Tuesday Open Thread: Amazon Prime Day

Has anyone found any great deals on Amazon? I haven't so far. I'll be in a CLE (via webinar) this afternoon so I can't blog. They ask you questions periodically to make sure you are paying attention.

As for Don, Jr., the one thing I don't hold against him is hiring an experienced defense lawyer. The choice of a lawyer and who the lawyer has represented in the past has nothing to do with whether one is guilty -- everyone is presumed innocent. Everyone who finds themselves a "person of interest" a subject or a target of a federal grand jury investigation should retain the most experienced and knowledgeable attorney they can.

This is an open thread, all topics welcome.

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    That Amelia Earhart special... (5.00 / 1) (#1)
    by desertswine on Tue Jul 11, 2017 at 02:47:15 PM EST
    on the "History" Channel has already been discredited by a Japanese man who found the same Jaluit Atoll picture in a travelogue book in the Japanese National Library.  The travelogue was published in 1935, two years before Earhart's ill-fated flight.  The people in the photo couldn't possibly be Noonan and Earhart despite the "facial recognition" razzmatazz.  The blogger said it took him a half hour to find the picture. There is a link in this Guardian article to the 1935 travelogue volume.

    The "History" Channel has pulled this kind of crap in the past.  I remember one documentary in which they tried to pass off natural rock formations in South America as being carved by indigenous mysterious peoples.

    i have not seen this doc yet (5.00 / 1) (#3)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jul 11, 2017 at 03:37:42 PM EST
    i have no dog in this fight.

    but the kerfuffel here made me do some reading.  the most interesting source i found was TIGHAR.  
    They have their owh theories.

    reading around what struck me was everyone has their pet theory.  and everyone else is full of it.   i find this irritating.  the researcher at TIGHAR, who has hs own thing ongoing involving DNA and discovered remains, made an astute observation.

    paraphrasing because i dont want to find the quote again, 'even if we proved with DNA evidence what we think is true lots of people (including 'trained historians') would never accept it because they are so invested in their own pet theory'.

    i have no f-ing idea what happened to Amelia.  and neither does anyone else.  but i do know that doc included some very interesting documents and some eye witness testimony.  now, was that person lying? i dunno.  and neither does anyone else.  but there is a lot of stuff linked to the Marshall islands in this story.  

    so the photo was a wiff.  fine.  that actually only means the photo was a wiff.


    i do have to say (none / 0) (#4)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jul 11, 2017 at 03:43:10 PM EST
    its pretty remarkable they screwed that photo thing up so spectcularly.

    Well, I thought that it began to get (none / 0) (#9)
    by desertswine on Tue Jul 11, 2017 at 04:50:21 PM EST
    fishy when they wouldn't put a date on the photograph, labeling it only as pre-war.  But it had to be from 1937 or the whole premise of the show would be blown. I guess that just because the photo was a fraud doesn't mean that everything in the show was fake.  It doesn't dis-prove the theory that Earhart may have been a prisoner of the Japanese but certainly doesn't help their premise.

    History Channel ought to stick with what they're good at; Hitler and aliens.


    I love (none / 0) (#10)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jul 11, 2017 at 04:51:39 PM EST
    Ancient Aliens

    I do too. (none / 0) (#11)
    by desertswine on Tue Jul 11, 2017 at 05:06:37 PM EST
    every Friday I watch it as much as I can.  I like that Georgio guy.

    I watched it this morning (none / 0) (#25)
    by Militarytracy on Tue Jul 11, 2017 at 10:17:01 PM EST
    And I was poignantly reminded how badly we want to know what happened to them. I thought maybe we had great clues here too,but nope.

    LOL! Hate to say I told you so, but ... (5.00 / 1) (#18)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Tue Jul 11, 2017 at 07:22:47 PM EST
    ... I told you so. That prime-time special should definitely be counted against the Andy Warhol-allotted 15 minutes of everyone who was involved in producing what was a farce of a documentary. The Hysteria Channel just wasted two hours of people's lives last Sunday that they'll never get back.

    My cat named "Amy" (none / 0) (#12)
    by MKS on Tue Jul 11, 2017 at 05:14:18 PM EST
    I named her after Amelia Earhart because she was so fearless.....

    Man, that interesting story about Earhart did not last long.


    That site (none / 0) (#14)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jul 11, 2017 at 05:27:14 PM EST
    I linked is pretty interesting.  And very extensive.

    Outlandish from the get go. (none / 0) (#16)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Tue Jul 11, 2017 at 06:06:40 PM EST
    Oh well back to the drawing board (none / 0) (#29)
    by ruffian on Wed Jul 12, 2017 at 05:22:16 AM EST
    Maybe literally.

    HEY (none / 0) (#60)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Jul 12, 2017 at 05:18:12 PM EST
    you know what happens in 4 days and 2.5 hours?

    i betcha doooooo


    You mean 3 days, 10 hours 13 Mins? (none / 0) (#83)
    by ruffian on Thu Jul 13, 2017 at 09:41:36 AM EST

    In addition to the backlash (5.00 / 1) (#5)
    by KeysDan on Tue Jul 11, 2017 at 04:26:54 PM EST
    by state election officials, the Trump Administration has been hit by several lawsuits that accused it of violating federal privacy laws and illegally operating in secret. The Advisory Committee on Election Integrity, spearheaded by Kris Kobach, has a mission to look at flaws in federal voting systems that encourage fraud.

