyn (none / 0) (#30)
    by Towanda on Sat Jan 13, 2018 at 10:56:06 AM EST
    and please do not be fooled when you start to feel better. Real recovery from pneumonia takes a while.

    And I am not happy to hear that the pneumonia shots may not work.  I had them since having three bouts in three years, and I thought that I would not have to endure pneumonia again.

    Feel better J. (none / 0) (#32)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Sat Jan 13, 2018 at 11:30:04 AM EST
    A couple months ago my wet cough turned into the sorest throat I've ever had. Like razor blades every time I swallowed.

    This was concurrent with the worst episode of leg, butt, and foot pain (due to my jacked-up back) that I've ever had.

    Could not sleep a wink. Lasted all night and all the next day.

    After work and 18+ hours of torture I went to the emergency care and the PA there prescribed a Z-pack just in case, and shot me up with a miracle drug. Seriously.

    Dexamethasone. 10 cc.

    W/in a couple hours I could swallow and talk almost normally, and the pain due to my back had completely vanished.

    My new favorite drug.

    Either a NORAD drill went live (none / 0) (#33)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Jan 13, 2018 at 01:01:13 PM EST
    Or NORAD has been hacked

    Either answer is frightening

    ... out here this morning from the Hawaii Emergency Management Alert system. My phone rang in the wee hours, warning us of an incoming ballistic missile.

    Yes, that is of what I speak (none / 0) (#37)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Jan 13, 2018 at 01:54:52 PM EST
    Either answer is disturbing

    White House now claims it was a state controlled drill that went live. But reporting now claims this was no drill, someone "pushed the wrong button"? Sweet Jesus.


    Gov. Ige accepted blame on behalf of HEMA. (none / 0) (#39)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sat Jan 13, 2018 at 03:09:16 PM EST
    He said it was caused by human error during a shift change at the agency's facilities in Diamond Head crater. (Why our State civil defense was running a drill simultaneous to a shift change, I haven't a clue.) The alert was sent out at 8:07 a.m. HST, and the false alarm notice followed 20 minutes later. I still have them on my phone. Because USPACOM also received the initial alert, its own officials quickly notified HEMA that no incoming missile had been detected and to please stand down.

    I figured it was a glitch, because had it been real, our civil defense warning sirens would've sounded simultaneously, too. And those are so loud that there's no mistaking its piercing tone. One of those sirens is about two blocks away from our house. They're tested at 11:45 a.m. on the first business day of every month, and you really can't miss hearing it regardless of your locale, unless you're completely deaf.



    What's your plan if a real alert (none / 0) (#40)
    by oculus on Sat Jan 13, 2018 at 04:56:50 PM EST
    That a middle arrives in 20 min.?

    Honolulu, however, is a key military center. If a missile launch did occur, people would have no choice but to shelter in place as best they can. HEMA's worst case scenario if Honolulu is struck by a nuclear missile estimates that Oahu would immediately suffer about 18,000 dead and 200,000 wounded. This does NOT take into account casualties resulting from exposure to radiation.

    Regardless of the disaster, be it nuclear attack, hurricane or earthquake, it is recommended that each island household stash 14 days' worth of food and supplies, because given Hawaii's geographic remoteness, it will likely take up to two weeks for assistance to arrive in quantities sufficient enough to aid a state of 1.4 million residents, along with the 100,000-170,000 tourists who are in our islands on any given day.



    Scary sh!t (none / 0) (#41)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Jan 13, 2018 at 05:28:52 PM EST
    But maybe fortunate in that, just listening to a bit of the news conference, some carriers did not seem to send out the alert some sirens went off others did not and other glitches.  Which might get attention sonically works better.

    Gotta say those guys had a lot more patients with some of the dumbest questions I have ever heard than I would have had but that's probably why I am not in public relations.


    Gerrrr (none / 0) (#42)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Jan 13, 2018 at 05:30:17 PM EST
    Which might get attention SO IT ALL works better.

    Some Russian hacker got a raise, today, (none / 0) (#51)
    by leap on Sat Jan 13, 2018 at 08:37:33 PM EST
    after getting a rise out of Hawaiians. But surely, Hawaii was prepared.

    ... when the local Emergency Management Alert system sent out a false alarm over our cell phones and computers throughout the islands, warning us of an incoming ballistic missile and that we had 20 minutes to prepare and take cover.

    I figured it was a false alarm, because otherwise our warning sirens would've gone off, and those are so loud you can't miss them no matter where you are. They test the sirens monthly, so I know they work. HEMA officials notified everyone that it was a false alarm within 5 minutes of the notification.


