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Trump Ends DREAMER's Program

This is so sad. Donald Trump announced the DREAMER's program created by President Obama through executive action will end.

Senior officials at the Department of Homeland Security said the agency would no longer accept new applications for DACA other than those submitted before Tuesday. Immigrants enrolled in the program will be permitted to continue until their two-year work permits expire. And those whose permits expire through March 5, 2018, are allowed to seek renewals provided they do so by Oct. 5, officials said.

Here is the actual announcement.

Obama took to his Facebook page today to call Trump's action cruel and an affront to basic decency. [More...]

Ultimately," Obama wrote, “this is about basic decency. This is about whether we are a people who kick hopeful young strivers out of America, or whether we treat them the way we’d want our own kids to be treated. It’s about who we are as a people — and who we want to be.”

Here is the original 2012 program memo, issued by then DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano.

More on Obama's DACA order here and here.

Who makes the decision that violent foreign cartel members get to stay in the U.S. after serving their sentence, often in witness protection but sometimes just roaming our streets? Doesn't that authorization begin with a request by DOJ, in exchange for the anticipated benefit it will receive in the form of testimony against another drug trafficker? How can AG Jeff Sessions claim that DOJ can't defend exercising prosecutorial discretion for DREAMERs not to be removed from the U.S. when it requests such relief for cooperating drug cartel members?

America should hang its head in shame at today's action. While predictable, it's inexcusable.

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    I've been hanging my head in shame since 11/9/16. (5.00 / 1) (#2)
    by Chuck0 on Wed Sep 06, 2017 at 02:05:49 PM EST
    "America should hang its head in shame at today's action. While predictable, it's inexcusable."

    There are hundreds of Dreamers (5.00 / 1) (#7)
    by fishcamp on Wed Sep 06, 2017 at 05:51:44 PM EST
    Here in the keys, probably thousands.  I know several from the boat docks and grocery store.  They are devastated.  Several churches are offering DACA sanctuary to them.  

    Sorry, hurricane jitters (5.00 / 3) (#8)
    by fishcamp on Wed Sep 06, 2017 at 05:53:31 PM EST
    never met a crisis they couldn't use (1.00 / 1) (#3)
    by thomas rogan on Wed Sep 06, 2017 at 02:58:00 PM EST
    Allowing a president to selectively not enforce immigration law was dubious anyway.
    Much easier to simply put the DACA people in front of the line to get green cards by a congressional law.  They have a better claim than a random person who is applying for a green card.  Or congress could pass an "amnesty law" for the current batch of DACA people, maybe coupled with a couple of billion of dollars for Trump's wall.
    At this point the Congressional Democrats are exploiting the DACA kids as much as anyone.

    Every President since my birth (none / 0) (#4)
    by Militarytracy on Wed Sep 06, 2017 at 04:41:22 PM EST
    Has selectively enforced immigration laws. Usually Republicans don't enforce it because their base wants cheap labor. Democrats semi enforce trying to avoid being called on it by Republicans.

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    President Obama's administration... (none / 0) (#15)
    by kdog on Thu Sep 07, 2017 at 10:07:28 AM EST
    did more than semi-enforce...they enforced the sh*t out of immigration law to the tune of 2.5 million immigration orders...more than every 20th Century presidential administration combined.  DACA was a shining silver lining on the darkest of storm clouds to rival Irma.

    If Trump really wants to be all things anti-Obama, he shoulda left DACA alone and put a leash on ICE.

    Parent

    Really? (none / 0) (#17)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Sep 07, 2017 at 12:54:59 PM EST
    Cuz DACA exists because of Obama. I think you've slipped a bit off the soapbox.

    Parent
    Understood... (none / 0) (#19)
    by kdog on Thu Sep 07, 2017 at 01:18:04 PM EST
    DACA exists because of Obama and a do-nothing Congress who could not/would not pass a DREAM Act, which the overwhelming majority of Americans support.

    I repeat, DACA was a shining silver lining on an otherwise very dark and stormy cloud that has immigration enforcement policy under Obama aka the former Deporter-N-Chief.  Just because DACA was good doesn't negate an otherwise awful record on the treatment of the undocumented, which would make Reagan look like a radical leftist.

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    The House passed the act (5.00 / 2) (#23)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Sep 07, 2017 at 03:04:40 PM EST
    Jeff Sessions killed it in the Senate

    Parent
    my thoughts (5.00 / 1) (#28)
    by linea on Thu Sep 07, 2017 at 07:49:23 PM EST
    i agree with much of your post. that the Dream Act should have been passed and that DACA was the only alternative given the inaction of congress.

    Obama aka the former Deporter-N-Chief

    however, i don't agree that president obama can be criticized for a total number count absent legitimate analysis that shows human-rights violations or civil-rights violations.

    my criticism of president obama, related to this issue, would be the continued use of roadside immigration checks within the u.s. border. they are intrinsically a civil-rights violation.