    Advocacy groups and others have called the Committee, topically, a Potemkin Village. intended to validate Trump's delusion that millions of illegal ballots caused him to loss the popular vote.  And, to lay the groundwork for legislation to suppress opposition to Republican candidates.

    The advocacy group, Public Citizen, argues that the commission is violating the federal Privacy Act by designating the US Army to collect data on voter's registrations and voting histories as well as other identifying data such as partial SS numbers and birth dates.

    No state has complied fully with the entire request, either just declining, or because specific state laws may not permit release of some personal information.

    Good Lordt (none / 0) (#31)
    by Militarytracy on Wed Jul 12, 2017 at 06:55:57 AM EST
    Certainly there aren't hackers hovering around the portal of that US Army website, sucking up anything uploaded that didn't have the certification to gain encryption. I mean why? Who? What hackers would be drawn to such a portal?

    If you are an ArKansas voter though, all your personal information was stolen by SEVERAL entities. Not even just Russia...maybe even Mexicans and black people!


    Jr's defense attorney graduated (5.00 / 2) (#15)
    by oculus on Tue Jul 11, 2017 at 05:55:52 PM EST
    from Juilliard.  Bass trombone.

    I like him even better (5.00 / 1) (#19)
    by Peter G on Tue Jul 11, 2017 at 07:55:00 PM EST
    for that.

    Me too. (5.00 / 2) (#23)
    by oculus on Tue Jul 11, 2017 at 08:51:41 PM EST
    I actually co-counseled a case (none / 0) (#20)
    by Peter G on Tue Jul 11, 2017 at 08:02:33 PM EST
    with Alan Futerfas (pron. "FOO-ter-fahss") some years ago. Good guy; good lawyer. Good choice.

    ... given that Donald Jr. may have already incriminated himself. Maybe Mr. Futerfas can plead mitigating circumstances, i.e., Junior was punching way above his weight class, and is a 25-watt bulb screwed into a 100-watt lamp.

    He has quite a bit of experience (5.00 / 1) (#26)
    by Peter G on Tue Jul 11, 2017 at 10:25:57 PM EST
    with clients who acquired positions of power through consanguinity rather than by acing an intelligence test, in enterprises that too often value loyalty over sound, independent judgment.

    And there's my TL look it up (5.00 / 2) (#33)
    by Militarytracy on Wed Jul 12, 2017 at 07:12:25 AM EST
    And use it 5 times in a sentence word of the day:  consanguinity

    The last one oculus threw down:  seriatim


    Please do not attempt to use the term (5.00 / 4) (#36)
    by Peter G on Wed Jul 12, 2017 at 08:24:40 AM EST
    "consanguinity" unless (a) you are a lawyer writing a will; or (b) you are writing a snarky or ironic blog comment.

    or (none / 0) (#37)
    by FlJoe on Wed Jul 12, 2017 at 08:54:22 AM EST
    The highway is for gamblers, better use your sanity
    Take what you have gathered from consanguinity

    Apologies to Bob


    ... certain people I used to work with in government, who were left to wonder exactly what it was that I said and meant.

    Do not forget "consanguinity" (none / 0) (#71)
    by oculus on Thu Jul 13, 2017 at 01:20:14 AM EST
    and "affinity" as important terms in the realm or corporate tax law.


    Not aware of that (none / 0) (#98)
    by Peter G on Thu Jul 13, 2017 at 03:20:29 PM EST
    How so?

    I have a recollection of a graphic showing degrees (none / 0) (#117)
    by oculus on Fri Jul 14, 2017 at 12:52:53 AM EST
    of consanguinity.  But that is the fourse that dissuaded me from becoming a tax lawyer n

    Sounds more like "trusts and estates" (none / 0) (#124)
    by Peter G on Fri Jul 14, 2017 at 11:51:33 AM EST
    to me than it does like corporate tax. I can't think what "consanguinity" would have to do with taxes at all, much less corporate tax.

    Are you saying... (none / 0) (#27)
    by desertswine on Tue Jul 11, 2017 at 11:15:52 PM EST
    he's a mob lawyer?  That's what the news said.

    Well, let me clarify... (5.00 / 1) (#28)
    by desertswine on Tue Jul 11, 2017 at 11:25:45 PM EST
    they said he was well known for representing certain New York crime families, not that there's anything wrong with that.

    Quit dehumanizing him :) (none / 0) (#32)
    by Militarytracy on Wed Jul 12, 2017 at 07:06:55 AM EST
    speaking of TV... (5.00 / 1) (#39)
    by Jeralyn on Wed Jul 12, 2017 at 10:36:36 AM EST
    States of Undress on Viceland with Hailey Gates is really interesting this season. This week she went to Thailand and covered a trans-gender beauty pageant. She got really friendly with some of the girls (called Lady Boys in Thailand.) There are 8 types. One of the most popular now are "Toms" who dress like Tomboys and have fashion stores dedicated to their clothing. Anyway, the episode reminded me of that Netflix Swedish series I recommended a while back 20 degrees in February. One of the intersecting stories is about a Swedish guy who falls in love with a Thai "LadyBoy" not knowing she's trans-gender. The episode was largely about the discrimination they still face, although less in Thailand than other parts of the world.

    i never assumed this (none / 0) (#103)
    by linea on Thu Jul 13, 2017 at 06:52:03 PM EST
    (i'll watch the Netflix Swedish series.)

    i never assumed the "ladyboy" sex-workers in thailand were either transgender or gay. i assumed most were not, actually.