    Feel better, J! (none / 0) (#36)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Sat Jan 13, 2018 at 01:28:42 PM EST
    I hope they gave you some deep breathing exercises to do. Just blowing up a balloon works well - although it really sucks at first, it does help your lungs.

    I got a lovely letter from work last week. I was told that if I didn't show up to work by the 5th, I would lose my job. Well, I showed up, run down and in no shape to be there and d@mned if I didn't catch the crud that very day. Soooo p!ssed off. Can't wait to see the looks when I tell them I'm retiring.

    Geez, I'm glad that I don't work.. (none / 0) (#38)
    by desertswine on Sat Jan 13, 2018 at 02:31:24 PM EST
    where you do.

    11 Weeks... (5.00 / 4) (#44)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Sat Jan 13, 2018 at 06:35:51 PM EST
    and I'll be glad I don't work there too!

    Congratulations (5.00 / 1) (#45)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Jan 13, 2018 at 07:09:36 PM EST
    Retirement is bliss.  

    Yeah... (none / 0) (#47)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Sat Jan 13, 2018 at 07:43:18 PM EST
    I got pretty used to not working during my medical leave - it is very addictive!

    It totally is (none / 0) (#48)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Jan 13, 2018 at 07:47:41 PM EST
    And I loved my work (none / 0) (#49)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Jan 13, 2018 at 07:48:17 PM EST
    Good for you... (none / 0) (#60)
    by desertswine on Sun Jan 14, 2018 at 02:32:06 PM EST
    Join the club...  I retired last year.

    It's like summer vacation... (none / 0) (#78)
    by desertswine on Mon Jan 15, 2018 at 11:43:35 AM EST
    every day.

    I WISH (none / 0) (#85)
    by jmacWA on Tue Jan 16, 2018 at 05:36:30 AM EST
    Not here in PA at least.  This time of year is for hibernating here.  I do miss the SW (Tucson) winters.

    Figuring to retire at the end of 2018, (none / 0) (#63)
    by Anne on Sun Jan 14, 2018 at 03:28:21 PM EST
    God and circumstances willing...I've just had enough.  I have young grandkids whose lives I could be more involved in, things I want to do around the house (not least just getting rid of a lot of the "stuff" that has accumulated over the years).  My mom's beginning some mental decline- she'll be 88 this year - so I suspect more of my time will be needed on that end, and I don't want to have to choose between work and family anymore.

    Not ruling out doing some part-time work - I think I will have opportunities to do that, but it will be my choice and I won't be yoked to a schedule.

    But a lot can happen in a year, so just trying to keep my head down and push forward.


    The best thing I ever did was ... (none / 0) (#68)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sun Jan 14, 2018 at 10:31:18 PM EST
    ... choose to work for myself, when my partner and I both decided that we'd both be far better off doing what we do on our own.

    We set our own hours, choose our own clients, and if either of us need to take extended time off, like I just did to assist our daughter with her new baby, we can do it without first obtaining prior concurrence from somebody else.

    I'm sure that with your skill level and knowledge, if you decided to pursue freelance work or go the independent contractor route, you'll do just fine. And like you noted, you're the one who'll be calling your own shots.



    THE JUNGLE BOOK (none / 0) (#43)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Jan 13, 2018 at 06:04:50 PM EST
    Seen this?  For whatever reason I had not.  Call it Disney aversion.
    But its very cold here.  Again.  And I ran across it on NETFLIX.  The effects work is stunning.  So much so you tend to forget none of it is real.  I know the VFX supervisor in that making of video.  Rob Legato.
     Well sort of.  Not like we are friends but I have worked with him several times.  Smart guy and great at what he does.

     But wow.  it really is amazing.
    Good way to spend a cold afternoon.

    The original children's book, by Kipling (none / 0) (#46)
    by Peter G on Sat Jan 13, 2018 at 07:38:22 PM EST
    was a favorite of mine in childhood.

    If you watch it (none / 0) (#50)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Jan 13, 2018 at 07:53:17 PM EST
    Stay for the closing credits.  They are the best I've ever seen.

    My wife and I almost always stay (none / 0) (#62)
    by Peter G on Sun Jan 14, 2018 at 02:42:36 PM EST
    for all the closing credits, on any movie we see. We like to appreciate all the varied skills and work that go into making a movie. Also often discover I've heard some interesting music that I didn't even notice as it went by (as I was not supposed to notice, usually). I think this has something to do with having a daughter who's a lighting designer, another important aspect of theater and film that contributes mightily, yet is generally meant (when done well) not to call attention to itself.  

    I always stay to find out (5.00 / 1) (#65)
    by oculus on Sun Jan 14, 2018 at 08:55:33 PM EST
    the locations and music info, including who performed.

