Republicans and Their Nightmare Health Care Bill

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Posted on Thu May 04, 2017 at 08:07:00 AM EST
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Republicans say they have enough votes to pass their nightmare health care bill. No one seems to think the Senate will pass it -- without modifications.

Whatever you do, if you have health care now, don't let it lapse. Millions of people, including children, will be disadvantaged by this bill.

Jimmy Kimmel explains in this powerful and emotional segment describing his new born son's heart surgery last week. [More...]

We were brought up to believe that we live in the greatest country in the world, but until a few years ago, millions and millions of us had no access to health insurance at all. Before 2014, if you were born with congenital heart disease like my son was, there was a good chance you’d never be able to get health insurance because you had a pre-existing condition. You were born with a pre-existing condition. And if your parents didn’t have medical insurance, you might not live long enough to even get denied because of a pre-existing condition.

If your baby is going to die, and it doesn’t have to, it shouldn’t matter how much money you make. I think that’s something that, whether you’re a Republican or a Democrat or something else, we all agree on that, right?”

“This isn’t football,” Mr. Kimmel added. “There are no teams. We are the team, it’s the United States. Don’t let their partisan squabbles divide us on something every decent person wants.”

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Oh, that (5.00 / 2) (#1)
by Ga6thDem on Thu May 04, 2017 at 05:19:54 AM EST

bill is simply horrible. Women who have been sexually assaulted or in a domestic abuse situation are now mandated to be in an preexisting condition pool which means no insurance for them. It also includes an age tax for people over 50.

Also, the great training robbery: (5.00 / 1) (#22)
by KeysDan on Thu May 04, 2017 at 09:40:26 PM EST

The Republican House bill cuts Medicaid funds for Special Education. It does continue to permit adult children to remain on their parent's health insurance policy until age 26. That is, of course, if their parents (a) are able to access and afford a policy, and (b) the stinky insurance they might be able to get covers such things as sickness.


Uh, no (none / 0) (#25)
by jimakaPPJ on Fri May 05, 2017 at 08:53:11 AM EST

I don't like the bill anymore than I liked Obamacare but that's not true.

Q: Does the bill treat domestic violence, sexual assault, Caesarean section and postpartum depression as preexisting conditions?
The bill does not spell out either what sort of preexisting conditions insurers may take into account if states seek a waiver from the existing federal law. But in the past, some insurers had identified domestic violence, sexual assault, Caesarean section and postpartum depression as grounds for either denying coverage or charging higher premiums.

WA Post

Making will statements that are inaccurate doesn't help.


Then you should stop doing it (5.00 / 2) (#26)
by Yman on Fri May 05, 2017 at 09:37:42 AM EST

Making will statements that are inaccurate doesn't help.

Before Obamacare, "some" (as if that makes a difference) insurers treated sexual assault/rape as a pre-existing condition and could charge higher premiums or deny coverage. Obamacare prohibited them from doing that. The Republican plan will allow them to do it again.


No,the Repub plan will let (none / 0) (#31)
by jimakaPPJ on Fri May 05, 2017 at 03:43:25 PM EST

some.

Inaccurate statements only help your opponents.

Of course if Obama had championed a single payer system instead of a plan that provided welfare for some while others paid then we wouldn't be having this discussion.

It's a unfortunate fact of nature that when some people see other people getting something free then they become jealous.

And that's one of the reasons the Repub plan will fail and the main reasons a single payer plan without everyone paying has never been introduced.


: Good thing Ga6th .. (none / 0) (#32)
by Yman on Fri May 05, 2017 at 04:11:40 PM EST

Women who have been sexually assaulted or in a domestic abuse situation are now mandated to be in an preexisting condition pool which means no insurance for them.
... never said all women who have been sexually assaulted would be forced into these pools.
Almost as ridiculous as people who claim to support single payer insurance while voting for Repubs who have consistently opposed them, then trying to blame Democrats.

: Ah yes.. (none / 0) (#33)
by jondee on Fri May 05, 2017 at 04:24:10 PM EST

listen to those stigma-loaded dog whistles and savor the subtle bouquet of burning crosses wafting through the air: Obama = black people = "welfare"
I bet Trump pushes for single payer in his second term. Yessir, don't think he won't.
Lead, follow, or get out of the way.

Heh (none / 0) (#27)
by Yman on Fri May 05, 2017 at 09:51:48 AM EST

Are you really trying to hang your hat on the the use of the word "mandated", or suggesting Ga6th's statement applies to all victims of sexual assault in order to claim it's false?

God luck with that.


: Oh well (5.00 / 1) (#30)
by jondee on Fri May 05, 2017 at 12:49:08 PM EST

just look at as the first step toward the single payer system the Right's been pushing for for years.
And pay no attention to that Republican loyalty oath Trump took.
Lead, follow, or get out of the way.

My daughter gave birth by caesarian section. (5.00 / 1) (#2)
by Donald from Hawaii on Thu May 04, 2017 at 06:05:07 AM EST

Per former insurance company guidelines, that was considered a pre-existing condition and grounds to deny her coverage were she to change plans or carriers. Are we really going back there again?

Economically disadvantaged but nominally reliable GOP voters who now receive affordable health care coverage through Obamacare tend to not know who was responsible for making that happen, because thanks to their party's affinity for the politics of demonization, they generally don't conflate the term "Obamacare" with the Affordable Care Act itself.

I'll tell you what, though. They'll likely figure out pretty quickly who's responsible for taking that coverage away from them, if Republicans are so brazen and stupid enough to actually do so.

Aloha.

I think it's a willful ignorance (none / 0) (#6)
by Militarytracy on Thu May 04, 2017 at 10:48:39 AM EST

Those reliable GOP voters are bathing in.


My daughter, too -- to save the life (none / 0) (#8)
by Towanda on Thu May 04, 2017 at 01:54:07 PM EST

of my grandson, seven months old now.

But the alleged "pro-life" Republicans will punish my daughter for her c-section.

And that will have to factor into the discussion, already underway by my daughter and son-in-law, as to whether to give me another grandchild.

I am beyond angry about this bill, all perpetrated by Priebus just to give the thug in the White House a "win."


With Republicans, just being a woman ... (5.00 / 1) (#23)
by Donald from Hawaii on Thu May 04, 2017 at 10:58:12 PM EST

... appears to be a pre-existing condition.


David Yankovich (none / 0) (#12)
by Ga6thDem on Thu May 04, 2017 at 02:52:09 PM EST

is apparently seriously mulling a run against Paul Ryan. Maybe he can take him out.


Good, but (5.00 / 1) (#18)
by Towanda on Thu May 04, 2017 at 05:50:36 PM EST

he is not my Representative. (Mine is a Democrat.)

Ryan is too close for comfort, though -- to us all.


they are pretty much (none / 0) (#28)
by CaptHowdy on Fri May 05, 2017 at 10:17:47 AM EST

playing on a loop Ryans righteous indignation from 2009 having vapors that anyone would consider passing a bill without reading it.


: this one (none / 0) (#29)
by CaptHowdy on Fri May 05, 2017 at 10:22:18 AM EST

War! (none / 0) (#24)
by Militarytracy on Thu May 04, 2017 at 11:22:54 PM EST