    So, the new talking point when asked (5.00 / 1) (#59)
    by Anne on Wed Jul 12, 2017 at 05:05:10 PM EST
    about the Russia stuff is to fire back about the Clintons - listened to Sara Huckabee Sanders riff on that in the daily briefing today...Bill Clinton was paid $500K to give a speech in Russia, Hillary gave away uranium rights when she was SoS, the Clinton Foundation...no one paid much attention to it (but she was breathless delivering it).

    But I think this is going to be the counterpunch, and I think it's going to miss by a mile with everyone but Trump supporters...


    But their own supporters have been ... (none / 0) (#66)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Wed Jul 12, 2017 at 08:21:15 PM EST
    ... the only ones the Trump people ever talk to anymore, anyway. Being President of the Republicans only isn't a good way to broaden support. And now, with these latest revelations about Russian connections, they'll be lucky if they don't start hemorrhaging that support. They've been caught in one helluva whopper here.

    new probationary falimy member (5.00 / 2) (#62)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Jul 12, 2017 at 05:38:04 PM EST

    or maybe Mutt.  i havent decided.

    i stopped in my vet this morning to pick the drugs.  damn dogs meds cost way more per month than mine.

    anyway,  Bob was being dropped off for boarding.  apparently he was a stray who showed up in this guys yard.  he tried to keep him but the dog has major separation anxiety and the guy works.  so it wasnt working out.  he was destructive when left along so he had been giving him some kind anti anxiety drug that had the poor little guy totally stoned.  So he brought him to the vet to get all his shots and try to find him a home.

    a.  this sounds like something i would do.  i was really moved by the guys efforts.
    b.  i thought it was to strange that i walked in at the exact moment to hear this.
    c.  we seemed to hit it off instantly.  i felt called.

    we started talking and agreed i would take him and see how it went with the understanding i could bring him back if it did not work out.

    so hes been here for a few hours.  hes fine with the other dogs and its all good so far.  but he is just beginning to sober up enough to know where he is.

    i have a kennel/cage big enough for my dogs to stick him in when i go out and cant take him.  he is very cute.  i am optimistic.

    What kind of dog? (none / 0) (#68)
    by Chuck0 on Wed Jul 12, 2017 at 08:52:29 PM EST
    Big? Little? Medium? I'm envious. Had to put my black lab, Napoleon, to sleep in March. He had developed a growth in his abdomen. I miss him terribly. Coming home from work just isn't the same anymore. He was cool, laid back and gentle as a lamb.

    very sorry (5.00 / 2) (#69)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Jul 12, 2017 at 09:03:37 PM EST
    he is medium small.  he is a mutt.  my one worry is i he can get thru my fence if he wants,  which is a big dig fence.  and he is clearly part terrier.

    watch your butt Groucho.

    all my dags are rescue dogs.  always.  

    take a walk thru a local shelter.  you will find a new buddy who needs you.


    Napoleon came from the local SPCA (5.00 / 1) (#70)
    by Chuck0 on Wed Jul 12, 2017 at 09:46:49 PM EST
    They are just a few blocks from my house.

    ive only ever gotten one dog (none / 0) (#78)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jul 13, 2017 at 06:22:23 AM EST
    from a shelter.  i always seem to find them other ways.  like above.  im a dog magnet.

    my problem with going to a shelter is i need supervision to leave with just one.


    Some things that worked with me for Olaf (none / 0) (#74)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Jul 13, 2017 at 03:42:33 AM EST
    Are a fan blowing on him lightly when crated, and alternating radio with complet quiet on different days when crated. I still left him out when I went to the store a few days ago and he dragged the garbage can all over the house. Nothing really destructive, just annoying. And he has IBS right now from the stress of moving, poor guy. But he's hanging in there.

    thanks (none / 0) (#77)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jul 13, 2017 at 06:18:40 AM EST
    little experience with this.

    the little guy seems totally fine.  i let him sleep with me.  a first in my house and not a long term plan. i tossed him off the bed last night.  he whined a couple of times and curled up on my clothes.

    'ok fine! come on"

     but this morning, unmedicated, hes doin fine.

    he is my shadow.  


    Awww (none / 0) (#81)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Jul 13, 2017 at 08:41:02 AM EST
    aw, that is so great (none / 0) (#84)
    by ruffian on Thu Jul 13, 2017 at 09:43:31 AM EST
    Congrats to you both. He is a lucky doggo!!!

    Chuck0, sorry to hear this too. (none / 0) (#79)
    by fishcamp on Thu Jul 13, 2017 at 07:24:39 AM EST
    Today I'm taking my 18 yr old calico cat in to be euthanized.  She has an enlarged liver with a tumor on it.  She's lost control of everything, doesn't know where she is, and can't eat.  I found her under a bush after first moving down here and she has been a wonderful friend over the years.  Very sad.

    Such a sad day (5.00 / 1) (#85)
    by ruffian on Thu Jul 13, 2017 at 09:47:35 AM EST
    when we have to let our best friends go. Peace to you fishcamp! I'm sure you gave her a wonderful home.

    Our vet said something wonderful ... (5.00 / 2) (#97)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Thu Jul 13, 2017 at 02:41:33 PM EST
    ... and soothing to me once, when I had asked her what she would do with an elderly cat (mine) who was very sickly with kidney failure and clearly not going to get any better.

    "The difference between human beings and our pets," she replied, "is that we don't have to allow our furry friends to suffer unnecessarily."