    SNL does MORNING JOE (none / 0) (#53)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Jan 14, 2018 at 09:35:28 AM EST
    And OMG

    they got the cold open and it was COLD.

    And awsum.

    See it.  You need it.

    Link (5.00 / 1) (#56)
    by Yman on Sun Jan 14, 2018 at 10:01:29 AM EST
    It was pretty good.  Kate McKinnon does a great Mika.

    Unless I like the talent (none / 0) (#57)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Jan 14, 2018 at 10:42:50 AM EST
    I usually only watch the open and the news.  This week I watched Sam Rockwell.  But the news was also classic.

    Oops (none / 0) (#58)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Jan 14, 2018 at 10:48:30 AM EST
    Please define "cold open." (none / 0) (#66)
    by oculus on Sun Jan 14, 2018 at 08:56:25 PM EST
    Per Wikipedia: (5.00 / 1) (#67)
    by Anne on Sun Jan 14, 2018 at 09:43:25 PM EST
    It is the technique of jumping directly into a story at the beginning or opening of the show before the title sequence or opening credits are shown.

    So Perdue (none / 0) (#54)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Jan 14, 2018 at 09:38:01 AM EST
    Is now denying he said it.  This is just getting better and better.

    Perdue denied it and Rich Lowery said he didn't say shithold he said shithouse.  

    Seriously, that your defense?

    Andrew Young on MTP (none / 0) (#55)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Jan 14, 2018 at 09:58:16 AM EST
    Quoting Dr King -

    Nothing is more dangerous in the world than sincere ignorance and enthuastic stupidity.

    Remember, this is not who we are.  The arc of history bends toward justice.

    Have a stiff drink.  Or whatever it takes.  I heard 20 times on my Sunday Bobbelhead review that there is no question dems take the house.  It's just by how much.  And that Trumps honesty made it almost certain the dreamers will be protected.


    I take nothing for granted, (5.00 / 3) (#59)
    by caseyOR on Sun Jan 14, 2018 at 12:57:45 PM EST
    not even Dems winning control of the House in November. We need to be careful not to get cocky.

    One of my concerns is that we have done nothing to secure voting machines. I am unconvinced that Russian sabotage in the 2016 election did not include changing votes in certain areas.


    I agree with that. (none / 0) (#61)
    by desertswine on Sun Jan 14, 2018 at 02:34:13 PM EST
    i feel like you (none / 0) (#64)
    by Ga6thDem on Sun Jan 14, 2018 at 06:43:11 PM EST
    do. Republicans and Democrats alike said it was the first time the data had ever failed since it was first started being used 30 years ago.

    I remain unconvinced (none / 0) (#79)
    by jondee on Mon Jan 15, 2018 at 03:10:10 PM EST
    the people I hear people saying that the Dems are sure to take this and that are, I think, underestimating the perversity and masochism of people in this country.

    From what I've been reading, the uber-religious types, who always get out and vote, are more convinced than ever that Trump is a baby Christian/Mormon/staunch defender of the Greater Israel.


    the real point of this got lost (none / 0) (#70)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Jan 15, 2018 at 08:15:27 AM EST
    we now have senators of the same party calling each other liars on tv.

    this is new.  


    Even that fits into the mythology (none / 0) (#81)
    by jondee on Mon Jan 15, 2018 at 03:28:36 PM EST
    Trump came not to bring peace, but a sword. To separate the wheat from the chaff. To set brother against brother..

    When Fox's ratings plummet, I'll start believing there's hope looming on the horizen.


    we are getting our first real snow (none / 0) (#69)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Jan 15, 2018 at 08:13:41 AM EST
    a little came yesterday and it just started again with 1 or 2 inches expected.  thats the perfect amount of snow.

    i have everything i need.  food and recreational favors.  i even got my generatot from amazon last week.  but i wont need it this time unless its very different than predicted.

    looks like a day of white russians and NEXFLIX.

    White Russians. (none / 0) (#71)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Jan 15, 2018 at 08:40:30 AM EST
    Yum, tastes like ice cream. Generatot? Is that the name for a small generator?

    I like that (none / 0) (#72)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Jan 15, 2018 at 08:45:36 AM EST
    That is now it's name.  It is a small generator.  Just enough to run the fish tank and the cable box.

    My heat does not require electricity


    We have (none / 0) (#73)
    by Ga6thDem on Mon Jan 15, 2018 at 09:00:06 AM EST
    gas heat but I'm pretty sure ours requires electricity. My mother does not understand why I'm such a fan of natural gas but I have to say it has saved my bacon during quite a few storms most especially 2 days without power with a 5 week old baby.

    my furnace (none / 0) (#74)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Jan 15, 2018 at 09:08:50 AM EST
    requires power.  but i have another heater that does not that works so well and is so much cheaper to run i use it most of the time unless its sub zero.

    and i also have wood.