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    I'd take a rather liberal position... (none / 0) (#34)
    by kdog on Fri Sep 08, 2017 at 07:58:27 AM EST
    on what constitutes a human rights abuse, namely every detention and/or deportation of a human being lacking documents is an abuse of a basic human right to live and breathe free in my book....but I'm weird like that.  

    For a more conservative position, the documented abuses of human beings, especially women, in ICE detention centers is but one example.  Linkage

    Not to mention all the families broken over simple traffic stops and the like.  Just because the Dreamers are an obvious choice for sympathy and mercy doesn't mean all the other undocumented should be forgotten.

     

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    Dems in the Senate passed a version also (none / 0) (#25)
    by vicndabx on Thu Sep 07, 2017 at 05:02:24 PM EST
    And understand (none / 0) (#30)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Sep 07, 2017 at 08:54:00 PM EST
    Evil Alabama is going to elect Roy Moore in December. If Trump doesn't get DACA done by then Roy Moore will Jeff Sessions it.

    If Trump succeeds though, some day he will tweet that he chose to remove Sessions from the Senate so he could Constitutionally save the dreamers.

    Parent

    Whom did Obama admins. deport? (none / 0) (#20)
    by oculus on Thu Sep 07, 2017 at 02:12:03 PM EST
    I thought mostly people with felony convictions.  Must google.

    Parent
    Mostly people collared... (none / 0) (#21)
    by kdog on Thu Sep 07, 2017 at 02:50:09 PM EST
    within 100 miles of the border, fingerprinted and booked...not violent felons. If I'm not mistaken.

    Parent
    Per Snopes.com, (none / 0) (#22)
    by oculus on Thu Sep 07, 2017 at 02:52:21 PM EST
    the definition of Deportation" changed during the W admins. to include persons crossing illegally, who were returned mmed.  

    Parent
    In the mid-90s, Congress invented (none / 0) (#24)
    by Peter G on Thu Sep 07, 2017 at 04:25:35 PM EST
    the current legal concept of "removal," which covers both what was formerly called "deportation" (thrown out after getting into the U.S., but either having no right to be here in the first place or else losing that right) and what was formerly called "exclusion" (stopped at the border - or within the crazy 100-mile border "zone" - and not allowed in). I don't know whether the stats that back up the "deporter-in-chief" charge involve all "removals" (including exclusions) or only true deportations.

    Parent
    According to (none / 0) (#26)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Thu Sep 07, 2017 at 05:20:54 PM EST
    this

    Clinton deported (now officially labeled as "removed") about 850K, Bush about 2,000K, and Obama about 3,000K.

    Parent

    "Returns" are not included (none / 0) (#27)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Thu Sep 07, 2017 at 07:04:29 PM EST
    in the data above for "Removals."

    Apprehension: An action by immigration enforcement officers to take physical custody of a noncitizen.

    Deportation: A general, nontechnical term describing the movement of a noncitizen out of the United States through either a formal removal or a return.

    Removal: The compulsory movement of a noncitizen out of the United States based on a formal order of removal.

    Return: The movement of a noncitizen out of the United States based on permission to withdraw their application for admission at the border or an order of voluntary departure.



    Parent
    Facts (5.00 / 1) (#29)
    by Yman on Thu Sep 07, 2017 at 07:53:24 PM EST
    Were More People Deported Under the Obama Administration Than Any Other?

    A record number of people were "deported" from the U.S. during President Obama's tenure as president, due in large part to a change in definition.


    However, that statistic is somewhat misleading, as a significant portion of it was due to a change in the way "deportations" are defined that began during the Bush administration, not in the actual number of persons turned out of the U.S. As the Los Angeles Times noted, if not for that change in definition about what constitutes a "deportation," the Obama administration likely would not have been a record-setting one in this area:

         The number of people deported at or near the [U.S.-Mexico] border has gone up -- primarily as a result of changing who gets counted in the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency's deportation statistics.

        The vast majority of those border crossers would not have been treated as formal deportations under most previous administrations. If all removals were tallied, the total sent back to Mexico each year would have been far higher under those previous administrations than it is now.

        Until recent years, most people caught illegally crossing the southern border were simply bused back into Mexico in what officials called "voluntary returns," but which critics derisively termed "catch and release." Those removals, which during the 1990s reached more 1 million a year, were not counted in Immigration and Customs Enforcement's deportation statistics.

        Now, the vast majority of border crossers who are apprehended get fingerprinted and formally deported. The change began during the George W. Bush administration and accelerated under Obama. The policy stemmed in part from a desire to ensure that people who had crossed into the country illegally would have formal charges on their records.

        In the Obama years, all of the increase in deportations has involved people picked up within 100 miles of the border, most of whom [had] just