    It's not easy to say goodbye to a longtime and trusted four-legged companion. But it's a lot harder to watch her struggle and deteriorate. What you're doing for your cat today, my friend, is a selfless act of love. Don't ever forget that.

    You'll be in my thoughts today. Take care.

    Me ke aloha pumehana.


    Yes, exactly, (none / 0) (#109)
    by Zorba on Thu Jul 13, 2017 at 07:20:51 PM EST
    Donald, your vet was correct.
    Mr. Zorba has long maintained something very similar.  He has always said that we treat our pets better than we treat our humans.

    Very sorry (5.00 / 2) (#116)
    by Lora on Thu Jul 13, 2017 at 09:28:07 PM EST
    When I finally brought my elderly cat in for his last visit, my vet said, "How much more can he give?" Somehow, that comforted me, to think my kitty gave all he could and now it was time for him to rest.

    is so hard (none / 0) (#80)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jul 13, 2017 at 07:52:04 AM EST
    i recently had to put one of my Huskies down.  she had some kind of terrible foot disease.  got so so couldnt walk at all.

    when they are suffering we have to be strong.

    sorry fish.


    Sorry about your cat... (none / 0) (#86)
    by desertswine on Thu Jul 13, 2017 at 10:05:30 AM EST
    I know what great friends they can be.

    Sorry fishcamp (none / 0) (#87)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Jul 13, 2017 at 10:27:59 AM EST
    Really sorry to hear this fishcamp. (none / 0) (#91)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Thu Jul 13, 2017 at 10:59:49 AM EST
    So very sorry (none / 0) (#94)
    by Zorba on Thu Jul 13, 2017 at 11:24:04 AM EST
    About your kitty, fishcamp.
    It's the part of having a pet that I really don't like, but we love them and we cannot allow them to suffer.  It's the last thing that we can do for our furry friends.

    Oh, fishcamp, I am so sorry about (none / 0) (#96)
    by caseyOR on Thu Jul 13, 2017 at 12:00:12 PM EST
    your cat. Pets can bring so much happiness to our lives. We love them (who knows if they love us?) and when they die it leaves a hole in our hearts and lives.

    Thank you all for your (none / 0) (#105)
    by fishcamp on Thu Jul 13, 2017 at 07:03:49 PM EST
    Kind words regarding the passing of my cat.  My younger cat is sad too and looking all around for her.  They know.

    Oh I know how my dogs looked for their (none / 0) (#112)
    by ruffian on Thu Jul 13, 2017 at 07:48:41 PM EST
    buddies too. It was a little insulting though, they moved on pretty quick. Like, ok, I get that he's gone. Throw me this ball.

    One of my friends had 2 cats that were brothers that lived to be 21 and 22 years old. When the first one died, the other got much more lively, like he had been downtrodden his whole life.

    Animals !


    When I had Daisy put down (none / 0) (#114)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jul 13, 2017 at 07:56:49 PM EST
    I took her and came back without her.  They noticed.  Especially Ghost.  They had been together, a matched pair, for many years.

    The sort of heart breaking thing was I had to take Bo, the golden, to the dog groomer a  couple of days later.  

    Ghost went absolutely nuts.  Running back and forth barking and scratching at the door.  Which was so totally unlike him.  He had never ever done anything like that.  He is the most mellow dog ever.  Never barks or gets upset.   It was so sad.  I ended up taking him with us to the groomer.  Where he had been many times.  He seemed to calm down when we got there.


    When my golden Ruffian passed a few years ago (none / 0) (#121)
    by ruffian on Fri Jul 14, 2017 at 08:21:13 AM EST
    other golden Ocli went around looking for him, and barked in the yard one night. It was heartbreaking. Then he was ok for a few days until he got on one of the dog beds and sniffed it and looked up at me with this surprised look, like - wait a minute where is that other dog? That killed me.  But then he seemed to settle down.  

    Then I got the current golden Ginger about a year later and he liked playing with her up to a point, and they were a good pair for those few years. But I honestly did not see Ginger spend much time mourning when Ocli passed last year. I don't think goldens 'do sad'. She is very attached to me, but then again she loves other people too.  She's 10 and blind now and would be hard to adopt out if anything happened to me, so she better be nice!


    Always tough when a pet passes. (none / 0) (#123)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Fri Jul 14, 2017 at 11:13:39 AM EST
    We are trying to get ourselves prepared as our Dane is now 11 years old.

    Fishcamp, so sorry (none / 0) (#128)
    by KeysDan on Sat Jul 15, 2017 at 11:41:41 AM EST
    to learn of your kitty.  Pets bring so much joy; we lost our little Eve last September-- a rescue from Hurricane Wilma...people were just abandoning their pets on the streets, Eve was put her over the fence and we lucked out.  Still miss her dearly, despite we got an absolutely wonderful kitty from a shelter. Not a replacement, but a new addition. Another lucky find.  After a bit, you may find another kitty.. I found that does help.

    The good old days (5.00 / 1) (#82)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Jul 13, 2017 at 08:46:29 AM EST
    When news wasn't clogged up with the pomp and circumstance of every global visit Obama made, cameras waiting for the next dickish or stupid act our President would do next.

    Someone tell me that this is a joke... (5.00 / 1) (#125)
    by desertswine on Fri Jul 14, 2017 at 01:54:05 PM EST
    "One of the things with the wall is, you need transparency," Trump said. "You have to be able to see through it. In other words, if you can't see through the wall--so it could be a steel wall with openings, but you have to have openings because you have to see what's on the other side of the wall."