    My favorite (none / 0) (#75)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Jan 15, 2018 at 10:46:31 AM EST
    Winter drink

    Speaking of ice cream, (none / 0) (#96)
    by Zorba on Tue Jan 16, 2018 at 03:24:26 PM EST
    you can make a very nice White Russian or Black Russian milkshake if you have ice cream and a blender.  (And vodka, and  Khalua if you want a Black Russian.)
    Adult milkshakes.

    Speaking of ice cream, (none / 0) (#98)
    by oculus on Tue Jan 16, 2018 at 03:35:45 PM EST
    the examining physician deems DJT very healthy. Healthy enough for two terms.  Wish my MD would make such assurances.

    Done that (none / 0) (#100)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jan 16, 2018 at 04:06:45 PM EST
    Also what I call a white Russian is basically Khalua and milk.  With a little 1/2 &1/2.

    You should be watching (none / 0) (#87)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jan 16, 2018 at 10:12:17 AM EST
    The testimony of the "homeland security Secretary"


    Chicken and Dumplings (none / 0) (#88)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jan 16, 2018 at 10:17:12 AM EST
    Can't go outside time for comfort food.

    I am tired of polar vortex weather (none / 0) (#89)
    by Militarytracy on Tue Jan 16, 2018 at 11:56:17 AM EST
    That was quick. (5.00 / 1) (#90)
    by oculus on Tue Jan 16, 2018 at 01:46:16 PM EST
    I'm on my second polar vortex (none / 0) (#91)
    by Militarytracy on Tue Jan 16, 2018 at 02:18:55 PM EST
    That isn't common weather for this area. All the broken water mains are a testament to that. The polar vortex is what locks Nothern Wyoming and Montana in below zero weather for about 2 weeks in January.

    The polar vortex that was part of the bomb cyclone last week did something to vegetable grow houses in the Southeast. We have run out of cilantro and other fresh herbs in the grocery stores here now. The produce manager said it became too cold and killed off the produce in some greenhouses. Jalapenos too are suddenly difficult to find.

    I live in zone 7 though now, not Vermont or Montana zone 5.


    No cilantro? First world problems (none / 0) (#92)
    by CoralGables on Tue Jan 16, 2018 at 02:49:28 PM EST
    No Thai basil either (none / 0) (#93)
    by Militarytracy on Tue Jan 16, 2018 at 03:19:23 PM EST
    Get some seeds (none / 0) (#94)
    by Zorba on Tue Jan 16, 2018 at 03:21:08 PM EST
    and little pots and grow some herbs inside your house.

    We pulled the ice off the koi ponds (none / 0) (#97)
    by Militarytracy on Tue Jan 16, 2018 at 03:35:43 PM EST
    When it got a little warmer. Hopefully it won't freeze solud again. The landlord said he did kill them one winter when he left the pond frozen over during a cold spell. They are all still alive thankfully.

    I ordered some floating aquaponic planters for spring to put herbs in. By the time they can be harvested indoors now winter will be over.

    Gurneys will make first shipments here February 27, so not much longer.

    I can do without all the broken water mains though.


    Not to worry MT (none / 0) (#103)
    by Chuck0 on Tue Jan 16, 2018 at 05:58:41 PM EST
    It will be in the 50s by Saturday.

    I don't know (none / 0) (#104)
    by Ga6thDem on Tue Jan 16, 2018 at 06:30:13 PM EST
    if you would have gotten this polar vortex in Alabama considering you were a good bit south of us but we sure are getting it this year. Today when they announced snow I was like not again. I'm starting to feel like I have moved a couple of states further north this winter.

    I'd say (none / 0) (#95)
    by CST on Tue Jan 16, 2018 at 03:22:29 PM EST
    This is the number one reason that people give when they move to the south.

    Just imagine what Zone 5 and 6 must be like :)


    I used to live in a zone 4/5 (none / 0) (#99)
    by Militarytracy on Tue Jan 16, 2018 at 03:38:09 PM EST
    I lived there for 20 yrs. Spent the whole month of January below zero, batteries exploding in cars

    The last few winters here (none / 0) (#101)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jan 16, 2018 at 04:09:08 PM EST
    Have been very mild.  Last year I don't think it got below freezing all winter.  Flowers were blooming the first week of Feb.

    Not this year.


    The government will shut down (none / 0) (#102)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jan 16, 2018 at 04:16:58 PM EST
    The republicans will fold like a lawn chair.

    They will not screw the dreamers.

    have you seen this video of the father of two being deported?