    "And I'll give you an example. As horrible as it sounds, when they throw the large sacks of drugs over, and if you have people on the other side of the wall, you don't see them--they hit you in the head with 60 pounds of stuff? It's over," Trump said. "As crazy as that sounds, you need transparency through that wall."

    "transparency" (none / 0) (#126)
    by CaptHowdy on Fri Jul 14, 2017 at 03:04:30 PM EST
    in the Trump administration would mean they should be able to see through the bars.

    Travel Ban 2.0 back in the news (5.00 / 1) (#127)
    by Peter G on Sat Jul 15, 2017 at 11:36:15 AM EST
    Judge Watson in Hawaii, with guidance from the Ninth Circuit, has sensibly concluded that he has no authority to "clarify" the Supreme Court's modification of the temporary injunction, but he does have authority to "enforce" the Supreme Court's order, including by striking down the government's unduly narrow reading of that order (26-page PDF).  See the difference? (If not, maybe you're not "thinking like a lawyer." ;) ) The Administration on Friday appealed that decision to the Supreme Court. Things remain interesting (to me, anyway) on this topic.

    deep thoughts (5.00 / 1) (#129)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Jul 15, 2017 at 04:14:19 PM EST
    "Consider yourself. I want you to imagine a scene from your childhood. Pick something evocative... Something you can remember clearly, something you can see, feel, maybe even smell, as if you were really there. After all, you really were there at the time, weren't you? How else would you remember it? But here is the bombshell: you WEREN'T there. Not a single atom that is in your body today was there when that event took place. Every bit of you has been replaced many times over... The point is that you are like a cloud: something that persists over long periods, whilst simultaneously being in flux. Matter flows from place to place and momentarily comes together to be you. Whatever you are, therefore, you are not the stuff of which you are made."

    ~ Steve Grand, Creation: Life and How to make it

    Deep Thought... (5.00 / 1) (#130)
    by desertswine on Sun Jul 16, 2017 at 04:22:53 PM EST
    Rush to judgement in Venus Williams (none / 0) (#2)
    by McBain on Tue Jul 11, 2017 at 03:10:46 PM EST
    fatal car accident.
    In their crash report, Palm Beach Gardens police listed Williams as "at fault" in the June 9 wreck. But on Friday, citing surveillance video, police said the tennis star "lawfully entered" the intersection where the crash happened....
    ... Palm Beach Gardens Police Maj. Paul Rogers said the agency still hasn't determined who's at fault

    Even if she doesn't face criminal charges, Williams might have to deal with a wrongful death civil suit.  I haven't followed this case very closely... the initial buzz I heard was she was at fault, now I'm hearing someone else hit her car causing a chain reaction.  

    I don't hear about this one (none / 0) (#30)
    by ruffian on Wed Jul 12, 2017 at 05:31:03 AM EST
    The article says she entered the intersection on the green light, then had to stop momentarily when someone cut her off. So possibly she was still in the intersection when the light was red. Then she got t-boned by the car with the driver that died, who may have had a green light by that time.

    I think in circumstances where she had not been forced by the cut-off driver to still be in the intersection when the light turned red, she would be at fault for still being in the intersection when the t-bone driver entered it. But if she had to either stop or hit the other guy, it is hard to see where she is at fault. Also the t-bone driver should not enter the intersection of it is not clear.

    In short, good luck with that lawsuit.


    My son is a high quality person (none / 0) (#6)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jul 11, 2017 at 04:30:23 PM EST

    Was there ever a more profound expression of familial commitment?

    "My son is a high-quality person and I applaud his transparency," Trump said in a brief statement read to reporters by White House spokeswoman Sarah Sanders.

    "high quality" (5.00 / 1) (#7)
    by KeysDan on Tue Jul 11, 2017 at 04:45:31 PM EST
    was the description he gave to Trump steaks, Trump wine, and Trump University.  Not good, for jr.

    This made me laugh (none / 0) (#8)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jul 11, 2017 at 04:50:17 PM EST
    Reminds me of the "breathtaking" (none / 0) (#21)
    by Anne on Tue Jul 11, 2017 at 08:10:03 PM EST
    episode from Seinfeld.

    Really one of the best Seinfeld episodes: George and his "shrinkage" problem, the ugly baby, Hampton tomatoes, and "Yo Yo Ma...Boutos Boutros Ghali"


    I wish I aged... (none / 0) (#35)
    by kdog on Wed Jul 12, 2017 at 08:21:48 AM EST
    like Julia Louis-Dreyfus.

    Classis episode...don't forget Kramer's lobster poaching!


    Speaking of lobster poaching kdog (none / 0) (#49)
    by fishcamp on Wed Jul 12, 2017 at 03:05:39 PM EST
    They caught four divers spearing (illegal) undersized lobsters near my house.  They had 129 and most were shorts.  They also had undersized mangrove and mutton snapper in their cooler.  They broke over 100 Federal, state, and county rules.since lobster are out of season.  People get away with it all the time down here.  No dive flag is what alerted the FWC ( Florida Wildlife Control ), and then they had joints in their unregistered car and I'm not sure what else.  Very stupid.  

    Public resources/property. Not cool. (none / 0) (#50)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Wed Jul 12, 2017 at 03:10:53 PM EST
    Didn't even know... (none / 0) (#51)
    by kdog on Wed Jul 12, 2017 at 03:19:24 PM EST
    you had lobster down in the warm waters.  Though you won't much longer if the poachers keep killing babies.

    The joints and lack of registration I'll give the knuckleheads a pass on...just don't f*ck with fishcamp's beloved waters;)


    Lobsters are widespread, kdog. (none / 0) (#53)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Wed Jul 12, 2017 at 03:49:28 PM EST
    We have both spiny and slipper lobsters here in Hawaii, although technically, both are not actually real lobsters like you have in the northeast, though they're obviously related. True lobsters have claws. (Personally, I think the slipper lobster is the most tasty of the crustaceans.) The animals are legally embargoed from hunting and capture in Hawaiian waters between June and September because this is their breeding season. The fines for taking them out of season are actually pretty hefty, and other potential penalties include jail time.

    Donald that is correct (5.00 / 1) (#57)
    by fishcamp on Wed Jul 12, 2017 at 04:29:09 PM EST
    our lobsters are actually named in the book as 'crayfish'.  They are very tasty.  Most people say the Maine lobsters are much sweeter and better.  I've actually performed blindfold tests, so to speak, with both types of lobsters, and it was impossible to tell the difference after the first bite.  Or was it after the first boat drink.  

    Interesting that lobsters (none / 0) (#89)
    by jondee on Thu Jul 13, 2017 at 10:52:59 AM EST
    were considered the junk food of the colonial era. Only considered fit for indentured servants and prisoners..

    The rubber band is the only thing that stands between the lobsters and world domination.


    We're takin' it up a notch! (none / 0) (#46)
    by jondee on Wed Jul 12, 2017 at 01:21:37 PM EST
    Don Jr. (none / 0) (#13)
    by MKS on Tue Jul 11, 2017 at 05:15:55 PM EST
    served up, royally scr*wed.

    Christopher Wray (none / 0) (#17)
    by CaptHowdy on Tue Jul 11, 2017 at 06:31:57 PM EST
    FBI director nominee testifies tomorrow morning

    That just got more interesting

    this went surprisingly well (none / 0) (#54)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Jul 12, 2017 at 04:01:20 PM EST
    the guy will sail through.  i have to say i was fairly impressed with what i have seen.  i recorded it and scanned.

    Thanks for the reporting. (none / 0) (#55)
    by KeysDan on Wed Jul 12, 2017 at 04:25:37 PM EST
    Unable to watch, and forgot to record.  Probably reports tonight (Chris Hayes, Rachel, Lawrence). Did hear of Lindsey bearing down for an answer.

    Word to Big Island visitors: (none / 0) (#22)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Tue Jul 11, 2017 at 08:34:23 PM EST
    Being on vacation does not render you omnipotent. If you visit Hawaii Volcanoes National Park here in east Hawaii, which is Ground Zero of the world's most active volcanic rift one, please pay attention to the directions from park rangers and for heaven's sake, stay on the trails. Yes, the park is beautiful. But it can also be unforgiving and dangerous to those who won't abide by its rules, or simply take leave of their own common sense.  

    California man found dead on Kilauea volcano in Hawaii in apparent suicide

    That NY Daily News article is incorrect ... (5.00 / 1) (#52)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Wed Jul 12, 2017 at 03:33:51 PM EST
    ... in one respect. Kilauea didn't last erupt in August 2016. The volcano has actually been in a continually eruptive state for 34 straight years, since January 3, 1983. Further, this eruption has been occurring in both the main crater at Halema'uma'u and several other locales along the volcano's east rift zone, particularly at Pu'u O'o.

    When I first moved here 30 years ago, Pu'u O'o was a half-mile long gash in the land that was spewing lava that ultimately buried the small town of Kalapana. It's now a 1,000+ ft. cinder cone that in comparison is actually taller than the famous Waikiki landmark of Diamond Head, which itself is an ancient cinder cone that was one of the vents of the massive Ko'olau volcano which formed east O'ahu.

    The U.S. Geological Survey, which closely monitors our island's volcanoes for obvious reasons, has a number of live webcams located in the more active locales, along with other webcams used to monitor Kilauea's much larger neighbor, Mauna Loa, which is the largest single volcano and mountain by mass and bulk in the world and comprises well over half our island. (Mauna Loa of late has also been showing signs of stirring from its slumber, having last erupted in April 1984.) Some of the Kilauea webcams are actually quite spectacular at night, when the red glow of the lava can easily be seen.

    If you have a chance, I would urge you and your family to come out and see Kilauea in action. It is one of the few volcanoes in the world where eruptions can be readily viewed by the public, and you definitely won't be disappointed.



    and I have also seen Volcán de Fuego in Guatemala up close and personal.

    As there were no restrictions at Fuego, in fact it was simply there for whoever felt the urge to climb it, and down in it, we 20somethings definitely took our lives into our own hands...


    I've seen that Guatamalan volcano ... (none / 0) (#67)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Wed Jul 12, 2017 at 08:36:32 PM EST
    ... from a distance, but never up close. Our volcanoes out here are of the shield variety, and are not explosive. They just so happen to pump out rather prodigious amounts of lava in successive layers, which is why they're so much bigger in size and bulk than other volcanoes around the world.

    Mauna Loa is so massive that the astronauts can clearly see its caldera from space, along with its last few dozen eruptive flows, which are in black.

    (Our hometown of Hilo is at the apex of the bay at the top of the photo; Kona is on the opposite side of the island. The white smoky plume you see to the immediate right of Mauna Loa is emanating from Kilauea's Halema'uma'u Crater.)



    Wow. It was not dormant when I was there, (none / 0) (#90)
    by sarcastic unnamed one on Thu Jul 13, 2017 at 10:58:27 AM EST
    but not nearly that active either.

    I saw that in this morning's paper. (none / 0) (#48)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Wed Jul 12, 2017 at 03:04:27 PM EST
    According to the Hilo Tribune-Herald this morning, park rangers had found his backpack with a suicide note, which they turned over to the county coroner's office. But that office withheld further information about the incident from the public until the deceased's next of kin in California could be notified, which was the right thing to do. Nobody should ever have to learn about the death of a loved one from the media.

    We have fresh Trump fiasco (none / 0) (#34)
    by Militarytracy on Wed Jul 12, 2017 at 08:21:19 AM EST
    Will Republicans get Obamacare repealed and replaced?

    I don't know about Prime Day... (none / 0) (#38)
    by kdog on Wed Jul 12, 2017 at 10:02:35 AM EST
    no discount on Whip-Its that I saw.  Best thing running on Amazon right now is the Grateful Dead miniseries doc Long Strange Trip...caught the first two installments so far and it's fantastically done. An entertaining & informative look at the history of America's house band.

    I forgot all about it (none / 0) (#40)
    by Jeralyn on Wed Jul 12, 2017 at 10:37:46 AM EST
    after I checked early in the day and saw nothing that seemed like a big discount on anything I would want. I like Black Friday better.

    I think I loathe shopping... (5.00 / 1) (#41)
    by kdog on Wed Jul 12, 2017 at 11:05:42 AM EST
    too much to like any "deal" day.  Exception being grocery shopping...I've become quite the frugal deal hound at the supermarket.  4 twelve packs of Coco-Cola for 8.88 cents last week and I felt excited like I hit an exacta at Belmont;)

    Jeff Flake...heavy on the flake (none / 0) (#43)
    by Militarytracy on Wed Jul 12, 2017 at 12:26:36 PM EST
    Is worried about prospective border agents getting "false positives" on their interview polygraph. CBP has the highest hiring polygraph failure rate of any law enforcement agency, 65%. Mr. Flake thinks the FBI has a better polygraph hiring practice? Really?

    But he wants a potential FBI director Wray to give CBP some guidance in this area or some such whatever.

    Who knew the FBI was so loose about prospective agents failing their hire polygraph?

    Or how about asking him whether (5.00 / 2) (#44)
    by Peter G on Wed Jul 12, 2017 at 12:34:39 PM EST
    he is aware the polygraphy is basically junk science.

    According to Mr Flake (5.00 / 2) (#45)
    by Militarytracy on Wed Jul 12, 2017 at 01:01:39 PM EST
    Prospective border agents fear "a false positive" so they don't apply. Why would they fear that? That doesn't make any sense to me Peter. Why would prospective border agents fear such a thing more than a prospective FBI agent?

    What science is his statement based on though?

    I have my own beliefs about why potential border agent hires fail more often than any other potential LEO hires right now. First, many aren't inspired by the law they inspired by racism. And they stand a good chance of failing that test because they have unlawful acts to hide.


    Yeah....putting aside the validity of the (none / 0) (#56)
    by ruffian on Wed Jul 12, 2017 at 04:26:51 PM EST
    test as a screening practice, I think they fear real positives more than false positives.

    Surprised me to learn Border Patrol (none / 0) (#73)
    by oculus on Thu Jul 13, 2017 at 01:31:18 AM EST
    wouldn't hire people who didn't pass polygraph test.

    I knew they having difficulty (none / 0) (#88)
    by Militarytracy on Thu Jul 13, 2017 at 10:36:38 AM EST
    With corruption and use of excessive force and the Obama administration was attempting to address that. But new administration, let's roll it all back.

    My question is (none / 0) (#92)
    by jondee on Thu Jul 13, 2017 at 11:13:01 AM EST
    who makes those divining rod/rainmaking polygraph contraptions, and just exactly how many friends and lobbyists in high places do they have?

    Quite a few, it seems like.


    today GOOGLE doodle (none / 0) (#63)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Jul 12, 2017 at 06:26:09 PM EST
    is worth full screening

    it notes what would have been the 79th birthday of Eiko Isioka

    maybe the greatest costume designer ever.  if you have never seen the file THE FALL (the movie not the series), you really should.  its worth seeing jut for the costumes.  but the whole thing is just visually stunning.  its director Tarsem Singh who also did THE CELL which also had costumes by Isioka.

    and yes (none / 0) (#64)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Jul 12, 2017 at 06:30:15 PM EST
    i spelled her name wrong



    THE FALL (none / 0) (#65)
    by CaptHowdy on Wed Jul 12, 2017 at 07:09:38 PM EST
    Oh my gawd. I immediately (none / 0) (#72)
    by oculus on Thu Jul 13, 2017 at 01:26:59 AM EST
    flashed back to that awful Anthony Hopkins/Brad Pitt movie. Legends of the Fall.

    BORing (5.00 / 1) (#93)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jul 13, 2017 at 11:15:18 AM EST
    Talk about your overblown horse operas! (none / 0) (#108)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Thu Jul 13, 2017 at 07:17:17 PM EST
    That was a wasted two-plus hours of my life I can never get back. The film's setting and cinematography were admittedly drop-dead gorgeous, but director Edward Zwick was unable to stop Brad Pitts and Anthony Hopkins from chewing up the scenery and then spitting it back in the audience's faces. No wonder Julia Ormond shot herself at the end.

    Who should've shot themselves (5.00 / 3) (#122)
    by jondee on Fri Jul 14, 2017 at 09:24:16 AM EST
    were the people in the nineties who voted to award a slew of Oscars to Titanic and Forrest Gump.

    I don't know.. (none / 0) (#95)
    by jondee on Thu Jul 13, 2017 at 11:48:39 AM EST
    contrasted with most of the swill that comes out of Hollywood, you could almost call Legends of the Fall a flawed masterpiece. Almost.

    You can see what the director was trying to do: make a sweeping David Lean-like saga with mythic overtones of the history of one family scarred though being caught up in the historical maelstrom of the western Indian wars up through WWI..

    A for effort and degree of difficulty.

    EMMY nominations are out (none / 0) (#99)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jul 13, 2017 at 05:10:49 PM EST



    Hellofa year in TV

    major snub of LEFTOVERS (none / 0) (#100)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jul 13, 2017 at 05:12:39 PM EST
    at least Carrie Coon is nominated for FARGO

    some one finally figured out (none / 0) (#101)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jul 13, 2017 at 05:21:01 PM EST
    AMERICANS is awsum.  tons of nominations

    "Saturday Night Live" and ... (none / 0) (#104)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Thu Jul 13, 2017 at 06:52:33 PM EST
    ... "Westworld" lead the pack with 22 nominations each. While Trump & Co. has been an American political nightmare, it's been comedy gold for SNL. Alex Baldwin, Kate McKinnon and Melissa McCarthy each picked up well-deserved supporting performer nominations. Other performers on SNL who garnered Emmy nods were Vanessa Bayer, Leslie Jones, Kristen Wiig, Dave Chappelle, Lin Manuel-Miranda and Tom Hanks.  

    One Emmy oversight I was sorry to see was Tracey Ullman, who's been knocking it out of the park with "Tracey Ullman's Shows." I've been watching her online, and her hilarious impressions of Dame Judi Dench and Maggie Smith, German Chancellor Angela Merkel ("Oh, it's so good to feel ze vint in my hairspray!"), British Prime Minister Theresa May and Mrs. Rupert Murdoch (aka Mick Jagger's ex, Jerry Hall) are absolutely uncanny.



    I have been a Tracey groupie forever (none / 0) (#107)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jul 13, 2017 at 07:11:11 PM EST
    Ever since her first show gave birth to THE SIMPSONS.  

    WESTWORLD definitely deserves the love IMO.  


    Tracey Ullman was in Aspen (none / 0) (#118)
    by fishcamp on Fri Jul 14, 2017 at 06:34:09 AM EST
    years ago for the Aspen Comedy Fest.  I was on the film crew.  Tracey is funny all the time.  She just grabs your arm, starts walking with you, and tells very funny stories about whatever just happened during the shoot.

    I just adore Tracey Ullman. (none / 0) (#120)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Fri Jul 14, 2017 at 08:03:03 AM EST
    I've never understood why she never really caught on here in the States. Her comedic talent and timing are simply impeccable. I just watched an episode tonight, where she played Scottish First Minister Nicola Sturgeon as a hypernationalist mob boss who had kidnapped tennis star Andy Murray and had him tied to a chair, where he was subjected to a nonstop soundtrack of the Bay City Rollers while she berated him for being insufficiently Scottish, all because he had named his newborn baby daughter "Sophia Olivia" rather than "Moira."

    One category (none / 0) (#115)
    by CaptHowdy on Thu Jul 13, 2017 at 08:09:44 PM EST
    That's a toss up for me is for title sequence.  WESTWORLD and AMERICAN GODS are both nominated.  One will almost certainly win.  Both are amazing.  

    I think if I had to decide it would be AMERICAN GODS.  But either deserve the award.

    U decide



    Garden! (none / 0) (#102)
    by Zorba on Thu Jul 13, 2017 at 05:44:30 PM EST
    It's going strong.  Got a bunch of broccoli this morning, made cream of broccoli with cheese soup for dinner.
    Serve with a salad and crusty bread, and open a bottle of Cakebread Sauvignon Blanc (chilling in the fridge) as soon as Mr. Zorba gets home.

    ... for some fresh broccoli but alas, we'd likely run afoul of USDA interstate shipping regulations governing the shipment of tropical fruits. Our large mango tree in the back yard delivered a bumper crop this season. And it's hard to give them away, because it seems like every third house here has a mango tree. So, we're drying mangoes, pickling and canning mangoes, and making mango jam and chutney.

    I just got some wonderful mangoes (5.00 / 1) (#113)
    by ruffian on Thu Jul 13, 2017 at 07:50:02 PM EST
    today from a friend with a tree. So good! Daiquiris tomorrow!

    Mangoes galore down here too. (none / 0) (#119)
    by fishcamp on Fri Jul 14, 2017 at 06:42:52 AM EST
    We also have fresh broccoli from Homestead about 70 miles away.  Remember when President Bush announced he hated broccoli, and pi$$ed of the broccoli growers?  He said he knew it was on the airplane and that was ok as long as he didn't smell it cooking.

    Mangoes (none / 0) (#110)
    by Chuck0 on Thu Jul 13, 2017 at 07:31:23 PM EST
    Are a good addition to salsa.

    LOL! (none / 0) (#111)
    by Zorba on Thu Jul 13, 2017 at 07:35:58 PM EST
    I would ship you some broccoli for some mangoes, but, as you said, it would not pass regulations.
    Besides, by the time our broccoli got there, it wouldn't be all that fresh.